From the inbox- Muncheys/SignatureTshirts

23 Feb

Hello, me name is Elder Etsy seller username (Muncheys) and would like to ask your help in calling out another Esty seller biting everything I do. The Etsy biters username is (signaturetshirts)

Here is my Etsy shop:

Here’s the biters:

and here’s my listing calling them out:
I am categorizing this as editorial since it is going to come down to you (the blog readers) opinions. So, what do we think of this one??


42 Responses to “From the inbox- Muncheys/SignatureTshirts”

  1. MadeByM**** February 23, 2010 at 1:27 pm #

    Sayings on t-shirts isn’t anything new…..just because someone was on Etsy first doesn’t mean they’re the original. Neither shop is doing anything original……………….

  2. Amused February 23, 2010 at 1:36 pm #

    Do they have Rick Astley’s permission and how about that Star Wars thingy. Just sayin’

  3. um, no February 23, 2010 at 1:36 pm #

    i agree. they are sayings on t shirts. get in line if you think you’ve been copied on that one.

  4. prozillian February 23, 2010 at 1:50 pm #

    I can understand the annoyance. No one’s saying that sayings on t-shirts are something new, but the second shop has styled their photos EXACTLY the same way as the first, and has undercut the first shop by a nickel. That kind of stuff sucks.

    Have to say though, both shops irk me in that they’re just taking one image of a t-shirt, tinting it different colors, and photoshopping sayings on it. Like the scrabble tile makers who photoshop images onto tiles. Do not want. How about some actual images of the finished product? Yuck. I never buy from shops that mass produce photos like this instead of photographing actual, in real life finished products.

  5. Life During Wartime February 23, 2010 at 1:53 pm #

    I sympathize with Muncheys, but just like the dozens of duplicate pendant-on-a-chain items on Etsy there is SBA they can do about it.

    If the shirts had lines of Muncheys’ original poetry, or original artwork, that would be different.

    Copying is annoying, but neither shop has problems making sales. I’ve checked bunches of times to see if anyone on Etsy makes/sells jewelry like mine (or like I used to make prior to my caregiver’s injuries) and no one does. This isn’t necessarily a good indicator for opening a successful shop. I actually think my designs would bomb on Etsy.

    If something is popular, it will be duplicated or copied, sometimes coincidentally. I say be happy with your success, and keep on making shirts!

  6. KR February 23, 2010 at 3:00 pm #

    I think she is also objecting to the style of the other shop’s photos and overall look of the store.

    But truthfully these stores look like you order the shirt and then they order from zazzle or cafepress or some other tshirt place to make the tshirt. This is “handmade!?”

    Munchey might also be made that this seller has the same racket going as she does.

  7. lethal February 23, 2010 at 3:06 pm #

    Seriously, neither of these shops have anything I haven’t seen on t-shirts at the dreaded Spencer’s Gifts or on websites that sell mouthy t-shirts. I think, as mentioned above, that this is hard for me to classify as handmade too. Typing something you read somewhere into a website that then prints your t-shirts? That skill must have taken forever to develop and refine!

  8. Nobody Understands My Pain Either February 23, 2010 at 3:19 pm #

    It’s a pot and kettle mixer…

  9. Life During Wartime February 23, 2010 at 3:28 pm #

    Quite a few successful — and I guess legitimate — shops on Etsy have very little originality going on. I think that is their appeal. Not everyone (sadly) is shopping on Etsy for uniquely handmade or hard to find real vintage. Not even the majority of shoppers.

  10. Lis February 23, 2010 at 3:30 pm #

    I have to say that I do have a printing press here in my home for my shirts I print. It’s called Sublimation printing and easy to do once you have the equipment like many of us shirt printers, mug printers and such. But I do agree, the shirt sayings are everywhere and most are all gathered from everywhere just as she copied the star wars logo.
    Making a shirt or mug with Sublimation is like printing a photo off your copier. and just as easy. It’s just costly with the ink running anywhere from $300 and up

  11. Thud February 23, 2010 at 4:02 pm #

    We have sublimation equipment, too. But we print our shirts for photos and they *are* original.
    Munchey’s shop is the same old stuff that you can get anywhere, so is Signature Shirts. Really hard to care.

  12. notvintage February 23, 2010 at 4:05 pm #

    Also do not care.

  13. nox February 23, 2010 at 5:03 pm #

    I see nothing original in the Munchey’s shop. I do see a lot of “borrowed” logos/slogans. Pot, meet kettle.

  14. kitten February 23, 2010 at 5:09 pm #

    I hardly think this Muncheys seller invented sayings on a t-shirt. Both shops are unoriginal and ***yawn*** boring. I will say that if I was in the market for a t-shirt with a saying, seeing the listing calling out the other shop would send me straight to signatureshirt’s shop. So tacky and unprofessional, I’d never buy from Muncheys.

  15. JonhCocktoasten February 23, 2010 at 5:41 pm #

    Meh, I don’t think this is what I want to see on ECO. The claims in the forums are already endless and frequently baseless.

  16. flagflag February 23, 2010 at 6:41 pm #

    another garage sale ughh:

    and this is by no means vintage or handmade:

    here is wholesale place to get more of those teabag holders:

  17. WTFISAPDF February 23, 2010 at 7:24 pm #

    They both have decent sales and all I know is I am so sick of seeing the saying “pot, meet kettle”. No offense nox, but there are a few who use the expression all the time in the Etsy forums.

    How about “ass, meet face”, both shops can put it on a t-shirt and we can call it a day.

  18. Kiss My Ass February 23, 2010 at 8:20 pm #

    who the fuck cares! just because you sell t-shirts on Etsy does not mean no one else can sell t-shirts on Etsy. Who made you the BOSS of Etsy.

  19. Kiss My Ass February 23, 2010 at 8:24 pm #

    by the way……………Muncheys’s Profile


    Hello, I am working on this check back later.


    you have been on Etsy since
    February 12, 2008

    WOW…….. I guess you have been too busy CALLING OUT PEOPLE to work on your PROFILE.

  20. peaceloveandprofits February 24, 2010 at 2:57 am #

    I’m with everyone else here, get over it your shit is selling too.

  21. willowandme February 24, 2010 at 5:17 am #

    I agree with all of the above comments. There is nothing new or original in either shop. Perhaps their request to ECO was just a way to get publicity.

    In agreement with #18 but also would like to say that for someone who has been on Etsy such a long time, I would think you would want to have something listed in your policies section as well. I wouldn’t buy from someone with no policies listed at all.

  22. box o' cookies February 24, 2010 at 5:27 am #

    not too professional either, to be “calling out” the “copycat seller” in the item listing.

  23. Ginna February 24, 2010 at 5:43 am #

    Agrees with Box O’ Cookies – Munchey’s little calling out of the other seller in the item listing is extremely unprofessional. Looks very childish and quite frankly … asinine.

  24. WTFISAPDF February 24, 2010 at 7:00 am #

    But I have to say I do think it’s more than coincidental that the other shop has photos just like Munchy’s. That would sort of irritate me.

  25. JajieBo February 24, 2010 at 7:04 am #

    Yeah, that call-out listing that gives the other shop’s name could really get you into some serious poop, Munchey. Etsy won’t care that you’re being “copied”, but they will take notice if you call-out another seller in one of your listings.

  26. JajieBo February 24, 2010 at 7:09 am #

    And I apologize for being so blunt, but if you don’t want to be copied, then don’t offer a product that is already being offered by countless other sources. Maybe go with something a little more original.

  27. notvintage February 24, 2010 at 8:18 am #


  28. Voice February 24, 2010 at 9:40 am #

    Argh! On the FP right now:

    She states in the listing that it’s not old (even though she puts the word “antique” right in the title) and that she bought it four years ago. That’s right, she bought it — didn’t make it — and it’s not vintage — not a supply — WTF is it doing on Etsy then? And kitschinsink, why would you pick something so blatantly not allowed for inclusion in your treasury? And Etsy, why would you put it on the FP? Gah. FAILx3.

  29. Ann February 24, 2010 at 10:00 am #

    Why doesn’t Etsy just set up a category that says “used” . That would cover a lot and maybe leave the vintage for real vintage stuff. IDK – it’s depressing to see all this stuff on Etsy.

  30. JonhCocktoasten February 24, 2010 at 10:36 am #

    Yeah, Munchey’s stuff is all stuff I have seen before.

  31. MadeByM**** February 24, 2010 at 11:26 am #

    The time sensitive snowman is funny! Hey, it’s handmade! Follows the TOU’s better than the clock below!

    The self-admitted that it’s not old, antique “style” clock on the FP…………Etsy has become a big joke!

  32. Life During Wartime February 24, 2010 at 11:38 am #

    I think the clock appealed to Etsy admin because it was manufactured to look like a maybe older piece AND the printed map background on the face simulates the Etsy ideal of chopping up a real antique (perhaps valuable) map to make a battery operated inexpensive clock. Etsy in my opinion has always had a ‘treasure to trash’ aesthetic about vintage. Not the vintage shops, the site itself.

  33. notvintage February 24, 2010 at 12:08 pm #


  34. Em February 24, 2010 at 12:18 pm #

    I think notvintage summed it up nicely.

  35. notvintage February 24, 2010 at 2:58 pm #

    Sure it’s handmade, but it’s against the TOU on a basic level: it cannot be sold.
    The guy thinks it’s about humor, but it isn’t. It’s about doing anything to get attention; the end justifies the means.
    Tacky, unethical, and trailer-trash funny.

  36. UnaTronic February 25, 2010 at 1:36 am #

    #17- If only there WAS a boss of etsy….I think flagging just goes in the circular file.
    I actually wanted a “biter” shirt but I’d rather not buy it from…um…a biter. I would just make one for myself, but I think I might die of irony.

  37. PussDaddy February 25, 2010 at 1:56 am #

    If I ever do meet that kettle I am going to bitch slap the hell right out of it.

  38. janicejoplin2 February 25, 2010 at 4:42 am #

    Munchey I am sure I saw all your T shirts for sale on the Jersey Shore.

    More people are dying to get over to regretsy..snowman

    The clock? Sickens me that its on the front page.

  39. wahwah February 25, 2010 at 10:12 am #

    I would only care about this if Munchey wrote these things herself. Come up with something original or stfu.

  40. mia February 26, 2010 at 8:42 pm #

    Love,Love,Love muncheys tees!

  41. redickerous March 2, 2010 at 11:39 am #

    Crybabying is not pretty

  42. Kayce Obenshain March 2, 2010 at 2:32 pm #

    It appears like you might be creating problems yourself by attempting to solve this matter rather than thinking about the reason why their is a issue from the get go.

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