Vintage FAIL…

24 Aug

These boots were on the front page. They are “Vintage 80s Etienne AIGNER SIGNATURE ” boots.
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=20184185 in GoodEye.

How can these be vintage when Etienne Aigner only made umbrella’s, perfume and other small accessories until 2000 and didn’t start making leather goods until 2001?

And these, from <a href="in GoodEye“>GoodEye, http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?ref=vl_other_1&listing_id=25667327 can’t be vintage because Adrienne Vittadini didn’t get into the glasses biz until 1996.
This shop has a few other things that are made by brands not even in existence 20 years ago.

And these DKNY boots in nstylevintage are probably not vintage since DKNY wasn’t formed until 1989 and the shoes and boots weren’t introduced until a couple years later. The lace up boots weren’t popular until the late 1990s so I doubt these meet the 20 year test.
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=28921972

bsochic‘s description says “These sunglasses are from the early 80’s”, yet, DKNY wasn’t founded until 1989. Say what??
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=24278080 (Make sure to check out her feedback for a negative about misrepresentation.)

AntiNu doesn’t even know Etsy’s TOS and writes in the description that the shoes are “about 16 years old.”
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=29446569

It’s fun to search for stuff made by designer’s that haven’t been around for 10 years, let alone 20, to see what you come up with. You’d be surprised!

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36 Responses to “Vintage FAIL…”

  1. Life During Wartime August 24, 2009 at 11:14 am #

    I think you’re wrong about the dates for Aigner. I bought my first Aigner leather purse in the late 70s. Had Aigner loafers (I think they were?) in the 80s. Not sure if these boots are that old. The heels look a bit more contemporary to me, but I boots are not something I know much about — never wear them.

  2. hmmmm August 24, 2009 at 11:30 am #

    They made purses and travel bags in the 70s and 80s but didn’t start the boots until more recent years. I remember reading about the boot line practically bankrupting them.

    I agree that the heels look too contemporary to be 80s.

    Argh to the shop owner who admits she’s selling non vintage.

  3. Watcher August 24, 2009 at 12:39 pm #

    Don’t recognize the ones posted, but EA produced boots by the late 80s. I owned a pair.

  4. laura August 24, 2009 at 1:21 pm #

    ea did produce shoes in the 70s and 80s. no doubt. the boots heels look 80s to me, but not sure. i own a pair of ea boots and i could have sworn i bought them in the late 80s.

  5. Gern Blanston August 24, 2009 at 1:28 pm #

    Miu Miu (Prada) is also a late comer to shoes. Steve Madden is another. I think that was discussed previously.

  6. Jenn August 24, 2009 at 4:23 pm #

    I just spent 10 minutes flagging everything from 1993 – 1999 in the Vintage category. (will be getting to 1990-1992 later).
    Some I remembered flagging before and they’re still there.

    Why does etsy bother to have a TOU if they’re not going to do anything about it???

    I’m not even a vintage seller and this stuff pisses me off.

  7. Dated August 24, 2009 at 4:35 pm #

    Aigner definitely made boots in the seventies. I had a pair in the same colour but with much lower heels. This was the late seventies.

  8. Vintage Mama August 24, 2009 at 5:45 pm #

    EA made boots in the 70’s and 80’s but the EA “Signature” boots are definitely post 1995.

    Antinu should have those shoes removed but they probably won’t be. That’s why Etsy has become the world’s largest garage sale. They let all this vintage-not crap stay even tho the stuff gets flagged over and over.

    It’s an insult to those selling genuine vintage.

  9. Laura August 25, 2009 at 2:11 am #

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=28830557
    What gives? Mark it supplies and it’s okay?

  10. Laura August 25, 2009 at 2:19 am #

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=29446332

    OMG, Hot Kiss shoes as vintage? COME ON! And she has sold a ton in just a fw months?

  11. Laura August 25, 2009 at 2:22 am #

    Anti Nu is also that spoon chick that was as a featured seller. She knows the TOU. Doesn’t care.

  12. Denise August 25, 2009 at 4:29 am #

    Vintage seller admits shoes aren’t vintage- Etsy hasn’t removed so it must be OK. Hot Kiss shoes as vintage- what a joke.
    DKNY as vintage- another joke. Donna Karan founded DKNY in 88-89 and started with ladies jeans. Shoes and boots didn’t come out until 1995 and sunglasses came out in 1998. That is according to my textbooks. I majored in fashion design.
    Anti Nu should know better than to list something only 16 years old.
    Etsy is saturated with stuff sold as vintage that’s less than 20 years old. That’s why it looks like a yard sale. Administration must not care too much about the integrity of the site since they allow it, promote it and never remove it.

  13. BitchenStitchen2 August 25, 2009 at 6:23 am #

    Puh-leeze. Do you know how many items I’ve flagged that blatantly have 199X in the title? Items where the seller even says “not vintage”, “almost vintage”, or something similar.

    C’mon, it’s a no brainer!!!!

  14. uh huh August 25, 2009 at 7:53 am #

    It’s disgusting that they let this go on and on without a care.

    DKNY is NOT vintage. Either is Steve Madden. But you can find them both for sale on Etsy!!!!!!!!!

    The first shop has a shirt for sale that’s only two or three years old and was sold through Speigel catalog.

    I guess as long as it’s ripped, missing a button or has a stain or two, it’s vintage per Etsy.

  15. Ambergris August 25, 2009 at 12:14 pm #

    I just looked through a search of PIF. I thought the unwritten rule was it is to be listed for .20 + shipping? Not one on the most recent listings is listed at $ .20

    Maybe I misunderstood the use of the tag and what it all entails?

  16. Ambergris August 25, 2009 at 12:15 pm #

    ok well there is one now.. but at the time I posted the above message – there were none at .20

    ^.^

  17. Gern Blanston August 25, 2009 at 4:06 pm #

    Sort the PIFs from highest to lowest. That’s always fun.

  18. Sarah August 25, 2009 at 4:24 pm #

    Not sure where to send these things to, but here’s a seller that’s been driving me crazy:

    BethBoudin.etsy.com
    http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=6639345

    For a while, she kept putting up alchemy requests for donations, usually refillable ink cartridges. Now she mistags PIFs. (Thanks for the note about searching PIF, btw. Very interesting findings…). All-around annoying and reappears at the weirdest times. Check out her profile… “Watch out Martha Stewart!”

  19. meh August 25, 2009 at 10:33 pm #

    wow i didn’t know about the sort by price method. searching pifs from highest to lowest is hilarious.

    has anyone seen the $85.00 pif? 100% of it is being donated to charity. does that make it a pif? i’m not sure i understand. is it mistagging, or is it etsy legal?

  20. Kirsi August 26, 2009 at 12:28 am #

    Here are my favorite “PIFs”
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=22228730 (39 0f 74 items are PIFs)

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=26912446

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=28781856 (18 out of 43 items are PIFs, 14 of the 18 are also tagged ‘sale’)

    “Please do not purchase this without another $10 item from my store — it will be cancelled” http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=27896079

  21. why oh why August 26, 2009 at 8:18 am #

    If Anti Nu states in her item description that the shoes are 16 years old, why are they still allowed to be listed???
    Special privileges for featured sellers???

  22. Laura August 26, 2009 at 9:02 am #

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=29446990&report=report&show_panel=true#report

    I looked at these at Kohl’s this summer! She even states Vintage Looking! Unionbay? Anti Nu SUCKS!

  23. Laura August 26, 2009 at 9:05 am #

    Look at all of these shoes:

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=29446990&report=report&show_panel=true#report Unionbay. I SAW them in Kohl’s last week! She even states “vintage looking.”

    Here she states that they are 16 years old: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=29446569

    Hot Kiss is not vintage: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?ref=vl_other_2&listing_id=29446332

    Not vintage: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=29446804

  24. Laura August 26, 2009 at 9:16 am #

    I convoed Anti Nu about her items, and just said how disappointed I was to see a sucessful seller not maintaining the dignity of Etsy Vintage. Made me feel better.

  25. Laura August 26, 2009 at 10:25 am #

    She took the shoes down, and said my approach could use some work. Like, wow my feelings are so hurt.

  26. Bedazzled Condom August 26, 2009 at 12:25 pm #

    The shoes are gone, thus, the approach worked, thus, it doesn’t need any work.

    I have an idea, Anti Nu, why not just follow the rules from the beginning and then you won’t have to spend one minute worrying about how anyone approaches you to remind you that you volunteered freely to follow the rules?

  27. Goodday2U September 6, 2009 at 8:18 am #

    The rules are there for everyone to follow, not just the select few. Hmmm, like some here?

  28. Yvette September 7, 2009 at 1:40 am #

    I am just now coming across this comment regarding Good Eye and EA. She’s one of my fav with vintage. Excellent customer service and fast shipping too. Quality products! I personally have worn EA leather products in the 80’s and 90’s, and recall buying EA leather boots for a Christmas gift in the 80’s………. The signature collection has been around for quite some time. (The use of the “A” instead of the full name). I believe her shop is legit as my money has been spent here. Perhaps more product research should be done before slamming her. I usually agree and shake my head with these bogus shop finds, however this post disappoints me.

  29. Bedazzled Condom September 7, 2009 at 1:20 pm #

    I like all vintage.

  30. Bedazzled Condom September 8, 2009 at 8:16 am #

    I have a large collection of vintage items. Clothing, handbags , art work and even a small collection on vintage porn. But that’s another story.

  31. Sue September 9, 2009 at 6:44 pm #

    I want to know what the difference is between vintage and non-vintage porn

  32. tweeter September 9, 2009 at 7:11 pm #

    What’s the diff?

  33. UGR September 16, 2009 at 9:32 pm #

    Etienne Aigner made shoes in the 70’s my mother had a pair of wine colored chunky heels with a gold rim around the back of the heel that she paid a butt load of money for

  34. kh October 9, 2009 at 11:08 am #

    yes, EA definitely made shoes as well as other items such as jackets and clothing in the 1970s and 80s. my mother had several items as well.

  35. Shazaam March 16, 2010 at 4:37 pm #

    Have to agree with Yvette. I have vintage EA leather goods from the late ’70s and early ’80s and they are very much the same style. Misrepresentation is one thing. Not knowing exact dates of origin is another, and those boots scream ’80s (yes, there have been replicas in the past two years, but they tend to be slightly updated – and unworn). I don’t expect every Etsy vendor to be an expert, and this seems genuine.

  36. Shazaam March 17, 2010 at 3:23 pm #

    Ooh I love these commenter design patches!

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