LiveInStyle

16 Mar

So many feathered and sequined headbands on Etsy look identical- but these headbands not only look identical to the import site, but even have the same photos! Not surprisingly, they have no profile filled out either (lol)! Worse yet, they have been featured on blogs and have even made it to the FP 14 times. ARGHH!

Live in Style headband:
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=32936965

Ali Express importer:
http://hairfactory.en.alibaba.com/product/268954490-209313035/Feather_Hair_Band.html

Live in Style headband:
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?ref=sr_list_20&listing_id=31894904&ga_search_query=feather+headband&ga_search_type=user_shop_ttt_id_7358248

Ali Express Importer:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/600299/209571414-268600375/100-natural-feather-headband-handmade-headwear-Alexander-Mcqueen-HW090028.html

Live in Style headband:
http://www.etsy.com/view_transaction.php?transaction_id=17390418

Ali Express importer:
http://wholesale.alibaba.com/product-gs/269659745-Japanese-style-feather-headband-handmade-feather-decoration-feather-headwear-HW090037-wholesalers.html

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60 Responses to “LiveInStyle”

  1. MadeByM**** March 16, 2010 at 12:14 pm #

    And I’m sure it’s been flagged over and over again……..but to no avail………too much of a money maker for Etsy!

  2. Kris10 March 16, 2010 at 12:32 pm #

    Wake up Etsy

  3. liveInStyle March 16, 2010 at 12:45 pm #

    Thank you for bring this to my attention. I had no idea that importers are using my images on their listing. I am very, very angry about this. These are images taken by me with my camera. My rights are not protected. I am not sure what I should do…

  4. WTFISAPDF March 16, 2010 at 12:53 pm #

    Oh, my hair salon sells these… for less.

    Etsy makes me sicker and sicker with each passing day.

  5. JonhCocktoasten March 16, 2010 at 1:06 pm #

    Pathetic. What a douchebag.

  6. Bootsy March 16, 2010 at 1:22 pm #

    You are trying to say that TWO different wholesalers are using your shots? That is kinda hard to believe.

  7. Bootsy March 16, 2010 at 1:23 pm #

    So if they are using your photos that means you are admitting you are reselling said products??

  8. Brian March 16, 2010 at 1:34 pm #

    Ah, yes. Portobello also has several of her feathered headbands/fascinators listed on Alibaba as well—with the same pictures she’s using on etsy. There are some links to the items in the “About” comments section here. Reported to Michelle at Etsy days ago. Still on etsy though.

  9. WTFISAPDF March 16, 2010 at 2:34 pm #

    I just found three China wholesalers selling identical necklaces but with different pictures.

    Must everybody’s stealing everything from LiveinStyle.

    I guess I will forward all these links to Michelle. Not that it will do any good, but what the heck.

    You are funny, LiveInStyle. You claim they are copying your pictutes but you never said a damn word about them stealing your design??

    Yeah right.

  10. Noel March 16, 2010 at 2:52 pm #

    They were also on Urban Outfitters for a while. I reported this seller as soon as she started selling on etsy…

    I’m pretty sure the “model” is borrowed and then photoshopped… the items may still be handmade (VERY easy to do!) but the photos are no way the sellers.

  11. Noel March 16, 2010 at 2:54 pm #

    PS. Alibaba is NOT a good site to prove reselling, as they do actually lift images straight from etsy. I’ve been fighting it myself for some time now.

  12. Life During Wartime March 16, 2010 at 3:10 pm #

    I’m thinking that you could do a better job of describing your materials if you actually make hair accessories yourself from beads and feathers. What kind of feather is a “Lady Amherst”? Is that a bird native to Etsy? Or why say ‘silver beads’ implying they are metal when the close-up pic looks like silver lined bugle beads, which are glass, to me?

    Ali Baba maybe a photo thief, but I have doubts that the seller makes her items.

  13. WTFISAPDF March 16, 2010 at 3:11 pm #

    Well, if they lift the the image, they are still selling the identical products. So how is that not reselling?

  14. WTFISAPDF March 16, 2010 at 3:26 pm #

    Here’s the Audrey from LiveInStyle
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=28285202

    And here’s the Sinatra from FeatherBrain
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?ref=vl_other_1&listing_id=39795958

  15. Em March 16, 2010 at 3:51 pm #

    The models are definitely photoshopped… it doesn’t even look like she’s wearing a headband, the feathers are just pasted on top of her hair.

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=32370882

  16. BlueKittyMiniatures March 16, 2010 at 3:54 pm #

    Small apologetic coff to LDW – Lady Amherst is a colourful variety of pheasant

  17. ohmeohmy March 16, 2010 at 4:11 pm #

    Liveinstyle,

    I would demand that alibaba remove the photos immediately.

    I think a lot of etsy sellers handmake stuff and photograph it, then alibaba re-sellers steal the image and copy the exact design to sell.

    My god, the re-sellers are even more rampant than I thought. I didn’t know they were also reselling hair stuff. Geeze, every category has been “touched” now.

  18. detroit March 16, 2010 at 4:11 pm #

    Hm. I could use some more money – with the poor economy and all.

    So, from my observation, all it takes to make a bit of loot on Etsy is this:

    Find something wholesale online that matches the infantile trends on Etsy’s front page. Who cares if the whole internet can see I took not only the items, but someone else’s pictures? Not Etsy! Woot!

    Then, mark the items up significantly.

    Catch the eye of the admin. Since, they’re uncreative, and like to feature the same look over and over again. So much so, that they’ll feature the identical ‘handmade’ item, made, mysteriously, by several different people. Including… lucky me!

    Watch the sales pour in. Probably I’ll be selected for a profile! Since my items have that Etsy ‘look’, and are oddly familiar. Something the admins just love!

    Perhaps someone with a quarter of a brain will discover my ‘techniques’. And expose me – with links to my wholesaler and everything. ; (

    And, Etsy will respond swiftly! By featuring me on the front page yet again!!!

    As the sales continue to rise, I’ll occupy my time (of which I have a lot, since I’m not busy actually making anything), with planning out how to swindle the IRS.

    Whaddya all think? A good business model?

    Maybe, since I’m so clever, I’ll open another store offering my shop critique and proofreading services.

    I’ll also use my awsome righting skills, of which I have alot. There really impressive, I tell ya! To write ‘nice’ letters to all those meanies and haters who are calling me out. But, really, I’ll be subtly insulting them! And they’ll realize two hours later how bad I told them to ‘get stuffed’!!!

    Good plan?

  19. Noel March 16, 2010 at 4:15 pm #

    Lady Amherst Pheasant:

    If the items are handmade (which after watching this seller for a long time, I’m leaning towards) they are just premade feather pads and beaded appliques glued to a headband. If you are just purchasing a premade applique, you may not be as familiar with the types of beads as you would if you were doing the beading yourself. All of the appliques are easy to come by, and you can find plenty of similar headbands that no one would question on etsy.

    Stealing and photoshopping someone elses stock photo isn’t ok, but unfortunately it’s not grounds for etsy to take the seller down unless the photo copyright holder specifically makes the request.

  20. UnaBee March 16, 2010 at 4:19 pm #

    detroit-
    let’s go into business together! I’ll take the photos (aka use the cut-n-paste on my computer)and I have a wholesaler number. I’ll give it to you and you can email a bunch of stores in China. Buy handmade!

  21. WTFISAPDF March 16, 2010 at 5:28 pm #

    Sounds like a great plan detroit, but do you have a rainy day fund in the event you need a lawyer to go after unscrupulous bloggers

  22. it stinks March 16, 2010 at 6:14 pm #

    detroit, I think you should definitely go with that plan. Sounds like a good business model. I’m glad you thought it all through before starting your business. You sound like someone we could all learn from.
    Maybe you should also open a store on etsy offering mentoring services?
    Sounds like a winner to me 🙂

  23. Annonymous March 16, 2010 at 6:44 pm #

    I noticed that she was using photos from Urban Outfitters a long time ago, and reported it several times before they were finally taken down. And now it does look like she just photoshops new pictures over the same stock photo. Yeah, sorry. There’s no way you took those pictures with your own camera.

  24. albatross March 16, 2010 at 9:44 pm #

    everybody has seen those urban pictures on etsy since day one. i bet some of them are still up on the uo site, it wouldn’t surprise me. no point lying, you just look like an idiot.

  25. Life During Wartime March 16, 2010 at 10:51 pm #

    Thanks to all who clued me in about Lady Amherst. I learned something new today!

  26. Life During Wartime March 16, 2010 at 11:03 pm #

    If she is attaching premade ornaments to the headband, then that is handmade on Etsy.

    That is why sellers need to say something about their craft. What they do, what skills they contributed to making their items. Just a brief mention of the handmaking aspect, keeping it real, will spare legit shops that assemble stuff from getting called out unfairly.

  27. wahwah March 17, 2010 at 5:22 am #

    There’s one on the fp now, she attached a clip to a pre-made latex flower and lands on the freaking fp.

  28. MadeByM**** March 17, 2010 at 8:36 am #

    I’m still not convinced she’s even “assembling” them……..

  29. CMOM March 17, 2010 at 8:46 am #

    Detroit – you forgot one important step. After you fill your shop with listings you then need to create several “sock puppet” etsy accounts so that you can purchase your own feather headbands and leave positive feedback immediately. Don’t worry if you can’t think of unique user names – a name and birth year will do.

  30. jcjohn March 17, 2010 at 10:41 am #

    You guys are hilarious!

    Anyway, sad, sad situation for every category to be glutted with things that don’t fit the rules.

  31. ohmeohmy March 17, 2010 at 12:57 pm #

    I am sooo confused!

    Is someone copying this seller’s designs? Are some manufacturers on alibaba using her pics?

  32. Annonymous March 17, 2010 at 1:23 pm #

    No, she is using their pictures. She did it before, using pictures from Urban Outfitter’s site. She’s probably attaching the feather pad to the headband herself, but she’s using pictures from other sites for her Etsy shop. Big no no…

  33. kitkat March 17, 2010 at 9:10 pm #

    Live in Style didn’t take those photos, unless they are also moonlighting as a stock photographer… http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http:http://www.fotosearch.com/photos-images/bob-haircut.html

    And…the photo quality in that shop goes from bad to professional- pretty fishy!

  34. kitkat March 17, 2010 at 11:26 pm #

    oops, the proper link is here for the original stock photo-
    http://www.fotosearch.com/photos-images/bob-haircut.html

    the stuff about importers using her pictures is probably the same thing she’s telling Etsy.

  35. Bootsy March 17, 2010 at 11:59 pm #

    Is “candybella” our crazy bella too? It sure looks like her!

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=29890930

  36. Meh March 18, 2010 at 4:25 am #

    Don’t think so Bootsy. Link in her profile- http://www.ilovecandybella.com Says the proprietor is Kati Paprota. I don’t particularly think it looks like her either…

  37. MadeByM**** March 18, 2010 at 6:04 am #

    kitkat Says:
    March 17, 2010 at 11:26 pm
    oops, the proper link is here for the original stock photo-
    http://www.fotosearch.com/photos-images/bob-haircut

    Good detective work!!!!!!

  38. MadeByM**** March 18, 2010 at 6:08 am #

    So, all she’s done is “cut & paste” her “assembled” item onto a photo of a model! So, you really don’t know what it will look like on your head! That’s total BS!

  39. laura March 18, 2010 at 7:01 am #

    kitkat Says:
    March 17, 2010 at 11:26 pm
    oops, the proper link is here for the original stock photo-
    http://www.fotosearch.com/photos-images/bob-haircut.html

    the stuff about importers using her pictures is probably the same thing she’s telling Etsy.

    Wow! that seems like so much work when it’s probably easier to ohhh..make your own items and take your own pictures! And they probbaly are allowed if she is assembling them. Why all the effort with stealing photos and pasting her handbands on them?

    Are people really that out for a quick buck? It seems so werid. Just sell the stuff on Ebay!

  40. laura March 18, 2010 at 7:03 am #

    Hey, did anyone see the lab with Michelle about resellers? I was only in there for a few minutes, but it actually warmed the cold recesses of my heart. Sometimes, it’s just nice to know that someone at Etsy considers this a priority, which it seems they do.

    I agree the major flaw is in the whole system though, and removing sellers here and there is never going to fix the problem.

  41. Wren March 18, 2010 at 7:18 am #

    I noticed that when you go back in forth between two of the pictures with that stock bob haircut photo, the items become clearly noticeable as being “photoshopped” on. As everyone else has said, that is slightly misleading, even if the original items “shopped” in are her own and not the wholesalers.

    I mean, she probably took the other pictures in each listing. And if you look close, one of the photos showing the headband in her hand is the same one “shopped” on the stock photo.

  42. Annonymous March 18, 2010 at 8:23 am #

    You know, I have no problem with the product itself. I honestly don’t. There are tons of sellers on Etsy selling similar products, and she’s just another drop in the bucket. Did she just buy a feather pad or an applique? Yes. But she did have to assemble it, and (hopefully) line it.

    But it’s the photo stealing that really bugs me. She keeps taking photos from other places, and passes them off as her own. They’re very misleading, and doesn’t show the buyer the true product. I also hate how she keeps claiming her rhinestone headbands are “Swarovski”. They’re acrylic! You can tell just looking at the photos! If you go to shops that sell appliques, you can see in the description that they are acrylic, not Swarovski. I don’t know how she can call cheap acrylic rhinestones Swarovski, and charge the prices that she does.

  43. notvintage March 18, 2010 at 8:55 am #

    Anyone who buys that cheap shit is a sucker, just like everyone who thinks that HeyM is going to do something about resellers.
    How they do love to obfuscate. Heard it, heard it, heard it and it’s bullshit, bullshit, bullshit every time.

  44. MadeByM**** March 18, 2010 at 10:15 am #

    Yes, it’s very sad to know your truly handcrafted or true vintage items are in the same site with mass produced, barely Etsy-legal, faux vintage junk!

  45. MadeByM**** March 18, 2010 at 10:21 am #

    Not to mention copyright infringement, stolen photos, etc.!

  46. Life During Wartime March 18, 2010 at 10:49 am #

    My guess as to the reason this seller ‘borrowed’ the photo of the bob hair woman is the model looks a tiny bit like the cowl seller Etsy admin loves. If this was her thinking, I do believe it worked.

  47. laura March 18, 2010 at 11:13 am #

    I have to say that I am loving that word, obfuscate.

    I see more resellers gone now then I did a month ago, but it doesn’t really matter until they find a way to fix the issue. I just don’t get why new shops aren’t screened? How many new shops open up every day? It has to me more feasible then the non exisistent flagging system.

  48. kitkat March 19, 2010 at 6:40 am #

    Looks like the importers took the stock photo and the urban outfitter photos to use on their sites and then she took the photos from them. My guess is that since she’s using their photos, she’s probably just reselling the headbands too. Who would bother to go to a wholesaler’s website just to steal the photos and not just go ahead and resell the $2 headband. (Sadly it’s cheaper than buying the materials and assembling it here). The very fact that she said these are her photos, shows that she doesn’t much care for rules.

  49. Annonymous March 19, 2010 at 8:13 am #

    Thank you, kitkat. That made me so angry when I read her post. I hope she gets kicked off.

  50. tenley March 19, 2010 at 1:52 pm #

    3 pieces sold at 2.92 give or take and she sells them from 19.00 a piece. omg.

  51. 'Elle March 20, 2010 at 9:53 pm #

    What a horrid bitch, seriously.

  52. Brian March 22, 2010 at 8:08 pm #

    Another etsy (re)seller has the identical sequin/bead headbands as this reseller. Example – LiveInStyle’s “Charlotte” headband:
    http://www.etsy.com/view_transaction.php?transaction_id=26863232

    And DanaCastle’s identical “Art Deco WIngs” headband:
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=40604031

    Plus a bunch more of the same beaded headbands, and probably the feathered ones too.

    What a coincidence! *sarcasm*

  53. amino March 24, 2010 at 7:42 pm #

    DanaCastle is not a reseller, she is merely an individual that lacks creativity but knows how to glue things together. Since her beginning, I’ve watched her copy and copy any accessory that other sellers have been successful at selling. It’s really pathetic and insulting to see sellers’ items, descriptions, and even cute and creative little titles copied by Dana. Just unfortunate because you can tell her items are of inferior quality just from pictures, if you have a trained eye. Most buyers don’t though and will pick her items as they are cheaper than the competition. Oh well. She is a librarian, how much money can she make at that, she needs to eat too….

  54. LittleBit March 26, 2010 at 9:58 am #

    And a million other sellers on etsy use the same appliques to make headbands, etc, with. Hand assembling is allowed on etsy.

    And it’s not a crime if you can’t take good pictures. 🙂 I mean, remember, LiveInStyle steals her pictures from other sites. Of course those are good. A professional took them.

  55. LittleBit March 26, 2010 at 10:07 am #

    I mean, at this rate, we need to say something about everyone that sells feathered or sequined headbands.

    There’s just tons – it’s getting ridiculous to focus on just the few.

    Kaang
    Featherbrain: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39291588
    TessaKim: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=43494554
    Luciabella: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=43216386

    The list could go on and on. Hand assembled is allowed. Shouldn’t we be focusing on the people that are just blantantly buying something, and then just reselling it? I mean, at least they people are still assembling. Some jewelry makers just buy a charm, stick it on a necklace, and sell it for $20. Half of the people on etsy are doing things like that.

  56. Cheeky March 26, 2010 at 11:43 am #

    And don’t forget about BethanyLorelle: http://www.etsy.com/shop/bethanylorelle

  57. Missy March 27, 2010 at 3:59 pm #

    You know, I just had to say this. As a fellow librarian, I need to point out that we’re not poor and stupid. This just boils me up whenever people assume things like that. Not only do we need a master’s degree – do YOU have a master’s degree by the way? – but you need to have continuous training on how to stay up-to-date with changing technologies. We get paid a hell of a lot better than people assume we do, and I bet you’re one of those poor saps that’s trying to make a living off of Etsy alone and are just jealous that other people are making more. I don’t know who any of these people are, but I applaud that they’ve managed to make a name for themselves. So before you go ragging on people for their profession, look at how much schooling YOU’VE had, and how much money YOU’RE making, and then just shut the hell up.

  58. Missy March 27, 2010 at 4:01 pm #

    And isn’t the point of this whole entire post the fact that this LiveInStyle girl seems to be stealing pictures from other websites? What a tangent you people seem to have gone off on. Why don’t we all stop bitching about stupid things, and try to make our own Etsy shops better. That’s a much better way to spend out time.

  59. amino March 29, 2010 at 1:14 am #

    I’m a nurse anesthetist, I have a BSN and a MSN. I’m always continuing my education and being reevaluated every two years. Because of this, I have decided to get my PhD out of it to aid in research. I’m not a seller, but I enjoy supporting TRUE artisan work. I never said you were stupid.

    http://annoyedlibrarian.blogspot.com/2008/08/mean-librarian-salaries.html

    You can google my salary.

  60. Dee April 27, 2010 at 6:31 pm #

    featured in todays etsy finds as well!!

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