finkgifts

31 Mar

http://www.etsy.com/shop/finkgifts

A shop filled with pocket watch necklaces which you can find absolutely everywhere.

For example, I’m pretty sure this:
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Mini-Vintage-Copper-Bronze-Pocket-Watch-Chain-Necklace-8202-p-10896.html

Is this:
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=41705478

I’ve flagged this seller before, clearly with no results.

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30 Responses to “finkgifts”

  1. Life During Wartime March 31, 2010 at 10:10 am #

    But if she buys the watch and chain separately, and assembles them herself, she is legit handmade.

    I think she can claim to do this, even if she buys completed necklaces, and still be okay. How could anyone prove otherwise?

  2. etsycallout March 31, 2010 at 10:41 am #

    the wholesaler item comes with a chain.

  3. MadeByM**** March 31, 2010 at 10:54 am #

    I was going to say the same thing, Life……it falls under the manufactured charm strung on a chain “legal” for Etsy! The sales prove it!

  4. MadeByM**** March 31, 2010 at 10:56 am #

    Oops, it comes with a chain……..but do you think they’re gonna reveal that? Doubt it!! That sucks………..

  5. PussDaddy March 31, 2010 at 11:07 am #

    If the name fits wear it. Although RatFink might fit better.

  6. Life During Wartime March 31, 2010 at 11:51 am #

    It isn’t the seller’s surname that is the issue, PD, but thanks for reminding me of Ed Roth LOL

    If Etsy’s scam, er, scram bot had been programmed by someone with half a brain, shops and/or seller IDs with the characters _gift_ in them would be sent in a list to admin for inspection as they are opened. See also:
    boutique
    emporium
    trader
    gifts
    wish
    dream
    …and others that escape me at the moment.

  7. Dee March 31, 2010 at 12:33 pm #

    Thank you, I came across this seller earlier this week and was trying to find a wholesale source.

    I feel better reporting them know.

  8. detroit March 31, 2010 at 12:47 pm #

    Sheesh! You guys do not appreciate the artistic process.

    This genius sat, and, day after day pondered watches and lockets. She rent her hair and beat her breast. After five feverish, sleepless nights, she was struck by, dare I say it? Divine artistic inspiration.

    Why…could she possibly? Would it work? Had it ever been done before???? Should she, could she….STRING THEM ON A CHAIN????

    At great peril to her artistic and professional reputation, she strungeth the watches and lockets on the chains that came with them in the box.

    And ART was born.

    And Etsy riches followed….

  9. detroit March 31, 2010 at 12:56 pm #

    And 1,500+ sales!!??!!

    Christ almighty!

    I don’t care if this shyte is Etsy ‘legal’ (though, from the looks of the wholesale page, this person didn’t even put them on the chain).

    This is RESELLING. There is no ART involved, no CRAFT. No aesthetic decision making!!!

    I keep trying to analyze why I care so much. It just, would be really, really cool! And a great revolution for the artists and crafters of the world if Etsy worked remotely like it was supposed to. Such potential wasted – it’s really aggravating.

    I thought getting away from this commercial stuff – offering an alternative – was the whole point of Etsy. I thought.

  10. MadeByM**** March 31, 2010 at 1:02 pm #

    I’m with your there, Detroit! The “old” Etsy is long gone…… : (

  11. itstinks March 31, 2010 at 2:46 pm #

    So I went to Zibbets today to check them out and see if maybe I should just move there. And who do I see (and they were a featured seller no less) but Jewelssosweet. Wasn’t she discussed at length here about her resell jewelry?

    Sigh.

  12. itstinks March 31, 2010 at 2:48 pm #

    Here she is:
    https://etsycallout.wordpress.com/?s=jewelssosweet

    And everyone was so encouraging to her as featured seller. Can’t they tell that stuff is mass produced? I mean, geez, it’s really obvious.

  13. JohnCocktoasten March 31, 2010 at 2:48 pm #

    Yes she was.

  14. PussDaddy March 31, 2010 at 3:15 pm #

    Didn’t we do a reseller watch person too?

  15. PussDaddy March 31, 2010 at 3:37 pm #

    Did they take jewelssosweet down as featured seller at Zibbet as I can’t find her now? Thanks.

  16. Life During Wartime March 31, 2010 at 3:37 pm #

    Yeah, the lack of creative effort stinks.

    But I can’t see how Etsy could remove items like this when one piece items, like plated rings with no embellishment or fancy treatment to the metal can be sold as handmade jewelry. While the identical item is sold in Etsy shops from Hong Kong as commercial supplies. How is a single piece assembled?

    The really odd thing about it to me is that most sellers are doing more with their pendants and chains, or rings, or watch pendants, than just assembling those 2 pieces (if they are even doing that), yet the shops with the least handmaking effort applied to their pieces have the highest sales. Buyers are flocking to Etsy for mass produced cookie cutter identical items.

  17. Cat Power March 31, 2010 at 5:32 pm #

    LDW, that says a lot about the shoppers that frequent Etsy, now doesn’t it. Either they have no taste, or concept of what handmade embodies, or they just don’t give a good GD!…I’m beginning to think it’s the latter!

  18. supporthandmade March 31, 2010 at 5:40 pm #

    Not sure if this is the place to link this, but in this article today http://www.etsy.com/storque/spotlight/guest-curator-goth-thrives-with-haute-macabre-7551/

    there’s a picture of a coat http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?ref=vt_related_1&listing_id=42175764

    from this shop http://www.etsy.com/shop/yuan123

    My interest was piqued because it says, “Hello,everyone,welcome to my shop.
    […]
    Each piece of clothing will have cost us a lot of time and effort, design and manufacturing process are very complex, but we take seriously each and every detail, here is part of the clothing production process:
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=36281623.
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=36863269
    I hope my customers to have more comprehensive understanding of my design, and hope that customers will be able to like my designs.”

    Seems like in those photos and in the text at the top of their greeting that more than one person is making these clothes. I am not sure if it is a legitimate collaboration (there’s no information provided in the profile), a translation issue (they translated restaurant for shop), and/or a reseller. Does someone want to look into this?

  19. Dee March 31, 2010 at 6:16 pm #

    OMG, it is steampunk Cat Power, don’t you get it? Who cares if it is handmade? The price is right, so buy buy buyl Admin cashes in kaching, kaching, kaching….

  20. missme April 1, 2010 at 3:18 am #

    Cat Power,
    If these shoppers only knew that all they would have to do is find the wholesale source they would be able to actually SAVE money, instead of purchasing items with prices that are triple the amount of the wholesale price. They have a computer obviously to shop Etsy-why not dig a little deeper(like we do here). Are these people really that dumb?

  21. yael April 1, 2010 at 4:19 am #

    oh my god…

  22. MadeByM**** April 1, 2010 at 5:59 am #

    When it’s “in fashion” it doesn’t matter where it comes from or how much it costs or if it’s handmade or not………as long as they are “in”……

  23. JK April 1, 2010 at 7:57 am #

    And friends still ask me why I don’t sell the things I make on Etsy. Why should I, when the number of sales shops like this get show that buyers clearly prefer mass-assembled reseller crap?

  24. elizabeth April 1, 2010 at 10:12 am #

    I am so very tempted to order up a bunch of those watches and reap the benefits in my shop, too. The least they could do would be to add a little charm to the chain or something, though. They are etsy legal, though, and the buyers certainly are buying!

  25. Life During Wartime April 1, 2010 at 10:44 am #

    Missme, I’ve noticed that many buyers on Etsy pay more — whether it’s supplies, vintage or reseller items.

    I can understand wanting to pay more for something that is handmade by the seller…more than you would pay for a similar mass produced item. But why would you pay significantly more for commercial supplies, reseller items and vintage (especially damaged items)?

    Because the customer base on Etsy seems to have a high percentage of women who just enjoy shopping regardless of price, it might seem like a nobrainer that every online seller should have a shop on Etsy. But I hesitate because people who are that careless with their money are likely to be problem payers. Even if they haven’t got the funds at the moment, it is possible that they will not be able to stop clicking the BUY buttons, at least until the next paycheck or gift from Mom or whatever. From reading the forums it looks like Etsy has a problem with nonpaying buyers.

    Overpaying and not paying could be part of the same issue.

  26. Brenda Braun April 2, 2010 at 2:07 pm #

    boutique
    emporium>>>

    ummmm….I use boutique AND emporium in my shop names (on bigcartel) because they indicate a ‘store’…sound a little more professional then ‘kraftsbyKatiesMommy’…you know what I mean? lol

  27. Life During Wartime April 2, 2010 at 5:11 pm #

    Brenda, nothing wrong with using any of the words in my list for a shop — obviously they mean the same thing as ‘shop’. I don’t think a search bot should be programmed to delete or disable a shop, but only generate a list of links for review. If there are certain words that turn out to be more commonly used by resellers, then I think a human should look at those shops. Who knows, it might be a way for non-violating shops to catch admin’s eye in a positive way and get featured.

    I’ve found some amazing handmade shops by Pouncing for resellers. It would be fun to make a Treasury of undiscovered authentic handmade called FOUND WHILE POUNCING FOR RESELLERS.

  28. blood, sweat and tears April 4, 2010 at 3:00 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=43891526&ref=sr_list_14&&ga_search_query=glass+lockets&ga_search_type=&ga_page=2&order=&includes%5B%5D=tags&includes%5B%5D=title

    i ‘got into it’ on a thread about chains and charms, or pendants, and the big deal was that they put the commercial item on the commercial chain and that meant it was hand assembled therefore handmade. well what if they offer to take it off the chain for a lover price? therefore not handmade anymore. now a supply? my mind is exploding.

  29. Es April 11, 2010 at 6:52 am #

    I have reported this seller a few times.
    what it really comes down to is they are ripping off etsy buyers. I bought one of the exact same watches(not similar, identical, with identical accessories) for $16 total including shipping direct from hong kong on ebay… its really just sad.

    no way etsy will pull them off when they are bringing in cash

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