22 Jul

While this seller DOES have some nice, unique items, it seems a lot of her things are blatant copyright infringements.

This section calls itself out….True Blood and Twilight
The images are just simply stolen, not even creative.

This section seems to be the worst:
All of the images used in her buttons are stolen from commercial websites. Most seem to be rip-offs of Tshirt images from Spencers, Hot Topic, Tshirt Hell, Snorgtees, and other known places with funny Tees.
Then of course there’s Disney, Dora, Hello Kitty….

And I’m SURE that all of these have been approved by the CPSIA, too…


22 Responses to “SincerelyApril”

  1. tenley July 22, 2010 at 1:01 pm #

    a lot of shops on etsy have the same problem, copyright infringement.

  2. Life During Wartime July 22, 2010 at 1:03 pm #

    These are pop culture items, though, so you have to expect they might include copyrighted images. Not saying it’s right, but it’s not surprising.

  3. Akhenaten July 22, 2010 at 1:11 pm #

    I get SO sick of people ripping off popular culture imagery and subjects. It’s one thing to Warhol it, another thing to totally rip it off.

    And I’m especially sick of the Team fucking Jacob / Edward shit. Come up with your own dumb ideas, people.

  4. Akhenaten July 22, 2010 at 1:13 pm #

    Also, the discussion about being able to have employees making your products on Etsy continues.

    Here are some updates:

    New thread discussing it, will probably get closed:

    The original thread, closed a few minutes ago. Page 66 contains stellaloella’s post that started things rollind downhill

    another thread about it, now cloased.

    I wonder what that video is that goatmountainart mentions in the newest thread on the topic? SHe mentions it on like page 2 or 3. I’d love to see that, with Fred Whatshisname discussing the future nature of Etsy. Anyone here have the video link?

  5. KR July 22, 2010 at 3:27 pm #

    sorry to go off topic, but don’t know where to put this- I am in shock!………..from the forum

    Admin “lisajune’ says– That said, I’m going to wrap this up. In order to avoid negative public attention to our users we do like to avoid discussing specific instances of site abuse in the Forums, thanks!

    …..”avoid discussing specific instances of site abuse in the forums!!!????” What!!? Now we can’t say, what?, “resell” “mistag” whatever else. She also wants nothing “negative.” ?? Jeez

    What CAN be discussed in the forums?

  6. sick of cupcakes July 22, 2010 at 6:43 pm #

    I hate etsy so much.

  7. Inspector Yuk July 22, 2010 at 8:56 pm #

    Its a video I actually brought to light on my blog — here is the link to the video: the key comments start around 5:37 or so. I find the caption underneath the video interesting as well:

    “Fred discusses the return of Rob Kalin to Etsy and its development as a major e-commerce platform, as well as how to maintain the creativity center for a startup post-acquisition by another company.”

  8. sparkalicious July 22, 2010 at 9:43 pm #

    “What CAN be discussed in the forums?”


  9. Akhenaten July 23, 2010 at 1:52 am #

    Many thanks, CosmicYuk!

  10. Freckleyredhead July 23, 2010 at 5:26 am #

    Shaking my head. How can etsy deny the presence of resellers on their site?

    And how clever of them to turn the discussion away from blatant resellers into a nitpick discussion of “collectives” and employees and such. Way to distract from the real issue at hand.

  11. Blue Kitty July 23, 2010 at 6:01 am #

    If they allow people with workshops (factories) making goods under their supervision as far as I can see they might as well go the whole hog and allow anything.

  12. Cat Power July 23, 2010 at 7:07 am #

    Blue Kitty, I think they already have, and are just too chicken to tell us straight out.

    They say what they think we want to hear..”we don’t want resellers here any more than you” but then give them the go ahead as along as they write that they are a collective. It’s blatant misrepresentation, and the buying public is going to catch on sooner than they think.

    I’d say that this blog will have a lot fewer results posting about resellers and getting them “gone”, so you/we will have to stick to the fake vintage and tag stuffers for our call outs. It will serve no purpose to get ourselves worked up about the factory resellers, as they are now “golden”…sad, sad day!

  13. sick of cupcakes July 23, 2010 at 7:15 am #

    Basically, etsy is ebay without the whole auction thing.

  14. sick of cupcakes July 23, 2010 at 7:17 am #

    ….forgot to add…..I’m thinking that’s what Rob had planned all along. After all he obviously named the site as close to Ebay as he legally could.

  15. Inspector Yuk July 23, 2010 at 9:58 am #

    I honestly don’t think Kalin planned for any of this to happen. Based on the poor infrastructure and the lack of any foresight into even some of the most obvious of scenarios, I honestly think he thought this was just going to be one more project on his ‘bucket list’. I don’t think he expected it to take off like it did and I don’t think he ever planned on it being his life’s work.

    Why do you think he has so many other projects going on? Parachutes, Dopple and who knows what else? He’s a starter, not a finisher. He’s the energizing force behind the idea but he has no substance to see it through.

    This is why there is no leadership. Sure each ‘team’ has a leader, but who coordinates the teams? Who makes sure the teams are working on projects that coordinate what other teams are working on? Who establishes goals and outlines how the teams will accomplish this?

    I’m betting the answer is ‘no one’.

    I think we have no roadmap and no communication with Kalin b ecause he has to find out from the individual teams what they are working on and what their timeline is.

    Am I getting warm Rob?

  16. Amy July 23, 2010 at 10:34 am #

    I posted this on a post from a couple of days ago – a bit late in the day so I’ll post it here too:

    Re: the admin reseller debate. I was in chat with Matt earlier and as soon as resellers was mentioned he started talking about number of employees – just like Michelle. This seems to be their standard excuse. I can’t figure it out because to me whilst the issues are connected they are different.
    Problem 1: Resellers who have no involvement in the product they sell
    Problem 2: Sellers who have employees but have designed/partially made their items.
    From what Matt said it sounds like there is likely to be some change to the TOUs in relaiton to problem 2.
    In relation to problem 1 personally, I think they are in total denial.

  17. Life During Wartime July 23, 2010 at 12:13 pm #

    Amy, they are not in denial. HeyMichelle posted in one of the threads about the awesome amount of responsibility she felt for the financial well-being of shops that were reported to her. HeyMichelle didn’t want sellers who knowingly broke the site rules to be harmed financially when they were caught and reported!

    It appears this is why actual -resellers- (your Problem 1) have been coached on how to disguise their products from flaggers…so they won’t have to liquidate their SMC, or alibaba, Dollar store, or whatever source, inventory on Ebay for less than they might get on Etsy. Never mind that their listings often include statements about how they handmade the items they purchased for resale. Which is deceptive marketing, at best.

  18. dingbat July 23, 2010 at 1:19 pm #

    sick of cupcakes Says:
    July 23, 2010 at 7:17 am
    ….forgot to add…..I’m thinking that’s what Rob had planned all along. After all he obviously named the site as close to Ebay as he legally could.”

    I thought that years ago– came up with the name to garner ebay typos

  19. Toaster July 23, 2010 at 1:51 pm #

    HeyMichelle posted in one of the threads about the awesome amount of responsibility she felt for the financial well-being of shops that were reported to her. HeyMichelle didn’t want sellers who knowingly broke the site rules to be harmed financially when they were caught and reported!

    Oh brother. Etsy isn’t the only only venue where resellers can flog their wares. If they really wanted to ‘take responsibility’ for the resellers and get them off of the site they could point them towards sites that would be more appropriate for their non-handmade goods.

  20. JK July 23, 2010 at 2:01 pm #

    How sweet of her to care so much about resellers. Now, does she give a damn about people who sell genuine handmade or vintage and whose livelihoods depend on their wares not being hidden behind loads of resold crap?

  21. uh-huh July 24, 2010 at 5:27 am #

    Bleeding heart admin, more concerned about the perpetrators than the victims, which are legit sellers and unaware customers. But oh no, let’s protect the scammers.

  22. Life During Wartime July 24, 2010 at 2:57 pm #

    She may identify more closely with the resellers. Ethically challenged girls whose love of shopping qualified them for their careers.

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