Quick Links 7/3- kawaiiFashionistas, tiebtenlovers, TresorsExotiques

3 Jul

*****Hong Kong’s I Love Tibet tiebtenlovers (btw, isn’t that supposed to be tiebeten?) http://www.etsy.com/shop/tiebtenlover

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http://www.etsy.com/shop/kawaiiFashionistas

selling fake tiffany and brand new clothing with the wholesaler/designer name on the pictures.

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http://www.etsy.com/shop/TresorsExotiques

Shop Announcement- Trésors ExotiQues is committed to providing the highest quality Moroccan interiors, jewelry and home decor products through our highly skilled and dedicated Moroccan artisans.

All photos are watermarked with their website URL as well.

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68 Responses to “Quick Links 7/3- kawaiiFashionistas, tiebtenlovers, TresorsExotiques”

  1. laughinglaughing July 3, 2010 at 9:31 am #

    Reported to Tiffany’s via email on their site. Not sure what will come of it, but I tried.

    I kind of hate having to “heart” a store just in order to watch it in order to make sure it gets taken care of, but oh well

  2. notvintage July 3, 2010 at 9:49 am #

    All three are against TOU. Big surprise, and on a weekend, too. ROLF!

  3. Blue Kitty July 3, 2010 at 9:56 am #

    I would like to add this to the Quick Links

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/worrydolls2005

    From her profile..

    “Hi, my name is JoAnn and I import and sell Worry Dolls from Guatemala. In 1989 I had the wonderful opportunity of being the buyer, designer for Barry Greenberg father of the “Trouble Dolls”. I had lived in Mexico for 28 years and was fluent in Spanish and was a fashion accessories designer and importer so being his designer was right up my alley. When Barry passed away in 1993 I kept buying the dolls because the doll makers needed to eat. And I’m still buying the dolls.”

    No doubt making a good profit on them as well while selling them on Etsy in either the handmade ‘Dolls & Miniatures’ category or as supplies (which they aren’t as they are finished little dolls)

  4. wahwah July 3, 2010 at 10:20 am #

    Well they know that everyone in Brooklyn is taking a long weekend for the holiday and will be too hung-over on Tues to do anything about the resellers. Not that they would anyway.

  5. Life During Wartime July 3, 2010 at 10:41 am #

    The holiday weekend is no excuse for kawaiifashionistas. The shop has been open for a couple of weeks (first item listed was on June 15). And why doesn’t the SCAMbot look for Tiffany under handmade jewelry? Just like it should look for LV and other brands under handmade bags and purses?

  6. wahwah July 3, 2010 at 11:17 am #

    I don’t believe this SCAMbot exists. It’s like the Easterbunny, just something to appease the peons.

  7. detroit July 3, 2010 at 11:26 am #

    Wait….what are you saying about the Easter bunny?

  8. wahwah July 3, 2010 at 11:52 am #

    Oops, I’m sorry. I spilled the jelly beans.

  9. blood, sweat and tears July 3, 2010 at 12:08 pm #

    tietebetieam has left the building! i just flagged the whole shop, and went checking a few other resellers, and when i refreshe the t shop, it was UH OH!!! my particular comment unpon flagging was ‘nip it in the bud.’ glad i could see them before they got axed, will recognize them next time…..

  10. Blue Kitty July 3, 2010 at 1:47 pm #

    Admin are definitely improving, there’s still a long way to go but its good to see some of these fairly quick “uh oh” on shops that are really bad cases

  11. Life During Wartime July 3, 2010 at 1:51 pm #

    It’s great that tiebtenlovers is gone, but…what about reselling at Tiffany’s?

    I agree, Detroit, that the SCRAMbot is a myth. Or the dudes (non-gender specific) who programmed it are clueless.

  12. Cosmic Yuk July 3, 2010 at 3:27 pm #

    Life During Wartime Says:
    July 3, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    It’s great that tiebtenlovers is gone, but…what about reselling at Tiffany’s?

    I agree, Detroit, that the SCRAMbot is a myth. Or the dudes (non-gender specific) who programmed it are clueless.
    __________________________________________________________

    Seeing as everything they program is the epitome of failure, does it really surprise anyone that if it exists at all, it’s not going to do the job it was supposed to?

    Maybe it’s configured like ‘suggested favorites’, you know, that have nothing to do with what you actually marked.

    And SEO, Search and category structure is just so finely crafted and efficient……………….

  13. EtsyBurnout July 3, 2010 at 5:55 pm #

    Found this in kawaiiFashionistas policy section-

    “i am offer also for whole sale our company is from hongkong and china those items will be deliver directly to your home..once the payment is clear..and i am offer also for PRE-ORDER..thank you”

    If that doesn’t cry reselling, I don’t know what does!

  14. Disgusted July 3, 2010 at 6:36 pm #

    Then we have this:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/50754978/twilight-new-moon-eclipse-set-2-domino
    Besides just blatantly stealing images, there is a quasi-disclaimer:” I do not own the license to these images. You are paying for my TIME resizing, editing, etc..”
    As if this makes it ok to steal and sell images.

  15. Lisa July 3, 2010 at 9:41 pm #

    How funny. They actually have the balls to watermark the stolen images! Wow…

  16. Amused July 3, 2010 at 9:55 pm #

    Idea2lifestyle on front page

  17. Disney report here July 4, 2010 at 8:00 am #

    Here’s part of an email from Disney:

    Please feel free to use our email address tips@disneyantipiracy.com
    or our Antipiracy voice mail hotline, 818-560-3300,

    if you want to provide more information about the suspected infringement or to report a suspected infringement in the future.

  18. notvintage July 4, 2010 at 9:16 am #

    re: Idea2lifestyle:
    Somebody explain to me what the numbers are supposed to mean in those listings? Are they cataolog order numbers, or WTF?


    Currently our team members are:
    Joey(main contact, model and muse), Lu feng(paterning for new designs and team leader of making), Wu, Chen sisters(sewing), gerald(designing, shipping), gerald’s dad(regular fabric ordering, preshrinking and shipping) and mum(traditional frogclosure making, embroidering, stitching buttons, ironing, QC and packing).
    We take part in every part of the every piece, so the piece is designed and made by our team instead of individual.”

    What makes anyone think these
    a.) might be real people?
    b.) think of themselves as ‘team members” instead of employees?
    c.) show either coaching or altering to fit the venue?

    These are rhetorical questions, because I don’t believe any of this shit. The only people who buy stuff like this from stores like this is to get a bargain without leaving the house. None of this clothing is creative, original design, handsewn, fair trade, or anything but mass market appeal.
    The world we are living in is full of people without taste, without style, without ethics, and without skill who are primed to take advantage of anything and anyone they can.
    have at it– Informed customers will ignore the shit.
    What we hate is Etsy FEATURING this shit and doing more harm to the “original concept” than helping it. That is, if the original concept was really about handmade and not about MAKING MONEY FOR ROB AND HIS INVESTORS.

    Bottom line, it’s a rough world out there. Etsy Corp is just another sweatshop; congrats Rob Kalin, great job and thanks.

  19. Life During Wartime July 4, 2010 at 10:04 am #

    ^^^My reaction is pretty much the same as Notvintage.

    What really bums me out is that Rob and company specifically stated that Etsy was supposed to be a venue for handmade items where artists and crafters would not have to compete on the same site with mass produced trendoid merchandise.

    Starting out with a vague plan and growing into a different business model…well, it happens. But to turn a 180 on their mission statement without communicating that they are intentionally doing this to the sellers (and buyers) is cowardly and dishonest.

  20. notvintage July 4, 2010 at 10:33 am #

    Cowardly and dishonest = more chances to make money and pimp the people who actually create what they sell.

  21. detroit July 4, 2010 at 11:47 am #

    Idea2lifestyle always just smelled ‘off’ to me.

    Did you all see Lotus’ post from the Geisha thread?

    “Lotus Says:
    June 30, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    Very funny! idea2lifestyle in Etsy are also selling knock out items from the original designer which is rip studio in China but survived very well …idea2lifestyle steal the design/photo then hire people to customize/sell…I personally know the original label owner in China – she is furious…but sadly Etsy doesn’t care.””

    And:

    “Lotus Says:
    July 1, 2010 at 11:41 am

    theeyesseeit – i think idea2lifestyle does have a workshop because they customize and handmade. But they steal Rip studio’s design even photo. The original label owner is actually also modeling many of her clothing in those photos which idea2lifestyle uses in their etsy shop….We did flag them but no luck. i suspect rip studio would sue etsy if this continues since they have an authorized seller in the States.”

    Something ain’t right here….

  22. detroit July 4, 2010 at 11:51 am #

    So, RIP studio is a popular brand in China. Idea2lifestyle is just stealing their pictures, and replicating the items?

    Or, are they actually getting items off the back of the truck / out the back door of the factory? And reselling.

    Either way, not right.

    Any Chinese speakers here who can untangle this?

  23. detroit July 4, 2010 at 11:54 am #

    LOL – and yes, I’m looking on this site on 4th of July (down with England!) Loser! Ha!

    But, I did just eat so much I’m about to burst, so I needed to sit down and take a break.

  24. linda July 4, 2010 at 12:59 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/CrossStitchOutlet?ref=seller_info

    All things that are sold in stores. Saw a bunch in the clearance at JoAnns!

  25. notvintage July 4, 2010 at 1:22 pm #

    Another person who does not bother to read the tag instructions or is confused by the SHITTY DROP DOWN MENU. OR someone trying to sell junk that you can buy at Ben Franklin.

    These are in the handmade category. http://www.etsy.com/listing/50338537/needlepoint-kit-happy-snowman-stocking
    Somebody needs to send her a friendly message.

  26. Life During Wartime July 4, 2010 at 3:07 pm #

    But the kits are okay as Supplies, right? The Supplies thing still confuses me…

  27. Cat Power July 4, 2010 at 3:50 pm #

    The kits are fine in the Supplies, Commercial category, I believe. I just sent a friendly note to the seller about being in the wrong category. We’ll see if I get a Thank you or a Mind Your own beeswax answer!

  28. linda July 4, 2010 at 10:42 pm #

    Looks like she’s now tagged them properly. YAY.

  29. Cat Power July 4, 2010 at 10:49 pm #

    Got a note thanking me for my suggestion. they were confused, and didn’t realize that all those categories were just for handmade.

    So I guess it does help to send a polite note offering help to a newb.

  30. notvintage July 5, 2010 at 4:13 am #

    …unless you get a zinger who doesn’t like it. They will report you and etsy will shut your shop down.
    This happens!

  31. notvintage July 5, 2010 at 4:22 am #

    IBFTL;

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6565789

  32. wahwah July 5, 2010 at 5:00 am #

    Wow MonikersIncorporated is so smart. No one else could have figured out that she was using a sock puppet acct. Whatever it takes to get etsy’s attention, not that it will work with this seller.

  33. Tired of all this shit July 5, 2010 at 8:43 am #

    Seller totally calls herself out for making reproductions of designer dresses. http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6561941

  34. ohboy July 5, 2010 at 9:24 am #

    My interpretation is that all shops that contain a numeral in their name ideas2lifestyle (whatever) creations4you, blah blah blah those are all made-in-china stuff.

    seriously. check it out.

  35. notvintage July 5, 2010 at 10:07 am #

    Interesting how people go on ‘vacations’ or semi-vacations’ as soon as they are busted.

    Anyone who buys something tagged ‘wedding’ on Etsy is taking their chances. Wedding teams do not police their own members. Want a wedding gown for a few hundred dollars? Get your mother to make it for you.

  36. stinkypants July 5, 2010 at 10:14 am #

    The woman doing the reproductions is also using pictures from the J Crew site.

  37. Life During Wartime July 5, 2010 at 10:27 am #

    These are the names with numbers in my reseller folder:

    yinyue123
    FA2u
    xishao550 (items disappeared, but shop is there)
    shishishi333 (items disappeared, but shop is there)
    perfectshopping123
    baskets8899 (been featured by Etsy)
    fashion2idea (items disappeared, but shop is there)
    wholesale2010 (items disappeared, but shop is there)
    empire33
    petitgift4u
    Ilove2win

    This is a very small percentage of the shops in the folder. Are there any on this list that look legit to you?

  38. legitCRAP July 5, 2010 at 11:10 am #

    Ilove2win- totally legit

    also lazy, no descriptions worth a darn, doesn’t care what items are made of (icky fabric, cheap yarn) low-budget items and so few that this store has to be legit.

  39. notvintage July 5, 2010 at 11:34 am #

    “Too Legit to Quit”

  40. Life During Wartime July 5, 2010 at 11:47 am #

    Thanks, legitCRAP! I wondered about the variety of skills required to make the items and the low low prices. But I know some people make stuff mostly because they enjoy doing it, and aren’t doing it primarily to make money.

  41. notvintage July 5, 2010 at 12:04 pm #

    “But I know some people make stuff mostly because they enjoy doing it, and aren’t doing it primarily to make money.”

    The ones who enjoy doing it are not spending their time dealing with thousands of sales, which entails doing scut-work that is not so much fun. the resellers are pretty easy to spot….

  42. detroit July 5, 2010 at 1:52 pm #

    notvintage Says:
    July 5, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    “which entails doing scut-work”
    __________________________________

    Should I be embarrassed to admit I’ve never encountered the term ‘scut-work’ before.

    I just asked DH if he’d heard of it, and he said yes. Making me feel extra stupider – lol.

    Okay – this is what a sucker I am, and, as always, I blame Etsy for anything bad that happens:

    See, the stores like idea2lifestyle have been allowed by Etsy to go on for so long, that I now wonder if there are some families dependent on the store for their livelihood. It’s tough there in China. Very, very competitive.

    If Etsy hadn’t allowed this BS to go on in the first place, these people in China, etc. would’ve figured out something else to do.

    But now they may be dependent on the income.

    I way over empathize with strangers. Ha ha.

    But, this is all a hobby for the army of pale Brooklyn weenies with trust funds running Etsy (when I lived there, I couldn’t believe how may 29 year-olds I met who’s parents were sending them ‘allowance’). But, for some people with shops, Etsy is their sole income.

    So, when Etsy fucks around, is capricious, changes their minds every 2 minutes, vindictively closes shops – they seem to have no concept that this shit is SERIOUS for some people, For many it’s their only paycheck.

    And for some from developing nations, who they’ve allowed to get away with reselling, it could be really devastating when, one day, Etsy decides to finally enforce their rules. Because it’s Tuesday, or their soy latte was bad, or whatever, so they decide to take it out on a shop.

    I think Etsy needs some diversity. Some people with more perspective. Different ages and backgrounds. And priorities beyond liveblogging on their Ipad about the girl with rad tattoos they saw at the tapas bar last night…

  43. detroit July 5, 2010 at 1:57 pm #

    Sorry, not that I’m empathizing with resellers, or saying they should be allowed to stay open. Absolutely not.

    Just saying that the fact that Etsy has allowed this to go on for so long (years in some cases) has additional bad consequences that I’m sure ‘ironic-nerd-glasses’ Marcus in the Department of Random Shop Closings, and Reseller Opening never could even conceive of.

  44. notvintage July 5, 2010 at 5:58 pm #

    I understand what you are saying Detroit, but I am familiar with JKDesigns’ neighborhood, and it is POSH. They are not hurting at all, just taking advantage and passing it on. Unless having to pack up everything hurts somebody’s manicured nails….
    You would have to feel sorry for an entire country! Not the reseller– they are obviously doing very well and probably doing a better than 100% markup on the goods they sell.
    It’s hard to defend Capitalism when it’s the age-old pyramid of those who have and those who don’t.

    “Them that’s got shall get
    Them that’s not shall lose
    So the Bible said and it still is news
    Mama may have, Papa may have
    But God bless the child that’s got his own
    That’s got his own

    Yes, the strong gets more
    While the weak ones fade
    Empty pockets don’t ever make the grade
    Mama may have, Papa may have
    But God bless the child that’s got his own
    That’s got his own

    Money, you’ve got lots of friends
    Crowding round the door
    When you’re gone, spending ends
    They don’t come no more
    Rich relations give
    Crust of bread and such
    You can help yourself
    But don’t take too much
    Mama may have, Papa may have
    But God bless the child that’s got his own
    That’s got his own”

    And the ‘scut work’ term shows my age– it’s an oldie like me.

  45. sad July 5, 2010 at 8:08 pm #

    Just was going through my fave folder and checked in on this seller. I wonder what the heck happened.

    http://www.etsy.com/people/nexilis/feedback

  46. wow July 5, 2010 at 8:10 pm #

    what you thing about this shop?
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/elohar

    I did a google search and found this page and an ebay shop
    http://stores.ebay.com/ELOHAR-INTERNATIONAL-CORP
    http://www.eloharjewelry.com/
    +1000 sales and a member since ’08 :/

    and also this one
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/melitere
    http://stores.ebay.com/melitere

    I’m a new seller on etsy, I didn’t know this things happened…Glad I found this blog!

  47. notvintage July 6, 2010 at 9:36 am #

    These used shoes are upcycled? How, by adding toe jam stains?

  48. Life During Wartime July 6, 2010 at 9:44 am #

    Most items on Etsy tagged as ‘upcycled’ aren’t; the stuff is either repurposed or just embellished. The word has about as much meaning for the shopper as ‘vintage’ or ‘handmade with love’. These shoes aren’t a classic style. There’s no doubt after one look at the photo that they are contemporary, rather than vintage, and I don’t even shop at Wal-mart.

  49. wahwah July 6, 2010 at 10:30 am #

    Even if she had embellished them (which she didn’t), she has them tagged as vintage. You can get a pair for 4.00 on ebay.

  50. Life During Wartime July 6, 2010 at 10:40 am #

    If you can get the shoes at a much lower price elsewhere, maybe she means ‘upcycled’ as used item resold at a higher priced venue than Ebay or Wal-mart.

    At least for thrift store faux vintage and reseller factory handmade, Etsy shoppers seem willing to pay many times the typical market price for items.

  51. MadeByM**** July 6, 2010 at 11:00 am #

    wahwah Says:
    July 6, 2010 at 9:23 am
    Walmart

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/45690975/reduced-earth-shoe-sandals-with-wooden?ref=v1_other_1

    *********************

    She’s being featured over at Regretsy at this very moment! LOL!

  52. detroit July 6, 2010 at 11:02 am #

    notvintage – you’re right. Etsy is just a service provided to make money for it’s owners. Period.

    I guess we just all get sucked in by thinking that Etsy is / was somehow supposed to be *different*. Not just about the bottom line, but about the ‘crafting movement’ and ‘upcycling’ and ‘green’.

    What a load of crap. Any giant business by it’s very nature wastes resources and cannot be individualistic.

    Etsy got WAY too big, WAY too fast. Lost sight of the whole point.

  53. detroit July 6, 2010 at 11:54 am #

    HOLY HELL!!!! Those toenails! Ahhhh.

    Good lord. I take it she never wears closed toe shoes. Ever?

    The regretsy picture really shows them off.

  54. wahwah July 6, 2010 at 12:29 pm #

    Ickyyyyyyyyyyyy!!

  55. sparkalicious July 6, 2010 at 2:19 pm #

    Those toenail comments on Regretsy cracked me up. “Edward Scissortoes”! LOL

  56. Life During Wartime July 6, 2010 at 2:32 pm #

    Etsy used shoes selling at its best!

  57. notvintage July 6, 2010 at 4:05 pm #

    They gone!

  58. JK July 6, 2010 at 6:38 pm #

    Wow, Sad — that’s some feedback! If people didn’t comment that they’d been in contact with the ‘seller’, I’d wonder if she’d died or been kidnapped by aliens or something. I’ve always wondered if people who go from selling to that plan it in advance or if they just can’t handle the work.

  59. bellacruz July 6, 2010 at 7:05 pm #

    Self call out in progress:

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6567193&page=14

  60. notvintage July 6, 2010 at 7:36 pm #

    These threads (http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6567193&page=12) are hilarious in a dark comedy sort of way. What the fuck are they thinking? That we are as blind as Etsy Admin either are or choose to be??????

  61. notvintage July 6, 2010 at 8:10 pm #

    Notice that RobW didn’t bother citing the TOUs when he shut that down. He’s a jerk.

  62. wahwah July 6, 2010 at 8:21 pm #

    When I first started visiting the forums, I thought Rob was a homely hipster chick. LOL

  63. notvintage July 7, 2010 at 6:40 am #

    homely, check
    hipster, check

  64. box o' cookies July 7, 2010 at 7:14 am #

    I wish I had the time and energy 🙂

    It would be really cool to make a site that has screen shots of these types of shops, pre and post ‘flag’ , when they go into vacation mode and then come back ‘etsy legal’.
    (accompanied by links to all the times they’ve called themselves out in the forums)

    i hope somebody takes this idea and runs with it, if it doesnt exist already.

  65. Freckleyredhead July 8, 2010 at 7:57 am #

    Wish I had the time, box! But by the time I get to some of these call outs, they’re ususally already on vacation mode.

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