mollyefarmer

27 Jan

At auction: http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6255825
Her listing: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39152943

A quick web search shows that some of the paintings in her shop were sold or are for sale here: http://www.slotinfolkart.com/March%2028,%202009%20Prices.html

She seems to like Billy Roper, whose bio is here: http://www.webspawner.com/users/broper/ and here http://apache.northgeorgia.edu/news/archives/feb2007.htm

At auction: http://www.liveauctioneers.com/h/item/6255914?ah=355-835a4&category=&itemtype=all
Her listing: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39107416

At auction: http://www.visitsoutherncomfort.com/beautarttore.html
Her listing: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39153182

At Auction: http://www.askart.com/AskART/artists/search/ArtistKeywords.aspx?searchtype=KEYWORDS&artist=110702
Her listing: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39150773

At auction: http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6255908
Her listing: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39150410

At auction: http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6255976
Her listing: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39144065

At auction: http://www.liveauctioneers.com/h/item/6255582?ah=355-835a4&category=&itemtype=
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39108960

At auction: http://www.art.com/products/p12259263-sa-i1642145/jean-baptiste-greuze-the-milkmaid.htm?sorig=cat&sorigid=0&dimvals=5002473&ui=9fb40ba243af43ac9aab769303d3efe0
Her listing: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39108555

At auction: http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6255078
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39107527

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45 Responses to “mollyefarmer”

  1. veryconfused January 27, 2010 at 11:19 am #

    Im confused as to what is being “called out” here. Antique dealers buy at auction and then re-sell. Please clarify.

  2. just amazed January 27, 2010 at 11:33 am #

    many of her listings indicate the artist who painted them. not her. not vintage. reselling. she may not know it is not allowed.

  3. Life During Wartime January 27, 2010 at 11:41 am #

    ^^^^Exactly. Her own art in a shop is fine, but selling work by other artists is reselling unless it’s vintage. I am guessing that most of the art in her shop is less than 20 years old, without having researched it.

    I think she may be confused about what the rules are for selling art on Etsy. If she happened to be checking out the site while the import paintings were being listed, for example, that would confuse anyone.

  4. baffled January 27, 2010 at 12:31 pm #

    I can’t be bothered to click on links if you can’t be bothered to make them clickable.

  5. Nobody Understands My Pain Either January 27, 2010 at 12:55 pm #

    Several of “her” paintings are actually quite famous, so there isn’t a chance that they’re antiques or vintage…they’re just knock-offs.

  6. MadeByM**** January 27, 2010 at 12:59 pm #

    You all are alway so kind and give them the benefit of the doubt about the Etsy rules…………..I’m not! I have a hard time thinking people find Etsy and immediately sign up for it withoug doing some kind of research on the site.

  7. JonhCocktoasten January 27, 2010 at 1:31 pm #

    Another reseller:

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/Eloice

  8. notvintage January 27, 2010 at 1:40 pm #

    What about this?
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39004170

  9. notvintage January 27, 2010 at 1:41 pm #

    It’s not that I could’nt be bothered, I didn’t know how.
    This person is a “personal friend” of the artist, she says. I wonder how, since some of these are in active auction, and are, um, deceased.

  10. notvintage January 27, 2010 at 1:43 pm #

    JonhCocktoasten Says:
    January 27, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    Another reseller:

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/Eloice

    &&&&&&&&&&&&

    Someody “hand embroidered” those shoes, but not the seller. These things have been around for ages; imports that can be found in Chinatowns very easily.

  11. lol January 27, 2010 at 8:17 pm #

    I saw her shop the other day. It had a painting in it that is currently in the Louvre. She’s not just violating etsy TOU’s, she is breaking the law by selling forgeries. It actually made me lol.

  12. notvintage January 27, 2010 at 8:42 pm #

    It actually pissed me off and made me gag.

  13. Betsy Berberian January 27, 2010 at 11:22 pm #

    Just discovered this blog. nice to know I can come here to get updates.

  14. Kirsi January 28, 2010 at 12:32 am #

    Isn’t this something the FBI would be interested in? And why would anyone with that kind of money buy a $90,000 painting from someone who doesn’t have an announcement, profile or shop policies? Or buying paintings by famous painters on Etsy to begin with? Paintings sold on Etsy by the artists themselves are one thing, but paintings from the 1800’s…

  15. Life During Wartime January 28, 2010 at 1:33 am #

    She doesn’t have much in the way of descriptions in her shop. Obviously the old paintings that are in the Louvre aren’t for sale. I have to wonder if Etsy is being pranked. Like a bunch of artists got together and opened a shop with some of their own work…plus some outrageously impossible listings?

    I can’t imagine anyone with $90K to spend on one piece of art buying a piece from an Etsy shop sight unseen, even if the listing wasn’t a fake. Unless maybe they got the money from winning big in one of the lotteries.

    Maybe artists outside the Etsy community think the site is an awesome joke, and they have a betting pool going to see how long it takes Etsy to contact them, or remove the listings, or close the shop. Or some of them are going to don faux moustaches and raid Etsy HQ looking for ‘stolen art’. Probably won’t happen, but I can dream…

  16. sb January 28, 2010 at 1:35 am #

    That Milkmaid one is like, a well known painting – it’s in the Louvre like lol said @11.

    If I didn’t get why the millenium pig was still there, then my disbelief if this painting stays will be off the fecking radar.

  17. sb January 28, 2010 at 2:02 am #

    Hey – that’s funny. Google her name, and she seems to be a member of what looks like a very nice church in Georgia. I had a look at some of the parish news, in which they speak of her as an artist.

    That doesn’t square up with her odd shop. What ARE you doing Mollye?

  18. itstinks January 28, 2010 at 6:26 am #

    Maybe that embroidery shoe maker is related to the Chinese tennis shoe guy.
    LOLOLOLhhaahahahah

  19. itstinks January 28, 2010 at 6:27 am #

    Oh no, I forgot – those are VINTAGE tennis shoes and this is clearly a HANDMADE embroideried shoe. What was I thinking??
    (sarcasm)

  20. jenjasmine January 28, 2010 at 6:33 pm #

    That embroidered shoe shop has a not for sale listing.

  21. JonhCocktoasten January 28, 2010 at 6:45 pm #

    Another reseller:

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/BBQyourheart

  22. Angel January 29, 2010 at 3:09 pm #

    jenjasmine,

    Remember. Wash lessly.

  23. chris January 29, 2010 at 7:38 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39169438

    The Broken Pitcher, oil on canvas by Jean-Baptiste Greuze, c. 1772–73; in the Louvre, Paris. 108 × 86 cm.

    Is etsy really this stupid????????????????????????????

  24. Ann January 30, 2010 at 9:43 am #

    The Greuze painting doesn’t really look like the real thing, but who would buy it for 90K? This is a really weird to throw in with her own paintings and others.

  25. Angel February 1, 2010 at 2:15 pm #

    Alrighty, WHO BOUGHT THE FAKE? *laughs*

  26. ohmeohmy February 1, 2010 at 3:54 pm #

    OMG,

    It’s not the same painting at all that is in the Louvre!

    Here is the Real painting (click on magnify more) http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg/asc/projects/comm544/library/images/092.jpg

    and Mollye Farmer’s supposed “real” painting: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39169438

    The face is totally different and painted by an unskilled artist.

    Here is another pic of the real painting: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic-art/245882/38470/The-Broken-Pitcher-oil-on-canvas-by-Jean-Baptiste-Greuze

  27. forum rubbernecker February 1, 2010 at 5:02 pm #

    Angel Says:
    February 1, 2010 at 2:15 pm
    Alrighty, WHO BOUGHT THE FAKE? *laughs*
    ________

    I am dying to know how this one went down. That’s a hell of an Etsy bill!

  28. Voice February 1, 2010 at 6:09 pm #

    Geez, I sure hope a sockpuppet bought that — come out, come out, whoever you are! And bravo!

  29. BalloonGirl February 1, 2010 at 6:47 pm #

    I cannot believe that someone bought this painting. Odds are that it is a case of shilling, but she obviously is going to have to pay the bill. How could etsy not have this listing removed when a million people flagged it, stating that it was hanging in the Louvre?! I seldom get worked up over this sort of thing, but come on, guys. It’s in the Louvre.
    Oh, and her shop is a mess of mistagging, misleading, and weirdness.

  30. BalloonGirl February 2, 2010 at 5:56 am #

    Interesting. This morning, the sale for the Greuze painting is gone from the account. However, she has sold the $99k Joe Satriani Ibanez guitar, painted by Donnie Hunt, as well as her own most expensive piece. The Ibanez, even if it is authentic, is not vintage, and was listed in the Art Category.
    Serious shenanigans going on with this account. Forgery is a bit more of a crime than mistagging or shilling. I think we might have all three going on here.
    This account really needs to be closed.

  31. BalloonGirl February 2, 2010 at 5:59 am #

    In fact, with two minutes of research, I found that the guitars were painted from 1990-1993.
    http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/JS3

  32. Angel February 2, 2010 at 10:11 am #

    Actually, it looks like that was when the guitar itself was built. So it could have been painted much much later!

  33. BalloonGirl February 5, 2010 at 12:14 pm #

    Okay, now the other two sales have been cancelled as well and the listings are back. The Louvre painting has not returned, however. Very weird.

  34. Kevin February 5, 2010 at 2:07 pm #

    Hi, I am Kevin. I helped Mollye put together her Etsy site. I see some of you
    have a few questions and lots of comments. I am here to clear up any
    misconceptions.

    Mollye Farmer is an artist, collector, and broker. As far as I can tell she can
    resale anything that is original and handmade. Etsy has re-listed her “sold”
    items at no cost to her without any problem. Etsy has voiced no objection to her
    sale items. Mollye owns everything you see on the site.

    All the art you see is real. The Ibanez JS3 is authentic, and was painted by
    Donnie Hunt in 1991. It is original and rare.

    As for the Jean-Baptiste Greuze paintings that you all love so much… Mollye
    bought these about 10 years ago at an antique shop. Upon removing the backing
    paper she found a signature that says “Handpainted by Greuze”. We are currently
    trying to find out what these are exactly. They are rectangular, and not oval
    like the ones in the Louvre. If you put them side by side, you can see they are
    not the same. However, it is very possible because of their age, that they could
    be studies painted by Greuze. Perhaps they were painted by one of his students.
    We do not really know, and we are trying to find out. If they are forgeries,
    they are very good, and very old. The reason you do not see them in the shop
    anymore is because Mollye removed them after someone bought one of them as a
    prank. This also happened to the guitar and her Black Chief painting. Because
    these were malicious pranks, Etsy took care of the situation promptly and is
    investigating the bogus buyers. If you would like to view the Greuze paintings,
    you can find them here:

    http://www.mollyefarmer.com/greuze/

    She really is a great lady and is totally new at this. She does not mean to
    offend anyone and is doing her best to get her shop put together. I’m sure she
    would appreciate some positive feedback.

    You can visit Mollye’s website at:

    http://www.mollyefarmer.com

    Thank you all so much,

    Kevin

    P.S. Please don’t hate Mollye, she is very nice.

  35. JonhCocktoasten February 6, 2010 at 4:18 am #

    Wow. Etsy must have racked up some lovely commissions on that $90K. Bahahahaha.

  36. visionaryphilosofer February 6, 2010 at 1:09 pm #

    I really love her art. I think she rocks.

  37. BalloonGirl February 6, 2010 at 1:24 pm #

    Look what I found here!

    http://www.mollyefarmer.com/greuze/

  38. BalloonGirl February 7, 2010 at 8:07 pm #

    If the guitar is authentic, and was painted in 1991, but not by mollye, then it can’t be sold on etsy. All of the art that she is reselling, that was not painted by her, must be at least 20 years old to be categorized as vintage and sold on etsy.

    If it is vintage, it should not be in the art category as the top category, but in the vintage category. The art category is only for items created by the shop owner. Again, if the item is authentic and vintage, it needs to be categorized as vintage. If it’s not vintage and not created by mollye, it can’t be sold on etsy, no matter how cool it is.

    It’s all in the TOUs on the etsy site. This is part of what has people upset. No one hates mollye, and I’m sorry about the pranks. Etsy should have contacted her to explain why her listings were incorrect long ago.

  39. sb February 9, 2010 at 1:54 am #

    I’ve no doubt Mollye is nice, as Kevin tells us. But the point is the things she sells, as BalloonGirl explained, are against the Etsy rules.

    But I would add that I do think it is questionable to offer an artwork for sale as a signed piece, such as these supposed Greuze pictures, when in fact this is entirely unauthenticated.

    On her website it looks like something handwritten in chalk. That does not make it ‘signed’ by the artist. To state otherwise is morally dubious, if not fraudulent, at least IMHO.

  40. BalloonGirl February 9, 2010 at 2:35 pm #

    is nice to keep having conversations with yourself

  41. sb February 10, 2010 at 2:58 am #

    What – me or you BalloonGirl?

    Um…would you like a cup of tea?

  42. sb February 10, 2010 at 3:01 am #

    Ah – I see. Not the real BalloonGirl. Tasteful link. Very dignified, dear.

  43. BalloonGirl February 10, 2010 at 2:15 pm #

    Yep, someone is impersonating me. I feel so famous now. Sorry, sb.

  44. pussdaddy March 7, 2010 at 3:18 pm #

    If you want to clear up any misconceptions Kevin try reading the fucking rules as to what can and can’t be sold on Etsy because the only one confused is you.

  45. Jeff S November 9, 2013 at 8:23 pm #

    Any updates on who this Mollye person is? Is s/he, in fact, the same person as “Kevin” is? I am trying to find out if the guitar is still for sale. But I fear the whole thing is a scam.

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