magicqueen, bathroman, ninexmuse, LittleOrangeSeed, morikaty

12 Apr

http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44234747
can be found here – http://loveaccessories.me/item_6/Retro-vintage-funky-antique-Silver-owl-pendant-necklace..htm

as can this –
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44441664
here – http://loveaccessories.me/item_7/Geeky-glasses-necklace.htm

And this necklace – http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44263292
is EVERYWHERE. Not just here – http://www.wholesale-dress.net/alloy-ancient-camera-necklace-black-g1107059.html
but here – http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44513806
here – http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44502652
here – http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44204341
here – http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44095987
and here – http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=44067883

As a matter of fact, just about all items found under a search for “camera necklace” were obvious resells – different flavors of cheap pendants on chains.

This is really getting ridiculous – Etsy needs to know that we won’t shop there, and we’re spreading the news that they are letting resellers take over so others won’t continue to give them money either. They are digging themselves into a hole.

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74 Responses to “magicqueen, bathroman, ninexmuse, LittleOrangeSeed, morikaty”

  1. Life During Wartime April 12, 2010 at 6:32 pm #

    I, too, think these are all resellers. But the shops that take their own photos could claim that they buy the camera charm and the chain separately and assemble the necklaces. Even the shops using catalog photos can claim this. Because it is likely the camera charms are sold separately.

    What cracks me up is how Etsy put ninexmuse on the FP a handful of times this year, so far. And she sells pretty much the same type of thing as the other shops called out here, and most of these shops have very similar photos. Ninexmuse says she works in the HK clothing industry…hmmm. I wonder if Etsy admins call upon her business expertise when investigating resellers?

  2. notvintage April 12, 2010 at 6:40 pm #

    Gertrude STein could have been describing the Etsy content team when stating, “There is no there there.”

  3. Jen April 12, 2010 at 7:07 pm #

    @Life During Wartime – they can claim whatever they want, but honestly, if everything in their shop is searchable through wholesalers they can’t be honest. Etsy has to know this. It’s called discretion.

    Wonder what’s up with this shop: http://www.etsy.com/shop/spunshop

  4. ugh April 12, 2010 at 7:29 pm #

    I am so sick of this bullshit. Really, I am. Shops & items are flagged over & over & they continue to operate as is. ILOVEYOYO is still tagging some of their items with 100+ words, despite the so-called content team being notified. What the fuck are the waiting for?

    Does everyone want to know why sales are in the toilet? Aside from the immense google fuck up etsy pulled? It’s because the shit resellers are making sales.

    Not to mention the Alchemy requests from buyers & sellers who steal items from other peoples shops as “inspiration”, and other shops are willing to do cheaper, therefore TAKING sales away from the original designers.

    Also, I would love to see the March report without resellers, and all the copyright infringement. Then lets see how much money Etsy is making legitimately.

    Etsy is a mess, they are never going to fix any of the problems they have since they don’t consider them problems. They just placate sellers with their pat “be nice” thread closings, and “oh here’s a new toy for you to bitch/fawn at us over” while they mess around choosing more mustaches & owls for the front page. I am so disappointed in this site, I can’t even believe it.

  5. Etsy Person April 12, 2010 at 8:30 pm #

    And I am sick of seeing the same drop shaped earrings with wrapped wire on the front page. Don’t they know there are other styles in this world or should we all wear the same thing?

  6. Em April 12, 2010 at 8:34 pm #

    I’m just gonna say… I feel REALLY bad for anyone who has and will have Etsy as their #1 source of income. Right now, that includes me, but it’s only temporary until I can get a “real” job. I can’t imagine weathering all this crap and staying loyal to it all.

  7. Christine April 12, 2010 at 9:16 pm #

    In a moment of weakness last week I ALMOST started to make charm on a chain necklaces for my Etsy shop. But I stopped because I can do better than that (even if I don’t get sales). I don’t know if this type of listing will ever go away but I wish buyers would stop spending their hard earned money on these things.

  8. Stephica April 12, 2010 at 10:26 pm #

    Members of the Etsy in club aren’t happy about this treasury titled “Featured on the front page over 150 times!!!”:

    http://www.etsy.com/treasury_list.php?room_id=125561

    Apparently it is “bitter” and “low” to make a treasury with the same people in it who are in about 50 other treasuries right now. Guess they don’t like the title.

  9. Amused April 12, 2010 at 11:00 pm #

    ROFLMAO.

  10. Life During Wartime April 12, 2010 at 11:41 pm #

    Stephica, that is actually a cute treasury collection. There are colors in the photos other than brown, black, white, gray and blue.

    Since when is it a low blow for someone to tell you that you’re popular? Are we in middle school or what?

  11. UhhWha April 13, 2010 at 3:25 am #

    When etsy is run by a bunch of people that act like they are in middle school.. Yes

    The popularity contests drive the crap that goes on everyday.

    Will etsy ever get a clue and hire people to work and not see who can make a fool out of the company first on Twitter. Maybe then we won’t have to flag a shop for a year and a half before it gets closed.

  12. wahwah April 13, 2010 at 3:38 am #

    Maybe we really all have to either become resellers or move to Brooklyn, because really that’s the only way Etsy will be on our sides.

  13. Lori April 13, 2010 at 4:00 am #

    I love the comment on that Treasury about how much hard work it took to get tho the front page!

  14. Dee April 13, 2010 at 4:18 am #

    You could make the same list out of many of the products on etsy.

    Is there a list of the Etsy in club somewhere?

    Have any of you heard of this blog or group? http://www.etsytsquad.blogspot.com

  15. JohnCocktoasten April 13, 2010 at 4:19 am #

    Stephica, roflmao!!!!!! Great job!

  16. ugh April 13, 2010 at 4:50 am #

    Oh that blog is for invited people only. Kind of like the front page.

  17. WTFISAPDF April 13, 2010 at 5:03 am #

    Great treasury! It amazes me how many times the mother/daughter team of Twolefthands and Humblebea make the voter too.

    It amazes me more that with the number of sellers on Etsy that they can’t seem to find new shops to feature. It’s always the same ole, same ole…. and sellers wonder why their shops are slow.

  18. Crazy Cat Lady April 13, 2010 at 5:05 am #

    OMG I just tweeted that treasury. It’s great. Kind of reminds me of FP bingo! LOL

    Yes, etsy is a weird place. It’s okay to BE on the FP 150 times, but it’s not okay to mention that someone’s been on the FP 150 times.

  19. ugh April 13, 2010 at 5:15 am #

    UGh. speaking of people who have been on the FP countless times, there’s a few on there right now.

    WTF. CHOOSE A DAMN TREASURY WITH NEW PEOPLE.

    Etsy is overflowing with thousands of sellers, and new ones everyday. IT CANNOT be hard to find treasuries with people who haven’t been on the FP.

    And seriously, if people are in 20-30 treasuries at one time, maybe there should be a cap on how many times for that too.

    What it’ll be like when there is no cap on how many treasuries you can make? All the favorites will be in 100’s of treasuries and nobody new will ever be on the FP, unless they are pounced.

    Think about it – that massive European Street Team already has a monopoly, along with a few other teams, imagine that instead of 1 treasury they can make dozens at once.

    Forget it. Unless you are an Etsy Pet, they will never promote you.

  20. WTFISAPDF April 13, 2010 at 5:59 am #

    Well I’m glad the peach tree is still getting her payback for buying Danielle the t shirt.

  21. MadeByM**** April 13, 2010 at 7:42 am #

    Well, no offense to any jewelry makers that frequent this blog, but I probably will never buy jewelry on Etsy because I will always wonder if they really made it or not……

    Etsy has become a big joke in my eyes…………I so want to quit buying from there but I know there are still legitimate artists & crafters on there. I don’t want to penalize them because of the venue they’re in…………that’s what sucks about it.

  22. MadeByM**** April 13, 2010 at 7:43 am #

    I’ve given up selling on there. My shop is still up for now but I’m not trying too hard anymore. I’m trying to focus more on my own site.

  23. notvintage April 13, 2010 at 7:49 am #

    Just a quick reminder: “Uh oh! Better get Mayco!”
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/mayco

  24. itstinks April 13, 2010 at 9:42 am #

    WHat I think is funny about the comments on that treasury is that someone actually SAYS “what, do you think all you have to do is bring a bottle of wine to the etsy office and you’ll get on the FP?” (paraphrased).

    LMAO

    Yes, I do think that. Buy them gifts and they will like you. Suddenly, you are creative enough with good enough pics to make the front page.

  25. Stephica April 13, 2010 at 10:28 am #

    My favorite part is that they apparently didn’t realize that flocking to that treasury, commenting on it and sending the link to friends would cause it to rapidly rise in the treasury rank.

    After the older ones expire in a couple hours it might be the #1 Treasury. I’ve been taking screenshots of all the flames in case it gets deleted or they delete their own comments.

  26. MadeByM**** April 13, 2010 at 10:35 am #

    This is just my opinion…………….but check this out…….they are the featured seller on the front page right now……….

    http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=40066064&ref=fp_feat_13

    I JUST watched Martha Stewart show YESTERDAY making these from a $3.00 T-shirt! Come on………$24.00 to $74.00……

  27. Stephica April 13, 2010 at 10:44 am #

    She deleted this comment but I preserved it as it was typed for posterity:

    Sharonclancydesigns
    This is considered mean spirited, uprofessional, and according to etsy guidelines and rules this is “calling out,” whic is not allowed. You have broken a rule on etsy, who are you? Why do you not reveal your true identity if you are being sincere with this treasury? People get on the front page by building bridges, NOT burning them. I agree with noblegnome.

  28. MadeByM**** April 13, 2010 at 11:06 am #

    The Treasury comments are pretty entertaining! Why are some of them so offended by it? Is it because they know they are getting free advertising from Etsy and are the constant subject of forum discussions? I would think they would love even more publicity………

    Gawd, people are so funny……………

    And how in the he** is this calling out in the Treasury? It’s not like you titled it “The FP Bitches of Etsy”…………..

  29. Life During Wartime April 13, 2010 at 11:17 am #

    I thought calling out in a Treasury would be something like “all this art was copied from my friends’ shops” or “a shameless bunch of reseller junque”. How is the statement of a fact — these sellers have been on a hella lot of FPs — calling out?

    If I was one of the sellers in that Treasury, I might feel uncomfortable with it only if I knew there was some reason for my FP popularity that I wouldn’t want potential buyers to know.

  30. ugh April 13, 2010 at 11:39 am #

    And how in the he** is this calling out in the Treasury? It’s not like you titled it “The FP Bitches of Etsy”…………..

    —————–

    LOL!! Maybe Etsy Suck Ups or Etsy’s on their payroll

    I mean really. Watch – it’ll get deleted because they are all complaining to admin right now, or it’ll be on the FP & cause a shit storm.

  31. ugh April 13, 2010 at 11:43 am #

    OOops and this that LDW said –

    If I was one of the sellers in that Treasury, I might feel uncomfortable with it only if I knew there was some reason for my FP popularity that I wouldn’t want potential buyers to know.

    ————

    Right. Why be embarrassed and defensive? We all know Etsy has favorites & who most of them are. If they aren’t doing something wrong they shouldn’t give 2 hot craps about this treasury. Its not a false accusation to be a favorite if it can be PROVEN, so their good names aren’t sullied. Whats the big whoop?

  32. Em April 13, 2010 at 11:45 am #

    As far as the featured seller goes… they say “All of our designs are original.” Now, I guess they could have come up with it themselves, but it is really unique enough to get it patented? Correct me if I’m wrong. They probably got featured because they have already been featured in many periodicals, and are already really successful Etsy sellers. Oh and they fit into Etsy’s “hipster vibe” and are based in Brooklyn. With that said, they have some nice things, just a little out of my price range for some torn up cotton.

  33. MadeByM**** April 13, 2010 at 12:08 pm #

    I just thought it was totally weird (ironic?) to see them on the FP as a featured seller today after I saw it on TV yesterday!!!

    http://www.marthastewart.com/show/the-martha-stewart-show/fashion-crafts-with-queen-latifah

  34. MadeByM**** April 13, 2010 at 12:13 pm #

    I wonder if they will after Martha for copyright infringment? LOL!

  35. kitten April 13, 2010 at 2:15 pm #

    Stephica Says:
    She deleted this comment but I preserved it as it was typed for posterity:

    Sharonclancydesigns
    This is considered mean spirited, uprofessional, and according to etsy guidelines and rules this is “calling out,” whic is not allowed. You have broken a rule on etsy, who are you? Why do you not reveal your true identity if you are being sincere with this treasury? People get on the front page by building bridges, NOT burning them. I agree with noblegnome.

    ______________________

    WOW, what an arrogant bitch! (sharonclancydesigns) <– oh and noblegnome too.

    "This is considered mean spirited, uprofessional, and according to etsy guidelines and rules this is “calling out,” whic is not allowed. You have broken a rule on etsy, who are you? "

    sharonclancy, how was this calling out? Sounds like you're feeling guilty or just pissed because your Etsy favoritism was exposed.

  36. Em April 13, 2010 at 2:59 pm #

    I don’t think I “get it” when it comes to that treasury. Was it made to celebrate the successful crafters or point out that favoritism has caused these people to be featured WAY more than the average seller (or in some opinions, more than is fair)?

  37. Indeed April 13, 2010 at 3:29 pm #

    I think that the point was to show how unfair this practice is while maintaining a veneer of congratulations so that it wouldn’t get taken down for “calling out” these people.

  38. notvintage April 13, 2010 at 3:38 pm #

    Em took the words out of my mouth re: that featured seller.
    “WE” “our”…………… and from Brooklyn. I wouldn’t buy, because there is nothing in the shop that indicates that there is A Person behind those designs (which are so derivative)
    Etsy admins pick things for their photography very often, and these sure look like they cost somebody plenty.
    Unimpressed in the maxx

  39. ugh April 13, 2010 at 5:29 pm #

    sharonclancy posted again. She sure is an angry person. Why is she so offended that people know she’s been on the FP a kabillion times? Jeez. You think a person would be grateful and used to FREE promotion. I know I would.

  40. Stephica April 13, 2010 at 5:34 pm #

    Another comment that she’ll probably delete. FYI, I’m not a seller and I don’t have a store. I’m a grad student, I know a handful of Etsy sellers in real life (and I don’t feel compelled to divulge them). I like buying as much as possible handmade, but apparently only people with stores count as “real” to sharonclancydesigns.

    Sharonclancydesigns
    Hey Stephica, if you are really “for real” then why do you not reveal your true identity here. I find it interesting that you are so aware of who goes to the front page when you, Stephica, don’t even have a store. Why would you even care? The answer is clear, this is not who you actually are. You are using a pseudonym, that is cowardly.

  41. missmochiisme April 13, 2010 at 6:20 pm #

    Way to go Stephica! The nepotism on etsy is as appalling as their disregard of resellers.

  42. Uhwha April 13, 2010 at 6:40 pm #

    Only the guilty are quickly offended.

    A normal person with nothing to hide would comment thanking Etsy for the honor of being on the FP a lot.

    Those who click and link to each other constantly, allowing the Admins to be lazy and repetitive, act like a bunch of kids caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

    Let’s totally take advantage of the stupidity of the Admins! Yay! I’ll bring the cake and free t-shirts..

  43. uh-huh April 13, 2010 at 7:26 pm #

    Anybody paying attention knows you can’t say anything against the darlings or admin without high danger of it traveling far/wide (forums, twitter, etc) and getting one a ‘bad rep’ as a jerk or meanie so they love to call people cowardly for not using their real shop id. Pfftt. Always a good try to redirect attention away from the topic at hand.

  44. Tweetingshit April 13, 2010 at 9:47 pm #

    They’ve taken to tweeting shit about Stephica, looks like most of it is retweeted by this account: http://twitter.com/EtsyNepotism

    I looked at her purchases, only thing that they could be talking about are the pipes. So mature of them.

  45. ugh April 14, 2010 at 2:19 am #

    I bet sharonclancy is behind that account. What does it matter that the curator of the page doesn’t have a store? Who cares. Buyers can make treasuries too.

    If I was soley a buyer & saw her acting that way I’d never shop from her store. Seems ungrateful for her popularity, and very unpleasant to work with. You should reach a point that others opinions don’t matter & obviously she cares A LOT about being an etsy pet & wants to be worshipped for it, not questioned.

    If worshipped enough, maybe she will pass on her secrets, and also some people like to be popular by association; hence the whole entourage thing in Hollywood.

  46. WTFISAPDF April 14, 2010 at 4:10 am #

    Usually when someone gets overly defensive, they have something to hide.

    If it’s the truth, and the numbers are right, then what’s the problem?

    I think it’s a clever, creative treasury. It validates the favoritism alleged by so many, and for those who think it’s well deserved for others to be featured on the front page to check the shops of those catching the eye of admin.

    Sharonclancydesigns doth protest too much.

    I’d like to see someone make a treasury of all reseller shit just to see if it made the front page.

  47. WTFISAPDF April 14, 2010 at 6:40 am #

    I just noticed Sharonclancy designs doesn’t have that many sales for someone featured on the front page over 150 times.

    So much for the theory that front page exposure leads to tons of sales

  48. WTFISAPDF April 14, 2010 at 6:51 am #

    Is Sharonclancydesigns and Macclancy related? I see they are from the same place and put one another in their treasuries.

  49. ugh April 14, 2010 at 7:23 am #

    Might be related or the same person. I remember another theory, even said on a Flickr group of front pages, that a few shops do this, and then by etsy fate the treasury ends up on fp

  50. Staticcling April 14, 2010 at 8:06 am #

    All comments on the treasury have been disabled…odd, for a ‘celebrative’ treasury. WTF, Etsy, WTF…

  51. not a petsy April 14, 2010 at 8:25 am #

    i notice the mosaic artist also had a high ratio of fp to items sold plus listed…..

    between reading the tweets and the comments i smell something sanctimonious and clublike.

  52. WTFISAPDF April 14, 2010 at 8:30 am #

    Staticcling Says:
    April 14, 2010 at 8:06 am
    All comments on the treasury have been disabled…odd, for a ‘celebrative’ treasury. WTF, Etsy, WTF…
    ————————————-

    Gee, doesn’t that just validate the favoritism conspiracy theory.

  53. ugh April 14, 2010 at 8:38 am #

    Not disabled, just ran out of room. I’ve seen it before but not often

  54. Irony April 14, 2010 at 11:12 am #

    One of the treasury incest cheerleaders/newer members had this hilarious tidbit on Twitter in response to the treasury:

    Garden_22

    @glitz_glitter I really think that those are the kinds of people that will never be happy unless THEY are on top. And God help us if they do

  55. Angel April 14, 2010 at 12:06 pm #

    Well then, that crazy one goes on my personal DNB list. If that is the response to a treasury, I don’t even want to think about what would happen if something with an order went wrong.

  56. MrsFreeze April 14, 2010 at 12:15 pm #

    The whole group makes me sick. I happened to follow one of their groupies on twitter (not knowing any better) their cliquey comments remind me of high school.

  57. missmochiisme April 14, 2010 at 12:19 pm #

    They’ve reopened the comments on Stephica’s treasury.

  58. ugh April 14, 2010 at 12:32 pm #

    Irony Says:
    April 14, 2010 at 11:12 am

    One of the treasury incest cheerleaders/newer members had this hilarious tidbit on Twitter in response to the treasury:

    Garden_22

    @glitz_glitter I really think that those are the kinds of people that will never be happy unless THEY are on top. And God help us if they do

    ———————-

    EW. Yeah, God forbid if someone not anointed by Etsy Admin is successful. What a bitchy thing to say.

  59. notvintage April 14, 2010 at 1:22 pm #

    If the foo shits, wear it. No, that’s not the quote.
    If it walks like a duck, it usually is. that’s the one.

  60. WTFISAPDF April 14, 2010 at 2:20 pm #

    Yeah sharonclancydesigns, so many people use their real names on Etsy.

    Seriously, get a life outside of the realm of Etsy treasuries.

    I guess Mac Clancy is a real name? Perhaps your name?

  61. Stephica April 14, 2010 at 4:10 pm #

    I love that the picture I use on Etsy is really me (I have no reason for it not to be!). I also love that as Tweetingshit pointed out, they are mocking my Etsy buying history on twitter. I purchased glass pipes for a couple friends in Cali (note that they were purchased a couple weeks before Christmas) as well as matching hemp scented soap; they keep saying on Twitter how “high” I must be.

    If I were a “real” person with a shop imagine how much they would shit talk my wares.

    Can’t wait to make another treasury after this one expires.

  62. missmochiisme April 14, 2010 at 4:25 pm #

    I’m looking forward to your new treasury too!

  63. ugh April 14, 2010 at 4:36 pm #

    me too. Don’t let the high & mighty kick you.

  64. polestarjewelry April 14, 2010 at 7:22 pm #

    Still talking shit about Stephica on Twitter:

    Polestar:
    @glazedOverTweet You would think someone as high as she is all the time would be less high strung about everything.

  65. Amused April 14, 2010 at 7:56 pm #

    Holy high school over there in Twitter land. I look forward to the next treasury.

  66. Staticcling April 14, 2010 at 8:01 pm #

    These folk seem to think Etsy is Sweet Valley High, or something.

  67. Amused April 14, 2010 at 9:31 pm #

    Staticcling Says:

    These folk seem to think Etsy is Sweet Valley High, or something.

    ———————————

    Now that’s true vintage 😉

  68. Em April 15, 2010 at 5:18 am #

    They called you out for buying glass pipes and hemp soap…. what a ridiculously low thing to do. You know they must feel guilty when they resort to personal attacks.

  69. UhWha April 15, 2010 at 8:10 am #

    They are typical high school bullies with their oh so fake smiles, while they plot behind the backs of normal hard working artists. Hope you feel good about yourself!

  70. PussDaddy April 15, 2010 at 10:57 am #

    Well thank God she bought weed pipes and not crank pipes is all I can say. Lord knows we all would hate for anyone to be called out for once having done “hard” drugs or anything.

  71. Stephica April 15, 2010 at 8:51 pm #

    The new treasury: http://www.etsy.com/treasury_list.php?room_id=126212

    Sharing the spotlight
    The familiar and the fresh, together at last!
    After reading some of the comments on my last treasury, I decided that I should spread the love around. The first six sellers featured in this treasury have yet to grace the front page of Etsy, while the second six sellers have had their beautiful creations on Etsy’s front page over fifty times each.

  72. Staticcling April 16, 2010 at 3:22 am #

    The ‘Stunning Yellow Sapphire Bypass Ring’ was hand-made by typing stunning at the beginning of the title….way to go, fifty times featured Etsy shop! The previously ignored plushy bird is awesome, though.

  73. ugh April 16, 2010 at 5:06 am #

    Pease has been on the fp 50 times? why does she complain so much then? Not being bitchy, i’m generally confused by this.

  74. ugh April 16, 2010 at 5:08 am #

    I only bring her up because i see her in the forums posting a lot and nobody else’s name is familiar to me.

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