AutumnandEve

25 Sep

Two different readers commented on AutumnandEve…

Major copyright violation “illustrator” on the FP right now. I guess illustrator now means “I know how to use filters on photshop.”

http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5838980

http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=28440024 -LOVE that they have the image listed under their copyright. Funny, I believe the photo of Mr. Dylan that you stole had it’s own copyright. I can’t stand these sellers!

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A very amusing email I received from the crazy funkyshique bunch…

I just finished reading your blog entry on Funkyshique. It was incredibly shocking to me as an Etsy seller myself to see how other sellers would treat Funkyshique. Etsy is a plethora of mixed items, including items to be altered, things that appeal to the artistic mind. You would have to report over half of Etsy and could spend 24 hours a day pointing out non-vintage and non-handmade items.

Funkyshique has a nice subtle style and doesn’t exploit any type of manufactured item, unlike many of the made in China supplies found on Etsy. She is a hard working Mother, American Citizen and Hobbyist with her own unique style and has respect enough for our planet to recycle.

Does every knitter weave their own yarn or every artist mesh there own canvas fibers? I hope she paints the figurine purple and sprinkles it with glitter and calls it Altered Art.

What a shame that your blog exists simply to insult others. I see nothing but jealousy and envy and negativity.

Fadedpinkrose
Traci
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Yep, the new Etsy rules say it must be handmade by YOU or 20 years old UNLESS you are a mother, a US citizen, a hobbyist with style and hell, even recycle. Nice to know. Mothers, hobbyists and earth lovers from other countries be damned!

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27 Responses to “AutumnandEve”

  1. groove is in da heart September 25, 2009 at 9:20 am #

    This is on the fp right this second too – she says she bought it back from Thailand.

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=31488225&ref=fp_feat_11

  2. Sarah September 25, 2009 at 9:36 am #

    What a shame.

    I have yet to see a seller assembled FP make the blatant mistakes made by admin.

  3. BlahBlah September 25, 2009 at 5:33 pm #

    I just have to say that I think it is terribly unprofessional that you are wasting so much time calling out these people. Yes they are violating Etsy’s rules, but why are you making it your business? Are you a seller and it’s hurting you? The only reason I even come here is because I saw it on my GA and wanted to see if you were calling my shop out! Quit humiliating people and let Etsy deal with it!

  4. morgansilk September 25, 2009 at 6:09 pm #

    Blah, the unprofessionals are the ones violating Etsy’s rules. It’s our business because we are AFFILIATED with what should be a safe place to buy quality, honest goods. It hurts the reputation of every one who sells on Etsy. Why can’t you see that?

    A person who intentionally misleads customers about their goods is committing petty fraud, but fraud nonetheless. I for one don’t like having to share space with people who sell fraudulent goods. Duh.

  5. Sarah September 25, 2009 at 7:34 pm #

    Sorry BlahBlah but I used to be excited for Etsy a long… long time ago. I can still find the quality handmade goods I’m looking for. But Etsy has a ridiculous issue with copyright violators, undersellers, resellers, and the likes. I’m taking my money elsewhere, because goodness knows it’s not the only place to find “handmade” or “vintage”.

    Etsy has the flag option. I can’t speculate whether admin does their own investigating. But many MANY people have expressed frustration when obvious violations aren’t removed. (Frankly I’m disgusted at the violations Etsy’s own admin have made of their TOUs on the FP.) Sometimes, a contributor has a bad gut feeling but no evidence. It takes someone else who holds the nails to the coffin (so to speak).

    I wish this blog didn’t have a leg on. That sounds weird, but I wish Etsy was better regulated so I could have confidence when I’m looking for local, handmade quality products.

    Until then… It serves to inform and, well, entertain. 😛

  6. BlahBlah September 25, 2009 at 8:46 pm #

    I agree that the rule-breakers are ridiculous and yes, I have issues with the FP thing too. I rarely, if ever even look at the front page. I just go to my shop,browse,or go on the forums. I just think you are stooping to their level by calling them out like this. I’ve clicked on the links to see if there is any basis to the accusations, and there is. I just think it’s unfair to air people’s transgressions on something like this.

    Sure it hurts all of us sellers in the long run, but I just don’t see how it’s doing any good.

  7. YadaYada September 26, 2009 at 5:27 am #

    BlahBlah-

    If I am reading your post above correctly, what you are objecting to is the fact that the people who break the rules (and you admit that they are, and that it bothers you when they are on FP) are exposed on this blog.

    Historically, it is the act of shining light on something-of bringing something out into the open–that has helped to right injustice and combat dishonesty. I am grateful to the whistleblowers and the watchdogs who are working to try to prevent Etsy from becoming Ebay.

    I guess I don’t need to point out that if you object to this blog you don’t need to read or post on it–you can go back and put your head in the sand and refuse to see any type of bigger picture.

    There is ALWAYS good in truth.

  8. Monkeyshit September 26, 2009 at 12:46 pm #

    You are a bunch of hypocrites with nothing else to do.

    I wonder how many people here have Etsy shops? Maybe a few but the rest of you are here with nothing to do and feel the need to fill your days.

    Tell you what…make this blog private and you all can laugh and point fingers at shop owners untill the fat lady sings. Even on the storque there is an article that proves what you are doing is wrong. OBEY THE RULES AND DO NOT CALL OUT!

    Talking about doing the right thing…look in the mirror.

  9. BlahBlah September 26, 2009 at 1:19 pm #

    I actually wonder if any of the accused even know about this blog.
    Yes, of course I object that the Front Page has items that aren’t following the rules, and I highly object to the mistagging and reselling, but I object even more to the fact that they are being called out, more than likely behind their back and that’s just wrong.
    Their reasons for not following the rules are varied, but I can almost BET that they would NOT appreciate being called out like this. This ridiculous blog doesn’t even work anyway, as the people who have been called out, are still there, at least many of them!

  10. RuSerious September 26, 2009 at 7:15 pm #

    Calling out isnt allowed on Etsy. Do they own everything? No. So chill. So instead of breaking Etsy policy, they started a blog.

    The items being posted on this blog are from people who are trying to be deceitful.

    Why do you really think when someone sits down and purchases things from ebay to sell as handmade that “they have reasons” of course they do.. to make money.

    I am tired of wondering if the pretty pictured item is handmade or not. I don’t care what country it comes from, if its not handmade and being listed as handmade its wrong and agaisnt policy.

    The reason for this blog is to make us aware. If you have such a huge problem, then apparently you don’t hold Etsy in such a high standard.

    I don’t care if I sell 1 item or 200. I care about what I buy. I care that it is what it says it yes. I don’t like to be lied to.

    Ignoring wrong deeds doesn’t make them go away. If everyone took that cue, we wouldn’t have a police department, firemen, judical system, or any form of authority.

  11. Seriously? September 26, 2009 at 9:34 pm #

    The rules that apply on Etsy do not apply here. This blog was created to avoid these discussions on the forums, which, is following Etsy’s rules on their server space.

    I don’t feel sorry for resellers. I don’t feel sorry for sellers who knowingly list items as vintage or handmade when they are not. It degrades the standards by which many sellers are buyers alike are drawn to. They aren’t just screwing me, you, and Etsy. They are screwing our customers and that is far more unacceptable than any random banter posted here.

  12. Lindsey September 27, 2009 at 11:33 am #

    I have an Etsy shop and I get discouraged when I see Etsy filled up with things that are not handmade and not vintage and therefore pervert the integrity of the site. A site on which I am trying to sell my legitimately handmade items.

    Therefore, I like this blog because it points out the resellers and non-vintage items listed as vintage so that we can flag them. With enough publicity about it, Etsy will hopefully fix it and try to regain its integrity.

    What I don’t like about this blog is negativity and immaturity with name-calling, etc. But this is not done by the blog, but by the comments. And sadly, most of the name-calling and immaturity comes from the nay-sayers of the blog, not the real readers.

  13. forum rubbernecker September 27, 2009 at 12:28 pm #

    You are a bunch of hypocrites with nothing else to do.

    I wonder how many people here have Etsy shops? Maybe a few but the rest of you are here with nothing to do and feel the need to fill your days.
    ______

    No offense, but you’re an idiot.

  14. Life During Wartime September 27, 2009 at 2:40 pm #

    How about this?

    http://www.etsy.com/view_transaction.php?transaction_id=19851890

    Was on the (Etsy admin selected) front page, but sold while I was looking up bodhi leaf rose lights on Google. Reseller/importer? I doubt they make themselves by hand what you can buy at so many sites.

  15. Dagnabbit September 27, 2009 at 2:53 pm #

    fire hazard would be my first concern on those lights. Nothing in the description that would make me feel safe….

  16. Life During Wartime September 27, 2009 at 3:02 pm #

    Here’s a site that has lots of bodhi leaf flower lights

    http://www.save-on-crafts.com/whiteroses1.html

    Some of the photos are very similar, although not exactly the ones on Etsy.

    But an admin picked this for the FP, so it must be legit…

  17. susan September 27, 2009 at 5:06 pm #

    I can’t stand those stolen photoshopped photos. Give me a break. Do something original.

    but if “admin picjed it, it must be legit” LOLOLOLOL

  18. Nobody Understands My Pain Either September 27, 2009 at 9:11 pm #

    Hypothetical situation:

    Girl One: Oh my gosh, we’re wearing the same dress!
    Girl Two: How embarassing! But at least we both look cute, right?
    Girl One: True. I didn’t know that you knew about Etsy!
    Girl Two: What’s Etsy?
    Girl One: Um – where you bought your dress?
    Girl Two: Oh, no, I bought this at TJ Maxx.
    Girl One: Really? Wow.
    Girl Two: What’s Etsy?
    Girl One: Nevermind.

    Which is why I pay attention to and comment on this blog. I do have a shop on Etsy and I think I do pretty well. However, I’m also in the process of building my artfire and 1000 Markets site. I no longer tell people to come to Etsy because everything is vintage and handmade – because it’s not. I have a domain name that doesn’t have Etsy in the title that is forwarded to my shop. If I ever leave Etsy, most of my customers will barely notice because my domain name won’t change. When people ask about Etsy, I tell them it’s a really easy way to sell my things online – because honestly, other than the reseller/garage sale issue, I don’t have any problems with Etsy at all. It’s a great way for me to sell. However, when Etsy comes up in conversation, I always tell people to be very careful about what they buy there, especially if handmade and vintage is absolutely what they’re looking for.

    I WISH that Etsy would stay true to the handmade/vintage promise that is so central to their marketing campaign. I think that many of us came to Etsy to shop and sell in good faith and now we’re feeling a little duped. I think that many of us are so passionate about this issue because if one of our customers happens to be the girl who bought that “handmade” TJ Maxx dress, then she got duped as well. As an Etsy seller, I feel partially responsible for that. I feel HORRIBLE about that.

    Let me also take this opportunity to say that I feel really horrible about the way that these comment threads devolved into nastiness the way that they did. I don’t think that that’s what this blog should be about at all. I’ve actually been a little bit less than pleasant in some other comment threads on here and truthfully, I should have known better. This blog serves a very real and (I think) necessary purpose. A shopkeeper who is called out is obviously going to be upset about being featured here. Maybe even a little irrational. We don’t need to feed that or egg it on. Especially when the person really does have an otherwise cute and handmade product – when the person obviously does make things herself. Not only was damage potentially done to that shop’s reputation, but damage was also done to this blog’s reputation.

    I watch the Real Housewives on Bravo. I love a good meltdown. I got completely sucked into this and watched it like it was the season finale of my favorite tv show. But it’s not a tv show. I want to be a part of something that tries to make a big company like Etsy be the site that it promised us that it was. 100%. But I don’t want to be a part of something that tries to tear a very real person down (who didn’t sign up to be on tv) and feeds off of someone who may have very well been just reacting in the heat of the moment. I think that most of us are better than that, and if we’re not, we should strive to be.

    Funkyshique, your reaction was what it was. I’ll say again that I think you have some really lovely items in your shop. I really hope you continue your focus on those items that you made. I hope that if you come across something that makes you smile but you’re not quite sure if it’s vintage, that you’ll maybe ask one of the Etsy sellers who specialize in that sort of thing. I know many of them would love to help you. I apologize for some of the things that were said to you by others. I apologize for anything that was said by ME that may have offended you. I’m sorry that things about your personal life were brought out into the open – that shouldn’t have happened. Of course you felt ganged up on, nearly everyone on this site chooses to be anonymous and although retaliation is probably a horrible choice, you weren’t even left with that option. I’m sorry, I’m sure that felt horrible.

    I am still going to participate in the mission of this site because I think that it’s important. However, I will choose my words more carefully in the future and try to remember that sometimes people just make mistakes. Etsy doesn’t do the best job of explaining its “rules” and it does an absolutely horrible job at enforcing them. I’ll try to make sure that I don’t take that out on sellers who I honestly believe just didn’t understand.

  19. Marky Green September 28, 2009 at 1:18 am #

    Re: The dress “brought back from thailand” reported by “groove is in da heart” in the first response (http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=31488225&ref=fp_feat_11)

    I reported this item to etsy… Since then, she’s changed the listing to remove the bit about bringing the dress back from Thailand, so that’s alright then… But whoops, she’s left “thailand” in the tags.

    (Be quick… I bet she’s following this blog… that tag might also be removed by the time you get there…)

  20. MadeByM**** September 28, 2009 at 6:00 am #

    It is amazing what this turned into on the other blog site. When people are put on the spot like that and they know they were in the wrong or being deceitful, that’s how most people act! I see that all the time here at my work….when people get caught at trying to fraud the government, they act the same exact way!

    As I said in the other blog, follow the “rules” and you won’t get called out. That applies to life in general, too, not just on Etsy. It is hard to sit and watch people get away with breaking the rules, but as another person commented, what goes around comes around. If you break the rules on purpose and be deceitful, you will eventually get caught. If you get called out, then admit you’re in the wrong and fix it. If you throw a fit and give a bunch of reasons why you did it and don’t change, well, you’ll never be trusted again.

  21. Anne September 28, 2009 at 10:02 am #

    I’m glad attention is being brought to these people because rights managed photography serves a purpose – the individual or the individual’s estate has a right to control how the person is represented. There are licencing companies out there that make sure this is done legitimately. And yes of course, the original photographer has rights too! All I can say is that people who apply a filter to images they swiped are super lame and the people that support them are even lamer.

  22. PussDaddy September 28, 2009 at 11:43 am #

    Way to go using my quote over on the other blog about this, the quote when I was referencing an old post about The Black Apple . Of course my quote made fricking sense on the Black Apple blog post because the Black Apple hadn’t done much of anything to anyone, , and on the other hand this blog post about Autumn and Eve seems to be pretty much right on, so my blog post doesn’t even pertain to this discusssion. If you are going to use my quotes then stick them where they make sense , don’t use them to make it seem as though I agree with your cause. Because the bottom line is I didn’t agree with what people were saying about the Black Apple, but I pretty much agree with what is being said here about Autumn & Eve, so leave my fucking words alone right where the heck they are at as they are doing fine there. Thanks.

    I already said that when this blog first started I thought it was going to be another she sell’s more than I do, been on the front page more times, admin looked at her twice and ignored me, and blah blah blah, but this blog actually does make some good points and does a good job a lot of the time, and I have communicated that to whoever makes this blog. So don’t try to make it out like I am supporting whatever you are doing by copying and pasting what I said on another issue here on yours, cause it ain’t like that.
    PussDaddy

  23. Steamedpunk September 28, 2009 at 1:36 pm #

    “…mesh there own canvas fibers?”
    Do you mean does every artist WEAVE THEIR own canvas fibers, dumbass?
    Etsy callout is great, and Monkeyshit can suck me.
    Who cares?

  24. crazy cat lady September 29, 2009 at 7:10 pm #

    Life During Wartime Says:
    September 27, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    How about this?

    http://www.etsy.com/view_transaction.php?transaction_id=19851890

    Was on the (Etsy admin selected) front page, but sold while I was looking up bodhi leaf rose lights on Google. Reseller/importer? I doubt they make themselves by hand what you can buy at so many sites.
    _______________
    On the admin picked front page again.

  25. grumpy September 29, 2009 at 8:01 pm #

    crazy cat lady, definitely not made by seller:

    http://www.oogalights.com/Natural-White-Rose-Romantic-Party-String-Lights.aspx

    plus the seller is marking them up pretty nicely.

  26. PussDaddy September 30, 2009 at 12:28 pm #

    Steamedpunk Says:
    September 28, 2009 at 1:36 pm
    “…mesh there own canvas fibers?”
    Do you mean does every artist WEAVE THEIR own canvas fibers, dumbass?
    Etsy callout is great, and Monkeyshit can suck me.
    Who cares?
    ””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
    Some places have mosh pits, Etsy has mesh pits.

    PussDaddy

  27. kewl October 3, 2009 at 3:58 pm #

    Regarding the “illustrator” hmmmm nice way to make side cash ripping people’s images off and “altering” them, I hope she gets discovered by one of the people who owns those images and their hefty team of lawyers with a cease & desist pronto!
    also her a&e logo is identical to the a&e channel which I am sure if they knew about they would not be so happy either.

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