smileau

11 Jan

WTH is wrong with Etsy that they can’t even click on the listings that they put together for the front page, finds, and the storque?! Someone should be fired over this kind of stupidity!

Here’s the storque:
http://www.etsy.com/storque/spotlight/etsy-finds-core-training-6679/

featured shop:
http://www.etsy.com/shop/smileau

Shoes featured in storque, available in any size you need AND tagged as vintage and supplies:
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=38228926

More shoes (hooray for resellers, these have been sold!):
http://www.etsy.com/view_transaction.php?transaction_id=24041282

Just in case anyone else wants to open a shop filled with fake Chinese vintage sneakers, here’s a link to the Tradekey website for the exact same shoes:
http://www.tradekey.com/selloffer_view/id/2460630.htm

Way to go Etsy! REWARD the freakin’ resellers at every opportunity! It’s about time they got a shot at “quit your day job”, too!

I hope you’ll help bring this to the attention of sellers who are willing to flag and get this shop closed down.

Thanks for you help!!!
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We wanted to add that they are indeed vintage “style” but they started remaking them in 2006. Another obvious is that none of the “vintage” shoes have any marks or scuffs.

Sell Feiyue shoes – shaolin Kongfu shoes, China Original sneaker

History

Feiyue shoes was born in Shanghai in the 1920s. It has been a reference among all Chinese social categories from the countryman to the politician, from the captain of the national soccer Team to the famous Shaolin Feiyue became famous during the 30’s for its robustness, its flexibility and its comfort, essential requirements for Chinese martial arts. According to Chinese tradition, Feiyue symbolizes the dual elevation of both body and mind.

Feiyue = Flying forward
Feiyue is pronounced �« Fe�®-u�© �»

In 2005, Patrice Bastian a globe trotter living in Shanghai with an unconditional passion for sneakers, decided to team up with friend and graphic designer Charles Munka to lift up the image and looks of Feiyue. With the help of Nicolas Seguy, and Clement Fauth, an ideal Team was then built to give back to Feiyue its noble touch. After a creative transformation/modification, yet keeping Feiyue�s vintage touch, hard work on quality requirements bound to western markets has been done. Thus, in February 2006, the first real Feiyue collection was born.

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38 Responses to “smileau”

  1. JK January 11, 2010 at 11:24 am #

    Seriously, admin — just how hard is it to give things a good look before you splash it all over the damn site?

  2. MadeByM**** January 11, 2010 at 11:39 am #

    They really don’t seem to care anymore……..at least for the handmade or REAL vintage aspect of it! It’s all about what’s “in” right now…..regardless if it follows their “rules”……

  3. RocksInMySocks January 11, 2010 at 12:42 pm #

    Even a quick look would be better than none at all! I’m totally disgusted with their lack of response to the flagging. The illegal sellers on Etsy should be their top priority. It hurts every legitimate seller on the site. I’m not holding out much hope that anything is going to change. Meanwhile, I guess I’ll just continue to try and compete with all the lying, cheating resellers and try to keep from drowning in Etsy’s bullshit.

  4. Life During Wartime January 11, 2010 at 12:55 pm #

    When I looked at the Storque early this morning, the shoe photo jumped right out as a possible reseller. C;mon Etsy, it’s a catalog photo! If the staff bothered to read this seller’s profile, wouldn’t they wonder what a girl, 2 cats, and a vintage (?) sewing machine had to do with a shop full of sneakers, available in a warehouse range of sizes and tagged both vintage and supplies? Or WTF was that on her Policies page about ‘distributors welcome’?

    I think Rob needs to hold the Etsy staff accountable for featuring a Chinese corporation in the Storque. Because, according to Etsy’s TOU, what the staff should have done instead of featuring it was close it down when they found it in their search for fitness-related items.

    Shame shame shame Etsy!

  5. Crazy Cat Lady January 11, 2010 at 1:40 pm #

    What sort of “vintage shoe” is available in 12 sizes? I mean, do they even LOOK at the listings? I don’t think so. Dimwits.

  6. Amy January 11, 2010 at 2:06 pm #

    The other day one Etsy finds post had the same seller featured 3 times! A legit seller but seriously you’d have thought who ever put it together would have realised they had triplicated one of the sellers!

  7. pussdaddy January 11, 2010 at 2:17 pm #

    When I first got to Etsy things like this were not as rampant. They happened, but not at the pace that they do now. It is like they don’t even care now. It’s ridiculous.

    PussDaddy

  8. WindyR January 11, 2010 at 2:18 pm #

    So discouraging…

  9. ComradeBunny January 11, 2010 at 2:32 pm #

    And yet the admin is ready to pounce when things get a little touchy in the forums. Heck, an admin closed a thread yesterday and said we are not allowed to discuss copyrights in the forum. I think that admin’s time would have been better served closing down resellers and tracking their IP address so they can’t set up a new store.

  10. Christine January 11, 2010 at 3:43 pm #

    I’m thinking a protest of sorts. A mass calling out in the forums. Maybe having to shut down 20 or 30 threads all at once will open their eyes.

    I can dream can’t I?

    Actually I have started looking into different places to sell my wares and getting my own website. I’m tired of the resellers, Etsy’s lack of response to flagging and then adding the insult of featuring resellers on the FP, in the Storque and in Etsy finds. Rob talks a good game about making changes but it’s come too late for me.

  11. Em January 11, 2010 at 3:47 pm #

    I think it really will take a mass of people to get things to change. These few people popping up every once in a while aren’t enough to get them to pay attention. I’d be a part of any organized complaint or event if someone organized it, don’t have time to do it myself though :/

  12. KR January 11, 2010 at 4:09 pm #

    What about etsy sellers and buyers decide en masse that on a certain day, at a certain time, every single forum thread would be headed with the title “Etsy Admin! Get Rid of the Resellers” (or something similar), so that’s all they’d see on the page. With a few people constantly bumping them up for a while.

    Maybe an etsy admin email “carpet bomb” at the same time with the same title? Would etsy notice, then, that this is a problem?

    Just a thought!

  13. ComradeBunny January 11, 2010 at 4:29 pm #

    Name the date and time.

  14. RocksInMySocks January 11, 2010 at 4:36 pm #

    I would be SO into some sort of mass protest like that!

  15. JajieBo January 11, 2010 at 4:37 pm #

    ^^^ Count me in. I’d definitely be up for some thread bombing.
    It is frustrating to see admin tackle the forums with such vigor… that energy would be much better spent actually looking at the boneheadedly blatant resellers they allow to run the site.

  16. RocksInMySocks January 11, 2010 at 4:39 pm #

    Anyone seen this thread?
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6399323

    I’m wondering if the OP would be willing to share her avi. It would be awesome to see these all over the forum.

  17. JajieBo January 11, 2010 at 4:55 pm #

    She gives someone else the go-ahead to use her icon in the thread : )

    The smileau shop has some “handmade” sections that are empty, and a quick look through their sales shows that they’ve never sold anything handmade, only the shoes.
    Not surprising.

    The fact that this shop is still open is a slap in the face to every honest seller on Etsy.

  18. Crazy Cat Lady January 11, 2010 at 5:24 pm #

    This just really pissed me off, I started this thread after noticing Rob’s yammering about separating the forums but not doing anything about resellers:

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6401548

  19. Laura January 11, 2010 at 6:10 pm #

    I would protest! I’m all over it!

  20. Roberta Warshaw January 11, 2010 at 6:34 pm #

    Wow. That is all I can say.

    I also want to say that it is really good that you started this site. The whole idea of not being able to “call out” as they say is absurd. If someone is doing something wrong on etsy and it impacts the sellers as well as etsy in a negative way, then calling out should be allowed.

    It is a crazy rule and I am glad you are breaking it.

  21. so cynical. January 11, 2010 at 11:38 pm #

    So let me get this straight.. to receive a nod from etsy we need 1) a wholesale account 2) stock pictures jacked directly from the wholesaler’s website and 3) blatant mistagging.

    And to think I spend so much time researching suppliers, designing, producing, picture-taking, listing, advertising, promoting….. I could reduce those steps to simply “researching suppliers” and leave it at that.

    Hmm. Clearly I’m in the wrong business.

  22. so cynical. January 11, 2010 at 11:39 pm #

    PS: Totally on board for a mass-forum-call out.

    Because more and more it’s looking like that’s what it’s going to take.

  23. notvintage January 12, 2010 at 2:27 am #

    ANOTHER BONER from MaryMary. She needs to stay away from vintage, because she knows nothing about it. She and TeenAngster do not bother to vet anything they feature. Lazy, incompetent, defensive, ignorant, and they need to either learn how to do their homework or just find a job at McDonald’s.
    Neither have a work ethic. They probably think they do, but both of them make so many boners like this that I beg to differ.

  24. notvintage January 12, 2010 at 2:37 am #

    Gee, I’d love to be able to protest but, oops! Robwhite permanently muted me for calling out MaryMary’s last vintage article. He called me “disruptive”. I call it “the truth”.
    MaryMary ignored my precautionary email, and TeenAngster argued that “something can be vintage and handmade at the same time”.
    Stupid girls, you do not know to whom you speak.
    Don’t fix it, apologize, and try to do better. Just shut the person up with NO WARNING.

    This shit is NOT NEW. (I mean, the shit they feature as vintage is new, but the lack of vetting goes back some time!)

    I will NEVER go back to the forums regardless of what Rokali says will be a de-muting, because I do not expect him to put staff in place that know their asses from first base. I just cannot be bothered any more. This blog takes care of it for me; I don’t “go there” any more because it’s SSDD.

  25. Kirsi January 12, 2010 at 4:37 am #

    OK, now I’m picturing Artisan frantically posting to all the threads how it’s possible that the called out sellers might be supplying to the wholesale companies 😀 Or bought a huge NOS batch of Chinese sneakers…

  26. Kirsi January 12, 2010 at 4:39 am #

    Oops, I had decided not to make personal attacks on others than rule breakers… but the image was so spontaneous…

  27. KR January 12, 2010 at 5:58 am #

    “notvintage”, no kidding, I am really sorry that happened to you.

    The new forums are going to be made big, unwieldy and complicated. In doing so they are setting about to splinter things up in such a way that it will no longer feel like a community (it might be a wacked out community now, but still a community….).

    When they splinter it up and make it bigger it will be much easier for them to ignore the voices, too.

    What is ironic is that the subjects that were banned before will now be permitted! So why were they so inappropriate in the first place?

    They could easily have just set up a section for calling out or problems you wanted admin to be aware of. Now it will just be a lonely free-for-all with no one listening.

  28. notvintage January 12, 2010 at 7:17 am #

    No one has listened in the forums for a long time, they just kill threads, mute, and cover their asses.
    I don’t want to be able to use the forums; it would be hard not to comment. This way, I am not even tempted to. They can “kiss my ass, I bought a boat”…..

  29. WTFISAPDF January 12, 2010 at 9:24 am #

    If I was a reseller (which I’m not) why the hell wouldn’t I keep opening after I was closed down? It takes little effort to get noticed — a gift guide here, front page there, storque feature, maybe breakfast in bed.

    Geesh, who among you would leave the good life?

  30. Chantelle January 12, 2010 at 9:26 am #

    I’m all over a protest in the forums! Just name the date and time. I don’t have a twitter account, but I’m wondering if a simultaneous twitter protest would help?

    At this point I don’t know whether etsy admin are really that incompetent or if etsy just doesn’t care.

    Actually, I think that both are true: the etsy staff who pick items to be featured and who deal with flags really are that incompetent. And etsy really does prefer money over integrity, because integrity is hard.

    It’s not too late for etsy to change… but they have to want to do it, and I’m not convinced that they really want to.

  31. notvintage January 12, 2010 at 9:48 am #

    Wish I could take part. Twitter I can do.

  32. ohmeohmy January 12, 2010 at 11:01 am #

    I’ll take part! But only if we get a whole slew of people. We should decide a time and date.

    By the way, etsy admin does read these posts, so this massive call out will not be a surprise to them

  33. Life During Wartime January 12, 2010 at 12:08 pm #

    General question here for those sellers who actually handmake their items:

    Why would you photograph the items you make while they are encased in shrink wrap or cellophane? And have multiple views of the items, all wrapped up? I’ve scanned or photographed vintage items that are ‘new in package’ and shiny plastic wrap makes it harder to get a good pic. The items in question are supposedly handmade, not listed as vintage or supplies. WTF?

  34. Freckleyredhead January 12, 2010 at 2:37 pm #

    So how exactly would this mass call out thing work? Would each of us start a new thread calling out a particular reseller? Or would it be one thread with everyone posting a reseller in a new post?

  35. Freckleyredhead January 12, 2010 at 2:38 pm #

    Life during wartime, perhaps the sellers are trying to show how the items are packaged, ready for gift giving? Although I would think one view of that would be plenty.

  36. RocksInMySocks January 12, 2010 at 3:15 pm #

    Saturday nights seems like the time with the least forum admins around. Maybe someone else who ‘s been around longer could pinpoint the best time. I think the word needs to be spread to as many people as possible. Other than this bolg, would EtsyBitch be a good place to get the word out?

  37. Nobody Understands My Pain Either January 12, 2010 at 3:56 pm #

    Shut down reseller JJanak re-opened as Longing…guess who was featured on the front page almost as soon as their Etsy shop opened?

  38. del April 11, 2010 at 10:15 pm #

    In a similar vein, Daixiaole seems to be reselling shoes made in China.

    She sells them under both ‘handmade’ and ‘vintage’.

    Definitely not Vintage as they are handmade and new.

    Not handmade according to Etsy as they ship straight from China and she is based in Sydney.

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/daixiaole

    They are VERY cheap for handmade leather shoes: $50.00 USD. Surely they would have to be coming from a sweatshop?

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