Switch4uTrade, thegreedyseagull

15 Jun

These shoes at thegreedyseagull: http://www.etsy.com/listing/48515318/vintage-swedish-clogs-navy-leather-and?ref=sr_gallery_1&ga_search_type=user_shop_ttt_id_7158616

Are these shoes: http://www.hannaandersson.com/Style.asp?from=SRCH&styleid=15234&simg=15234_A91&mwc=A91&styleRef=15234w

Granted, Hanna Andersson has probably been making that same clog for quite a while so they could be vintage. But why would you pay $48 for a used shoe when you could get them new for $35?

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130 Responses to “Switch4uTrade, thegreedyseagull”

  1. L June 15, 2010 at 8:17 am #

    I watched as that second shop was shut down just now. First the items vanished. Then the profile, but the main page was still there, now, nothing! Hooray!

  2. sick of cupcakes June 15, 2010 at 8:56 am #

    “Switch For You Trade”.

    What does that even mean? LOL

    Glad they are gone.

  3. Laura June 15, 2010 at 9:52 am #

    Those shoes are so not “vintage.” Ugh. I hate seeing popular vintage sellers doing stuff like this!

    Is Casual Corner vintage? http://www.etsy.com/listing/48738842/vintage-seashell-pink-silk-lattice-neck

  4. Laura June 15, 2010 at 9:54 am #

    Oh, and these shoes she has listed by SAS are not vintage: http://www.etsy.com/listing/48356861/vintage-huarache-leather-comfort-sandals

    My stepmother has the same pair that she bought at the SAS outlet a few yrs back!

  5. Laura June 15, 2010 at 9:57 am #

    And nine west was around in the 1940s? http://www.etsy.com/listing/45531210/vintage-40s-style-low-platforms

    I can’t look at this seller anymore!

  6. Laura June 15, 2010 at 10:04 am #

    Sorry for all the posts, but those vintage SAS shoes are online at the SAS website: http://www.sasshoes.com/main/view_styles.php?catid=4&prodid=62

  7. Life During Wartime June 15, 2010 at 11:15 am #

    Casual Corner was around in the 1980s, but I have no idea about the age of the blouse.

    About the None West shoes, calling contemporary shoes vintage without giving a date AND tagging them 1940s is deceptive, at best.

    And I know this sounds mean, but the shop name creeps me out. I guess I’ve seen too many real greedy seagulls in the NYC coastal areas feasting on garbage. Yuck.

  8. Life During Wartime June 15, 2010 at 11:16 am #

    Eeek…Nine West, not None.

  9. JK June 15, 2010 at 11:50 am #

    At least ‘greedy seagull’ is an apt name — like a real seagull, they display skill at picking garbage.

  10. Em June 15, 2010 at 12:02 pm #

    I’m glad switch4utrade is gone. I actually took the time to flag them the other day, it was so blatant. Seems to me like they thought it was just another Ebay, though. Not that it makes it right… but at least Etsy will remove THOSE violators. Now for the ones who are stealing sales from honest sellers and trying to stay under the radar…

  11. forum rubbernecker June 15, 2010 at 12:47 pm #

    Vintage, my booty. I sold some of those on Ebay last year. btw, they were $4.00 at the thrift store. Even on auction, it would be rare to get $48.00 for them.

  12. 1come1n9eace June 15, 2010 at 2:30 pm #

    I know someone who steals patterns from crochet pattern sellers who claims them as her own AND marks them as her own copyright protected items! Holy crap! What is Etsy coming to?
    (back later w/ links)

  13. it stinks June 15, 2010 at 6:55 pm #

    I’m not saying the casual corner shirt is 20 years old but I have a couple of shirts in my closet from Casual corner and they are probably 20 years old.
    So basically, my statement is about the sad state of the clothes in my closet.
    Sigh.

  14. it stinks June 15, 2010 at 6:57 pm #

    Oh, and I’m so glad Switch for you trade is gone. I flagged them 2-3 days ago.
    Since the phone booth mess this weekend, I’m almost scared to flag anymore. THe etsy brainiacs might just decide to shut me up permanently.

  15. naindejardin June 16, 2010 at 5:22 am #

    I found a reseller last night while looking for jewellery boxes

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/49398965/shell-covered-heart-shaped-keepsake-box

    I bought this box at a gift shop not even five years ago, and it was brand new, made in China!!!!!!!!

  16. detroit June 16, 2010 at 6:43 am #

    I came to Etsy focused on the ‘handmade’ items – first as a buyer. Then, as a potential seller. That’s how I came across this blog – doing research. I’ve about talked myself out of opening a store. With 200,000 new stores opening a month – it makes on wonder how anyone ever makes a sale?

    I’m curious about the stats. Like, what percentage of Etsy’s income is from the listing fees? What part is from their cut of actual sales?

    Then, of the actual sales, how is that distributed? I would imagine a very small fraction (the usual suspects), make up a majority of actual sales. Like way under 10%???

    Anyone know?

    Anyway – this is a really LOOOONG winded way of saying – of my focus was on vintage, rather than handmade – I think all the fake vintage sellers would be even more maddening than the resellers.

    Again with the stats – I wonder (in handmade) what percent are resellers versus (in vintage) what percent are bogus vintage sellers.

    Is the faux vintage problem even worse than the reseller problem. Seems like people think they can throw any garage sale junk up there. And call it ‘vintage’.

  17. detroit June 16, 2010 at 6:44 am #

    Oops. I like to proofread only AFTER I hit submit…

    “Anyway – this is a really LOOOONG winded way of saying – IF my focus was on vintage, rather than handmade – I think all the fake vintage sellers would be even more maddening than the resellers.”

  18. Blue Kitty June 16, 2010 at 7:34 am #

    I’m noticing a few I have flagged have gone or the offending items have gone from mixed shops. I hope this is a good sign that Content Team are taking action now.

  19. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 9:25 am #

    Hey Crazies-

    I took down the clogs, is your boo-boo all better now? Someone just pointed out to me last night that they are still around, and I was going to take them down anyways. Glad to see you were all happy to pounce on my mistake before I had a chance to fix it. Who are all of you whiny people anyhow? I highly encourage you all to email me your list of complaints!

    Laura- By all means, please don’t look at my shop any more. You sound like a jealous, bored, insecure person that probably has a job you hate, or maybe you are unemployed because you have all this time? I encourage you to email me- thegreedyseagull(at!)gmail.com if you would like to hate on me further.

    JK- Did you even look through the rest of my store? I would hardly call all the 50-60 year old evening gowns, cocktail dresses and dead stock 50’s casual wear garbage. Do you think you could find better things? Please send me a link to your fabulous, successful vintage store that must have way better things in it.

    Ok, peace out for now- I have a really big pile of orders to go ship and the Post Office closes the three hours.

    thegreedyseagull(at!)gmail.com

  20. Laura June 16, 2010 at 9:46 am #

    LOL! Sorry if the truth hurts! Defensive much? Personal insults aren’t really my thing. I simply commented on the items that were not vintage, and it’s astounds me a vintage seller would not even research the shoes that you list and portray as “vinatge.”

    Actually, I am a big fan of vintage and buy a lot of it on Etsy. So yea, umm….good luck!

  21. Laura June 16, 2010 at 9:49 am #

    Oh, and you still have those “vintage” SAS shoes up!

  22. detroit June 16, 2010 at 9:56 am #

    Tee hee hee.

  23. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 9:59 am #

    Laura, slandering someone’s livelihood is highly personal. I support my family doing this and yes, I am defensive for that reason.

    I run a high volume business and try my best to research brands. The company has been making the same style since 1983, and I really did think they were vintage. I don’t have time to write a thesis and provenance every article of clothing in my shop. I’m a business owner, not a historian.

    You’ll see from my feedback that I am also an ethical business owner too. If I misrepresent something, I refund my buyers. If something is proven not vintage, I take it down. But if I pandered to every snarky, jealous comment made about my shop I would have no business left.

    Thank you for the well wishes though, I have a feeling that my store will continue to do just fine.

  24. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 10:02 am #

    Offensive granny shoes removed. Was too busy writing you a response to get them down before you commented again.

  25. Bedazzled VONdom June 16, 2010 at 10:06 am #

    “I have a really big pile of orders to go ship”

    Under normal circumstances this is something to be proud of but when two of the things you have sold in the past two days are not vintage, even by Etsy’s lax standards, it’s probably best to keep your mouth shut.

    On a more positive note, AT LEAST YOU HAD THE GOOD SENSE TO AVOID THE CAPS LOCK KEY.

  26. Dani June 16, 2010 at 10:09 am #

    Laura- It’s actually pretty lame of you to go on here ranting all the time. I see your comments all over this website all the time, and it really looks like you have nothing better to do. Perhaps you should get a job? Or maybe if you’re such an expert on vintage, you should stop criticizing other people on here, and start your own store. Something tells me that if you were any good at that, you would have done it already.

    You talk about Casual Corner. You simply do not know that it was not vintage, and there’s a good chance it probably is. That seller has a lot of very quality vintage items in her store, and you seem to have picked out the needles in the haystack that you don’t think are vintage. I actually buy from this seller all the time, and everything I have bought has been very nice vintage. When you run a shop that is selling a lot on Etsy, it’s very difficult to sit around researching all day. Maybe you should start a shop of your own if you’re such an “expert.”

  27. Bedazzled VONdom June 16, 2010 at 10:10 am #

    “I run a high volume business and try my best to research brands.”

    Oh please. What the fuck is “my best?”

    It’s very simple, really. You either know the age of a garment or accessory, or you don’t.

    And if you don’t know, then those things should be listed elsewhere. Not on Etsy.

    You don’t get to break the rules just because you have a family to support.

  28. Bedazzled VONdom June 16, 2010 at 10:13 am #

    I know I promised to stop gambling here but I can’t resist.

    Ten bucks says Dani and Greedy have the same IP number.

  29. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 10:16 am #

    Ms. Bedazzled, would you like to come over and authenticate the merchandise before it gets shipped today?

  30. Life During Wartime June 16, 2010 at 10:28 am #

    Detroit, I sell vintage items and don’t have an Etsy shop. I’ve known about Etsy since 2006.

    I never wanted to sell vintage on Etsy except for vintage supplies. When I found out Etsy management had recruited dealers from the online antiques venue with the worst reputation for passing fakes (which is against that venue’s TOU but NEVER enforced) on the net, I realized that Etsy was clueless about vintage. 2006. I was not wrong.

  31. Bedazzled VONdom June 16, 2010 at 10:39 am #

    “Ms. Bedazzled, would you like to come over and authenticate the merchandise before it gets shipped today?”

    Pay attention. I already did so.

    Two of your buyers will not be receiving vintage items.

    I don’t even need to see photos of the labels to know this. Not that you provided photos of the labels. I’m sure that was just an oversight on your part. **cough cough**

  32. JOINAA June 16, 2010 at 10:48 am #

    Seagull says, “I don’t have time to write a thesis and provenance every article of clothing in my shop. I’m a business owner, not a historian.”

    Well, if you sell vintage you had better be a historian, at least in respect to the things you sell. Otherwise, it’s just used stuff that you can’t authenticate. Not professional, but if you sell I guess that’s as good an excuse as any.

    We are ALL supporting our families. Don’t whine.

  33. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 10:52 am #

    Ms. Bedazzled,

    Why are you so personally motivated to be a vintage crusader? I don’t think I’m your competition, so what is your motive for going into online forums and being mean? Are you an Etsy admin? Did I not invite you to a birthday party in junior high? Do you run the Vintage Fashion Guild?

    My job is fun, and my customers are all happy. If you don’t like someone’s store, don’t shop there. Geez, I don’t even have the time to sit here and BS like this anymore and it’s my shop we’re talking about!

    -G

  34. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 10:58 am #

    Joinaa, I didn’t start the whining everyone else did. I’m just participating in the whining, and I am allowed to do so just like everyone else here

    =)

  35. bellacruz June 16, 2010 at 11:14 am #

    @greedyseagull,

    How do you arrive at the dates for your items? You do have some cool shoes. I should probably send you my vintage shoes that come into my brick & mortar consignment shop. I like the prices your getting!

  36. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 11:26 am #

    @bellacruz I would love to give you advice, but I apparently suck at dating shoes so I guess I shouldn’t!

  37. uh-huh June 16, 2010 at 12:10 pm #

    Why does anyone have to be bitter, have no life, or be mean for pointing out stuff that isn’t Etsy legal? Defensive much?
    Excuses don’t mean crap. Say oops and remove the listing, and grow a thicker skin when somebody points our you’re wrong.

  38. sick of cupcakes June 16, 2010 at 12:18 pm #

    You are lying to your customers. How does that make you a good business owner?

  39. Laura June 16, 2010 at 12:19 pm #

    I think it’s okay to make mistakes, really. Dani/Greedy-i haven’t insulted or slandered you at all here. I simply pointed out what wasn’t vintage. However, you are so defensive that it’s become a good little break for me to pop in and read this!

    And really, a historian? All you have to do is a simple google search to find the sames shoes, online..and new.

    I love vintage. Buy a lot of it. From shops that don’t have flagrant violations of the rules in their shops. I prefer to spend my money in shops that offer vintage that has been researched. They can date the piece based on materials, types of zippers etc. Fascinating to me how some vintage sellers really know their craft!

    PS-the insults really make me giggle.

  40. Laura June 16, 2010 at 12:23 pm #

    uh-huh- exactly! It makes me think Greedy is really, really young. I hope she learns a little and realizes that it’s not a bad thing to eat crow sometimes. Own up to it, and move on!

  41. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 12:26 pm #

    I did remove the listing and say oops. People are going beyond pointing out something is wrong and being downright catty. They are being rude for the sheer pleasure of it. And when it comes to my business, like I said- yes I am defensive. I’m not going to sit back and watch people I don’t even know attack my business without having a say in it. I’m entitled to defend myself. I have seller friends that do this too, and we send each other civilized conversations if we make a mistake and take the listings down.

  42. JK June 16, 2010 at 12:52 pm #

    ‘JK- Did you even look through the rest of my store? I would hardly call all the 50-60 year old evening gowns, cocktail dresses and dead stock 50′s casual wear garbage. Do you think you could find better things? Please send me a link to your fabulous, successful vintage store that must have way better things in it. ‘

    Yeah, I did. Doesn’t cancel out the crap you lie about being vintage, does it, sweetcakes?

  43. detroit June 16, 2010 at 1:03 pm #

    I love how taking a coffee break from work and coming here for 10 minutes entertainment constitutes ‘having no life’, ‘having no job’, or, conversely, ‘hating your job’ lol, being ‘bitter’ and being ‘jealous.’

    Look, L@@K!!!11!!! The sidebar already says we’re jealous bitches who have no life! We know. We know! We’re okay with that!

    Seems that whenever people are correctly called out, rather than address the substance of the issue – they inevitably use the same insults. lol.

    (btw – there are other websites I waste MUCH more time on. I’ll readily admit. Off to one of them now!! la la la!)

  44. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 1:07 pm #

    Certainly not, and I took it down because I didn’t know it wasn’t vintage. Thankfully I have a whole team of research assistants now! It was a mistake, sweetcakes.

  45. Nicole June 16, 2010 at 1:09 pm #

    ‘I did remove the listing and say oops”

    Oops, I accidentally spilled some milk. Not oops, I accidentally lied about the age of this item I photographed, wrote a description about and listed on Etsy. When you sprinkle your store with crap don’t be surprised when everything else stinks.

  46. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 1:48 pm #

    Don’t forget to check out my crappy store for new non-vintage items to flag tonight, I’m listing 30 new dresses all under 50 bucks!

  47. JOINAA June 16, 2010 at 2:03 pm #

    No thanks, there are lots of other crappy stores on Etsy to check out, or NOT.

    Sell what you know.

  48. Life During Wartime June 16, 2010 at 2:18 pm #

    Wow, you guys aren’t cutting GS any slack here.

    I don’t sell clothing, but I’ve been selling vintage for about 15 years now. Not everything can be researched and IDed. For the stuff that has labels, marks, or tags you can and should do some research. But for everything else, you need to take your best guess rather than throw the items in the charity box or whatever.

    I know dealers in high end antiques who have been repeatedly fooled at estate sales into buying fakes because the marks were so beautifully reproduced. Never mind that the colors, shape and weight of the pieces were dead wrong. They don’t look at the pieces, they look at the marks. And that’s a shame. They believe that a good mark = a good piece. That’s a crutch, not a knowledge base.

    People make honest mistakes where there is no intention to deceive. And people learn by making mistakes.

  49. etsycallout June 16, 2010 at 3:01 pm #

    2010/06/16 at 10:13 am

    I know I promised to stop gambling here but I can’t resist.

    Ten bucks says Dani and Greedy have the same IP number.
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    JACKPOT! They do have the same IP number. 🙂 Pretty funny! Now stop playing games greedy. We ain’t falling for that “post as different people” to boost sympathy shite here.

  50. etsycallout June 16, 2010 at 3:02 pm #

    Laura- It’s actually pretty lame of you to go on here ranting all the time. I see your comments all over this website all the time, and it really looks like you have nothing better to do. Perhaps you should get a job? Or maybe if you’re such an expert on vintage, you should stop criticizing other people on here, and start your own store. Something tells me that if you were any good at that, you would have done it already.

    You talk about Casual Corner. You simply do not know that it was not vintage, and there’s a good chance it probably is. That seller has a lot of very quality vintage items in her store, and you seem to have picked out the needles in the haystack that you don’t think are vintage. I actually buy from this seller all the time, and everything I have bought has been very nice vintage. When you run a shop that is selling a lot on Etsy, it’s very difficult to sit around researching all day. Maybe you should start a shop of your own if you’re such an “expert.”
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    Just wanted to point out “Dani” & thegreedyseagull have the same IP address. Imagine that *smirk*

  51. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 3:10 pm #

    actually my jackass husband did it thinking he was doing me a favor. guess who’s NOT getting laid tonight?

  52. David June 16, 2010 at 3:43 pm #

    Yes, it was me, the jackass husband who apparently won’t get laid tonight because I said something TRUE to these sorry, lame internet critics. She didn’t ask me to post anything, I just did it because it made me mad considering how hard she works to provide a quality business for her customers. She wasn’t too happy that I did it afterwards, either. Mea culpa.

    I could have been speaking for any number of my wife’s satisfied customers, because she has tons and sells to lots of knowledgeable buyers who love her items. She runs a great business, and it’s unfortunate that she has to “answer” to people on here who aren’t as good at doing what she does, and couldn’t make a business like hers work well. After all, you’re all such “experts,” why are you wasting your time on here all day, commenting on all these posts, when you could be making money doing it yourself? If you could, you would be doing it. And it’s pathetic that people would be willing to comb through someone’s site that they say they don’t like, so they can try to look good on a stupid blog. Imagine Laura above repeatedly going on and on with “oh, and this! This probably isn’t vintage! what about this?” She must have spent more time on my wife’s site than my wife did today. Just don’t shop there if you don’t like it, it’s that simple.

    Life During Wartime – thank you for being fair to my wife. It WAS an honest mistake – my wife is a very honest person. What you said about some items being difficult to authenticate is very true, and I watch a lot of people who are very into vintage struggle with that on a regular basis. She owned up to her mistake, and took the items down, and that should have been enough, but now all of these rude commenters are trying to win some ego war with their theories. If the original critiques of the items in question had been as fair as yours was, then the entire discussion above would have been unnecessary. But unfortunately, everybody is a critic and thinks their snarky opinion is the gospel, and many of the other posters up here were not commenting to do anything constructive, but rather just sniping from far away at someone who does this kind of thing better than they can because they’re probably jealous. I doubt they would ever say things like that to a person’s face, because they don’t have the guts.

    You snarky internet critics are the reason why the net sucks. You remind me of these pathetic guys in their 40s sitting in their Mom’s basement, ripping on movies and video games and music that they could never ever aspire to produce as well as the person they’re tearing down. And blogs like this are lame too – if you’re such an expert purist, why not start your own rival site to Etsy where you get to police it yourself, rather than tearing other people down? It sounds like you need to do something more productive with your life. People desperately need to get a life and stop aggrandizing themselves online. I would like to see you all run multiple stores online, selling at as high of a volume as my wife sells, and still be able to authenticate every single untagged or unsure historical item as if this is the freaking Da Vinci Code. You would never have the time. Check out the rest of her merchandise, you will only see quality stuff. People make mistakes once and a while, including all of you.

    And with that, I don’t have any more time to play with these spineless wonders. I did something stupid, and I owned up to it, so there. You can all pick apart what I said and spend all day on this blog commenting, we’ll be out running a business and making money. Who is the real loser here?

  53. uh-huh June 16, 2010 at 3:58 pm #

    My eyes glazed over, sorry.

  54. Life During Wartime June 16, 2010 at 4:16 pm #

    David, people are p.o.ed with Etsy doing nothing about TOU violations in the vintage category. Take a look at Garagetsy’s blog and you will see why frustration levels are running high:

    http://garagetsy.blogspot.com/

  55. Bedazzled VONdom June 16, 2010 at 4:39 pm #

    I bet you ten bucks David has a vagina.

  56. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 4:54 pm #

    Bedazzled Condom,

    I assure he you he does not. If I sent you proof, you’d be even more jealous and upset. But thanks for proving his point.

  57. huh June 16, 2010 at 5:02 pm #

    The real loser here would have to be the guy who posts a fake pat on the back for his called out wife.

  58. etsycallout June 16, 2010 at 5:03 pm #

    You were trying to be deceitful so again, it doesn’t reflect well on you/your wife’s shop. I wouldn’t go calling other people losers.

  59. wahwah June 16, 2010 at 5:17 pm #

    Ok, so say I sell original photographs. I list a photo that may or may not be an original of mine, just because it MAY be. To hell with my customers, I need to support MY family. No one else on etsy has families to support anyway.

  60. Bedazzled VONdom June 16, 2010 at 5:17 pm #

    Like shooting Sharpie eyebrows in a Quinceanera barrel.

    Helpful hint: if you want people to believe that you are someone else, be sure not to make the same, specific grammar mistakes from comment to comment.

  61. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 5:30 pm #

    Bedazzled Condom:

    http://thegreedyseagull.blogspot.com/2009/04/some-rather-dapper-gents.html

    Real, handsome and still not getting laid for sticking up for me.

  62. thegreedyseagull June 16, 2010 at 5:54 pm #

    Hope you got the link while it lasted. I got rid of my blog and twitter today because the nature of the whole online community of sellers is a total downer. I’m going off to mind my own business now, for good.

  63. uh-huh June 16, 2010 at 5:55 pm #

    This has to be one of the weirder results of a call out so far…..

  64. Bedazzled VONdom June 16, 2010 at 5:58 pm #

    Hon, pay attention.

    I am not questioning whether you have a man in your life. I assume most hetero women have a man in their life. No one cares. Most of us have our own.

    What I am saying is there is no way in hell he came here to write supportive comments. Yes, it’s painfully obvious that you actually wrote those comments and the more you lie about it, the dumber and LESS HONEST you appear.

    I am not jealous of your business, as I am strictly a buyer of vintage clothing, not a seller, and my tastes are a bit more sophisticated than your stock.

    I also am not envious of overweight men with barrel chests who are unable to support a family.

    Sharpie eyebrows! Woo hoo!

  65. Life During Wartime June 16, 2010 at 6:09 pm #

    wahwah, a vintage seller always knows less about an item they buy than an artist or crafter knows about what they create. Unless they are the original owner of the vintage item.

    The factories where a lot of vintage items (like pottery and glass) were made have been closed for 30-50 years now, and some makers have no documentation other than the photos of items for sale on the internet. And to add an interesting twist, the molds were sold off even though the documentation was lost. There are shops on Etsy selling pottery made from vintage molds and decorating the pieces in the same colors as the originals — wait until these items hit the thrift shops, holy crowbar! There’s a lot involved with accurately listing your vintage. Sometimes best guess is all you can do.

  66. Etsy Person June 16, 2010 at 7:03 pm #

    It takes all kinds to make a world and evidently they are all on Etsy.

  67. detroit June 16, 2010 at 7:23 pm #

    Yo – um, Greedy Seagull. why do you care so much? It’s the frikken internet.

    Make sure your store is top notch. Tweet and facebook away.

    Criticism is part of life.

    So what?

    Learn and deal.

    Right?

  68. Laura June 17, 2010 at 5:26 am #

    LOL! Calling out flagrant violations makes me lame? Okay, I’ll take it!

    This so could have turned out well for her, but her aggressive flamatory defensiveness (and the hubbys) have turned it into a “you have to be kidding me!”

    And I care b/c I have been on Etst since 2007, and I think it’s just plain wrong to fraud buyers with a lack of vintage knowledge. If you can’t even google it, then don’t list it.

    I am at a job that I love, sipping some coffee…and I am wearing a rocking 1960s mod dress that I purchased online at Etsy. I have to say, I am not feeling so lame…

    Too bad…you do have some cute dresses too! But now…uhh…no way!

  69. Laura June 17, 2010 at 5:34 am #

    I seriously can not believe that’s her husband! My hubby would fall on the floor laughing at all this.

    Detroit-I ioved your post! You must share your sites with me so I can add more to my “no life, lame” favorties!

    Oops..coffee is getting cold. Coffee break is over!

  70. wahwah June 17, 2010 at 6:05 am #

    “…and I think it’s just plain wrong to fraud buyers with a lack of vintage knowledge. If you can’t even google it, then don’t list it. ”

    This is how I feel. If you are not sure, then list it on ebay stating that fact. Don’t just assume it’s vintage and pass the mistake onto the customer.

  71. Etsy Person June 17, 2010 at 6:20 am #

    The factories where a lot of vintage items (like pottery and glass) were made have been closed for 30-50 years now, and some makers have no documentation other than the photos of items for sale on the internet. And to add an interesting twist, the molds were sold off even though the documentation was lost. There are shops on Etsy selling pottery made from vintage molds and decorating the pieces in the same colors as the originals — wait until these items hit the thrift shops, holy crowbar! There’s a lot involved with accurately listing your vintage. Sometimes best guess is all you can do.

    ________
    Yes and no. If you are familiar with your products, you will be able to spot fakes. There are also a lot of sites that compare old to reproductions. Not every company sold or lost its molds. And some are legitimate makers of the products – case in point being Bauer pottery. The name and rights have been repurchased. The NEW Bauer pottery is still made in California and it is clearly marked “Bauer 2000”.

  72. thegreedyseagull June 17, 2010 at 8:13 am #

    I would never intentionally try to lie to my customers about what I am selling. If I did this repeatedly, it would be reflected in my feedback. I’ve never had someone return something for “not being vintage enough”. I removed every single item from my store that is even remotely questionable, so point taken. Going forward, I will do a better job of researching my items.

    Detroit- I agree with you. I shouldn’t care so much. I should handle reasonable criticism better. I will make sure my store is top notch, thank you.

    However, I am starting to see the humor in this whole website. This morning I woke up and looked at all the nastiness on here and instead of feeling bad, this all just seemed kind of funny. Really, this turned out entertaining.

    The reality of this situation is that this is not going to have any impact whatsoever on my business or reputation. In fact, if anything it will be positive because I will be more careful about what I post going forward.

    I looked back into the archives, and some of you have been sitting around saying the exact same bullshit about different people almost every day for a year. Because that is what happy, well-adjusted, attractive people with lovely jobs do on their coffee breaks, right? People with good intentions don’t spend their spare time looking for opportunities to talk shit.

    Truly, there a couple of the nastiest, most miserable women I have ever come across spewing venom all over this site. And the best part is that neither of the two nastiest people in the whole discussion have vintage shops and know how difficult they are to run. I am completely confident that neither of you could do what I do without making more mistakes, let alone start a successful business of your own with a loyal customer base. It’s easy to sit on the sidelines and snipe at other people’s errors because it makes you feel good about yourself. I made two mistakes here, actually- instead of letting you all infuriate me, I should have just ignored you, changed the listings and gone on with my life. This has been a great lesson for me.

  73. Bedazzled VONdom June 17, 2010 at 8:28 am #

    That’s all very well and good but you still have non-vintage items in your shop.

    “There’s one way to find out if a man is honest – ask him. If he says “Yes,” you know he is a crook.” Groucho Marx

  74. Penny June 17, 2010 at 8:30 am #

    I used to sell vintage clothing for 5 years so I know what it is like and agree it is hard. But I did not date anything that I didn’t know and at least an hour or two a day I would be researching “styles” of each decade. Each decade has definite hemlines, fabrics, certain types of tags that can immediately clue you in to the accurate date.

    I read books from the library on the subject and all of the how to date vintage articles till I was nearly blind. Immerse yourself in photos of each era so much that your eye will immediately tell what is REAL vintage or vintage INSPIRED.

    So yes, is it hard? Of course but that does NOT mean that you just throw a haphazard number on it and since your customers may not know the difference call it good.

    EDUCATE YOURSELF. STUDY. WORK TO DEVELOP AN EYE.

    and P.S.- Only on rare occasions do you have “vintage” shoes that are new looking. Back in the day people only had a couple pairs and they would be worn. So if you know that a certain shoe has been made for awhile so “it must be vintage” (ugh) does not mean that it is.

  75. Penny June 17, 2010 at 8:33 am #

    and don’t try to justify yourself by tearing down others. Your own actions got you on here- live with it.

    And it’s been 5 minutes since you posted- where’s the husband?! 🙂

  76. JK June 17, 2010 at 8:52 am #

    ‘It’s easy to sit on the sidelines and snipe at other people’s errors because it makes you feel good about yourself.’

    Or, you know, the reason people are calling you out on your ‘errors’ is because Etsy vintage sellers who lie about their items cast doubt on the veracity of all other vintage sellers on the site, and business owners who work their butts off to make sure that they’re as knowledgeable about their products as is possible don’t like being lumped in with people who just randomly apply an attractive date to a new item and list it.

  77. Laura June 17, 2010 at 8:55 am #

    Greedy? How in the world am I filled with venom? I listed a few links, and then your hubby comes on and calls me lame, and really kind of silly names. I mean, are we in the same reality?

    Oh, and I do have shop! Um, so wrong assumption there!

  78. Laura June 17, 2010 at 8:57 am #

    The person filled with venom on here, is your “hubby.”

    Glad you learned a few lessons. Really. Shame you didn’t handle this a little better, but I really like one of your dresses.

  79. Laura June 17, 2010 at 9:07 am #

    HAHA! You know what’s kind of funny. Her husband’s post says this at the end,

    “And with that, I don’t have any more time to play with these spineless wonders. I did something stupid, and I owned up to it, so there. You can all pick apart what I said and spend all day on this blog commenting, we’ll be out running a business and making money. Who is the real loser here?”

    She forgot that she was her acting as her hubby!

    And these are the names you called me in like the first post or two when I simply linked to your non vintage items.

    ” Crazies jealous, bored, insecure person, get a job, lame, snarky.”

    You are venom, defensive and it’s SO amusing! Anyway, off to look at more sites during my lunch break! LALALA…

  80. uh-huh June 17, 2010 at 9:07 am #

    The reason people are sitting around pointing this stuff out for a year is because ‘errors’ are rampant all over the site. We’re upset. We love Etsy. Don’t you love Etsy, greedy? Don’ t you want the site to be the best it can be, have a good reputation for quality, truthful items? If not….. if you don’t care, if you don’t want to be the best and sell on the best quality site, then maybe an exit is warranted. We don’t need all the items outside the legal bounds, we’ve got tons of true quality items.
    Don’t act like people asking for accuracy is mean, spiteful, hateful, jealous, ugly. That’s just plain silly, rather petty and a defense mechanism. There *are* times when posters hit below the belt, emotions run high on both ‘sides’ of a call out.
    Take the high road and move on. Be a better person. Buck up and zip up would be a great course.

  81. wahwah June 17, 2010 at 3:36 pm #

    Penny, I think I love you.

  82. detroit June 17, 2010 at 5:36 pm #

    Laura Says:
    June 17, 2010 at 5:34 am

    Detroit-I ioved your post! You must share your sites with me so I can add more to my “no life, lame” favorties!
    _________________________________________

    Er….too embarrassing. Let’s just say I like everything from the New York Times (and yes, they can be very snarky, petty, and fabulous!) to the Daily Mail (or Daily Fail – lol- from the UK. The Brits practically invented trashy, tabloid “journalism”)
    ___________________________________________

    thegreedyseagull Says:
    June 17, 2010 at 8:13 am

    I looked back into the archives, and some of you have been sitting around saying the exact same bullshit about different people almost every day for a year. Because that is what happy, well-adjusted, attractive people with lovely jobs do on their coffee breaks, right? People with good intentions don’t spend their spare time looking for opportunities to talk shit.
    ___________________________________________

    Oh, right, I forgot to add (thanks for reminding me!), we’re not just jealous here – we’re ugly and mentally unbalanced! (No, you don’t talk shit at all! lol!!)

    Um, people with ‘good intentions’ (your words above) have a critical, intelligent eye, and want Etsy (where they shop or do business) to NOT be polluted by factory crap, or new ‘vintage’.

    Reputation, and perception, is everything. Etsy’s starting to get a reputation for being cheap, and dishonest.

    Shame on us ‘spineless wonders’ for trying to maintain the integrity of the site. It is indeed a losing battle.

    But, then again, we’re losers!!!!

  83. thegreedyseagull June 17, 2010 at 8:57 pm #

    I just went to the nicest wine and cheese party in Williamsburg. Got completely drunk and danced to Lady Gaga and Prince with super hot gay men. Going to go pass out stone cold with my contact lenses in. Just thought I would check in and say goodnight to my new internet chat buddies! Happy Friday everyone! Woo!

  84. Stephica June 17, 2010 at 9:20 pm #

    I haven’t participated in this whole drama, but you’re saying that you’re so drunk that you can’t take out your contact lenses, but you’ve managed to type this message out?

    Priorities.

  85. Bedazzled VONdom June 17, 2010 at 11:21 pm #

    Perhaps the jackass husband Dani-David typed it for her?

  86. wahwah June 18, 2010 at 5:14 am #

    Wow, I wish I got to get shitfaced drunk and dance with gay men! But alas, I don’t drink and prefer straight men.

  87. Laura June 18, 2010 at 5:15 am #

    thegreedyseagull Says:
    June 17, 2010 at 8:13 am

    I looked back into the archives, and some of you have been sitting around saying the exact same bullshit about different people almost every day for a year. Because that is what happy, well-adjusted, attractive people with lovely jobs do on their coffee breaks, right? People with good intentions don’t spend their spare time looking for opportunities to talk shit.

    This thread just gets more and more odd. She isn’t very professional for having such a mega-business. Calling everyone names, pretending to be her husband, talking about how drunk she is?

    Even though it’s amusing, I think I may exit this one as I really feel like someone isn’t quite..all there.

  88. detroit June 18, 2010 at 5:34 am #

    Well, since we’ve devolved into hurling insults, lol, ugh – Billyburg is soooo…. annoying. It’s a hipster nightmare of epic proportions. lol. When I used to live in NY I would try to avoid it at all costs. ha ha.

    But, Greedy Seagull, I’m glad you had a good time, and I’m glad we’re all internet comment section buddies now! Some of the people I hated most, and found very grating when I first met them, ended up being my best friends!

    Okay – that was way too syrup-y. I have to go brush my teeth now so I can return to my natural, bitter character!

    And then I have to get back to some work I must hate!

    Toodles!

  89. uh-huh June 18, 2010 at 5:55 am #

    Well it’s always impressive (trying) to communicate in civil fashion with somebody who passive-aggressively posts shit about how drunk they are.

  90. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 7:52 am #

    Good morning lovelies! I had such a nice rest!

    wahwah I prefer straight men too buy gay men dance SO much better, you gotta admit. Plus, what straight guy is going to drink wine and dance to Lady Gaga with me? None. Overweight, barrel-chested Dani/David was out watching the Lakers at Blondies on the UWS last night with his law school pals. (that’s why I support the fam by the way, hopefully next year the economy will pick up for and I’ll be able to go back for my PHD, he supported me while I was in school so we trade off. He actually does most of my shipping for me!)

    detroit- agreed. Billyburg is gross but my best friend lives there and I sell at a vintage market there sometimes so I brave it. It’s actually a superfund site for nuclear and hazardous chemical waste. It had an underground oil spill bigger than the Exxon-Valdez. There’s a good documentary called “Toxic Brooklyn” about the whole mess.

    Laura- I am really flattered that you think my shop is a mega-business! That’s genuinely the first time I’ve heard it and it made my morning. No sarcasm, really. Where professionalism is due, it is delivered. But this is just a blog that might pop up in a google search when someone looks for me. I highly doubt it’s going to convince anyone except a few people that read this that I’m unprofessional. Then they’ll just go look at my feedback and change their minds. And if you ever want to ichat or skype with me and hubby you’ve got my email!

    xoxo
    G

  91. Bedazzled VONdom June 18, 2010 at 8:16 am #

    “Medication time. Medication time.”

  92. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 8:18 am #

    Indeed!

  93. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 8:22 am #

    Come to think of it, I actually worked out of Bellevue as a project coordinator before doing this. Maybe they should have kept me there!

  94. wahwah June 18, 2010 at 8:37 am #

    Wow I am so impressed by your amazing life.

    ho hum

  95. Laura June 18, 2010 at 8:44 am #

    Dude, I was being sarcastic, but I do think you have fairly successful Etsy vintage site, and as such you should be more worried about portraying your items as vintage instead of calling people names. Think of how some of your buyers would feel knowing they bought something “vintage” that is available new? And I do feel it is all of our duties to maintain the integrity of Etsy.

    As a buyer of vintage, I do think listing new shoes as vintage is just plain wrong because it means no research was involved. There’s an Etsy vintage seller that I love because she describes how she dates her items, and I feel confident making purchases from her.

    Some of your buyers have purchased items from you because they trusted you to provide them with quality vintage. Instead, they have new shoes.. I mean, I would be horrified to realize I had failed in portraying my product correctly because I didn’t even conduct a google search. It makes me wonder if it was a genuine mistake or intentional.

    Anyway, enough about this. This should have ended with you feeling contrite, but it was blown open because you are so aggressive.

    And for the record honey, this “mean, lame, crazy, unattractive” woman is pretty dang hot, can fit into your small dresses and I don’t think you want your “hubby” skyping with me.

  96. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 8:46 am #

    wahwah you missed the point. I’m not trying to impress anyone, I’m just antagonizing everyone for the fun of it. My life is boring as hell for the most part.

  97. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 8:49 am #

    Laura I’m sure you are pretty attractive if you look good in mod dresses. I was referring to Condom who insulted my husband’s physical attributes when in reality he probably wouldn’t boink her with a stolen c**k, if anything for fear that she’d bite it off!

  98. uh-huh June 18, 2010 at 8:53 am #

    So you’re not going to address our questions along the lines of ‘don’t you care about your shop quality, your customers, and the overall reputation of Etsy having quality items’? Or did I miss that somewhere in the midst of the antagonizing…..

  99. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 9:01 am #

    uh-huh I already addressed that about ten times in this thread. I made a couple mistakes dating items, I pulled them, and I promised to be better about researching going forward. I am infinitely grateful to Etsy and my customers for everything they’ve done for me. I treat them all extremely well.

    But to lump a reputable seller that made a couple mistakes into the same category as a pop-up store full of mass-produced Chinese bullshit is just dumb. I looked through Etsy forums last night and found a vintage seller with many more sales than me bitching about all the non-vintage junk on Etsy and found three things in her store that weren’t vintage, including a pair of shoes from Macy’s two years ago. One of the biggest sellers on Etsy sold Hannah Andersons in a different color just last week. We all make mistakes.

    I care more than anyone about Etsy staying quality, my income depends on it. But shops like mine that occasionally make a mistake are not what is ruining the site.

  100. uh-huh June 18, 2010 at 9:07 am #

    Ok, well I guess you’ve established your reputableness in a weird wacky way that has left at least me shaking a head. I can understand you’d be upset appearing on this blog but your reaction has been all over the place. Re-reading some of you posts it seems you’re coming from 20 directions at once. The husband thing… speechless here.
    If you’d only stuck with ‘oh shit my bad, won’t happen again, glad you pointed it out’….. regardless of what anybody else said that put you down, I think this would not have fireballed or whatever it is that happened.
    The intentions here are mostly good – we want the site clean, let’s all work on that without going batshit insane.

  101. etsycallout June 18, 2010 at 9:13 am #

    I highly doubt it’s going to convince anyone except a few people that read this that I’m unprofessional. Then they’ll just go look at my feedback and change their minds.
    ______________________________________________________________
    Oh honey, this is not a feedback issue. If you’ve successfully conned someone into buying something they don’t know any better than to give you positive feedback. They will read vintage misuse here and be notified that this occurs in your shop.
    People aren’t desperate to find a vintage shop on Etsy- I would really take caution with your blase’ attitude that nobody is going to think you are unprofessional. With the pretend husband showing up, talking about his manhood, being drunk etc. “Where professionalism is due, it is delivered.” Um, okay.
    Shocking to see that you don’t even understand that you are presenting yourself to the public pretending to be other people or talking about cock or your husband having sexual encounters with other posters. Really?!
    Stay classy.

    Sure you might still get a sale still but at least they are alerted to the fact that you don’t know your vintage from brand new. And as they always say, knowledge is power.

  102. etsycallout June 18, 2010 at 9:14 am #

    And if you ever want to ichat or skype with me and hubby you’ve got my email!
    ____________________________________________________________
    Yes, it is amazing how quickly (was it about every 2-3 minutes) you two can fully switch places on the computer and talk.

  103. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 9:22 am #

    Like i said, no professionalism due to you. It’s just a smack-talking blog, even if my comments are published on the internet. Besides, Condom started the whole thing about my husband having a vagina =) Maybe you should keep your fans in check! BTW I get this feeling that half the people on here are probably paid by either you or Artfire to do this. No reasonable person would spend that much time doing this otherwise.

  104. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 9:25 am #

    Callout you want to chat with us in about 20 minutes after I go comb my hair? I’m dead serious. Pick a time, I’ll even wait for your lunch break.

  105. etsycallout June 18, 2010 at 9:52 am #

    So because I’m on here as much as you I’m unreasonable? You have posted at 7:52, 8:18, 8:22, 8:46, 8:49, 9:01, 9:22 & 9:25 just this morning. I haven’t seen you be able to go any length of time without posting so what’s your excuse?

    Why would I pay people? Obviously because we can’t call out on the forums this blog is going to have a lot of posters. Yesterday 2,300 people saw your posts. Believe it or not we care about Etsy and we post on everything, not just you. And you made me laugh with “Besides, Condom started the whole thing”….are you seriously like 5?!

  106. Bedazzled VONdom June 18, 2010 at 9:53 am #

    “I was referring to Condom who insulted my husband’s physical attributes when in reality he probably wouldn’t boink her with a stolen c**k, if anything for fear that she’d bite it off!”

    He’s probably too tired from working soooo hard and drinking with his buddies to fuck anything.

    Seriously though, here are the facts. You posted with a different name (Dani) under the same IP number. You were busted. You did it again, this time claiming that both posts were made by your husband. (It’s pretty sleazy to blame things on a man you profess to love, isn’t it?)

    I said:

    “I bet you ten bucks David has a vagina.” Which means, I knew it was YOU once again pretending to be someone else.

    You said:

    “I assure he you he does not. If I sent you proof, you’d be even more jealous and upset. But thanks for proving his point.”

    Which means, you missed the innuendo and ASSumed I actually give a damn about the size of your husband’s penis and want to see a photo of said penis. ICK.

    You then posted a link to your blog which contained a photo (clothed, thankfully) of your husband. You INVITED me to go look at your husband’s photo. I suppose you wanted me to drool over him or something? Who knows. I did go took a look.

    You then removed your blog completely, before anything was said or posted. A typical whackadoodle, Sharpie eyebrow reaction.

    I was honest, barrel chested, overweight men do nothing for me. Especially when they are short. (I hope for your sake he has a large cock because you should have some perks.)

    Lesson learned, if you don’t want people to know you married a fat man who won’t work, don’t spill your guts and then invite them to offer an opinion.

    That’s your Internet 101 lesson for the day. Now put down that box of doughnuts (you could stand a bit of calorie restriction as well) and go get to work on your thriving business!

  107. Bedazzled VONdom June 18, 2010 at 10:01 am #

    “I made a couple mistakes dating items, I pulled them, and I promised to be better about researching going forward.”

    I’ll say it once again for the slow learners. YOU STILL HAVE NON-VINTAGE ITEMS LISTED IN YOUR ETSY SHOP.

  108. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 10:10 am #

    This is the whole problem I was talking about. You’ll all sit around saying whatever you want because you have a blog to hide behind, but none of you would have enough guts to say all these things face to face. You guys wouldn’t even show your face anywhere, because you’d be afraid someone would call you fat or ugly or say you have ugly shoes.

    Callout you’re on here because you run the thing, obviously. If you have better things to do than rip on people, then go do it. But you won’t even extend me the courtesy of a real conversation when you run this blog and chose to get involved in the thread? Surely there’s been another pissed off seller that’s wanted to chat with you face to face. I’m on here this much because I am not going to get chased out of an online forum with my tail between my legs by a bunch of internet critics.

  109. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 10:13 am #

    and my blog is back up if you guys want to go make fun of my physical appearance. another experienced seller friend of mine talked me out of letting this experience affect my marketing efforts.

  110. Nicole June 18, 2010 at 10:55 am #

    ‘I looked through Etsy forums last night and found a vintage seller with many more sales than me bitching about all the non-vintage junk on Etsy and found three things in her store that weren’t vintage, including a pair of shoes from Macy’s two years ago. One of the biggest sellers on Etsy sold Hannah Andersons in a different color just last week. We all make mistakes. ‘

    You’re digging yourself so deep. Your statement above seals the conclusion I’d already come to, which is that you don’t give a shit about running a genuine vintage store. You’re more concerned about what you can get away with selling, and you’ve tracked what other vintage sellers get away with and want in on it. Yeah, you all make ‘mistakes’, if lying to people who don’t know any better is considered a mistake.

  111. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 11:00 am #

    I didn’t say that. I’m saying that even bigger stores with more sales sell things on accident that they don’t know aren’t vintage. Why would a seller go into forums and open herself up to criticism if she knew she had things in her shop that weren’t vintage? The point is, she didn’t know. And neither did the other seller that sold the clogs (which I found out about after I’d already taken mine down.)

  112. Nicole June 18, 2010 at 11:05 am #

    So what is it that made you realize that your listings were ‘mistakes’? What information did you have about them after you read this blog, that you didn’t have when you listed the items? I cannot believe that you suddenly realized the items you removed were not vintage until you found this blog post.

  113. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 11:13 am #

    People linked me to sites where they found them still online. My careless lack of in-depth research was what caused the error, and once I was indefinitely proven wrong I took the things down, plus all the other things where there was a margin for error. Vondom is insisting that there are things in there that aren’t vintage still, but I don’t see any more problems. The Betsey Johnson dress could be 18 or 19 years old instead of 20? What else in the shop are you guys seeing that you don’t think is legit?

  114. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 11:18 am #

    If you guys can legitimately prove things in my store aren’t vintage, I will gladly take them down. Otherwise it just comes down to a matter of an educated guess, and I am not willing to trust the judgment of people I don’t know over my own.

  115. detroit June 18, 2010 at 11:18 am #

    Ooh! Oooh! ECO mod – where’s my check? I’d LOVE to get paid! lol.

    Bedazzled condom, what’s with all the sharpie eyebrow comments? OHMAIGAAAH!! ¿Are you una chonga?

    I LOVE crazy fashion subcultures! Long viva la chola! Without people like them, the world would be populated by a bland army of twee hipsters.

  116. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 12:00 pm #

    And bedazzled condom, my husband is 6 feet tall and finishing his JD this year; he supported me before we were married when I was finishing my degree and I’m returning the favor, happily. Not that you care. Can you please send me your picture please? I’m willing to bet you’re no looker. I didn’t ask for your opinion on my weight or his looks. Seriously, if you’re going to go there you better be really, really attractive. I want to see what you look like. Do you have a blog or something?

  117. Em June 18, 2010 at 12:49 pm #

    I’ve been following this the entire time, but all I can say is: WJW.

  118. Bedazzled VONdom June 18, 2010 at 12:55 pm #

    “Can you please send me your picture please? I’m willing to bet you’re no looker. I didn’t ask for your opinion on my weight or his looks. Seriously, if you’re going to go there you better be really, really attractive. I want to see what you look like. Do you have a blog or something?”

    Tsk, tsk. I just added one more lie to your rather lengthy Liar’s Resume.

    You may be surprised to learn that honest people don’t rely on constant proclamations of their honesty. They just don’t lie in the first place.

    I am not an emotionally needy wreck in need of affirmation from internet strangers. If I ever become an emotionally needy wreck in need of affirmation, I will be sure to let you know.

    We obviously have different ideas of what constitutes a desirable man. I can accept that. Quite happily. Someone has to marry/fuck/support the losers.

    P.S. Do your own damn homework, you lazy twit.

  119. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 1:08 pm #

    You obviously are an emotionally needy wreck asking for confirmation from strangers because you are on here all the time trying to sound clever when really you just sound like a major bitch. For a whole freakin year. Still waiting for that picture, if you were attractive you would send it. We all know you’re just some tired old hag with nothing better to do. I want a picture or your rich, sexy husband and a copy of his paystub too! And by husband I actually meant all the rabid cats you sleep with at night.

    You clearly haven’t accomplished anything worthwhile in your life if you have the desire to sit around and do this all day long. Do you have a JD? Do you have a business? What DO you do?

  120. detroit June 18, 2010 at 2:27 pm #

    Bedazzled condom – go sit down.

  121. thegreedyseagull June 18, 2010 at 2:36 pm #

    Thanks detroit.

    For all future responses, please reference this link: http://thegreedyseagull.blogspot.com/2010/06/off-to-lake.html

  122. Laura June 18, 2010 at 3:48 pm #

    Ok, while I am not for the all the personal insults…I actually think bedazzled always sound pretty clever. Those last few lines are hysterical!

  123. Bedazzled VONdom June 18, 2010 at 4:53 pm #

    “Bedazzled condom – go sit down.”

    It’s VONdom, hon. VON, as in VONLADY. Yes, I am paying tribute to the original SCREAMING SHARPIE EYEBROW ETSY RESELLING WHACKJOB.

    Greedy-Dani-David could learn a thing or two from VONLADY.

    VONLADY ROCKS!

    Also, most people do sit down to use a computer and I am no exception. Thanks for your concern though. I am touched.

  124. Bedazzled VONdom June 18, 2010 at 4:58 pm #

    “A&F: Any tips for people who are thinking about getting into vintage selling themselves?

    The Greedy Seagull: Accountability is my mantra. A lot of my business consists of repeat buyers because I stand behind my products. People will eventually trust your taste if you consistently deliver what you are advertising.”

    I’m actually laughing out loud!

  125. detroit June 18, 2010 at 5:25 pm #

    Bedazzled VONdom Says:
    June 18, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    I am touched.
    __________________________

    Hee hee.

    Yes, HUN. I know of Von Lady. She was a compelling figure.

    Though I don’t remember the details that well. She typed in caps locks, had a disability (allegedly), or sold items to support someone with a disability??

    Was she cuban or something? Is that the origin of the sharpie eyebrow jokes that aren’t that funny?

    Anyhow. You see, in calling you ‘condom’ (after greedy), I was engaging in a mild form of a joke. You know, jest. Kidding, ribbing. Goofin on ya. Funnin. Playin.

    Yes, Laura, I agree Condom can be funny. And Greedy seems to be taking things in stride. But it I kinda think, when it comes to someone you don’t know – making fun of their weight / appearance / loved one is just picking low hanging fruit. Not particularly clever.

    Okay – well. Not to make you jealous of my fabulous life or anything…but, after finishing up posting here at 9:30 on a Friday night, I’m gonna open the large size bottle of wine (you know – like 2-in-1, extra cheap), and watch netflix videos. With my cats and my sweaty, overweight partner. Woot!

  126. Penny June 18, 2010 at 5:27 pm #

    If you guys can legitimately prove things in my store aren’t vintage, I will gladly take them down. Otherwise it just comes down to a matter of an educated guess, and I am not willing to trust the judgment of people I don’t know over my own.
    ______________________________________________________
    Because it’s served you so well in the past right???

  127. Bedazzled VONdom June 18, 2010 at 6:40 pm #

    “Anyhow. You see, in calling you ‘condom’ (after greedy), I was engaging in a mild form of a joke. You know, jest. Kidding, ribbing. Goofin on ya. Funnin. Playin.”

    Jokes are supposed to be funny.

    Not to mention that if you had been paying attention all along, you would know that my original name was Bedazzled Condom and you would know why that name was originally chosen and you would know that many of nitwits who visit this board have tried to make funny albeit passive aggressive “jokes” about condoms and you would know that none have succeeded and you probably would have left said “jokes” to the OTHER nitwits.

    I don’t expect much from Greedy-Dani-David* but really, shouldn’t you know better by now?

    “But it I kinda think, when it comes to someone you don’t know – making fun of their weight / appearance / loved one is just picking low hanging fruit.”

    Here’s how it works. If you tell me I will be jealous because you married a good looking man with a large package, don’t be surprised if I am not impressed by a Baby Huey who lacks a discernible neck.

    *though maybe I should. After all, even though she’s too busy to research her product properly, she was still able to read an entire year’s worth of COOE comments in a very short period of time. She may have some superhuman powers after all!

  128. detroit June 19, 2010 at 9:35 am #

    Bedazzled VONdom Says:
    June 18, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    I don’t expect much from Greedy-Dani-David* but really, shouldn’t you know better by now?
    _________________________________________

    Yes MAAM! I’ll try harder going forward.

  129. stinkypants June 21, 2010 at 1:12 pm #

    I am fat and pretty, Greedy. Now, my shoes might not dazzle at a wine and cheese party where one dances to Gaga and Prince ( oh my god, how does one get invited to such an amazing event?! ), while my MANLY MAN hubby is out being MANLY MANLY, watchin’ him sum sports, but I think they look OK. Ha. Beard marriage?

    You call your amazing man overweight, and then slam somebody else for maybe being fat, which is I guess is supposed to be an insult. Errrrrr.

    Getting the feeling the only thing your David slides in you is the cigar in that photo.

    OK, that was fun, and a few days late.

  130. Mica September 15, 2010 at 12:33 am #

    This has got to be the MOST pathetic thread of comments I have seen from “grown women.” Just because we’re on the net doesn’t mean we can revert back to high school tactics. Chill your butts down, or better yet, step away from the keyboard and inhale, then exhale.

    Whether her items are vintage or not, she is NOT the only shop that posts modern retail items. Calling out ONE woman, as well as insulting her family, livelihood, and ESPECIALLY her husband; is not going to stop false IDs or rule-breakers.

    Some of these comments are shameless and incredibly disappointing, please, for the love of all things holy and good, grow up.

    I’m sure ALL OF YOU (yes, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU who decided to cast stones at one woman who was cornered by a bunch of over-grown bullies,) are sensible when you’re not full of estrogen and alcohol, so try acting like it.

    Impressions are lasting, and on the internet they’re public and WILL NOT fade with age.

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