TZTUDIO

8 Apr

EDIT TO ADD:
She’s removed all the items in the links posted, these are all the current listings:

http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44146964
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44020679
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44399477
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44146964
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44399915

But you can see all the other items in her recently sold items. Disgusting. Guilty much?
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This store has sold tons of mass produced jewelry. Looks legitimate as she does sell her own handmade jewelry, but there is a large selection of mass produced jewelry from a wholesaler in South Korea:

http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44020679
$7.75
http://www.orientaltreasurestrading.com/store/p/2629-Classic-Bridal-Wedding-Drop-Earrings.aspx

http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=43878014
$12.75
http://www.orientaltreasurestrading.com/store/p/2711-Elegant-Party-Chandeliers.aspx

http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44306277
$16
http://www.orientaltreasurestrading.com/store/p/1937-Vine-Motif-Bracelet.aspx

http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44095171
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44146964
$4.80
http://www.orientaltreasurestrading.com/store/p/679-Celebrity-Inspired-Round-Leverback-Earrings.aspx

http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44306303
$20
http://www.orientaltreasurestrading.com/store/p/2957-Pave-Swirl-Earrings.aspx

You can see in this custom order that she’s used the picture from the wholesaler’s site:
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=43335493
$30
http://www.orientaltreasurestrading.com/store/p/2978-4-Victorian-Chandelier-Earrings.aspx

http://www.etsy.com/view_transaction.php?transaction_id=26812255
$6.50
http://www.orientaltreasurestrading.com/store/p/2839-Pave-Chandelier-Earrings.aspx

I have flagged individually and sent a page of links to etsy abuse with no action taken.

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113 Responses to “TZTUDIO”

  1. MadeByM**** April 8, 2010 at 1:44 pm #

    Ooooohhhh, the blatant reselling so ticks me off!!!!!!

  2. Do What? April 8, 2010 at 1:52 pm #

    And they’re even on an Etsy TEAM?????

  3. JohnCocktoasten April 8, 2010 at 3:25 pm #

    How can the team members not see this? This seller is an ebarrassement to her team.

  4. JohnCocktoasten April 8, 2010 at 3:26 pm #

    She has two other stores. I wonder if she makes that crap too.

    How so very sad that this seller has scammed many, many people who think she actually handmade her items.

  5. MemoryLane April 8, 2010 at 4:17 pm #

    Hey but Etsy is loving all the fees so why take them down

  6. Seriously? April 8, 2010 at 5:28 pm #

    She shills between her shops, I reported it a long time ago but I don’t know if the feedback was removed by Etsy or not.

    The Etsy Metal Clay Team is a group of tremendously talented artisans, I’m embarrassed for them that this reseller has penetrated their group.

  7. ohmeohmy April 8, 2010 at 5:41 pm #

    disgusted!

  8. ugh April 8, 2010 at 7:15 pm #

    some of them are gone. Hmm. Either they’ve seen this page or someone at Etsy is working late.

    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA. yeah right.

  9. Life During Wartime April 8, 2010 at 10:39 pm #

    She has 4 jewelry shops, and 3 of them are ‘on vacation’. I wonder if her ‘vacation’ is in the land of ‘Etsy coaching to avoid future flaggings’?

  10. Elle April 9, 2010 at 12:40 am #

    Disgusting. I got to page 5 and I can’t find any handmade in that shop. She is gouging her customers, but since she’s selling and has been around since 08 I would be highly surprised if she’s going anywhere.

    This looks like a catalog picture to me, either that or she’s editing her pictures to add little “sparkle” details. Check it out here.
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=40931013

    I noticed her other shops were on vacation as well. The second jewelry shop looks like reselling as well. I see her sister is on etsy, I wonder if she knows? Or cares? Sigh.

  11. Nicole April 9, 2010 at 2:17 am #

    She’s removed all the items in the links posted, these are all the current listings:

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44146964
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44020679
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44399477
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44146964
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44399915

    But you can see all the other items in her recently sold items. Disgusting.

  12. Is there anything I can do? April 9, 2010 at 4:06 am #

    Hey everyone
    I was one of those people that got taken!!! $45 for a pair of earrings that really cost $5!!! This is ridiculous, is there anything I can do to get my money back? I purchased them about 1 month ago. Whoever did this website, actually has the one’s I bought posted on here. Nothing handmade about it, when she says “Hurry, only 1 left” I bought them, and the next day she had another pair up on etsy!

  13. JohnCocktoasten April 9, 2010 at 4:32 am #

    Contact her and tell tell her you want to return them.

  14. JK April 9, 2010 at 4:45 am #

    If you paid with Paypal and it’s been under 45 days since the purchase, you might try to get your money back through them if she’s reluctant to do a return.

  15. MadeByM**** April 9, 2010 at 5:25 am #

    I agree with JK!

  16. Laura April 9, 2010 at 6:01 am #

    OMG. How awful!

  17. Em April 9, 2010 at 6:11 am #

    Definitely ask to return the earrings. If she says no and there’s nothing else you can do, at least leave some honest feedback, and before she cancels the transaction without you knowing. That seems to be the trend nowadays.

  18. itstinks April 9, 2010 at 6:38 am #

    All of her shops look like resell shops.
    And where was the handmade pieces?
    I couldn’t find any.

  19. Nicole April 9, 2010 at 8:50 am #

    It’s so ironic that she’s a member of a Christian Etsy team.

    I thought there was something in the bible about lying?

  20. JohnCocktoasten April 9, 2010 at 9:05 am #

    If you leave feedback, you should link here. lol

  21. Laura April 9, 2010 at 9:11 am #

    Did anyone contact her team? Etsy Christian team….you have got to be kidding me! This one is a major piece of work.

    So, she’s a metalsmith, works with broken china and also leather. Please….

  22. JohnCocktoasten April 9, 2010 at 9:19 am #

    She might have removed some but she still has a ton of non-handmade. Christian? Wow. She is a liar through and through.

  23. ArtTales April 9, 2010 at 9:20 am #

    I actually contacted her and asked if she made her jewelry.. apparently she doesn’t like to answer convos.

  24. Life During Wartime April 9, 2010 at 10:30 am #

    If she’s pretending to sell only handmade jewelry, it isn’t a huge leap for her to pretend to be Christian. Being untruthful isn’t a problem for this person. Among fradulent antiques/collectibles sellers on Ebay (and elsewhere) some mention of religion is pretty much standard in the sales pitch.

    For the buyer who was deceived by her sales pitch “hurry, only one left”: even if it’s too late to get back your PayPal payment, let PayPal know that she is a fraudulent seller. And let Etsy know as well. Who should she contact at Etsy? Is it support AT Etsy DOT com?

    And please, readers out there in cyberspace, if you see a ‘handmade’ listing on Etsy that advertises ‘only one left’ (and doesn’t explain it’s because the supplies are no longer available) DON’T BUY THE ITEM without checking for the same piece elsewhere on the web. That’s a reseller phrase, something that should be scanned for by Etsy’s SC(r)AM bot…but probably isn’t.

  25. Nicole April 9, 2010 at 10:46 am #

    The issue of ‘only one left’ is actually not an issue with this seller. ALL items with a quantity of one state ‘quick, only 1 available’ when you put it in your cart. Try adding any item listed on Etsy and you will see this same message in your shopping cart.

    The issue with this seller is that she’s fraudulently claiming that her items are handmade when they are blatantly not, they are purchased from a wholesaler of mass produced jewelry.

  26. MadeByM**** April 9, 2010 at 11:35 am #

    Nicole Says:
    April 9, 2010 at 8:50 am
    It’s so ironic that she’s a member of a Christian Etsy team.

    I thought there was something in the bible about lying?

    *****************************************************

    Isaiah 59:2. God cannot be in the presence of sin. A key Christian aspect of the definition of deception is that it is a sin. Deception is no more than a lie. It hides the truth. When we deceive people, God separates Himself from us. He will neither show His face nor listen to us when we are spreading deception. When deception is present there is no justice, nor truth. With deception there is only lies that birth sin (Isaiah 59:2-4, “But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness. None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity”).

  27. Life During Wartime April 9, 2010 at 11:38 am #

    Nichole, thanks for clarifying. I have seen that comment in listings, though. I didn’t check the shop because I am a lazy slob sometimes about copying and pasting when links don’t work.

    I am thinking, though, that the message from the cart processing should be changed or just removed? Because many of the most successful sellers do make the same simply designed items multiple times, and the msg is misleading (not by the seller, but by Etsy using a generic statement that might not apply). Supplies sellers usually have more than one of each item as well. Even some kinds of vintage items aren’t so hard to find that the seller couldn’t have more than one.

  28. MadeByM**** April 9, 2010 at 11:39 am #

    Um, yeah, there’s lots of stuff in the bible about lying and deception!

  29. notvintage April 9, 2010 at 1:04 pm #

    If someone tells you that he / she is a Good Christian, watch your back. I am sure that shop joined the Christians to piggyback on the honest vibes; I sure wouldn’t be fooled.
    If you are a Good Person you don’t have to advertise it.

  30. ArtTales April 9, 2010 at 1:10 pm #

    notvintage: “If you are a Good Person you don’t have to advertise it.”

    Very well said.

  31. JohnCocktoasten April 9, 2010 at 1:21 pm #

    Amen.

  32. Lillysworkshop April 9, 2010 at 1:35 pm #

    I feel so bad for the people who got ripped off. I’ve flagged the shop and all the items that are obvious resells, but I doubt Etsy will do anything about it.

    It’s really a pity for those who put a lot of hard work into their jewelry; some douche like this gets sales that should have gone to them

  33. Nicole April 9, 2010 at 1:55 pm #

    LDW- no problem, I was assuming that the buyer post meant that they saw the shopping cart message but it could be that they were told something else. This has always bothered me about Etsy, because it’s totally misleading to buyers and it’s not really the fault of sellers. Very few people post listings with the full quantity of the items they have in stock, the fees would be enormous if you have lots of items in your store.

  34. Life During Wartime April 9, 2010 at 2:16 pm #

    Ideally, Etsy should allow sellers to customize their cart message, even if it means having shops choose from several pre-written messages. ‘Hurry up and buy me, because there are no more like me at home’ is great for items that are OOAK, for example.

    There are so many areas where Etsy failed to follow up on making their marketplace unique and closer to the founding principles.

  35. notvintage April 9, 2010 at 5:47 pm #

    Another little comment: There is a wedding “team” that is rife with rip-off artists. Seems like brides are prey on Etsy– and the team leader doesn’t give a shit because I emailed her about it and her response was– You guessed it– FLAG IT if you don’t like it.
    Teams Shmeams.

  36. L April 9, 2010 at 6:53 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/AimiBoutique

    Reseller- report report report

    She even admitted she resells to a room of people, stating she saw other people doing it. when she was told it broke TOS, she bolted.

  37. detroit April 9, 2010 at 7:15 pm #

    Ahhhh….the ‘bridal’ industry. Disgusting through and through.

    BRIDES!!!! Stop the insane consumerism! Stop buying SH*T! Even if you’re not taken advantage of, which is SOoooo easy (see this post), do you really want to celebrate your marital union before god with a materialistic festival of acetate tulle and toxic, petrochemical artificial frippery and false jewels??

  38. albatross April 9, 2010 at 7:20 pm #

    what i never understood about brides is how they LOVE the really expensive stuff. when other shops on etsy may have something really similar or even cuter for a lot cheaper. much like our friend, portobello. looked at her shop recently? seems like she’s taking her mass produced items that were called out a while ago and adding another component to them. cool!

  39. Laura April 10, 2010 at 1:24 am #

    This makes me a bit sad: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=42118946

    Not sure how I feel about reselling a fake chanel as vintage, even though she’s very clear it is a fake. This is a fav seller of mine. Apparently she was taken by vintagetreasures. I feel badly for her…

  40. Laura April 10, 2010 at 3:34 am #

    But reselling it for over $700? Not so sure about that one!

  41. RocksInMySocks April 10, 2010 at 6:14 am #

    Regardless of whether the Chanel bag is fake, is it REALLY vintage? If not, it’s not supposed to be listed. However, it is a really clever way of calling out the original seller of the bag and letting people know she’s a scam artist.

  42. RocksInMySocks April 10, 2010 at 6:17 am #

    Does TZTUDIO really expect us to believe she’s making these earrings? She needs to remove ALL of the non-handmade items, not just a few of them. Of course, then her store would probably be empty.

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44146964

    I call bullshit.

  43. wahwah April 10, 2010 at 8:39 am #

    Does she sell brass balls or does she keep those to herself?

  44. Actually April 10, 2010 at 9:52 am #

    RocksinMySocks – I am a jewelry designer and I can buy those findings at my local bead store and assemble them together, so she may very well be making them. The stone in the center comes in many different colors and the setting can come plain or can come with rhinestones around them, different colors such as brass or copper, etc. Then all she has to do is glue the the stone into the setting and then glue the earring backs onto the back of the setting. It appears that most of the pieces are Swarovski crsytal pieces that can be obtained online or at jewelry/bead stores. Several of the rhinestone pieces I see I know I can purchase at local bead stores as well.

  45. Nicole April 10, 2010 at 9:57 am #

    Actually- did you look at the links in the initial post?

    Since she’s bought all the other items from the wholesaler, it’s highly unlikely she’s making these earrings This is the link, with all the colors she offers, at the wholesale site:

    http://www.orientaltreasurestrading.com/store/p/679-Celebrity-Inspired-Round-Leverback-Earrings.aspx

    It’s been stated that there are pieces in her store that she makes. She clearly does not make the pieces IDENTICAL to the ones on the wholesale site. It’s yet another case of a legitimate seller succumbing to greed and laziness.

  46. Cat Power April 10, 2010 at 10:43 am #

    I sincerely wish I had the “brass ones” to do what so many of these shops do, but I don’t think I could look at myself in the mirror if I did.

    My shop has been dead in the water for months, and I’m letting most of my listings expire due to poor exposure and views. My bank account would love the influx of new funds, but at this point I don’t even have the money to buy the wholesale stuff to sell. Really is a vicious circle.

  47. sayWHAT? April 10, 2010 at 11:39 am #

    nonvintage: would you mind sharing the name of the wedding ‘team’ to which you referred?

    I’m a soon-to-be-bride who would love to support authentic etsy artists, but am also so very fearful of falling into the craptastic bridal traps that await. I’ve tried and given up on a few occasions to search for wedding related items on etsy: I guess I’m just too cynical to trust any of them at this point. Which is sad, really, since I’m sure there are some truly unique and wonderful artists just hoping for me to find them.

  48. forum rubbernecker April 10, 2010 at 12:24 pm #

    WTF, that’s jonquiljuice? I was intrigued by her leather jewelry, but now I am suspicious of that too.

  49. Life During Wartime April 10, 2010 at 12:31 pm #

    Is Etsy really a major web destination for shoppers seeking art and unique handmade items these days?

    For every shop called out here, I’ve seen dozens of questionable ‘handmade’ shops opening every day.

    Supply shops are still selling complete stand alone items that were not made to be used in a craft.

    Vintage is a disaster — Garagetsy blog give some good examples of the problem, but she would have to list hundreds of items per day to even scratch the surface.

    And there are thousands of shops that seem (from their oldest sold items) to have started out selling only legitimate items, but then expanded to offer junk that the new breed of Etsy shopper wants to buy. And Etsy seems to allow shops that have some legitimate items to sell whatever they wish, unchallenged.

    Even if you come to Etsy specifically to find something handmade by the shop or authentic vintage, tag abuse makes either browsing or searching difficult. You need to have amazing patience AND a cynical sense of humor to get thru all the crap you will unintentionally see.

    It’s a wonder any handmade shops that didn’t build a large customer base years ago are making any sales at all.

    I don’t think Etsy’s investors want these problems fixed. I think they want growth no matter what form it takes. What gets me is all the new Etsy clone venues which are building in all of Etsy’s problems. If I decided I wanted to sell handmade right now I would have to go with building my own web store. Because Etsy has polluted the marketplace with their lack of quality standards (not the same as jurying), and it will take years to re-establish a valid meaning for ‘handmade’ and ‘vintage’ to the general public.

  50. Angel April 10, 2010 at 2:33 pm #

    Etsy is the new Canal St.

  51. Laura April 10, 2010 at 3:15 pm #

    Life During Wartime, I have to say I curious who you are. ) I always like your posts!

    Rocks- I agree. I thought it was a very clever way to call out the seller! It’s not vintage, as it’s a new fake. Right? That’s what I gleaned from the listing.

  52. Laura April 10, 2010 at 3:16 pm #

    am curious. I have a million typos. This is the first time I sat down since 5am. Laura = tired.

  53. L April 10, 2010 at 3:58 pm #

    I dunno. I sell all handmade items. Everything I make starts as fabric, thread and/or trim. I have been pulling decent sales for the two months I have been open- about 1 every two days average. I don’t under price my items, and sales even seem to be picking up for me this past week.

    Sure, there are still PLENTY of resellers, and they piss me off as much as the next legit seller, but its not impossible for new shops to open and do well. I don’t even really advertise. I use twitter a little bit, and flickr and kaboodle. But I was doing pretty decent even before I started using the last two. I dont renew ever, either. Big waste. I try to list a new item every other day when possible to keep up in the search, and I drop in chat or the forums from time to time.

    One thing, however, is that I feel bad for anyone selling jewelry. Now if I were in that boat, I’d be screwed. I can see how new legit jewelry sellers would have trouble getting anywhere.

  54. Andrea April 10, 2010 at 4:07 pm #

    notvintage, didn’t you (LV) email the team leader and complain that someone selling vintage wedding dresses was tagging handmade? Please be specific about the rip offs and thieves, instead of smearing the whole team and category.

  55. JohnCocktoasten April 10, 2010 at 4:14 pm #

    You know what? If I was the member of a team, I would be furious about this. And I think it reflects on the team as a whole.

  56. detroit April 10, 2010 at 4:25 pm #

    LOL @ “Etsy is the new Canal Street.”

    In my area, Etsy would be the new “Gibraltar Trade Center”. Cell phones, new & used videos, bridal (of course), “antiques” and fortune tellers. All Etsy needs now is a gun and knife department(!), and carpet remnant wholesale and they’ll compete fully with the tackiest of midwest flea markets!

  57. notvintage April 10, 2010 at 4:32 pm #

    sayWHAT? Says:
    April 10, 2010 at 11:39 am

    nonvintage: would you mind sharing the name of the wedding ‘team’ to which you referred?
    I wish I could remember. Best way to eliminate:
    Do a search under ‘handmade’ for ‘vintage wedding’. The idiots will advertise their team.

    Smear, shmear. If you belong to a team, take a peek at the other members. If they don’t represent themselves to your standard, you should not join the team. You DEF should not be a “team leader”.

    The wedding stuff was presented as vintage AND handmade, and in those cases was neither. I say, if you want to spend your money DIG A LITTLE DEEPER.
    If you feel you need to defend yourself, you probably do.

  58. notvintage April 10, 2010 at 4:35 pm #

    And Andrea, thanks for the LOV, for whatever reason……. I do think it is important to do your homework before giving anybody any of your hard won $$

  59. ohmeohmy April 10, 2010 at 6:09 pm #

    tztudio is now empty, her jonquil shop has an “uh oh” and her silver shop is on vacation—SATISFYING

  60. Nicole April 10, 2010 at 11:58 pm #

    This is exactly what happened to Portobello after she was exposed, her listings were all pulled, and shop closed for about 5 days. She reopened with the mass produced items removed. This is why sellers do this, there seem to be NO consequences or penalties on Etsy’s part. So you can commit fraud and rip people off, get found out, and then have your wrist slapped.

    There was an earlier comment about shilling by TZTUDIO, I’m guessing it was with the Jonquil Juice store that she just closed. She clearly knows what she’s doing. As she seems to be pretty keen on opening stores, it wouldn’t surprise me if she opened a new store to put all this behind her.

  61. ohlordy April 11, 2010 at 3:14 am #

    indiepixie was in the forums asking why some items in her shop were deactivated due to her reselling, or as she seems to think, for mistagging.

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6485871

    then she says her whole shop had been deactivated. most likely due to her reselling.

    hooray right?

    nope. rob white swiftly swooped in, and told her he can see what etsy “could do for her.” and sure enough, her shop is up and running again with all her reseller merch.

    ARGH! c’mon etsy!!!!

  62. WTFISAPDF April 11, 2010 at 4:55 am #

    Ohlordy! That’s about as low as Etsy can get. Jlo dresses with stock photos? And she was allowed to reopen??

    Is it any wonder why sellers are up in arms over no sales and views? Who the fuck wants to shop there when you have no clue anymore what you’re buying.

    It is appalling that she was allowed to open back up with all her reseller crap. It’s sick, it really is.

  63. WTFISAPDF April 11, 2010 at 5:02 am #

    Oh thanks Rob. We love it when resellers get closed and reopened.

    Here’s her black enamel owl ring on a wholesale site

    http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/287524283/Animal_finger_ring_with_black_enamel.html

    And here’s the one in her shop

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=43654675

  64. JohnCocktoasten April 11, 2010 at 5:05 am #

    Oh FFS. Does one hand not know what the other is doing??

  65. notvintage April 11, 2010 at 5:14 am #

    Oh, she got so much sympathy from the juniors in the sandbox. RovWhite will do ANYTHING to look like a good guy and keep the lid on.
    He doesn’t know any more about handmade or vintage than do the rest of the ignoramouses that Etsy hires.

  66. JajieBo April 11, 2010 at 5:56 am #

    Holy hell, big props to RobWhite for openly showing his allegiance to resellers. All hail the mighty dollar! Jackasses.

  67. WTFISAPDF April 11, 2010 at 6:15 am #

    This one really deserves a call out of its own. For Christ sake, she was closed down and reopened despite being a reseller.

    Forum whining does work, must be.

    This just did it for me. I am so never shopping on Etsy again.

  68. ohlordy April 11, 2010 at 6:41 am #

    let us not forget, this was the same seller featured in the etsy finds a few weeks ago.

    it’s mind boggling!

  69. WTFISAPDF April 11, 2010 at 6:49 am #

    WHHHHHHHHHHHHAT? She was featured in Etsy finds????

  70. ohlordy April 11, 2010 at 7:17 am #

    yeah, can you believe it? she was already called out here once. i’m sure plenty of people flagged her, and that’s why her items were removed. to be perfectly honest, i’m surprised they even shut her down the first time. considering etsys track record.

    https://etsycallout.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/indiepixie/

  71. WTFISAPDF April 11, 2010 at 7:22 am #

    She’s still selling the dresses from Dizzy Darling with the same DD stock photos.

  72. Laura April 11, 2010 at 8:10 am #

    OMG! They reopened her store?

    Here’s another mess: http://www.etsy.com/shop/wangbin

  73. WTFISAPDF April 11, 2010 at 8:52 am #

    Someone started a thread about Indiepixie and got pounced by the reseller defenders (Artisian, Laurie Ryan, etc…).

    I convo’d the OP and she wrote me that she had emailed one of the wholesalers in Indie’s shop about the stock photos and got an email back that they have so many clients at Etsy and Ebay and they don’t like them to use their photos but because they drop ship, they don’t have the shit there to photograph.

    Then she was told that if she wanted to join the “many successful” Ebay and Etsy sellers to provide a tax ID and shop username.

    Why would anyone defend these jerks?? It’s not like ?indiepixie hasn’t been around the block a few times.

  74. notvintage April 11, 2010 at 9:23 am #

    So much for the Etsy “Content Team”. How anyone can respect the decisions that group makes is so beyond me that words fail.

  75. WTFISAPDF April 11, 2010 at 9:31 am #

    Indie must be reading this blog because the ring and the earrings are gone.

    I’ll post more of the links to her wholesalers later.

  76. notvintage April 11, 2010 at 10:20 am #

    Here’s a wedding dress shop to avoid:
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=36630037

  77. Whisperia April 11, 2010 at 11:06 am #

    @Detroit: “In my area, Etsy would be the new “Gibraltar Trade Center”. Cell phones, new & used videos, bridal (of course), “antiques” and fortune tellers. All Etsy needs now is a gun and knife department(!), and carpet remnant wholesale and they’ll compete fully with the tackiest of midwest flea markets!”

    Aww, you’re making me nostalgic for home. I’m from Windsor and the Gibraltar Trade Center is indeed the tackiest place on earth. The second tackiest place on earth, of course being Bronner’s in Frankenmuth.

    But I digress. I don’t see mention of it on the blog anywhere, but this is an obvious reseller… http://www.etsy.com/shop/RetroSkor I was easily able to find items for sale on eBay and at Alibaba.

  78. Life During Wartime April 11, 2010 at 11:26 am #

    OMG about indiepixie. If ever there was an obvious no question reseller shop, that is one for sure!

    I think a reseller is only a reseller to Etsy if they get flagged massively before they make more than a handful of sales.

    Otherwise, they are ‘successful businesses’ and welcome to sell whatever they please, regardless of the TOU.

    I guess calling out indiepixie in the forums didn’t work the way it did for BroochKing because of the large number of drop shipped Asian garments on Etsy…which are very popular with Etsy’s ‘handmade’ buyers, and generate lots of cash for Etsy.

    The new rules on Etsy, after being SC(r)AMed by Project HeyMichelle:

    — Drop shipping items is okay.
    — You can list brand name merchandise as handmade, if you can demonstrate you’ll make enough sales to make it worth Etsy’s while dealing with the flags and callout threads in the forums. (I wonder if Dizzy Darling, Yoco, and other brands send cartons of their garments to Etsy HQ for the staff, so they can be inspected for their handmade-ness?)
    — You can’t list reseller merchandise in the vintage category.
    — You can list 90s (and newer) items in Vintage, though, no problem. As long as you’re selling found items, and not a rep for a line of merchandise. Then you sell as handmade.

    Someone should update the Etsy TOU with the rules as they are enforced now. With links to closed forum posts, violations in Etsy features, and blog posts like ECO, citing specific shops to illustrate the changes. That way, any seller who has the stomach for it can cash in.

  79. WTFISAPDF April 11, 2010 at 12:06 pm #

    Here’s a couple more from Indiepixie

    Here’s a dress in Indiepixie’s shop
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?ref=vl_other_1&listing_id=43653829

    Here’s a retailer selling Dizzy Darling
    http://www.saturdayscloset.com/dizzy-darling-chiffon-dress.html

    She has these tagged vintage
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=41732895

    Find them here:

    http://www.lilmisssparklepants.com/page22.htm

    I had the link to the exact earrings with the record and the sunglasses, but I lost it… So off to find it, along with the rest of the shit in her shop.

  80. WTFISAPDF April 11, 2010 at 12:19 pm #

    I found these earrings at a China wholesale website but my virus scan knocked me off with a message that the site was attempting to send a threat to my computer.

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=43653964

  81. WTFISAPDF April 11, 2010 at 12:37 pm #

    Indiepixie was closed down April 6, 2010 and on that same day “Indiepixies” opened a shop, which is empty.

    Could it be one in the same, preparing just in case Etsy kept her closed down?

  82. Life During Wartime April 11, 2010 at 1:31 pm #

    WTFISAPDF, what about those owl earrings does she supposedly handmake for 12 bucks?

    Here they are in the shop of a relatively new reseller for only 4 smackers
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44470149
    Wow, these reseller shops hit the ground running and start making sales right away! What an inspiration!

    I just noticed that indiepixie is a massive category abuser. Does she not know that earrings are Jewelry and headbands are Accessories? So nice of Etsy to give indiepixie personal attention and help her stay open with all her violations.

  83. WTFISAPDF April 11, 2010 at 2:06 pm #

    LDW- I don’t know what to make of this. Two different shops selling the same exact earrings, using the same photo prop.

    But neither would be resellers in Etsy eyes.

  84. Brian April 11, 2010 at 2:15 pm #

    A quick look on Alibaba (dot) com, and I found the wholesale earrings. I just searched for “owl earrings” and they are the 16th down from the top—“diamond” earring, they’re calling these.

  85. Brian April 11, 2010 at 2:28 pm #

    Also on alibaba, I searched for “crown pearl earring” and yep, there are AimiBoutique’s “kawaii crown earrings” — and even using the wholesale picture in her etsy shop. Interesting to note that these cost about 20 cents each wholesale. I’ll send the wholesale link to etsy, but will they care?

  86. Life During Wartime April 11, 2010 at 2:34 pm #

    I see indiepixie has been busy today. When I was looking at the owl earrings, I noticed the Dizzy Darling dresses are gone. It looks like she got the royal hands-on Etsy coaching treatment.

    Yeah, that is odd WTFISAPDF, two shops using the same prop. And one is in the UK and the other in Cali. And indiepixie’s are made with Swarovski crystals, but the aimiboutique’s version are diamonds — what a deal!

    Aimiboutique is also a tag abuser.

  87. L April 11, 2010 at 2:46 pm #

    I just sent a message to etsy admin about her use of the chat rooms too. She keeps setting up a chat room trying to give away items from her shop and linking her blog, which clearly shows and talks about things that only a reseller would have. A bunch of chatters a few nights ago had fun retitling her chat different variations of RESELLER etc. 😀

    Quite fun. Shes actually very rude, and admits that she cares not that she is a reseller “because everyone is doing it”

    Yah, that’s just the moral and thought we want about etsy.

    *sigh*

  88. L April 11, 2010 at 2:49 pm #

    Aimi’s twitter: http://twitter.com/AimiBoutiqueLuv

    Aimi Boutique always bring the best from Japan and Korean Accessories, Clothes, Shoes and more 🙂 for more info please visit http://www.aimi-boutique.blogspot.com

    Does it get more clear?

  89. WTFISAPDF April 11, 2010 at 2:52 pm #

    Indiepixie has this listing marked “vintage”
    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=41732895

    You can find these at various shops around the internet, including lilmisssparklepants.

    She’s a fake, for sure.

  90. notvintage April 11, 2010 at 3:11 pm #

    “The lunatics are in charge of the insane asylum” would be what my momma would have said.

  91. WTFISAPDF April 11, 2010 at 5:09 pm #

    I’ve only had a buying account on Etsy and I made many friends there as I bought from some really great sellers.

    Unfortunately, I can no longer support an environment filled with resellers and non-vintage junk. I have written to request my account be closed.

    While I love supporting the handmade movement, I can’t support a company that doesn’t support its own handmade and vintage sellers.

    The forums are filled with sellers screaming about no views and no sales. There are no views and no sales because Etsy has become too widely known as just another Ebay. The sellers can blame search engines and Google all they want. It’s the resellers and junk sellers that are bringing it to a demise.

    Etsy should release the stats on the number of people closing their accounts each month. That would be telling, for sure.

  92. JohnCocktoasten April 11, 2010 at 5:32 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/wallartlover

  93. detroit April 11, 2010 at 5:37 pm #

    Whisperia – Ah Windsor. I need to get there more often. I have such a love/hate relationship with this area!

    And – yep WTF. I was a buyer too. Etsy used to have cool, unique, hell, even ugly handmade items. I used to be able to unvaryingly find such interesting stuff. Now, it’s all ebay-ish. Fake brand names. Dollar store tacky crap. Gotten so I don’t even trust stuff that may truly be legit.

    Bah!

  94. MadeByM**** April 11, 2010 at 6:28 pm #

    Too bad there wasn’t a way to get a big chunk of Etsy sellers to do a 3 day “walk-out” and deactivate all their items all at once to protest the resellers and all the other crap that’s been going on over there. Get them where it hurts the most……the wallet!

  95. You;'ve Got to be Kidding Me April 11, 2010 at 9:51 pm #

    I’m so disgusted because Etsy never truly defined handmade in the first place. Anything hand altered or hand embellished is allowed. So some poor schmuck goes into this one shop I just saw that sells everything from mass produced baby clothes to shopping totes, and not the ones made out of canvas, the ones that have a metal frame and fold up. And they personally embroider them. (by machine) and don’t disclose that that is all they do to their ‘handmade’ items, so people think they actually are handmade. Why shouldn’t resellers set up shops? simply embroidering a personalization on something doesn’t really make them less of a reseller and yet, they are allowed.

    Like I said, I’m j ust totally disgusted with Etsy. They’ll never get a handle on this problem because too many people are able to slide under the line ‘legally’.

  96. Life During Wartime April 11, 2010 at 10:45 pm #

    Things got out of hand when Etsy turned its back on setting standards for professionalism on the site. This happened years ago, in all areas. From teams, to features in the Dorque, to the stupid trend chasing.

    I don’t see a problem with embellished, altered, assembled, etc etc items on the site…provided sellers state precisely what is handmade by them on every item. Wasn’t that supposed to be a rule, way back when?

  97. WTFISAPDF April 12, 2010 at 4:40 am #

    I see Indiepixie has more of her reseller crap removed. I wonder if Etsy is on the ball or if Indie is reading this blog and removing them herself. She seems to remove the crap that’s been called out here.

  98. Crazy Cat Lady April 12, 2010 at 5:55 am #

    So, for people no longer buying handmade on etsy…where are you going? This honest etsy seller who’s sales have been in the toilet for a long time wants to know. I’ve been on artfire and that’s way worse than etsy, even when I was promoting it! Have you tried zibbet, 1K markets, etc?

    And am I the only one who read “wallartlover” as “WALMARTlover”? I wonder if that was intentional.

  99. MadeByM**** April 12, 2010 at 6:10 am #

    Yeah, Crazy Cat Lady, I’d like to know, too!

  100. notvintage April 12, 2010 at 6:19 am #

    Set up your own website, or if not that then your own blog and direct it to wherever you decide is the best place for your shopping cart.
    If you are not selling directly from your own site or blog, you are breaking no Etsy TOU and can mention it in your Etsy shop or profile.
    Then, you have to put the time and effort into making your site visible either by getting it uploaded into search engines or getting it linked to other blogs or sites.
    I recommend this activity for the depths of winter when you are snowed in– a note of levity, but I am dead serious.

    Use Etsy within their convoluted TOU because they are using YOU.

  101. WTFISAPDF April 12, 2010 at 6:59 am #

    A lot of my favorite shops have been using Big Cartel and I’ve followed them there. Etsy has lost some popular shops that were really driving traffic to the site. With them gone, I think they took a lot of buyers elsewhere.

    I’ve been shopping locally more. My area had a couple really nice handmade art and craft shops open, I think with stimulus money, and they are really booming. I went to one of them Saturday and it was mobbed. I had to wait in a long line to check out and I kept getting bumped into and elbowed, it was that crowded.

  102. MadeByM**** April 12, 2010 at 7:31 am #

    I have my own blog and I did start my own website at the beginning of the year…….now, I just have to figure out how to get traffic there! At least it’s my OWN fault if I don’t make sales………but it’s not quite as fun bitching about yourself as it is about Etsy! LOL!

  103. stuiks April 12, 2010 at 9:46 am #

    hello,
    don’t know where to send it… but right now on fp is this http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=38220763&ref=fp_feat_3
    ok all items in shop are tagged “art, reproduction, digital” when it’s wood work.
    then 4 sales, of which something which is “to test the shop”
    then 3 feedback – which all come from people who have registered the same day…

    which leads to this profile http://www.etsy.com/shop/matoby88
    who has 10 “sales” to buyers registered on the same day, for things which are hardly handmade or vintage.

    I smell a big rat…

  104. Life During Wartime April 12, 2010 at 11:29 am #

    I still buy on Etsy. I feel confident that I can tell true handmade or vintage from not, for the items that interest me. And I know that Etsy takes a relatively small percentage of fees from the sale so most of the money is going to the shop owner. Etsy has a lot of variety, and the site is much faster to navigate than the little guys.

    The Etsy clone sites all seem to have some of the same problems as the original — to be expected because they all have sellers in common with Etsy. Most of them have a ‘vintage’ category (why, why, why? when there are plenty of specialized venues for vintage shops) which has turned out to be a huge joke full of altered/vandalized older items or brand new things made in what the seller believes is a vintage style. And resellers can be found on the smaller sites as well. The only thing the other sites have going for them is NOT having the vibe of being THE LIFE STYLE OF ELLY MAY CLAMPETT, As Interpreted By Hipsters.

    The problem is not confined to Etsy, unfortunately. And the problem is not that ‘Etsy is evil’. The problem is that Etsy did not deal with sellers breaking its rules in a professional manner. Allowing violators to operate freely tilted Etsy’s customer base from discriminating shoppers to shopaholic girls who are willing to overpay for common merchandise to prove they can afford to do this –actually, the ticket to Etsy’s success as a site.

    I see the ‘weather report’ from last month is out. I wonder how the numbers would look if you could remove the data from sales made by resellers and other violation shops?

  105. Crazy Cat Lady April 12, 2010 at 11:30 am #

    I’ve had a website for about…2 years now. I have no clue how to use it. My IT DH set it up, but whenever I ask him how to use it we get into fights, sigh. He’s not the patient teacher and computer crap is really confusing to me (that’s why I went with etsy to begin with instead of starting with my own site) so I have to ask a lot of questions, sometimes more than once (oh noes! committing the mortal sin 0_o)

    One thing (among many) that pisses me off about etsy is that they expect us to know SEO and google promoting crap. I understand promoting one’s shop through social media, friends, facebook, etc. But when I list something on ebay I don’t have to then check google to see if it’s lost in cyberspace. I know I can trust ebay to get it out there.

    /rant

  106. detroit April 12, 2010 at 11:54 am #

    LDW – “The lifestyle of Ellie May Clampett as interpreted by hipsters.”

    That’s hilarious. And I’m not even sure what you mean. But it made me laugh anyway.

    I agree with someone above. I’ve been doing my shopping at local craft markets. Ya know – supporting people locally in my economically depressed area. And like the person above, despite the crap economy, I was FLOORED when I went to the local potters market (which – you have to meet standards to vend at), was SLAMMED! It was almost too crowded. Way more than in years past. I was happy to see that.

    Seems like a lot of shoppers have the same idea as me. Is it possible for some of you with slumping Etsy sales to do a little bit of the craft show circuit in your area? To supplement / promote Etsy? You could give out cards with your Etsy address to customers at the craft show.

  107. itstinks April 12, 2010 at 12:51 pm #

    Detroit, I’ve done that for years. I make way more per year doing just 2 local craft shows than I do on etsy ALL YEAR. I mainly think of my etsy shop as an online catalog for my customers to check out my latest merchandise.

    But even with local craft shows where the merchandise is SUPPOSE to be all handmade – the resellers still sneak in. There is a lady who has been selling $3 earrings for as long as I’ve been involved with it. They look like they came from the Dollar Store – really ugly and cheap looking. But she has tons on customers in front of her booth.

    I’m pretty sure she buys them at market for $1 and resells for $3.

    So, no matter where you are, you have show promoters who don’t know the difference between handmade and resell junk.

  108. itstinks April 12, 2010 at 12:53 pm #

    Also, I no longer “promote” etsy. I promote my store as my web address and just refer to etsy as an e-commerce site. I stopped telling people it was a place to “buy handmade” a long time ago.

  109. Life During Wartime April 12, 2010 at 1:43 pm #

    Detroit, Etsy promotes what I view as the image of Elly May in its features:

    — Boobs and bum shots (cleavage and up-skirts), and generally situation inappropriate female attire as a joke (swimwear, evening wear, costumes, or the trashtastic look). Too bad that Elly May as she was portrayed would not fit into most of the handmade clothing on Etsy!

    — Critters everywhere to the point of absurdity. Also taxidermy humor in the billiard/dining room!

    — Granny is always cooking up a batch of handmade soap!

    — Living in a early 60s modern environment, but dragging in the use of ‘country primitives’ in a clueless way by characters who supposedly believe them to be superior to well crafted modern conveniences of the time. Can be understood in the teevee show as a satire of the outdoors in/indoors out fad of the time, which is currently being revived. Also a damn good predictor of the hippies.

    — An attitude of the Clampetts generally that the value of their unearned money is meaningless to them.

    Most of the shops on Etsy do not fit the Elly May model, but this is what I see on the FP and in the Dorque. I am thinking of doing a blog called Etsy May!

  110. notvintage April 12, 2010 at 3:21 pm #

    Let’s go take a swim in the See-ment Pond!

  111. actual jewelry designer April 14, 2010 at 6:08 am #

    THANK YOU for posting this–I’ve seen her work on Etsy for ages and wondered about it, but after seeing a link to the wholesale wedding jewelry website you posted awhile back, I decided to investigate. Sure enough, found 2 things from the catalogue in her shop. Flagged her. I can’t believe she’s been keeping up this ruse so long!

  112. Angel April 14, 2010 at 9:11 am #

    Much like the recent commenters, Etsy isn’t my first stop. For vintage buys, I head to Ruby Lane (I won’t be caught dead buying vintage on Etsy anymore, and it has nothing to do with the actual vintage sellers). I buy my handmade locally at shows or markets, or through websites (usually the artists own).

    Is choosing not to buy from the Etsy website hurting more than the people who run the site? Yes. But no one, and I mean no one, can claim a lack of knowledge as to the shenanigans of the company, and that is the very real cost of doing business with them.

    I use Etsy as a search tool now. I find what I want and then try and find the sellers on other websites. And if I can’t readily discern that the item is handmade, I remove it from my search.

    I earlier called Etsy the new Canal Street. I would like to retract that. Because I’m pretty sure that Etsy is the new Wal-Mart.

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