Links 5/13

13 May

*****Brand new pencil skirt purchased from Saks Fifth Avenue in 2009 from seller elyse72 who has been on Etsy since ’08 so she knows the rules-
http://www.etsy.com/listing/44797711/new-authentic-designer-black-pencil?ref=v1_other_2

*****A shop with NWT shirts, and items pictured still in packaging-
http://www.etsy.com/shop/rinad08

*****NWT Juicy Purses-
http://www.etsy.com/shop/mzfabulosity777

*****An eclectic mix of brand new and garage sale-
http://www.etsy.com/shop/misty57

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315 Responses to “Links 5/13”

  1. PussDaddy May 13, 2010 at 9:14 am #

    Why does everyone feel they are the exception to the rule/

  2. Liz May 13, 2010 at 9:25 am #

    At this point, I don’t think it’s a matter of being the exception, but being the norm.

    I think people are thinking “everyone else is breaking the rules, why should I be following them when I could be making more money?!?”

    I don’t blame them. Etsy has gone way downhill. Let them keep selling their garbage on there. I hope the whole stinking site gets overrun with this kind of crap.

  3. Life During Wartime May 13, 2010 at 9:43 am #

    The last time I pounced for undiscovered shops, almost half of the ones Etsy showed me were either resellers or confused junquers like the shops in the links above.

    I’d never seen such a high percentage of problem shops.

    The remaining shops looked fine, though, and there were even a handful with amazing art I would love to buy from. There were some handmade jewelry shops that have been open for a while without a sale, and their photos I thought were FP worth…just sayin’.

    If I can find a load of shops that need to be removed while I’m just waiting for my computer to finish a security scan, why can’t Etsy sit one of the cupcakettes down for 1 hour each day to have a look at new shops, undiscovered or not? Someone who doesn’t go glassy-eyed with purchase lust when they see a photo of used shoes.

    Good call-outs, though.
    Etsy can host fleas with the worst of them, sorry to say.

  4. jcjohn May 13, 2010 at 9:50 am #

    etsy…..ebay’s new little sister

  5. Life During Wartime May 13, 2010 at 10:25 am #

    I guess Etsy answered my question about how cupcakettes use pounce with today’s Etsy Finds.

    Etsy doesn’t get why this shop wasn’t attracting customers:
    http://www.etsy.com/people/vintaggio/feedback
    so maybe they felt featuring them in Finds would make it all better.

    Of course, their item in the Finds sold. In one listing in her shop she describes her items as “designer resell”. That’s cupcakese for “vintage”, I guess.

  6. MadeByM**** May 13, 2010 at 11:02 am #

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/46579596/vintage-60s-70s-chunky-platforms-heels

    How are these worth $125.00?????

  7. imwithya May 13, 2010 at 12:18 pm #

    Etsy finds obviously doesn’t look at the shops they feature. The picks are based soley on photographs. Besides continually featuring resellers, they have also featured sellers who have bad feedback for poor quality products/no communication/missing shipments. Why should those shops get special promotion?

    And no I don’t think the front page/finds features to be “fair” and give all sellers a chance. I just think that admin could spend a few minutes looking into shops for easy to spot blatant violations before putting them on the front page and in emails.

    The fact that this subject is constantly brought up in the forums and they STILL aren’t careful about what they feature boggles the mind. WTF is wrong with them?

  8. Life During Wartime May 13, 2010 at 12:57 pm #

    I dunno WTF is wrong at Etsy, but so many problem transactions from a single buyer with different sellers within a few weeks should have sent off an automated notice to the staff — I mean when she purchased a bunch of stuff and payment was never processed for some of them.

    It looks like she didn’t start listing items until 2 weeks after she made all her purchases (and we don’t know how many she made, only the ones where the seller left FB). An account with that many incomplete transactions should not have been able to list without communication with the Etsy staff to verify what ever problem she had with PayPal was resolved. That never happened since she was still getting neutrals and negs this week.

    Being featured in Finds was like Etsy making this seller’s careless attitude about transactions vanish. So wrong.

  9. crazy cat lady May 13, 2010 at 1:28 pm #

    MadeByM**** Says:
    May 13, 2010 at 11:02 am

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/46579596/vintage-60s-70s-chunky-platforms-heels

    How are these worth $125.00?????
    _________________________________

    Holy Crap!! They look like something from Payless within the last decade – or in the 90’s, at least. I would have worn those when I was 10 years younger. She doesn’t even give a designer name? Ugh

  10. uh-huh May 13, 2010 at 1:48 pm #

    Mmmm, expensive shoes on dirty feet, excellent.

  11. it stinks May 13, 2010 at 1:48 pm #

    Hey – I buy shoes at Payless and none of my shoes are that ugly.

  12. Etsy Person May 13, 2010 at 2:15 pm #

    When I see things like the $125 shoes, my first thought is, “Are you insane?”

  13. WTFISAPDF May 13, 2010 at 2:24 pm #

    Are you serious? Those shoes, with the filthy feet inside, featured in the Etsy Finds?

    Gross, just gross

  14. Lala May 13, 2010 at 3:32 pm #

    $125 for used stripper shoes!?! They sell those shoes online (brand new) for around $60. Hope no one buys them…

  15. Lala May 13, 2010 at 3:35 pm #

    Oops sorry, I was referring to these: http://www.etsy.com/view_transaction.php?transaction_id=29039178

    I can’t believe they sold.

  16. Huh? May 13, 2010 at 4:16 pm #

    Ew! Her feet are disgusting!

  17. GucciBooty May 13, 2010 at 5:38 pm #

    I DO look down on people who think something is okay “because other people do it”. That attitude is what I would call a lack of ethical fiber and an inability to think for oneself.
    Yes, I blame them for following along to “get a sale”. If I want shit like that I will find it elsewhere, cheaper and more honestly.

    ps try searching designer labels under handmade, but only if your blood pressure is not elevated.

  18. Anon May 13, 2010 at 7:02 pm #

    @Lala – I wonder if they really did sell, or if we saw who “bought” them, it would be a 0% feedback newbie.

    Love this one – I’m sure they’re making a hefty profit on these “handmade” goods, necklaces for 4 or 5 dollars a pop.
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/DaKaLa

  19. Staticcling May 13, 2010 at 8:10 pm #

    Etsy has some very clear rules that all must follow to use the site. Actual crafters are paying fees according to the legal agreement, but the admins continually flout their own rules to favor resellers and a tiny minority of favored ones–I can understand where one shop wouldn’t have the wherewithal to sue, but a nice class action suit might get their attention, IMO.

  20. Life During Wartime May 13, 2010 at 8:28 pm #

    Even if Etsy never featured the resellers, they allow them to have shops and even coach them so they look to shoppers like they belong on Etsy. Like indiepixie being allowed to resell once she stopped using the professional photos from her dropshipper source. Or the mighty morphin’ BroochKing switching from handmade to vintage and back again. That has got to mean some legal problems because the venue appears to be assisting resellers to deceive the public.

    Etsy needs to come out and say they allow items handmade in mass production facilities, so buyers and sellers can make informed decisions about whether or not they want to throw any more money at Etsy.

    A suit — or even a threat of a suit — that got Etsy to come clean would be a good thing.

  21. PussDaddy May 14, 2010 at 3:19 am #

    Blech!

  22. GucciBooty May 14, 2010 at 5:39 am #

    Confused here?
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/WomenClothingToday

  23. Etsy Person May 14, 2010 at 5:55 am #

    Good ole anton introduces himself as the marketing manager in the profile…lets see Etsy retool this ones description,

  24. jcjohn May 14, 2010 at 6:56 am #

    Love the feedback to the “vintage” shoe shop linked to above

  25. MadeByM**** May 14, 2010 at 7:14 am #

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/WomenClothingToday

    Quotes from the website “womenclothingtoday.com”….

    “Visit our blog to learn more about our artists and designers, as well as unique handmade silk products we create for You. ”

    “Each of our silk scarf and shawl is individually hand painted by our designers and artists in the ancient batik craft.”

    Kind of doubting this is a “collective”……….

  26. sick of cupcakes May 14, 2010 at 10:25 am #

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/cutehatsstore

    these folks never give up.

  27. Life During Wartime May 14, 2010 at 10:38 am #

    I’ve added cutehats to my reseller shops folder.

    As of right now, haibo686 and tibetvintages are still open with their items visible, listed as vintage. Next week will be tibetvintages 1 month anniversary on Etsy. WJW

    Go, SCAMbot, go!

  28. Life During Wartime May 14, 2010 at 11:04 am #

    OhFaro boosts a reseller in the forums:

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6521052&page=2

    Super cheap swarovski wedding jewelry, with stock numbers, direct from HK.

  29. Life During Wartime May 14, 2010 at 11:07 am #

    Found petitgift on ebay:
    http://stores.ebay.co.uk/petitgift_Wedding-Bridal_W0QQ_fsubZ110387010QQ_sidZ437138520QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em322

    They are an accessories merchant with a huge range of products, not a handmade wedding jewelry shop.

  30. Em May 14, 2010 at 11:17 am #

    I’ve tried googling it and figuring it out myself…. what does WJW stand for?? Just curious.

  31. WTFISAPDF May 14, 2010 at 11:41 am #

    It amazes me how so many in that forum thread can jump on the poor OP for asking a question about where to buy something similar to what she wants, and then move to another thead to whine that they have no sales.

    What friggin part of being rude and obnoxious equates to driving customers away don’t they understand?

  32. jenn May 14, 2010 at 11:52 am #

    Em, WJW is Wow, Just Wow.
    Like when nothing can be said about something than simply “wow”.

    At least I think that’s what it means. My sister said it’s “Weird, Just Weird” which might also work, given the context.

  33. Life During Wartime May 14, 2010 at 11:56 am #

    WJW = wow. just wow.

    I, too, was surprised by the treatment of the OP. What better place to ask about finding a handmade necklace than the place on the web for all things handmade?

    What got me in that thread is that someone who makes jewelry could be so easily deceived by a jewelry reseller.

    I’ve had petitgift in my resellers folder since they opened, but I didn’t bother documenting them until now.

  34. Em May 14, 2010 at 2:07 pm #

    Thanks jenn and LDW. Now I know 🙂

    I was also really surprised how rude some of those people were to the OP. Maybe she didn’t want the exact necklace she linked to… or it wasn’t for sale. They need to chill the hell out!

  35. sick of cupcakes May 14, 2010 at 2:09 pm #

    Now they are all picking on someone for using caps.

  36. WTFISAPDF May 14, 2010 at 2:13 pm #

    I am completely mortified by how the OP is being treated in that thread. All she asked was how to find something of a similar style and the vultures attack her like a dead skunk.

    For what it’s worth, I am going to convo Rob White about the attitude of Laurie Ryan, and DesignsbyBaerreis. They are friggin unbelievable.

    The OP hasn’t returned to the thread. Who the hell could blame her. All she was trying to do was to support an Etsy artist. Damn, she should be burned at the stake for that!

  37. Life During Wartime May 14, 2010 at 2:58 pm #

    Someone on the first page posted a link to instructions for making the necklace. I know I have a similar pattern in an old beading mag around here somewhere as well.

    If the person who made the piece in the OPs link considered her work an original design she didn’t want anyone to copy, she would not have included a list of materials fercryinoutloud! Anyone who makes jewelry could figure out how to do it from the photo and materials list.

    I am losing a lot of respect for some of the sellers on Etsy from that thread. They should STFU.

  38. Amused May 14, 2010 at 3:44 pm #

    Pease on FP again????????? Double yawn. Please bore us some more Etsy.

  39. sick of cupcakes May 14, 2010 at 4:09 pm #

    That makes at least 2 times today and PS was on too at least once that I saw.

  40. WTFISAPDF May 14, 2010 at 4:24 pm #

    sick of cupcakes Says:
    May 14, 2010 at 4:09 pm
    That makes at least 2 times today and PS was on too at least once that I saw.
    ———————————–

    Happy to hear they didn’t miss out on their orgasm for the day.

  41. RocksInMySocks May 14, 2010 at 5:08 pm #

    I find it very fitting that PissBlossom is on the fp so often yet still doesn’t have that many sales, considering the number of years she’s been selling. Guess her forum nastiness cancels out a lot of the free promotions.

  42. Indeed May 14, 2010 at 5:10 pm #

    Etsy staff likes Polestar and Peaseblossomstudio Twitter pal Garden22 so much they felt she needed to be on the FP twice in one feature;

    Does anyone know which Etsy staff person or persons does the FP? Is it just one person or many? Is it a HUGE SECRET?

  43. MadeByM**** May 14, 2010 at 5:42 pm #

    Someone is having fun with a word in Etc right now….. (sighs & rolls eyes)…..

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_search.php?search_query=dildo&search_type=forum_title&ref=auto

  44. WTFISAPDF May 14, 2010 at 5:48 pm #

    Indeed Says:
    May 14, 2010 at 5:10 pm
    Etsy staff likes Polestar and Peaseblossomstudio Twitter pal Garden22 so much they felt she needed to be on the FP twice in one feature;
    ————————

    Don’t go pointing that out in the forums or the cupcakettes will beat you with their dildo’s, seeings how they are all so mature, ya know.

  45. sick of cupcakes May 14, 2010 at 6:56 pm #

    WTFISAPDF, I think I may have just peed myself.

    I can picture those cupcake eating sows chasing down the poor innocent people who dare to post on their forum, with their dirty nasty dildos.

  46. crapitycrap May 14, 2010 at 7:42 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/45887316/big-happy-buddha-statue-set-in-resin

    Tagged as supplies. Seriously? WTF?

  47. WTFISAPDF May 14, 2010 at 7:56 pm #

    crapitycrap Says:
    May 14, 2010 at 7:42 pm
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/45887316/big-happy-buddha-statue-set-in-resin

    Tagged as supplies. Seriously? WTF?
    —————————————-

    Seriously, don’t you know this is a supply for all the pre-fabbed zen gardens? You stick the buddha in the center of the tiny weeney little sandbox you bought at the dollar store so you can legitimately call it handmade, and call it a day- Etsy style.

  48. crapitycrap May 14, 2010 at 7:59 pm #

    Maybe I’ll glue some rhinestones on and call it Deco-Zen 😉

  49. WTFISAPDF May 14, 2010 at 8:07 pm #

    crapitycrap Says:
    May 14, 2010 at 7:59 pm
    Maybe I’ll glue some rhinestones on and call it Deco-Zen
    ————-
    Now you’re thinking like a true Etsy employee!!

  50. WTFISAPDF May 14, 2010 at 8:11 pm #

    RocksInMySocks Says:
    May 14, 2010 at 5:08 pm
    I find it very fitting that PissBlossom is on the fp so often yet still doesn’t have that many sales, considering the number of years she’s been selling. Guess her forum nastiness cancels out a lot of the free promotions.
    ——————————–
    You are right! Peeblossom has only 275 sales in over two years. Considering she’s been on the front page at least that many times, that’s a very low number. She has a beautiful shop and reasonable prices.

    Do you think it could be her forum decorum that’s keeping her sales down?

  51. WTFISAPDF May 14, 2010 at 8:12 pm #

    Oh shit, I didn’t mean to write that about peebottom. I don’t want to emotionally exhaust her. She gets enough of that in the forums

  52. Indeed May 14, 2010 at 8:18 pm #

    PoleStar is the one who gets emotionally exhausted over the forums and starts binging on cheap Franzia from Target. Wait, I’ve just been informed that Target carries their own brand of boxed wine called The Wine Cube.

    Peaseblossomstudios is the one that will attack people with insults that eerily and specifically apply to Peaseblossomstudios herself.

  53. Indeed May 14, 2010 at 8:22 pm #

    On twitter they are complaining about a curator having their other shop in a treasury. They are the corrupt treasury police who ignores their friend’s infractions.

    Also, are there two Treasury Mafias? Because it looks like there is the PoleStar/Pease etc one and then a seperate MacLancy/Humblebea etc one.

  54. Life During Wartime May 14, 2010 at 8:22 pm #

    crapitycrap, the whole shop is full of imported reseller items
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/kuberacove

    How can mineral specimens be commercial supplies?

    Why are statues allowed as supplies when finished base metal chains are not?

    I swear PT Barnum will come back from the dead when Etsy goes public so he can buy stock.

  55. Indeed May 14, 2010 at 8:42 pm #

    It’s only libel if it isn’t true, so here are some of PoleStar’s wine posts. I apologize, as it wasn’t boxed wine but a big bottle of clearance wine.

    polestarjewelry Tweets:
    scored a clearance huge bottle of Merlot at Target, $4! party at my house tonight. lol. With me.

    t minus 11 minutes until it’s $4 merlot time

    @Glitz_Glitter That’s wine ‘o clock.

    The most awesome thing about my $4 wine is that I don’t even have to break out the cork screw. #screwtop #ftw

    @Garden_22 @hellopalomina bonus is that it is one of those HUGE bottles, for $4. lol. Livingston is the name

    I’m on my 3rd glass of $4 wine

    I already have a headache from this wine but I also think I am gritting my teeth. Sitting here polishing jewelry and making treasuries

  56. Amused May 14, 2010 at 9:23 pm #

    Classy, ladies. Just so damn classy!!

  57. Amused May 14, 2010 at 9:25 pm #

    More like whine o’clock I’d say.

  58. Amused May 14, 2010 at 10:11 pm #

    O.K., third time on FP for PissBottom today, now I know Etsy is screwing with us.

  59. I like wine too, so what? May 14, 2010 at 10:13 pm #

    I really liked this blog when it was about busting resellers. That’s still an important subject but it’s getting diluted by the pettiness.
    Maybe there could be a separate blog about bashing handmade shops for their drinking habits or something. Because I guess I don’t see what that has to do with the mission of ECO.
    Has this devolved to just “callin out people who we just don’t like for random reasons”?

  60. Amused May 14, 2010 at 10:24 pm #

    Um, no, and read the title of the blog. How many times must it be repeated that it is for more than resellers? All issues that can’t be called out in the Etsy forums are fair game.

    Also, please define ‘random reasons’ because I believe many posters have put forth valid arguments to the cause over many postings.

    If I am drinking $4.00 wine I am not bragging about it!

  61. doodette May 14, 2010 at 10:30 pm #

    and other hot topics since admin won’t let us.

  62. Indeed May 14, 2010 at 11:00 pm #

    PoleStar’s buddy I like wine too, so what? thinks it’s not kosher to discuss someone’s publicly chronicled and hilariously pathetic drinking exploits, but it is 100% A OK to accuse a buyer and let us not forget lesbian girlfriend of a seller of being high or whatever based on what they’ve bought.

    Oh and I think I’ll go with etsyblacklisted’s phrase Treasury Incest instead of Treasury Mafia. Treasury Mafia implies a competency and intelligence that these birds just don’t have.

  63. Amused May 14, 2010 at 11:37 pm #

    Ha ha, incest is best.

  64. WTFISAPDF May 15, 2010 at 4:34 am #

    Nothing like sitting home on a Friday night drinking cheap wine that’s probably vinegarized. Could be the cause of the headache.

  65. sick of cupcakes May 15, 2010 at 5:41 am #

    Maybe she should douche with that wine. Must need it after the treasury incest shenanigans.

  66. WTFISAPDF May 15, 2010 at 7:09 am #

    This cracks me up. Now why would you put a wrinkled dress on the front page? It’s about as tempting as dirty feet.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/46319412/reserved-for-nacuman-sea-shore-dress?ref=fp_feat_9

  67. sick of cupcakes May 15, 2010 at 7:35 am #

    And a reserved wrinkled dress at that. Looks like something from the bottom of my hamper.

  68. haterade May 15, 2010 at 10:30 am #

    So, when did this site turn into calling out horrid mis-tagging and reselling to just picking on people who happen to make it on the Front Page or a Finds article?

    I think it’s high-time to clean the sand out of your vaginas, and put your big-girl pants. Reality check: if Etsy isn’t putting your item on the Front page, it’s because the picture is ugly or the product sucks. Work on that instead of stalking people on twitter.

  69. JK May 15, 2010 at 10:36 am #

    ‘if Etsy isn’t putting your item on the Front page, it’s because the picture is ugly or the product sucks. ‘

    This is the funniest goddamn thing I’ve read all day.

  70. sick of cupcakes May 15, 2010 at 10:47 am #

    I don’t twitter and I have been on the FP several times, but thanks for being concerned about my pics.

  71. uh-huh May 15, 2010 at 10:52 am #

    Ah, I see…. so everyone NOT on the FP is a pathetic sucky loser with shit products and shit photos. My God, it suddenly becomes so clear.
    Clear as a big pile of stinky shit.

  72. I like wine too, so what? May 15, 2010 at 11:07 am #

    Indeed Says:
    May 14, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    PoleStar’s buddy I like wine too, so what? thinks it’s not kosher to discuss someone’s publicly chronicled and hilariously pathetic drinking exploits, but it is 100% A OK to accuse a buyer and let us not forget lesbian girlfriend of a seller of being high or whatever based on what they’ve bought.
    ——————————
    Did someone do that on this blog?
    Because if they did, no it wasn’t “kosher” either. It’s just as irrelevant to ECO as what someone drinks on a Friday night.
    If someone did that on some other site, like their own twitter or whatever, then that’s a good place for it.
    It’s just lame seeing a serious and important blog like this lose credibility when it turns into just another PD-style petty personal rant.

    Also for the record, I think the constant FP repeats are due to nothing more than LAZY and careless Etsy admins who don’t really give a fuck. Not due to only 50 people having good pictures (which I agree is laughable and arrogant). Not due to conspiracies and mafias. Just the usual, typical, constant adminFAIL, same as it ever was.

  73. Life During Wartime May 15, 2010 at 11:21 am #

    haterade sez: “Reality check: if Etsy isn’t putting your item on the Front page, it’s because the picture is ugly or the product sucks.”

    That’s not a reality check. That’s doublethink a la Etsy. I guess you took the time to post that here as part of your Two Minutes’ Hate.

  74. WTFISAPDF May 15, 2010 at 11:28 am #

    I don’t have sand in my vagina. I don’t think the saying is “put on your big girl panties”. I believe it’s “pull up your big girl panties”. But it’s probably been some time since you left middle school, eh?

  75. Indeed May 15, 2010 at 11:46 am #

    Hey Pease/Jaros/Glitz/I like wine too, so what?

    It was one of your anonymous pseudonyms or twitter friends that posted this, so stop feigning indignance.

    tweetwo pies Says:
    May 6, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Yeah Stephica, you are so busy stalking craftcult and getting high! You would think that all this hemming and hawing over Etsy would be a buzz kill for you.

    Stop trying to treat this blog like it’s the Etsy forums. We aren’t fools, it’s pathetically obvious that the people being discussed along with they friends are making this anonymous accounts.

  76. Indeed May 15, 2010 at 11:48 am #

    Also, I like wine too, so what? must be Pease. The internet lawyer talk was a clue, but the callin out on PussDaddy (and calling her PD) was the clincher.

  77. Amused May 15, 2010 at 12:19 pm #

    haterade says: “Reality check: if Etsy isn’t putting your item on the Front page, it’s because the picture is ugly or the product sucks.”

    “So, when did this site turn into calling out horrid mis-tagging and reselling to just picking on people who happen to make it on the Front Page or a Finds article?”
    ____________________

    Is there an echo in here?

  78. factorygirlashli May 15, 2010 at 12:52 pm #

    wellll hmm.

    I’m not really sure what to think about all this.

    I’m slightly confused why the same people try to derail ECO by complaining about who is (or isn’t) on the FP of Etsy.com. In the grand scheme of life…. there is so much more than being on the FP.

    And seriously… who do you think you are complaining about how people act in the Etsy forums when you continue to hurl insults at people ANYONYMOUSLY?

    At least in the forums you can know exactly who said it. If you don’t like it… don’t buy from that seller, don’t put them in your treasuries, and don’t interact with them if possible.

    Copying & pasting people’s comments on twitter is NOT going to get you on the FP.

  79. WTFISAPDF May 15, 2010 at 1:06 pm #

    factorygirlashli Says:
    May 15, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    “And seriously… who do you think you are complaining about how people act in the Etsy forums when you continue to hurl insults at people ANYONYMOUSLY? …

    Copying & pasting people’s comments on twitter is NOT going to get you on the FP.”
    ——————————-

    No shit, we’re anonymous so Etsy wouldn’t know to reward us with a front page. Or are we anyonmyous?

  80. factorygirlashli May 15, 2010 at 1:09 pm #

    balls. anonymous.

  81. WTFISAPDF May 15, 2010 at 1:10 pm #

    Glad to provide you with a spelling lesson for today.

  82. factorygirlashli May 15, 2010 at 1:15 pm #

    Sadly, I was a champion speller in high school.

    But I will gladly exchange a spelling lesson for a STFU lesson anyday.

  83. Indeed May 15, 2010 at 1:15 pm #

    factorygirlashli, why don’t you talk to your twitter pals, most of whom use anonymous names on here? Pot, kettle, etc.

  84. Indeed May 15, 2010 at 1:16 pm #

    I was a doctor in high school! And president!

  85. Jane May 15, 2010 at 1:19 pm #

    Shame you couldn’t maintain that momentum Indeed . . .so sad.

  86. Jane May 15, 2010 at 1:25 pm #

    Oh, I see . . . .you were trying to be funny. I guess you were president of Clown school.

  87. polestar May 15, 2010 at 1:29 pm #

    The wine wasn’t vinegar, but thanks for thinking of me! I love having a glass of wine or two or three, etc on the weekends. My husband I don’t get out much as we have small kids at home. So I guess that is why I sit at home on a Friday night.

    Nothing like sitting at home ANY TIME and stalking someone else’s twitter though. But hey if this is entertainment to you, I am glad to provide it. If I had known that my boring little life would be so funny to others, I would just write a book so you can buy it and titter amongst yourselves.

    I like to chat on Twitter, judge that if you will, but you are only making yourselves look petty by copy and pasting my (pretty mundane) Friday night tweets.

  88. Indeed May 15, 2010 at 1:39 pm #

    Considering that pease internet stalked PB and that you under another name (or perhaps pease or glitz) stalked Stephica and posted links to her girlfriend’s account, it’s hilarious that you think you have the high ground here. I’m sure that if I gave more of a shit I could find other examples, but those two are the ones that have been brought up recently and are memorable.

    And no one is judging you for drinking. They are judging you for drunkenly tweeting retarded crap on your business twitter and rampaging in the forums while you are drunk (although i don’t think that part occured last night).

  89. polestar May 15, 2010 at 1:46 pm #

    “rampaging” that is hilarious! I don’t know what you are talking about Stephica’s girlfriends account. I was made aware that she was a sock puppet for another account, and thought she should probably stop calling out on the forums, all of which was right there in the threads.

    I don’t know who PB is.

    I can tweet whatever I want on my Twitter account, it is mine, and I certainly don’t see it hurting for followers. I am a small business, I have a great customer base, I have been tweeting for ages, and a lot. Not to worried about it.

    Especially not worried about 5 anonymous ECO posters who wouldn’t be purchasing from me anyway!

    Have a nice night. I’ll be on Twitter, if you want, I will copy and paste my whole stream here for you, so you don’t have to bother?

  90. Indeed May 15, 2010 at 1:53 pm #

    “I was made aware that she was a sock puppet for another account”

    sock puppet

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

  91. polestar May 15, 2010 at 1:58 pm #

    Just a final note to make your documentary of my life easier, I started hashtagging the tweets you might try to crucify me with, with #etsycalloutdiary

    So have fun. Glad I have so many fans, I feel like a celebrity. D-list with the worst fan club in the universe but hey, I guess I will take it where I can get it.

  92. Etsy Person May 15, 2010 at 2:01 pm #

    So what about those resellers, huh?

  93. WTFISAPDF May 15, 2010 at 2:12 pm #

    Polestar, since you’re here, why don’t you tell us why you are so indignent to others in the forums? I mean, you aren’t just hurting yourself, you and all the other snarks hurt other sellers, as well.

    You have nice stuff, and do well. But you’d do much better if you backed off with the self-righteous bullshit. I know quite a few of my Etsy pals who love your stuff (and Peaseblossom’s) but refuse to do business with you because of your attitude. You might not care about five ECO posters, but there are a lot more out there who don’t post here.

    Seriously, you are only hurting yourself and someday, it will catch up to you.

  94. I like wine too, so what? May 15, 2010 at 2:19 pm #

    Tags: elyse72, misty57, mzfabulosity777, rinad08

    5 comments about these shops
    90 comments about wine and whine and nonsense

    That seems like it happens on every ECO post now. No matter what the OP is about, all the comments go into forum gossip and namecalling that has no relation to the OP.
    Maybe the blog can just have a designated thread for complaining about people you don’t like from the forums?
    If there was a specific place for those kinds of “calling out”, then it might prevent every single topic from getting hijacked by this stuff.

  95. Andrea May 15, 2010 at 2:19 pm #

    Apparently if you disagree with the bullshit attacking of sellers you’re secretly one of them. I love the critical thinking skills required to post here. If any of you geniuses want to find out why you’re not getting on the FP, why don’t you post a link to your shops so we can dissect it and give you a reason. Maybe it’s your own charming personalities that shine through so clearly here, none of you seem smart enough to be able to keep them from coming through on the forums or your own shops.

  96. polestar May 15, 2010 at 2:25 pm #

    I can be a bitch in the forums sometimes, and I feel badly about that. But I am not all the time, and I am helpful at times. I am certainly not the only one who can cop an attitude as evidenced by the multitude of 100’s of pages train wreck threads.

    I don’t go to the forums for promotion. Like a recent featured seller” said the forums are sometimes a great substitute for “office drama” once you qydj.

    However that is no excuse. I promise to be nicer in the forums. I know I can be a better person in that regard at times. It would be nice if you all would also focus on something else as well, like the original intent of this blog.

    This is my final post here. It has sucked up some time already and I don’t want it to anymore. Mundane tweeting is fine but angsty blog back and forth, no thanks.

    Cheers,
    Jen

  97. doodette May 15, 2010 at 2:51 pm #

    word.

  98. WTFISAPDF May 15, 2010 at 2:59 pm #

    polestar Says:
    May 15, 2010 at 2:25 pm
    I can be a bitch in the forums sometimes, and I feel badly about that. But I am not all the time, and I am helpful at times. I am certainly not the only one who can cop an attitude as evidenced by the multitude of 100′s of pages train wreck threads.

    I don’t go to the forums for promotion. Like a recent featured seller” said the forums are sometimes a great substitute for “office drama” once you qydj.

    However that is no excuse. I promise to be nicer in the forums. I know I can be a better person in that regard at times. It would be nice if you all would also focus on something else as well, like the original intent of this blog.

    This is my final post here. It has sucked up some time already and I don’t want it to anymore. Mundane tweeting is fine but angsty blog back and forth, no thanks.

    Cheers,
    Jen
    —————
    Thank you Polestar. It takes a a lot of courage and a special kind of person to admit error. Hopefully, you won’t disregard us all as a bunch of jealous bitches. Heck, I don’t have a shop. I’m only a buyer and one who likes to be aware of the personalities I am dealing with when purchasing.

    Sadly, too many buyers have DNBF lists based on forum behavior. A lot of kindness can go a long way in promoting your business. I think you will find that in time, you can shed the forum reputation and really soar.

  99. detroit May 15, 2010 at 3:58 pm #

    Andrea says:
    “Apparently if you disagree with the bullshit attacking of sellers you’re secretly one of them. I love the critical thinking skills required to post here. If any of you geniuses want to find out why you’re not getting on the FP, why don’t you post a link to your shops so we can dissect it and give you a reason. Maybe it’s your own charming personalities that shine through so clearly here, none of you seem smart enough to be able to keep them from coming through on the forums or your own shops.”

    Hmmm…we’re dumb, full of shit, lack critical thinking skills, have bad shops, bad personalities…

    Wow, aren’t YOU sweet as pie – lol.

    PS – not all of us have shops. Some (quite a few of us – me included) are Etsy (EX?)shoppers who are sad to see a lot of what’s transpired there – including reselling, endless FP repetition, and the attitude of SOME of the FP regulars, who seem to be under the impression that they’re actually artistically better than everyone else, and that’s why they’re there. (…if you spent your time taking better pictures…. – how many times have I heard this? So, this implies you think your pictures / items are BETTER than everyone else’s….really??)

    So, put that in your pipe and smoke it…..genius. lol.

  100. RocksInMySocks May 15, 2010 at 6:37 pm #

    I love to see how these fp favorites get all pathetic, desperate, and needy when they’re trying to defend their repeating appearances on the fp. I’d hate to think that my business was so dependent on Etsy throwing a few crumbs my way.

    And polestar, thanks for sharing so much of your home life with us. Your kids must love having 2 parents who sit around getting drunk on cheap wine and tweeting stupid bullshit all weekend.

  101. Andrea May 15, 2010 at 7:59 pm #

    Detroit, I have no doubt that many etsy shops that are featured are often better than people who complain in the forums about not being featured. It’s not true in all cases, but in many cases people are selling products that others just don’t want to buy, or are photographed poorly, or have poor craftsmanship, or whatever. That is why I ask for specific shop links. Not much has been nice in this thread, I don’t think my comment was the worst by far.

  102. polestar May 15, 2010 at 9:06 pm #

    Yes Rocks, they are lucky boys 🙂 Very smart and very fun.

    Is it easy to sit in your throne of anonymous judgment?

    I’m comfortable with myself though. 7 billion people on the earth, I certainly can’t please them all.

    Have a good night though.

  103. Indeed May 15, 2010 at 9:53 pm #

    This is my final post here. It has sucked up some time already and I don’t want it to anymore. Mundane tweeting is fine but angsty blog back and forth, no thanks.

  104. polestar May 15, 2010 at 10:06 pm #

    Yep guess I am a liar and a bad parent.

    not.

    Sorry just couldn’t not respond to that. Guess I got sucked in sorry.

  105. jenmaestre May 15, 2010 at 11:04 pm #

    I’m posting here under my real name.

    It makes me so sad to see that ECO has become full of forum drama, and calling out resellers has seemingly become secondary.

    You guys!!

    No matter how much people piss you off in the forums, they are not the people that are really making etsy look like a Christmas Tree shop.

    Half the people that are being bitched about due to their posts in the forums *actually make things*.

    And by *half*, I mean all the ones I know. 🙂

    I remember when etsybitch made their bingo card, pointing out sellers who had been on the FP ten times a day.

    Well, now, I see some of those FP faves in the forums, saying they never get featured.

    It is a cycle, things get popular, and then, they go away.

    I’d love more than anything to see a bigger choice of sellers on the FP.

    It isn’t the seller’s fault, though, it is etsy admin who pick the FP.

    Can’t ya’ll just get back to pointing out resellers?

  106. Indeed May 15, 2010 at 11:32 pm #

    Lets say that you are right, and they aren’t featured due to any actions on their own behalf besides hard work and good photos.

    Why do they get so defensive whenever someone even mentions the amount of times they’ve been on the FP? Why do they consider it “calling out” if someone makes a treasury saying they been on the FP over 100 times? Why do they gangbang anyone in the forum who brings it up? Why do they swarm to sites like this and insist no one talk about it?

    If it were just them being on the FP a lot I might agree it was solely the lazy admins fault. But the Etsy admins can’t be blamed for the actions the featured sellers commit everytime someone questions the system.

  107. jenmaestre May 16, 2010 at 12:02 am #

    Hi Indeed,

    I really don’t know why they get so defensive. Maybe they are just upset about being attacked for something they ultimately have not much control over?

    It isn’t my point- my point is that I’d rather see reseller shops that I can flag, on this site.

    For instance- would you rather see a reseller on the FP once, or a real person who makes their own stuff on the FP ten times?

  108. Amused May 16, 2010 at 12:16 am #

    For instance- would you rather see a reseller on the FP once, or a real person who makes their own stuff on the FP ten times?
    ———————————

    So black and white? Why can’t we discuss the cons of both? Maybe some would rather see neither.

  109. jenmaestre May 16, 2010 at 12:27 am #

    Hi Amused,

    I’d be happy with no resellers at all on etsy, and a better selection of featured artists (FP, blah, blah, you get me, I hope).

    It seems to me that plucking the weeds (resellers) is way more beneficial to the face of etsy than picking on artisans who follow the TOU’s, and happen to go through their happy holiday on the FP.

    I don’t think it is black and white- as I said, I’d love to see more range of sellers on the FP.

  110. Cock O' the Block May 16, 2010 at 2:53 am #

    jen, you took the words right out of my mouth. if I want etsy forum drama, I will spend time in the forums. Frankly, this is a big reason I don’t spend much time there these days. While I appreciate the “other hot topics” aspect to ECO, this kind of petty drama really drags the mission of this blog down.

  111. WTFISAPDF May 16, 2010 at 4:57 am #

    The major flaws of Etsy are it’s blatant favoritism, lack of variety, dull front pages, failed attempts to start new fads, failure to market itself, and lack of branding.

    When I checked yesterday, there were 775 pages of treasuries and almost 6 million items offered for sale. I find it hard to believe that out of thousands of treasuries and millions of items that there is a need to feature the same curators and shops repeatedly.

    It’s known that there are sellers who court admin. We’ve read it in the forums and it was really outed with Danielle’s twitter post thanking Thepeachtree for the t-shirt. Etsy hierarchy did nothing to quell the masses. Any business concerned about integrity would have issued a statement of apology and assurance that it wouldn’t happen again. But as usual, there was silence. Danielle’s privatizing of her twitter account compares Etsy only to Tammany Hall.

    It’s obvious that there are treasury mafias, call them what you will, but the sharon clancy, maclancy, humblebea, twolefthands, dawn correspondence, krize, on and on of the same old, same old, gets old. Unless admin selects treasuries blindfolded, they deliberately perpetuate the community animosity and the lack of appeal to the consumer. It’s a gaming system that admin sanctions and one that will continue until they choose stop it.

    The forums are filled with drama, snark, nastiness, meanness, bullying, calling out and perpetual whining over a lack of views and sales. Three new forum mods were hired, yet, the gangbang mentality can go on for page after page, hour after hour, before a mod steps in. Why does this continually happen? Are all the mods in board room brownie bake-offs 24/7?

    Sure, resellers and all the glorified garage sale sellers hurt Etsy, but so does the favoritism, monotonous front page, failure to market and promote itself, and failure to grow up and act like adults.

    These are all issues that effect Etsy’s consumer traffic, so why aren’t they fair game for this blog?

  112. uh-huh May 16, 2010 at 5:28 am #

    Seems to me if Etsy was interested in eliminating (or at least cutting down) the drama they could do it. They’re in control. Take back the site from resellers. Fix the search. Monitor the FP.
    Spend less time looking for mustaches.
    They must not be that interested…..

  113. factorygirlashli May 16, 2010 at 7:11 am #

    ECO,

    I think that what you do on this blog is great. Calling out resellers and major Etsy whoopsies is very important. However, please do something about the hijacking of posts.

    I understand letting the discussion exist, but it needs its own place. The discussion about front page favoritism and the inevitable defensive responses are clouding up the comments of all of the recent posts (and some olds). I also understand that these hot “debates” bring traffic to the blog, but a reader isn’t going to want to scroll through hundreds of arguing comments on every post. It’s clouding the reputation of ECO.

    That said, FP favoritism definitely exists. But it doesn’t last. Some people have their 15 minutes of fame, some have it ten times a day, and some have it every day. The fact is that in due time, their fame shall pass. It is sad that some shops have bribed admin in the past, but daniellexo admitted in the VLabs once when dozens of random shops were in for a seller chat that she has no control over the FP. Now, that won’t keep her from featuring a fav or two in her Finds articles. But it is also sad that the admittance of a potential bribe from one shop clouds the reputation of any other shop that makes the FP more than once a day.

    If you want to stalk the comments of this blog and the FP favorites’ twitter accounts… go ahead. That’s your choice. But how is it causing change? Do the personal attacks quiet the range you feel against Etsy for their favoritism? Does it get your shops (or if you don’t have a shop… your friend’s or family’s shops) on the FP more? No.

  114. JK May 16, 2010 at 7:12 am #

    Indeed, Uh-huh. When people have the ability to fix issues that cause problems but choose not to do so, it makes me wonder if they benefit in some way from the issues being allowed to continue.

  115. GucciBooty May 16, 2010 at 7:13 am #

    Get a room, maybe a padded one.
    I want to read this blog as a callout against resellers and people I can flag. I know, I said I wouldn’t flag again, but I will if I see the undoubtable here.
    Scrolling down through personal attacks against legit sellers is a cat fight I really don’t want to read, much less join,
    Please let’s call out the resellers, like there aren’t enough of them to go around with out resorting to this petty bullshit?

  116. sleeping cat beads May 16, 2010 at 8:41 am #

    What the fuck. I leave this blog for a day and wow.

    I am no Polestar fan but you know what? Fuck you for judging her for drinking wine and tweeting on a Friday night. And fuck you for questioning her parenting skills.

    When you’re (universal you’re) a parent come back and tell us how fabulous your Friday nights are, how expensive your wines are, or how you “never” drink anymore because you’re now a “good” parent *cough*.

    That is stupid judgmental petty bitchiness and has nothing to do with etsy.

  117. Stephica May 16, 2010 at 9:17 am #

    Let me say this, I really don’t agree with the insulting. I laughed at the wine Tweets because as I and others have mentioned, the treasury mafia {treasury incest?} makes comments about how I’m high and mentally ill because I bought pipes {thanks for keeping that purchase history active Etsy!} and don’t have a boyfriend {that one made us both laugh}.

    And yes, my SO and other friends have Etsy shops. That doesn’t make me a sockpuppet on the Etsy forums PoleStar. It also doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to speak up without PoleStarTHREATENING my SO’s shop.

    PoleStar whines about someone stalking you yet you had no moral qualms finding a picture of me on Flickr, threatening me on Etsy about it and then posting it here anonymously.

  118. GlitzGlitter May 16, 2010 at 9:31 am #

    Stephica, I highly doubt Polestar posted whatever. She is not much of an anonymous poster. There are so many other issues on etsy, curators featuring their other 2 shops in a treasury and it making the front page, curator repetition, resellers, ridiculous mistagging, title stuffers. And I have seen so many more overexposed sellers that have 205 FPs under their belt, but maybe 150 sales? Why not turn the topic to beating up on the people that deserve it? As far as favoritism goes, I agree! It is ridiculous! Most of the fault lies with Admin, shouldn’t they be getting the lickings:?

  119. Stephica May 16, 2010 at 9:45 am #

    Glitz, PoleStar may not have posted those links here, but I find it hard to believe as she threatened to do so in the Etsy forums as the links were being posted here. At the very least she was complicit.

    As for the front page, I agree, the admins are lazy. However, when the people featured on the FP constantly go apeshit whenever someone brings up the topic of change or points out they’ve been on there, they become just as guilty as the admins themselves.

    I honestly thought no one would notice that initial treasury I made. I was astounded by the hostility and vitriol it received. I also found it naive that people call me a hypocrite for acting nice in the treasury comments. A) of course I did, if I did anything else it would be “calling out” and B) ambivalent sarcasm in written word on the Internet is hilarious.

    One last thing, I am really writing a paper. I’ve written on the shittiness of the Blackboard company’s CMS in the past among other online topics.

  120. GlitzGlitter May 16, 2010 at 9:50 am #

    I truly have no problems with you personally, Stephica. I hope your paper goes great, and whoever it was that attacked you sucks for doing so.

    I lurk on this blog all the time because I honestly agree with most of it. It just seems that hating sellers because they are ridiculously overfeatured isn’t really the solution. The problem is admin. If I were as lazy at my day job (before I left ) I would’ve gotten fired. They must like the discord they sow, or they just don’t give a crap.

  121. Stephica May 16, 2010 at 9:56 am #

    Thank you Glitz, I appreciate it.

    I’ve actually been working on a proposal that will help the frontpage represent more people/teams while keeping quality high and allowing the admins to continue to focus on other things.

  122. Amy May 16, 2010 at 10:10 am #

    totally agree with jenmaestre – I’d like to see this blog go back to its routes and stick to calling out people i can flag – for good reason. That’s why I like this blog. This other stuff belongs somewhere else.

  123. sleeping cat beads May 16, 2010 at 10:17 am #

    Stephica, I agree that the posting anything about your being high because of your purchase history is bullshit too. Who cares – who even cares if you do smoke pot?

    I think the Polestar stuff got me because I’m a mom, lol.

  124. Life During Wartime May 16, 2010 at 10:23 am #

    I grabbed a couple dozen obvious reseller, possible reseller, and general flea market of illegal items shops this morning from Pounce.

    If I post them here, they will disappear in the drama.

    I have to wonder if Etsy chooses outspoken sellers for obvious favoritism when things get hairy as one means of misdirecting its critics away from the problem. The powers-that-be at Etsy are giggling with relief right now over their cupcake brunch.

    ECO has for all intents and purposes been down now for about 2 days. Worse than being down for censorship or tech issues with WordPress where the blog owner would just move it to Blogger for the duration.

    Of course there is a problem with favoritism on Etsy. Yes, I am fed up with the repetitious ‘trends’ and lame promotional themes. There have always been ways to prevent over-exposure of certain items and shops in features, and prevent a Treasury mafia/cartel from taking partial control — you automatically limit Treasury activity by item ID, shop ID and curator ID to so many treasuries per year. And have the limits apply to staff curated FPs as well. Instant variety among curators, featured shops, and items chosen. But girls don’t play that way; game theory works differently among mostly women than among men and/or more mixed gender groups.

  125. blood, sweat and tears May 16, 2010 at 10:46 am #

    i agree with guccibooty, a dozen flags a day i try to do. some i find on my own through my personal knowledge of what’s commercial, some from here, some reading between the lines on the forums.

    btw what happened with the missing topic on fathers day fail….another wp censorship thing?

  126. ginger May 16, 2010 at 11:10 am #

    Well, I’ll just throw this in here, as I did on the previous thread–the five or six people who seem to make every post into a bitchfest about the same sellers that they dislike are running this blog into the ground. I can’t take seriously a place that’s become all name-calling and finger-pointing and bizarrely judgmental twitter-stalking. Enough already.

    I’d also like to point out that no matter how much certain buyers think that the forums are the be-all and end-all of Etsy, I highly doubt that someone like Polestar feels any effect from her forum personality. She may have lost *your* sale, or one from your many, many Etsy buyer friends, but for myself, and for most high-volume sellers I’ve talked to, sales don’t come from the forums. They come from new buyers, from outside links, from all over the place, but they don’t come from the forums. In my experience, very few buyers know that the forums even exist, and aren’t interested in them in the first place. Telling someone with as many sales as Polestar has that her shop could really “take flight” if she were nicer on the forums is absurd.

  127. GucciBooty May 16, 2010 at 11:51 am #

    Cease AND desist, please. Let’s pick on the resellers.

  128. imwithya May 16, 2010 at 12:34 pm #

    Amen.

  129. Life During Wartime May 16, 2010 at 12:55 pm #

    Okay, reseller on FP right now, Etsy curated:
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/TwilightDistinction

    I recognized the movable fangs sterling ring in their shop from various sellers on the web. Here a couple of disabled links:

    https ://id3469.securedata.net/necromance/catalogue.php?category=rings

    and

    http ://fionasfrightshoppe.ecrater.com/

    Shop Annoucement mentions they work with silversmiths that are not the owner of the shop.

    Oh, and the copyright violation is sleazy.

    Another Violations Sunday on Etsy, brought to you by SCAM (Staff Chosen and Manufactured) marketplace integrity.

  130. GucciBooty May 16, 2010 at 1:05 pm #

    The Content Team is a figment of someone’s imagination. They don’t know……….content.

  131. GucciBooty May 16, 2010 at 1:07 pm #

    It has been a long collaborative effort to bring this ring into existence. We’ve worked with the Bella Twilight studios and Rapunzels Gold employing silversmith skills that only the pictures can describe.

    why I think collectives are a black hole of partial lies. I would never buy from a collaborative or collective: Where does the Buck Stop?

  132. factorygirlashli May 16, 2010 at 1:26 pm #

    just saw something from this shop in “recently listed items” on the FP.

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/jclanich169

    admits that items are “new” and “collectibles”. Although I have no links to prove that these items are being resold (they may POSSIBLY be vintage)…. at the very least we have some mistagging going on.

    no feedback, no profile, no sales, no shop policies.

  133. Etsy Person May 16, 2010 at 1:51 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/jclanich169

    What a bunch of crap in this store! I am sure you can buy “fossilized” ivory items for $25 a pop.

  134. Em May 16, 2010 at 1:53 pm #

    Are those things in jclanich’s shop even worth that much? Those are some pretty hefty pricetags, especially with no policies. I don’t know anything about vintage but that seems a bit outrageous to me.

  135. itsastitch May 16, 2010 at 2:07 pm #

    How about this entire shop?
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/JessicaBlvd

  136. WTFISAPDF May 16, 2010 at 2:23 pm #

    Avon calling- on Etsy. That’s just too much for me

  137. factorygirlashli May 16, 2010 at 2:36 pm #

    Em Says:
    May 16, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Are those things in jclanich’s shop even worth that much? Those are some pretty hefty pricetags, especially with no policies. I don’t know anything about vintage but that seems a bit outrageous to me.

    __________

    tagged as “art” not “vintage”.

  138. Em May 16, 2010 at 3:05 pm #

    Ah, I guess I didn’t look at the tags. I just got that from her announcement and the subtitle that says “vintage antiques and collectibles”

    :/

  139. Life During Wartime May 16, 2010 at 3:15 pm #

    I don’t know much about the kinds of items jclanich169 is selling. But there are a few things that bother me about what the shop is and how the items are being sold.

    The numbers in the photos suggest the seller is not the owner of the items, but an estate liquidator hired to sell the stuff. I could be wrong, but it looks like an auctioneer.

    All of the bronzes should have some sort of name for each piece at those price points so collectors interested in buying them can compare this shop’s prices with established values.

    None of the ethnic art collectibles really have anything like provenance in the descriptions. Saying stuff like ‘bought in the 1950s so it’s pre-ban ivory’ doesn’t say much. Do the pieces date from the 1950s? The 20th Century? 19th Century? What tribe? Location? What?

    No collector in their right mind would buy from this shop. It looks too much like a small-time hustler looking for a cheaper version of Ebay… one that has the reputation of having an affluent but undiscriminating buyer base.

    Danger, danger, Will Robinson!

  140. Life During Wartime May 16, 2010 at 3:24 pm #

    Another look at jclanich169:

    The description for the erotic netsuke is partly copy-pasted from Wikipedia without credit or a link.

    The appraiser is not named, nor do the listings offer to email or fax a prospective buyer a copy of the appraisal.

    From the announcement: ” I have no problem listing under special listings for privately own/liquidation(s). ”

    Wait…I thought YOU were the owner of these items? Are you or not?

  141. detroit May 16, 2010 at 3:46 pm #

    I agree personal attacks are uncalled for, and personally, have tried to abstain from them.

    That being said – I think FP favoritism is a relevant issue, and I hope, going forward, can be discussed maturely.

    It would be a shame to drop it because some people feel it’s ‘mean’. It has nothing to do with the stores, and everything to do with the idiocy of Etsy admin.

  142. detroit May 16, 2010 at 3:50 pm #

    Andrea said:
    “Detroit, I have no doubt that many etsy shops that are featured are often better than people who complain in the forums about not being featured. It’s not true in all cases, but in many cases people are selling products that others just don’t want to buy, or are photographed poorly, or have poor craftsmanship, or whatever. That is why I ask for specific shop links. Not much has been nice in this thread, I don’t think my comment was the worst by far.”

    THIS. ^^^ Is what I’m talking about as being really obnoxious.

    Can you all stop with the jealousy BS already??? That’s half of what inflames people!

    The FP people (some of them) are indeed talented. But so are THOUSANDS of other Etsy sellers.

    You mean to tell me of the tens of THOUSANDS of stores on Etsy, only a handful have nice items, and good pictures? Really?

    PS, not only do I NOT have a store, but I don’t have any friends who do either. So you all can stop with the ‘jealous’ BS right now.

    I know that there is all sorts of amazingly creative, avante guard, beautiful items that are simply buried by Etsy’s FP favoritism.

  143. factorygirlashli May 16, 2010 at 4:00 pm #

    psst… Detroit.. we were on such a roll getting back on topic!

    we’re talking about resellers now. 🙂

  144. Etsy Person May 16, 2010 at 4:31 pm #

    Are those things in jclanich’s shop even worth that much? Those are some pretty hefty pricetags, especially with no policies. I don’t know anything about vintage but that seems a bit outrageous to me.

    _________
    Short answer – no. If any of the ivory items are real, they would be worth more than what she is asking considering the demand for Native American crafts. I think we are seeing a bunch of leftovers from someone’s old collectible store.

  145. crapitycrap May 16, 2010 at 5:12 pm #

    On the FP right now

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/46750280/4-cups-and-square-saucers-french-find?ref=fp_feat_7

    Guess I’ll go list some of my Ikea stuff now.
    GRRR!

  146. Life During Wartime May 16, 2010 at 5:34 pm #

    ^^^ And they are listed as handmade/houseware…merde.

  147. WTFISAPDF May 16, 2010 at 5:42 pm #

    Description
    Four lovely retro looking little coffee cups with saucers from the French mark LBVYR.

    The cups are oval and the saucers square and they are in perfect condition, no scratches, pieces missing…

    The colors are blue, green, orange and pink.

    Please notice that they are not really old!!! but they have this retro feel to them.

    The set of four is safely shipped in bubbly foil and a carton box.

    Because the shipmentcosts are awfully high, I only added France and Europe to the shipmentprofile for these cups. Shipment outside of Europe will be 20$. If you are really interested, please convo me so I can add the shipmentcosts for ‘rest of the world’.

    Merci!

    —————————————–

    Does anyone friggin look beyond the pretty pictures? This seller states they aren’t really old. WTF. I think I’ll list my dog. He’s not really old either.

  148. jcjohn May 16, 2010 at 5:55 pm #

    “retro looking”——–not enough of a clue.

  149. Sarah May 16, 2010 at 6:00 pm #

    I saw that same ring from TwilightDistinction on another FP collection recently I think (one that was all Twilight). Their shop announcement is all about thanking their customers for being patient while they were out dealing with technical problems. Sounds like perhaps they survived a round of flagging and Etsy’s version of a legitimacy check.

  150. jcjohn May 16, 2010 at 6:10 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/47035282/vintage-jewelry-triple-strand-bracelet

    this listing seems misleading—-as a buyer, I would think I’m buying a vintage bracelet—-(except of course, the toggle gave it away)

  151. WTFISAPDF May 16, 2010 at 6:15 pm #

    This is on the front page right now. Check out the shop announcement. If you don’t have an Etsy account, you can email her and she’ll send you a Paypal invoice. Fee avoidance.
    And on the front page.
    Don’t they have literacy volunteers in Brooklyn?

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/46978618/pale-gray-dot-stereo-headphones?ref=fp_feat_10

  152. divide and conquer May 16, 2010 at 6:33 pm #

    GlitzGlitter Says:
    The problem is admin. If I were as lazy at my day job (before I left ) I would’ve gotten fired. They must like the discord they sow, or they just don’t give a crap.

    Life During Wartime Says:
    I have to wonder if Etsy chooses outspoken sellers for obvious favoritism when things get hairy as one means of misdirecting its critics away from the problem. The powers-that-be at Etsy are giggling with relief right now over their cupcake brunch.
    —————–
    This.
    Admin likes it when they can turn users against each other.
    The more we fight eachother, the more it distracts people from criticizing admins.
    Admin features the same shop 4 times in one afternoon, and everyone asks, which shop? Quick, let’s boycott them.
    Wrong target.
    In a way, Admins throw the favorites under a bus by featuring them too often because the favorites take all the heat for that even though they don’t control it.

    If you are featured often:
    You probably have a great shop. Please understand that the anti-repetition people, (most of them), are not attacking you personally. Acknowledge that constant repetition is a real issue. Repetition is boring even if it was fucking Pablo Picasso on the FP 5 times a day. If I dislike repetition it doesn’t mean I think the favorite shops suck. Please avoid getting defensive and whatever you do, DON’T imply that anyone who isn’t an admin favorite is just jealous of you, has crappy items and photos.
    I have really respected some Admin favorites who say “I am featured a lot and I do get sales from it, but I’d like to see more variety too.”

    If you are never featured OR if you are a buyer who dislikes repetition:
    Please don’t attack oft-repeated shops. Most of them have done nothing wrong. Let’s keep the focus and the heat on ADMINS who choose the shops and the themes to feature.

    Both sides: Can we keep it above the belt?
    What someone drinks, smokes, eats or sleeps with should be off limits. People’s kids and appearance are off limits.

  153. Amused May 16, 2010 at 9:29 pm #

    Etsy fail, same seller is on FP twice right now. Nothing against the seller, but Etsy, really?????? Do your jobs.

  154. Stephica May 16, 2010 at 10:03 pm #

    I saw that too Amused, and it was because I was interested in the seller’s name and the delicious product they were offering (big tea fan here).

    Serious lack of professionalism on the behalf of Etsy staff, do they just not care or do they genuinely not notice? Not sure which is worse.

  155. Amused May 16, 2010 at 11:18 pm #

    Now, the curator of the treasury on the FP is in the FP treasury. See, this is not attacking the people on the FP but instead, the blatent ineptitude of Etsy employees unable to follow their own rules.

    Also, nothing against Polestar but again????

    For those who wish to attack me, I remind you of the tagline
    “Calling out blatant mistaggers, resellers, and other hot topics since admin won’t let us.”

    Yes, recent hot topic for sure. Admin is worthy of a call out on all of this.

    Oh, and just so I keep with the program I will re-post this piece of crap that is still there.
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/JessieJewelry

  156. Cock O' the Block May 17, 2010 at 5:02 am #

    Its not against the rules to put one item of your own in a treasury…

  157. windyR May 17, 2010 at 5:22 am #

    Several posts ago KainKain was called out. They are on the front page right now – a black pillow with a lovely white embroidered pattern on it. I wouldn’t have thought twice about this until I noticed the ridiculously low price, and then I noticed the company name and recalled the previous thread on this blog. So I guess all the flagging was for naught.

  158. uh-huh May 17, 2010 at 5:39 am #

    Cock O’ the Block Says:
    “Its not against the rules to put one item of your own in a treasury…”

    Obviously not. However, admin has stated repeatedly that the item will be switched out if the Treasury is elevated to FP. Usually they DO remove the item so when one slips through to FP that is not fair to ALL the other curators’ items they did remove. Of course life isn’t fair but this is something that takes less than 2 milliseconds to notice and handle.
    Either do it one way or the other. Be consistent.
    Admin has great consistency in their inconsistency.

  159. MadeByM**** May 17, 2010 at 7:28 am #

    So, what do you all think of the new “feature”…..suggested favorites?

    I checked out my list…….funny how a few of them I have flagged for tag abuse and reselling!

  160. Cat Power May 17, 2010 at 7:59 am #

    Initially I thought that the “suggested favorites” was going to be a repeat of the old one they had, that was never used. But I spent some time yesterday looking at all my 20 pages of suggestions and actually found some new shops that i favorited and items from others that I hearted.

    So it isn’t quite as bad as I had imagined. Not that I’ll be perusing it on a daily basis, or even weekly, but it might serve to get some shops seen that we might not go searching for, even though they may be super sellers.

  161. CockADoodleDoo May 17, 2010 at 8:14 am #

    Vent:

    If you write up some “business advice” or shop advice or whatever and drop a link to your blog, I think that is Promotion and the post should be moved accordingly. I am so tired of the thinly veiled promos.

    If you are truly giving advice without an alterior motive, fine.

    /rant

  162. Bedazzled VONdom May 17, 2010 at 8:50 am #

    Fake WEISS a plenty. Not twenty year old fake WEISS. New fake WEISS crap and some generic dollar tree crap.

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/VerneandLuther?section_id=6818600

    Ridiculous schtick too. Who the hell wants to buy fake vintage jewelry from the dirty mitts of faux winos? Perhaps their recent announcement demonstrates an awakening to that conundrum.

    Linked shops are interesting too. As is their Twitter.

  163. Amused May 17, 2010 at 9:22 am #

    Cock O’ the Block Says:
    “Its not against the rules to put one item of your own in a treasury…”

    uh-huh Says:
    Obviously not. However, admin has stated repeatedly that the item will be switched out if the Treasury is elevated to FP. Usually they DO remove the item so when one slips through to FP that is not fair to ALL the other curators’ items they did remove.
    ———————————–
    Thank you uh-huh. That is why I said nothing against the seller themself if you read the post Cock O.

  164. CockADoodleDoo May 17, 2010 at 9:31 am #

    I did read it. No harm. Chill. And frankly, I have less of a problem with a curators treasury ending up on the FP with their own item (assuming it meets the TOU) than the same sellers over and over OR resellers being on the FP.

    And finally, there is no way in hell Etsy will ever be completely equal to all sellers. So the whole “one slips thru so its not fair to all of the other curators in the history of etsy who’ve been removed” doesn’t really fly with me.

    In all honestly, I could’t give two tosses of the old chub about the whole FP. I want etsy to grow a set and be more aggressive about removing resellers. That is why I read this blog.

  165. Amused May 17, 2010 at 9:52 am #

    CockADoodleDoo Says:

    I did read it. No harm. Chill. And frankly, I have less of a problem with a curators treasury ending up on the FP with their own item (assuming it meets the TOU) than the same sellers over and over OR resellers being on the FP.
    —————————-
    Unless you also post as Cock O’ the block, why would you think that was directed at you? Sheesh.
    I’m done.

  166. CockADoodleDoo May 17, 2010 at 10:09 am #

    I do. See, its a variation on a theme. And I think most folks here realize that.

    I am also John Cocktoasten.

  167. detroit May 17, 2010 at 10:14 am #

    CockADoodleDoo Says:

    “If you are truly giving advice without an alterior motive, fine.”
    ____________________________________

    There are so many ‘cocks’ around here – I can’t keep them straight.

    While we’re venting, it’s ‘ULTERIOR motive’. Not sure if ‘alterior’ is even a word?

    Where do people get these things? lol. And, doesn’t their browser highlight typos as they go?

    Sorry, I’m anal about grammar and spelling. Though mine is often riddled with errors too. Feel free to correct me.

    I do have a feeling that the flood of unedited writing on the internet is actually propagating misspelling, malapropisms, and poor grammar though. I’m seeing the same errors cropping up like a plague!

    /rant

  168. WTFISAPDF May 17, 2010 at 10:50 am #

    Ulterior is one of the most commonly misspelled words in the English language. Probably has a lot to do with it being pronounced incorrectly by so many. A lot of people say “all” instead of “ull”

  169. MadeByM**** May 17, 2010 at 11:04 am #

    This is one of my favorite sites to go to when you’re not sure of a word…….

    http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html#errors

  170. doodette May 17, 2010 at 11:16 am #

    What I don’t get is why the internet hasn’t improved spelling since you can LOOK THE DAMN WORD UP RIGHT AWAY.

    hee hee

  171. detroit May 17, 2010 at 11:26 am #

    Oh, and sorry Mr. Cocktoasten. I didn’t mean to pick on you specifically. I’m just anal.

    My own DH says – nu-CYUH-lear. Adds that mysterious extra syllable. Drives me insane. I think it may be grounds for divorce – lol. If he ever starts saying LI-BARRY, I’ll file the paperwork, hee hee.

    Also, I’ve started to see “rediculous”, a lot lately online. As well as the usual aneurysm-inducer – “alot”.

  172. detroit May 17, 2010 at 11:27 am #

    Oh yeah, and “discusting”.

    I have no idea where people got that spelling. And I’ve seen it crop up everywhere lately.

    Those discusting resellers! Its just rediculous Etsy allows alot of there shops to stay open!

  173. WTFISAPDF May 17, 2010 at 11:33 am #

    I love all the fourm posts that say, “How do I get SELLS on here” or “I had a SELL today.”

  174. Etsy Person May 17, 2010 at 11:34 am #

    There is a book called “the Alphabet vs the Goddess” which talks about how we once were visual then went to a written alphabet and how it made brain changes. The author then discusses how things are going to change all the more because of the Internet. And they are. For some reason, people cannot spell correctly even with the automatic spell check programs embedded into most online forms/blogs etc. Such as this one.
    I have to leave now to go to the liberrry with some fo winos and other reel winos. Ta ta!

  175. detroit May 17, 2010 at 11:38 am #

    Golly – ECO is great for procrastinating.

    And another thing! Speaking of forum drama. The Etsy forum is chock full of errors like those mentioned above.

    And, sadly, it seems to be the Americans and native English speakers who are making them.

    Many of the foreigners / ESL people have admirable, even immaculate English.

    Probably because while, when growing up they were busy studying English, the Americans were busy watching TV and playing video games.

    I’ve seen some of the most xenophobic, racist, anti-immigrant stuff posted in the forums… often written by people with horrible command of ‘their’ own language.

    Another reason the forums can get people in trouble. I’ve seen some really mean spirited things posted there. Do people not realize Etsy is an international site? And that people from all over the world can read their ignorant comments?

    I know some people hate the concept of DNBF lists. But, if I see someone posting racist, ignorant crap, you can believe I am happy to add them to my list!

    Okay – gonna go do some work now. I’ll be thinking of more off topic things to post next – lol!

  176. Life During Wartime May 17, 2010 at 11:38 am #

    Not even 10 years ago, media spokesmodels and other talking heads used a fairly neutral accent. Listening to ads or teevee programs now, I hear a lot of things like MEER for MIRROR and PERDICK for PREDICT. We seem to have a bunch of attractive Texas gals reading our local (NE US) news, and only one has learned to say GET rather than GIT. It’s like an invasion of Lena LaMont clones “Tawk? Of course we tawk! Whaddya think we’re dum or sumthin’?”

    If people type what they hear now, it’s probably wrong.

  177. JK May 17, 2010 at 11:47 am #

    ‘Sells’ for ‘sales’, ‘rediculous’ and ‘discusting’ are right up there with ‘chai tea’ when it comes to misuse/misspellings of words that make me twitch with irritation.

    Also, why is it that so many people are unable to distinguish between buyer and seller? I see so many posts in the forums where ‘seller’ is used when the context makes it clear that it’s a buyer being discussed. Don’t get it at all.

  178. WTFISAPDF May 17, 2010 at 11:47 am #

    The media does a great job messing up the word “nuclear”. They have different variations of pronunciation.

    I sorely miss Tom Brokaw and Peter Jennings. They were the kings of changing the pronunciation of words. Once they did it, everyone else followed.

  179. PussDaddy May 17, 2010 at 12:00 pm #

    Maybe you could live on the FP like peaseblossombitchio if you learned to pucker up better and slap a lip lock on admin ass

    http://pussdaddyblogs.blogspot.com/2010/05/maybe-you-could-live-on-etsys-front.html

  180. CockADoodleDoo May 17, 2010 at 12:07 pm #

    No offense taken. I misspelled a word. You noticed. Meh. We all have our things. Taint the end of the world, hon. I am too old to get worked up over the small stuff.

    As for the OP, a couple are gone! Yippee for ECO.

  181. CockADoodleDoo May 17, 2010 at 12:09 pm #

    Re #162 Bedazzled, I’ve felt there was something hinky about that shop since I saw them in the forums. Its the same feeling I got when Nuttermeg popped up….

  182. Stephica May 17, 2010 at 12:14 pm #

    The incompetent and incredible lazy Etsy staff member who made the Etsy curated FP just put a fucking TwilightDistinction ring on the FP again

    So the staff who does the FP is a secret, right? Because I think we can figure out who at least one of them is. Twice now on a late Sunday night there have been “Dark fairytale” inspired treasuries that are really Twilight fucking treasuries.

    What staff is working at that time? Do we know of any staff that are Twitards?

  183. Etsy Person May 17, 2010 at 12:18 pm #

    While we are discussing words, how about “busted”? I do not mean old hippie language. I mean “broken”. I see “busted” used in news articles all the time when the author means “broken”. Idiotic.
    As for racist dialog in the forums, I would have to agree. When one group of people can break the law and we are told to ignore it because of their racial background (which really isn’t a race but just an ethnic group), I would say thats pretty racist in itself. Promoting one group with special privileges ahead of others is very, very racist.

  184. detroit May 17, 2010 at 12:57 pm #

    Oh bueno, another one for my DNBF list!^^

    ******************************************

    Stephica:
    Yes – it seems that the FP selection process is shrouded in rumor and secrecy. Good idea to investigate. Perhaps a topic for its own post here? “Methods by which the FP items are selected.”

    There must be some guidelines the staff follow. And there must be certain people in charge / delegating. Anyone know any more about this?
    *************************************
    John Cocktoasten – You are a great reseller sleuth. I still love your contributions, to this place, and to the English language (kidding ; )

  185. detroit May 17, 2010 at 12:59 pm #

    Made by M – cool link. Off to look. Then I’ll finish my workday!

  186. Stephica May 17, 2010 at 1:47 pm #

    Sorry about using the term twitard by the way. I personally have a very strong aversion to Twilight but that isn’t the problem here and I don’t want to alienate anyone who happens to like Twilight but hates resellers. I also should be using the term “tard” and didn’t consider it when I typed it the word out.

  187. Stephica May 17, 2010 at 1:55 pm #

    *shouldn’t be using.

  188. CockADoodleDoo May 17, 2010 at 2:00 pm #

    Awwww…thanks detroit. *blush* I can spell, I just can’t proofread well. lol

  189. GucciBooty May 17, 2010 at 3:21 pm #

    Here are some shit to look at, all listed as handmade:

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/46843568/christian-louboutin-fashion-classic

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/36763052/sale-luxe-like-new-vintage-authentic

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/47356933/hello-kitty-purple-purse

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/47352470/vintage-cincin-leather-shoes-sling-back

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/47225351/vintage-orange-red-and-green-scarf-by

    EVERY SINGLE PIECE IS MIS CATEGORIZED AS HANDMADE. Nobody reads the shitty directions on how to tag, because the INSTRUCTIONS SUCK. If anyone working at Etsy would fix this by limiting the drop down to handmade, vintage, supplies this shit would not be EVERYWHERE in every single category, fucking up the search royally,
    BUT it’s only been on their radar for 5 years. Fuck them, they have no concept of how to communicate so that people can actually complete the most important step in listing an item for sale.
    This proves to me that whether something sells or not, Etsy DOES NOT CARE. They get their twenty cents, and that’s the plan. I HATE that these staff people are so incredibly opaque.

  190. Not Surprised May 17, 2010 at 5:27 pm #

    Etsy’s Treasury East… http://www.etsy.com/treasury/
    This seems to be a “hot issue” in the forums any thoughts?

  191. ananemone May 17, 2010 at 5:35 pm #

    My thoughts about treasury east: major clusterfuck.

    I think admin did not think it through. No one thought : hey, if things stay a while and get popular, the sex stuff will win out because people are interested, surely Admin doesn’t really want that representing Etsy as a whole on the front page of the Treasury over and over and over.

    But more than that, I have no incentive to go look through them anymore because there are just too damned many.

    Not that I have a problem with the mature products, treasuries, whatever – I just think Etsy as a company/brand is not looking for that to start dominating their image.

  192. PussDaddy May 17, 2010 at 5:44 pm #

    Bedazzled VONdom Says:
    May 17, 2010 at 8:50 am
    Fake WEISS a plenty. Not twenty year old fake WEISS. New fake WEISS crap and some generic dollar tree crap.

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/VerneandLuther?section_id=6818600

    Ridiculous schtick too. Who the hell wants to buy fake vintage jewelry from the dirty mitts of faux winos? Perhaps their recent announcement demonstrates an awakening to that conundrum.

    Linked shops are interesting too. As is their Twitter

    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

    As a buyer shit like this pisses me off and it is one reason I have just cave in and started buying stuff in store nows more than I do on Etsy.

  193. WTFISAPDF May 17, 2010 at 7:13 pm #

    Not Surprised Says:
    May 17, 2010 at 5:27 pm
    Etsy’s Treasury East… http://www.etsy.com/treasury/
    This seems to be a “hot issue” in the forums any thoughts?
    —————————————————

    The treasury is giving a good glimpse of how many sellers aren’t using the “mature” rule.
    The ass in this resellers shop is a bit too much. Oh yes, my fat ass is in this handmade g- string. Oh yeah, sure they’re handmade. Just like the face cream with too many ingredients to list in the all too familiar jar.
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/40363303/pearl-and-lace-g-string-thong?ref=v1_other_2

  194. CockADoodleDoo May 17, 2010 at 7:13 pm #

    Etsy doesn’t care about how its seen or its brand. If they did, this blog (and others like it) would not exist.

  195. sick of cupcakes May 17, 2010 at 7:48 pm #

    T East is a joke. Who the hell wants to wade through thousands of treasuries. People were whining because they couldn’t make more than 20 at a time.

  196. WTFISAPDF May 17, 2010 at 7:48 pm #

    Not Surprised Says:
    May 17, 2010 at 5:27 pm
    Etsy’s Treasury East… http://www.etsy.com/treasury/
    This seems to be a “hot issue” in the forums any thoughts?
    —————————————————
    My comment with a link to a reseller shop is awaiting moderation.

    The treasury is giving a good glimpse of how many sellers aren’t using the “mature” rule.
    The ass in this resellers shop is a bit too much. Oh yeah, my fat ass is in this handmade g- string. Oh yeah, sure they’re handmade. Just like the face cream with too many ingredients to list in the all too familiar jar.

    It’s on the first page of the treasuries. The shop name is Hydrate.

  197. Em May 17, 2010 at 8:10 pm #

    Holy shit.. I thought you guys were just talking about that one treasury with the carved penises… I went to look to see what all the fuss was about…

    It is really sad that people are doing this just to get people to look and to rise on the ‘hotness’ scale. Once in a while is funny, but this is an immature trend.

  198. blood, sweat and tears May 17, 2010 at 8:16 pm #

    http://jessiesjewelryshop.blogspot.com/

    according to this she was a high school senior this year? and a stay at home mom of two making rings suspiciously similar to indian and bali products. look how many listings she has….sorry, i have been a sahm of two and no way could i produce that for the cost and that quantity. what a liar…..

    talking about jessie’s jewelry link above.

    sometimes i type lying down in bed sideways and my typos are hard to correct, but i try.

  199. blood, sweat and tears May 17, 2010 at 8:22 pm #

    oops disregard, two too similar shops! or shop names, please disregard!!! the one referenced above my post though is definitely a reseller.

  200. Amused May 17, 2010 at 8:40 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/JessieJewelry

  201. boots May 17, 2010 at 9:23 pm #

    ah return of the dark fairy FP

  202. Stephica May 17, 2010 at 9:36 pm #

    Every Monday at the same time.

  203. NA May 17, 2010 at 9:51 pm #

    Some loser just twittered to Martha Stewart the link for Treasury East “Martha, look what Etsy is doing now” or some nonsense; b/c of all the mature listings there.

    What the frig is Martha going to do? She had on the Regretsy author! SO ridiculous.

    Its as if the mature art immediately negates everything else on the site. While she’s at it, might as well twitter all the copyright infringement too. Idiot.

  204. crazy cat lady May 17, 2010 at 10:00 pm #

    if people cared about resellers like they care about penises, imagine what etsy would look like…wow. Imagine the pearl clutching in the forums about resellers ruining etsy’s image!

    And someone emailed Martha? Idiot. I can’t stand Martha Stewart.

  205. NA May 17, 2010 at 10:06 pm #

    not just once – TWICE. Its on her twitter feed! Its laughable how stupid it is. “Ratting” Etsy out to Martha Stewart. Is she going to revoke Etsy’s card carrying craft status??

  206. jenn May 18, 2010 at 3:47 am #

    The treasury doesn’t surprise me a bit – it’s just like all those ‘break the title filter’ posts in etc.

    I don’t get it, but it makes some people happy to be outrageous like that. Human nature I guess.

    My very very favorite treasury was the one (last year?) that featured many listings of the exact same necklace – a little letter that came out of an envelope.
    Priceless.

  207. WTFISAPDF May 18, 2010 at 3:49 am #

    Em Says:
    May 17, 2010 at 8:10 pm
    Holy shit.. I thought you guys were just talking about that one treasury with the carved penises… I went to look to see what all the fuss was about…

    It is really sad that people are doing this just to get people to look and to rise on the ‘hotness’ scale. Once in a while is funny, but this is an immature trend.

    ———————————————-
    It’s like a whole bunch of Etsians just reached puberty.

  208. sick of cupcakes May 18, 2010 at 4:40 am #

    They act like pubescent girls the way they fawn all over bomobob on the forums.

  209. MadeByM**** May 18, 2010 at 5:59 am #

    There was a forum thread where someone asked if they were a prude because they thought that collection was inappropriate because Etsy can be viewed by people all over the world. Someone brought up about it being a site for adults only. I asked if there was a place to click when your first enter Etsy stating you’re over the age of 18 (like on adult, cigarette, alcohol sites)…everyone thinks just because the TOU’s state you have to be 18 doesn’t mean that stops minors from looking on the site! The naiveté of many Etsy sellers is ridiculous! That’s why they have adult stores specifically for stuff like that………they don’t have a section of it at Walmart or Sears for a reason! Duh!

  210. MadeByM**** May 18, 2010 at 6:05 am #

    Oh, I hate that………..”when your first enter Etsy”………I don’t know where that “r” came from! Should be “when you first enter Etsy”……….sorry Detroit! LOL!

  211. WTFISAPDF May 18, 2010 at 6:18 am #

    The first two magnet in this shop (the happy hooker and the coffee slut) are magnets I have, but they are square not round. The back of the magnet gives the company name and copyright info and I bought them at a little novelty shop in my town. I wonder if these graphics and slogans are in the public domain?

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/picardcreative

  212. boots May 18, 2010 at 6:46 am #

    i had a dream last night about vagina and pregnancy treasuries, no joke!

  213. CockADoodleDoo May 18, 2010 at 8:37 am #

    You know, if anyone could use a deep dicking, Martha is up there.

  214. crazy cat lady May 18, 2010 at 9:19 am #

    “break the title filter” posts I don’t understand. The penis etc. treasuries I understand. Sometimes it’s fun to prove how predictable etsy is!

  215. NA May 18, 2010 at 9:56 am #

    Its ridiculous. Someone should bitchslap the seller that twittered to Martha. Why is she going to care???

    And the people in the forums, ugh. So many righteous, high horse riders. Calling all the mature items gross, that they shouldn’t be on etsy, they bring the site down, low quality & disgusting.

    I am sure most of these women have had some form of sex since they are so concerned about the welfare of their children seeing a penis or vagina. WHY ARE THESE BODY PARTS DISGUSTING? You idiots. You have a vagina. You have had sex with a penis. Do you squeeze your eyes shut & just don’t look at it? And If you think your own body is gross you have serious issues.

  216. WTFISAPDF May 18, 2010 at 10:04 am #

    Wow! From the forum threads, there are a lot of upset people. Of course, what’s offensive to one person isn’t to another. I think that it’s because when you visit the treasuries, it’s all there in your face, not an option.

    It’s just another problem that admin is letting go on far too long.

  217. WTFISAPDF May 18, 2010 at 10:08 am #

    And so many of them are in violation of the TOS, but it goes on and on.

  218. MadeByM**** May 18, 2010 at 10:56 am #

    I’m sure the majority who are up in arms over the penis treasury don’t have issues with penises or sex in general, it’s just in your face, like it was said above. You are supposed to have a CHOICE to look at it……if you don’t want to view that stuff, you should be forewarned. That’s why the TOU’s say the first photo is supposed to indicate mature. Just because it doesn’t bother you, it can bother someone else. Sex used to be an intimate thing between consulting adults. Now, it’s plastered everywhere, especially on Etsy! You go into Etc. and all you see is the word dildo in every title. There are woman that worship their genitals and make genital art and tell you to send a picture and I will sculpt yours into a beautiful piece of art……..I am by no means against sex or body parts…….it just should be MY CHOICE when I want to view it! And the potential of all different kinds of people of different ages and cultural backgrounds may stumble across Etsy and might want to buy something……..buth then they accidently click on the treasury title at the top of the home page and see a whole bunch of dicks and vaginas might scare them right off the site! You are NOT the only ones in this world!

  219. WTFISAPDF May 18, 2010 at 11:01 am #

    I personally don’t like getting mooned by a reseller.

    But look at all the exposure that reseller is getting.

  220. MadeByM**** May 18, 2010 at 11:08 am #

    Some good plays on words, WTFISAPDF! LOL!

  221. Life During Wartime May 18, 2010 at 11:24 am #

    Sex sells. Isn’t pretending not to see the listings which don’t have the required MATURE indication Etsy’s way of encouraging a whole new type of merchant to open shop on the site?

    Not the kind of merchant where you have to state you are 18+, but anything up to that point.

    Have any shops figured out a way to do the worn but not laundered socks and undies yet by calling them some kind of art? There’s a huge market out there!

  222. doodette May 18, 2010 at 11:36 am #

    ooh.. you’re right, soiled panties are the RAGE… they’re ‘home made’ too, because you add your special sauce to them.

  223. WTFISAPDF May 18, 2010 at 12:03 pm #

    Ha, ha! I can’t see the pics in the treasury from my computer at work because the pics won’t get through the porn blocker. Kid you not.

  224. CockADoodleDoo May 18, 2010 at 12:06 pm #

    Mooned by a reseller? Say what? Whatchoo talking about Willis?

  225. WTFISAPDF May 18, 2010 at 12:24 pm #

    This treasury mooner is a reseller

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/Hydrate.

    She does not make those g-strings. And check out her anti-aging cream- too many ingredients to list. Does she know it’s illegal to sell that shit without listing the ingredients?

  226. Life During Wartime May 18, 2010 at 12:48 pm #

    The eye cream listing has ingredients under Materials.

    But she has no Policies or Profile pages.

    And of course we all believe she has a sterile laboratory area in her home where she makes up the creams?

    I have to admit I’m surprised the G-string didn’t make an Etsy currated FP. That thumbnail should be titled The New Face of Etsy.

  227. WTFISAPDF May 18, 2010 at 1:03 pm #

    LDW- the anti-aging cream dealer op is sold via infomercials and the g strings wholesale for anywhere from $3.95 to $7.95, depending what wholesale house.

    And I agree, it is the new face of Etsy!!

  228. boots May 18, 2010 at 1:08 pm #

    omg it so obvious! and if you look close enough it looks like she just lifted the anti-aging sticker off an Oil of Olay bottle

  229. detroit May 18, 2010 at 1:35 pm #

    I never understood those pearl thongs. Granted, I realize they’re not meant for everyday use – despite what the seller says.

    Still, it seems like if you sat down the wrong way, you could really pinch / bruise something!

    And, even if you’re willing to risk cooter damage, they look more goofy than sexy IMO.

    Dunno, maybe I’m just to old and prude to embrace wearing cheap plastic beads sewn to acrylic, and strapped to my hoo-haa.

  230. Stephica May 18, 2010 at 3:17 pm #

    That’s a popular pair of buttocks according to TinEye. Hopefully this link works:

    http://www.tineye.com/search/52e4b9260bda499095ffb12664c769d389deba66

  231. WTFISAPDF May 18, 2010 at 3:55 pm #

    Good sleuthing Stephica! So, she copped her photo from someone else?

    Shouldn’t we be mooning her?

  232. WTFISAPDF May 18, 2010 at 4:00 pm #

    Hey Stephica or one of you brave souls,

    Why don’t you go comment in that treasury and thank the curator for givng a reseller so much exposure!

  233. RocksInMySocks May 18, 2010 at 4:03 pm #

    Post #216 Made by M

    BRAVO!!!

  234. Etsy Person May 18, 2010 at 4:13 pm #

    The first two magnet in this shop (the happy hooker and the coffee slut) are magnets I have, but they are square not round. The back of the magnet gives the company name and copyright info and I bought them at a little novelty shop in my town. I wonder if these graphics and slogans are in the public domain?

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/picardcreative
    ______________
    Don’t know if all the images are in the public domain but most of them are.

  235. Stephica May 18, 2010 at 4:16 pm #

    I reported them and posted the TinEye link in the comments.

    Although I personally find these treasuries hilariously immature and subversive, I can see why people are getting upset, especially when image rules are being violated (ha ha, violated!).

    If the Etsy staff used TinEye on about a quarter of the reported resellers on their website they’d have an open and shut case. s

  236. factorygirlashli May 18, 2010 at 4:17 pm #

    PussDaddy Says:
    May 17, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    Bedazzled VONdom Says:
    May 17, 2010 at 8:50 am
    Fake WEISS a plenty. Not twenty year old fake WEISS. New fake WEISS crap and some generic dollar tree crap.

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/VerneandLuther?section_id=6818600

    Ridiculous schtick too. Who the hell wants to buy fake vintage jewelry from the dirty mitts of faux winos? Perhaps their recent announcement demonstrates an awakening to that conundrum.

    Linked shops are interesting too. As is their Twitter

    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

    As a buyer shit like this pisses me off and it is one reason I have just cave in and started buying stuff in store nows more than I do on Etsy.

    _______________________________

    watch what you say about this shop. when they first started and posted some bogus shit… I tweeted “are you serious?” with a link to the shop. They e-searched themselves and found it. The next thing they did? Threatened me and sexually harrassed me on twitter. I have screenshots. PS Etsy doesn’t care.

    This shop actually reads and understands the TOU’s and will work around them to their advantage.

  237. WTFISAPDF May 18, 2010 at 4:23 pm #

    Some of those treasuries look like a sanitized version of Regretsy.

  238. L May 18, 2010 at 5:44 pm #

    I have 7 hits from here showing on my GA, I hope I have been slagged off good and proper!

  239. detroit May 18, 2010 at 6:00 pm #

    I kinda feel the urge to make a BM when I see that picture (the bent butt with pearl thong). Sexy, non? Urngggg!

  240. Stephica May 18, 2010 at 6:09 pm #

    It would help if you posted your name L. Also, a hit from here doesn’t mean you’ve been insulted, it could mean someone eventually found you through an initial link here. My SO has like a few dozen referrals from Regretsy that way.

    And are you talking about seven hits total or in one day? Because if it is total then that is completely normal.

  241. CockADoodleDoo May 18, 2010 at 6:56 pm #

    Well ding my dangy….

  242. factorygirlashli May 18, 2010 at 7:33 pm #

    ussDaddy Says:
    May 17, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    Bedazzled VONdom Says:
    May 17, 2010 at 8:50 am
    Fake WEISS a plenty. Not twenty year old fake WEISS. New fake WEISS crap and some generic dollar tree crap.

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/VerneandLuther?section_id=6818600

    Ridiculous schtick too. Who the hell wants to buy fake vintage jewelry from the dirty mitts of faux winos? Perhaps their recent announcement demonstrates an awakening to that conundrum.

    Linked shops are interesting too. As is their Twitter

    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

    As a buyer shit like this pisses me off and it is one reason I have just cave in and started buying stuff in store nows more than I do on Etsy.

    ____________

    I posted a response earlier but I don’t see it in the comments, so forgive me if this double posts.

    Be careful what you say about this seller. When they first started selling their bogus shit on Etsy, I tweeted “Is this for real?” with a shop link on twitter. They e-searched themselves… found my tweet… and they decided to threaten and sexually harass me via twitter. I have screenshots. Etsy doesn’t care… I haven’t messed with reporting it to twitter…

    So anyways…. be tread lightly with this shop. They actually read the TOU’s and try to dance around them in every way possible.

  243. factorygirlashli May 18, 2010 at 7:34 pm #

    be tread?

    oh dear.

    -be

  244. WTFISAPDF May 18, 2010 at 7:46 pm #

    I thought in their profile it said one of them couldn’t read. So you should say, “He actually reads … ”

    I think it was Verne who couldn’t read, spell, write or think. Something like that. Maybe he’s Luther’s imaginary friend.

  245. ananemone May 18, 2010 at 8:16 pm #

    I wish I could search “purse NOT reseller”. That would make it a lot easier.

  246. ananemone May 18, 2010 at 8:26 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/47450773/new-never-used-leather-look-coldwater?ref=sr_gallery_22&ga_search_query=purse+NOT+tippythai&ga_search_type=&ga_page=34&includes%5B%5D=tags&includes%5B%5D=title

    I could probably make a list a hundred links long, and I am still only on page 30something. sigh.

  247. Life During Wartime May 19, 2010 at 1:04 am #

    factorygirlashli, these people creeped me out even before I read what happened to you. If he continues to harass you, I think you should contact Twitter even if that’s a hassle. At the very least you must keep documentation on whatever contact he has with you. I can’t imagine what these people are even doing on Etsy. They are not even trying to hide the fact that they are gaming the system with their fake merchandise and faux collective — like, how can a collective of reseller shops be legit?

    Someone saw this item listed as ‘vintage’ in their creepy shop
    http://www.etsy.com/view_transaction.php?transaction_id=28381099
    and bought it. WTF? It’s not vintage, and if the buyer paid more than a buck she was ripped off.

    I find the “dead wife” sales pitch beyond tasteless, and am shocked that any woman could read his listings or announcement and not click the BACK button in horror…let alone make a purchase.

  248. L May 19, 2010 at 1:43 am #

    Stephica Says:
    May 18, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    It would help if you posted your name L. Also, a hit from here doesn’t mean you’ve been insulted, it could mean someone eventually found you through an initial link here. My SO has like a few dozen referrals from Regretsy that way.

    And are you talking about seven hits total or in one day? Because if it is total then that is completely normal.
    _______________________________________
    I haven’t posted my name as I don’t want to be popping up in Google associated with this site.

    It was 7 hits in in day.

    P.S This thread needs to be closed http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6502513

  249. Stephica May 19, 2010 at 1:51 am #

    Did you search your name and find it here? I find seven hits to be an odd number, seems to low for a feature or full on link and too high for a coincidence. Are you a heavily trafficked or promoted seller? I assume you are not a reseller. I guess it is possible that people just happened to find you on Etsy after clicking a link here.

    I understand the Google avoidance.

  250. L May 19, 2010 at 2:28 am #

    Yeah I searched my shop name but nothing came up, which is a good thing I guess!

    I am just a normal seller, definitely not a promoted one.

  251. not a copier May 19, 2010 at 3:34 am #

    this is totally off topic but I have no place else to go to ask this question, (can’t call out suspicious behavior you know). It’s 7:30 am on the east coast and I’m looking at the front page of etsy and I see in recently listed a large amount of artwork. From a thumbnail perspective you can’t tell if it’s one of those HK shops so I clicked on one of them. It took me to this shop:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/28975757/high-moon-page-70

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/35990912/high-moon-page-138

    There are about 20 of them, so how is it that there is a 0 in the items for sale section? Is this just some type of listing that I”m not aware of? It seems very odd and I can’t go to the etsy forums to ask because I have a hard time getting a point across with having to be vague and not naming names.
    Thanks

  252. NA May 19, 2010 at 4:20 am #

    You should defeinitely report it to Twitter! They shut down people all the time for spam, so why not harassment too? And how could etsy not care about someone being sexually harassed? Makes me sick!

    That Verne & Luther shop is creepy. and the disclaimer has me beleiving all those shops are just 1 or 2 people as well! I see the Vintage by Olenska (?) in the forums often. Maybe ECO AND Puss Daddy can do an expose on them. Get people to know whats going on!

  253. WTFISAPDF May 19, 2010 at 5:26 am #

    L, that thread should have been closed weeks ago. So many call outs, insults, and those hijacked posts are so annoying.

    It’s frustrating to read about an interesting subject only to have Artbytrudy hijack it with nonsense (as she does with so many threads).

    And glittercritter is gone to Artfire, so why does she keep posting in that thread?

    It’s cucakette drama at it’s worst.

  254. L May 19, 2010 at 5:41 am #

    WTFISAPDF Says:
    May 19, 2010 at 5:26 am

    L, that thread should have been closed weeks ago. So many call outs, insults, and those hijacked posts are so annoying.

    It’s frustrating to read about an interesting subject only to have Artbytrudy hijack it with nonsense (as she does with so many threads).

    And glittercritter is gone to Artfire, so why does she keep posting in that thread?

    It’s cucakette drama at it’s worst.
    ___________________

    I have written to admin about it, it is just the same old people moaning and keeping it alive. It is all about Glitter too. All they are now dong is saying how crap Etsy is and how they are moving to Artfire so I am surprised it hasn’t been shut down for that. I don’t want potential buyers reading all that rubbish.

    P.S what are cupcakes??

  255. WTFISAPDF May 19, 2010 at 7:22 am #

    I just saw that Paperstreet is back in the mix of that thread. Once she’s in a thread, it’s sure to be closed.

    The cupckaes, or cupcakettes, are the admin favs who dominate the forums with their whining, policing ways. And get away with it. They also hijack the threads with stupid stuff, like saying pass the brownies, pass the wine, pass the beer, pass the popcorn, pass the cupcakes.

  256. Anon E Mouse May 19, 2010 at 7:54 am #

    For what it’s worth, I am going to convo Rob White about the attitude of Laurie Ryan

    …………………………………..

    Who died and made Laurie Ryan queen? I don’t know when some of those forum beeyotches even find time to make stuff, they seem to spend all day bossing people around.

    And Artisanwood, doesn’t he EVER shut up?

  257. Not Suprised May 19, 2010 at 8:03 am #

    Just curious. What happened to ECO? Have not seen any posts in this thread and its almost a week old.

  258. WTFISAPDF May 19, 2010 at 8:12 am #

    It’s about time someone wrote admin to complain about Laurie Ryan. She’s terribly bossy and know-it-all-ish.

    She gives artisian a run for the bossy title.

  259. L May 19, 2010 at 9:24 am #

    Anon E Mouse Says:
    May 19, 2010 at 7:54 am

    For what it’s worth, I am going to convo Rob White about the attitude of Laurie Ryan

    …………………………………..

    Who died and made Laurie Ryan queen? I don’t know when some of those forum beeyotches even find time to make stuff, they seem to spend all day bossing people around.

    And Artisanwood, doesn’t he EVER shut up?
    __________________
    That’s exactly what I think! If they spent half the time making stuff and actually working on their shops that though do moaning, they might actually see an improvement.

    Oh I hate all that pass the cheese, wine, popcorn crap too.
    Sandesign really annoys me and no Artisanwood never shuts up, he is always right didn’t you know?

  260. WTFISAPDF May 19, 2010 at 9:58 am #

    AprilMarieMai is another bossy know-it-all. With only 24 sales, her time could be better spent

  261. CockADoodleDoo May 19, 2010 at 11:38 am #

    Cupcakes are the fave food of etsy’s biggest cheerleaders.

  262. CockADoodleDoo May 19, 2010 at 11:39 am #

    Not surprised, I know. Did we get all of the resellers? lol

  263. Stephica May 19, 2010 at 11:50 am #

    Looks like they took the ass out of the treasury after I explicitly stated it was a reseller. I probably should have just messaged them, wasn’t trying to be a douche to the curator.

  264. Life During Wartime May 19, 2010 at 12:16 pm #

    Um no, Stephica. The overpriced (there’s a comment above saying this item sells wholesale for 4-8 bucks) pearl g-string SOLD today. The shop is still open, selling its beauty products, no problem.

    Another awesome demonstration of how eagerly some Etsy buyers will overpay for reseller trash. Sigh…

  265. Stephica May 19, 2010 at 12:32 pm #

    Wow, thank you for undermining my faith in people’s ability to think critically by pointing that out.

    Is it bad that I hope whoever bought it is a sockpuppet account that won’t pay?

  266. Stephica May 19, 2010 at 12:40 pm #

    I made another comment about how I hope whoever bought the G-string is aware they paid 6x more for a wholesale item that is being depicted by images that are available all over the Internet and the curator took that comment down.

  267. Sara May 19, 2010 at 12:45 pm #

    Funny how people who want everyone to be superaccepting of mature items because they’re Etsy legal get pissed if you point out something that isn’t Etsy legal.

  268. factorygirlashli May 19, 2010 at 12:54 pm #

    Maybe a sock puppet angrily bought it out of the treasury b/c they’re tired of seeing it on T-East.

    I wouldn’t doubt it.

  269. JajieBo May 19, 2010 at 1:00 pm #

    Sheesh, the content of ECO is so hopelessly clogged with petty beef lately. Yuck.

  270. Em May 19, 2010 at 1:06 pm #

    I think why we’re digressing into different subjects is because there hasn’t been much new content as far as resellers go. Not that I mind, I just think we’re entertaining ourselves with other “hot topics” while we wait for new posts.

  271. Life During Wartime May 19, 2010 at 1:16 pm #

    The pearl g-string was a reseller item, so it’s not petty to discuss it being in a hot treasury and getting sold, in my opinion. If it had been a handmade item, I’d have no issue with it.

  272. Stephica May 19, 2010 at 1:18 pm #

    Hey, stupid haole like beef!?

    There’s “Hand crafted mens cufflinks made with authentic lego square bricks. ” on the FP right now.

  273. Stephica May 19, 2010 at 1:26 pm #

    BREAKING NEWS:

    I suspected aeon11, the creator of the G-string Father’s day treasury was trying to get her treasury to the top with that image, not to be clever or subversive. So I looked at how many of her treasuries have been on the FP.

    NINE TIMES since less than one month ago. The first three times she made the FP were all on the same day, April 27th.

    http://www.craftcult.com/vault.php?fm=3&esn=aeon11&st=2&date=1274304021&userid=

    Reading her profile, it could be that she is some sort of guest curator Etsy brought in or something.

    ‘Suzanne Brown is an award-winning graphic designer, lifelong foodie, author of Summer: A User’s Guide, and proud Summerologist”

    Shame on Suzanne Brown for featuring resellers and flagrantly breaking the TOU and shame on Etsy for rewarding her with the FP.

  274. RocksInMySocks May 19, 2010 at 1:31 pm #

    Vintage Sedona bracelet from Kohls? This shop is truly disgusting.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/43115206/vintage-jewelry-sonoma-rope-chain

  275. i love potatoes May 19, 2010 at 1:36 pm #

    I just found this website. I had a buyer account on Etsy. I closed it today because the treasury smut and the rudeness in the forum. I had my account since a few months after Etsy started. I bought a lot from different sellers over the years. The atmosphere is awful and I lost all desire to buy there anymore. I should be able to look for new sellers in the treasury without getting greeted by a big ass staring at me.

  276. Life During Wartime May 19, 2010 at 1:36 pm #

    Right on, Stephica! I’ve just started looking at her treasuries, and here is one of hers promoting the reseller tibetvintages:

    http://www.etsy.com/treasury/4bf3f68b15706d91d1f804c8/red-dragon

    tibetvintages is a shop full of factory fresh reseller import goods, all dumped into the vintage category.

  277. RocksInMySocks May 19, 2010 at 1:38 pm #

    oops, should say “Sonoma bracelet”. Still disgusting though!

  278. detroit May 19, 2010 at 2:06 pm #

    JajieBo Says:

    Sheesh, the content of ECO is so hopelessly clogged with petty beef lately. Yuck.
    **********************************

    Well, that was certainly helpful and topical. Thanks! lol.

    Seriously, considering how some of these topics are rather ‘sensitive’ (yet in dire need of discussion, critical analysis), I think the conversation has, on the whole, been pretty mature here.

    Wouldn’t it be cool if this could be made into a forum style site. With a ‘reseller’ section. ‘Mistagger’ section, ‘Not vintage’ section, ‘supplies my arse’ section. ‘FP nonsense’ section, etc.

    That way, if you don’t like discussing the BS way etsy handles the FP, you can avoid it.

    I happen to think the topic is important. As a buyer only, I am very aware of the importance of the FP. You all are season Etsy people. A lot of people who are not familiar with Etsy start at the front page, see something that interests them and start clicking. Despite what many usual suspects say, in general, I think getting a lot of FP exposure is VERY important.

    So, I’d participate in that section too, and waste even more time here.

    lol- not sure why I spend so much time here. Initially, I was toying with the idea of making a store. Was doing research, and landed here. And I’ve been stuck ever since!

  279. Stephica May 19, 2010 at 2:13 pm #

    One would think that Suzanne Brown wouldn’t want such a crass and abusive manipulation of multiple rules linked to her name, given that she is a successful graphic designer and author by all appearances: http://www.suzanne-brown.com/

  280. Stephica May 19, 2010 at 2:15 pm #

    Who are these people like JajieBo who rarely if ever comment or contribute and feel the need to point out that the comments in ECO are off what they deem is the topic?

    Why are you even reading the comments if you don’t like them? Aside from a few heated comments a couple days ago, I’m not seeing anything that isn’t in the spirit of the ECO.

  281. TreasuredCock May 19, 2010 at 2:29 pm #

    JajieBo has been around ECO for a while with comments….

  282. Stephica May 19, 2010 at 2:33 pm #

    I apologize for the incorrect statement, I hadn’t seen that name in the last few entries. I stand by what else I said.

  283. L May 19, 2010 at 2:45 pm #

    Peaseblossom is on the FP again! Wow!

  284. Life During Wartime May 19, 2010 at 2:46 pm #

    Wow, Suzanne loves herself some reseller items!

    Here’s an item from a seller with a trio of reseller shops I found thru another of Suzanne’s booty fest treasuries:

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/45503736/set-of-four-dark-pink-small-bloom-real

    This amazingly skilled and awesomely busy artisan sells everything from lingerie to floral shop supplies (sold as handmade/housewares) “so you can build your own boutique”. Incredible.

    Gosh, I don’t need to pounce for resellers now. All I have to do is find aeon11’s treasuries.

  285. jcjohn May 19, 2010 at 3:27 pm #

    I think she meant “build your own bouquet”.

    Of course, I’ve been known to be wrong a time or two…

  286. doodette May 19, 2010 at 3:50 pm #

    there’s a cowl on the fp again.. they are totally fucking with us. I’ve never seen a real person wearing a cowl. I want an owl cowl though.

  287. WTFISAPDF May 19, 2010 at 5:02 pm #

    Wow, that Sparklejar sure is one mean bitch. She really lays anyone out who doesn’t agree with her. I just sent admin a convo about her. What’s up with these people? Is there some sort of collective mensing going on?

  288. Em May 19, 2010 at 5:50 pm #

    hate to be nit-picky, but the featured seller should get their chemistry materials straight.

    “tall, slender beaker” =/= graduated cylinder.

  289. PusDaddy May 19, 2010 at 6:13 pm #

    factorygirlashli Says:
    May 18, 2010 at 7:33 pm
    ussDaddy Says:
    May 17, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    Bedazzled VONdom Says:
    May 17, 2010 at 8:50 am
    Fake WEISS a plenty. Not twenty year old fake WEISS. New fake WEISS crap and some generic dollar tree crap.

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/VerneandLuther?section_id=6818600

    Ridiculous schtick too. Who the hell wants to buy fake vintage jewelry from the dirty mitts of faux winos? Perhaps their recent announcement demonstrates an awakening to that conundrum.

    Linked shops are interesting too. As is their Twitter

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    As a buyer shit like this pisses me off and it is one reason I have just cave in and started buying stuff in store nows more than I do on Etsy.

    ____________

    I posted a response earlier but I don’t see it in the comments, so forgive me if this double posts.

    Be careful what you say about this seller. When they first started selling their bogus shit on Etsy, I tweeted “Is this for real?” with a shop link on twitter. They e-searched themselves… found my tweet… and they decided to threaten and sexually harass me via twitter. I have screenshots. Etsy doesn’t care… I haven’t messed with reporting it to twitter…

    So anyways…. be tread lightly with this shop. They actually read the TOU’s and try to dance around them in every way possible.

    ””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””

    Fuck ’em both.

  290. detroit May 19, 2010 at 6:44 pm #

    doodette Says:
    May 19, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    there’s a cowl on the fp again.. they are totally fucking with us. I’ve never seen a real person wearing a cowl. I want an owl cowl though.
    ***************************

    I hate to dis people who actually make their stuff (I didn’t see this Fp cowl). But I do get so sick of the Etsy ‘trends’ (while we’re bitching about ‘other hot topics’ lol).

    By over featuring something, Etsy takes something that is cute, and makes it into an overdone phenomena that makes you want to puke every time you see it.

    Sooo. a COWL at the end of May??

    I love knitted items. I love to wear them. I love cowls, I love owls. But Etsy has made me kind of hate them.

    What are they going to wear out next, with their FP repitition? The FP drumbeat of lukewarm trends?

    They even hurt their favorites. I don’t haunt the Etsy forums that much. So, I’ve no clue as to how nice or meany Peasblossomstudio is.

    But the constant FP presence makes me want to vomit! I feel animosity towards this store, and I have no idea if it’s warranted. I just don’t like things shoved down my throat!

  291. detroit May 19, 2010 at 6:48 pm #

    Anyone else wonder – Etsy being all tech-y and algorithm-y. if they decide the FP based on some formula that shows certain items lead to increased sales and views?

    Wouldn’t surprise me.

    Maybe Etsy shoppers get the dreck they deserve?

    Like any other company, you know they monitor what sales are driven by what they show on the web.

    This could be a sign of the collective bad taste of humanity, and not a reflection of Etsy curation…

    Just a thought.

    Time for bed!

  292. detroit May 19, 2010 at 7:05 pm #

    Oh, last thing. Sorry, Stephica, I was one of the people who referred to your ‘boyfriend’s’ shop in the previous thread. I only did so, because some arse earlier in the thread had done so, and I, stupidly, assumed they knew what they were talking about. I didn’t actually think about it. Oops! lol. We all know what ASSuming does!

    Anyway, your SO’s shop is very cool! I love corsetry!

  293. WTFISAPDF May 19, 2010 at 7:46 pm #

    detroit Says:
    May 19, 2010 at 7:05 pm
    Oh, last thing. Sorry, Stephica, I was one of the people who referred to your ‘boyfriend’s’ shop in the previous thread. I only did so, because some arse earlier in the thread had done so, and I, stupidly, assumed they knew what they were talking about. I didn’t actually think about it. Oops! lol. We all know what ASSuming does!

    Anyway, your SO’s shop is very cool! I love corsetry!
    ————————————-

    You have me all confused

  294. doodette May 19, 2010 at 8:52 pm #

    That fucking thing with the baby parts hanging off of it… now THAT’S offensive. What the fuck? I am so disturbed by that thing. I wish I could say THAT in the forums.

  295. ADC May 19, 2010 at 11:06 pm #

    I’m sure Verneandluther is the alter ego of another seller who’s always in etc, I can’t remember their name though and I don’t want to make an incorrect guess and call out someone innocent.

  296. imwithya May 19, 2010 at 11:31 pm #

    Well ADC there is a statement waaay down at the bottom of their profile saying that they are part of a collective and that seller itsadeal111 will be taking their photos, writing their listings, accepting their paypal payments and shipping out their items for them. Is that a collective?

    http://www.etsy.com/people/VerneandLuther

  297. WTFISAPDF May 20, 2010 at 3:28 am #

    I can’t get over the uproar over a filter. If sellers had tagged their mature items properly to begin with, none of this would have happened. And the curators who put those treasuries together did nothing to quell the masses, despite knowing they were controversial.

    My guess is Etsy had a lot of buyers close accounts. I notice someone up above in the comments did so.

    I see the ass is back in the treasury. And I agree, those amputated baby parts are gross. I am sure many find them offensive.

    This latest forum fiasco only further damages Etsy’s reputation. What a mockery. I can’t get over those who want the smut to stay visible for all to see, tell those who don’t that they are prudes… I mean if you have ever had sex, you must want to look at stuffed pricks and felt vaginas. Duh.

  298. Kathy May 20, 2010 at 12:11 pm #

    peaseblossom is on the front page again! Give me a frickin break!

  299. RocksInMySocks May 20, 2010 at 3:01 pm #

    Is anyone really surprised that PissBlossom is the new Etsy poster child ? After reading this, it makes sense to me.

    http://pussdaddyblogs.blogspot.com/2010/05/maybe-you-could-live-on-etsys-front.html

  300. PussDaddy May 20, 2010 at 6:45 pm #

    Too funny.

  301. JK May 21, 2010 at 7:29 am #

    WTFISAPDF, I think you’re on to something with the complaints of ‘prude’ toward people who don’t think there’s anything particular edgy, artistic or special about pretend genitals. Nothing prudish about deciding when and where you see ’em.

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