daikhanbrocade, cuffdesign, jackjewelry

23 Jul

http://www.etsy.com/shop/daikhanhbrocade

This one is obvious, he had the factory address in his profile

http://www.etsy.com/shop/Cuffdesign

This one isn’t so obvious, but I’ve never seen grommets that perfect unless they’re factory done. Just sayin.
Oh, and on jackjewelry: http://www.etsy.com/shop/jackjewelryinc?ref=seller_info

check this out

http://www.tirings.com/boone-titanium-rings-41/titanium-rings-hardwood-inlays-50/

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82 Responses to “daikhanbrocade, cuffdesign, jackjewelry”

  1. sick of cupcakes July 23, 2010 at 9:34 am #

    I’ve tagged JackJewelry so many times my fingers hurt. They are there to stay.

  2. anon July 23, 2010 at 10:00 am #

    Does it really matter anymore. After the last couple days in the forums it has become clear to me that Etsy may have handmade artists selling there but that is not what they are about anymore. Factories are welcome on Etsy now. Yeah, Walmart or Target can’t open up shop but the people who sell to Walmart and Target can.

  3. Inspector Yuk July 23, 2010 at 10:17 am #

    Jack Jewelry is a blatant reseller, she got her wooden bangles from firemountain gems: http://www.firemountaingems.com/details.asp?PN=H202528JE

    What a fucking, no good liar. There is no way to justify her remaining on Etsy because she does not even fit even Etsy’s stupid definitions for collective or employee making all or part of an item. This is buying and reselling and lying and saying you are a jewelry designer.

  4. Inspector Yuk July 23, 2010 at 10:19 am #

    Anon, Firemountaingems can’t even come on and sell those bangles, because their employees didn’t make them. They bought them overseas and are reselling them.

  5. Staticcling July 23, 2010 at 10:20 am #

    Actually, there is a pinchy-type tool that sets perfect grommets. Just ask any SCA costume mistress.

  6. Michelle July 23, 2010 at 10:30 am #

    I don’t know about jackjewelry, maybe a blatant reseller, but I just ordered something custom from her.

  7. anon July 23, 2010 at 10:34 am #

    Yuk,

    That is true, but the company who makes them can open up on Etsy as long as they say they are a collective.

  8. sick of cupcakes July 23, 2010 at 11:16 am #

    Good luck Michelle, I just hope you googled first.

  9. Life During Wartime July 23, 2010 at 11:21 am #

    There still are hundreds, if not thousands, of actual resellers on Etsy. Shops that buy already made items from wholesale sources and list them as ‘handmade with love’ or some such crap. Etsy isn’t doing anything about them, even though they are not employers, collectives, or small family businesses.

    I just saw a Thai garment factory item on the FP. It’s over for Etsy as the site for real collectives and individual artisans. Next week is the start of the 90 days of Halloween on Etsy. Come November 1, Etsy will look even more like Alibaba.

    I mean, don’t you think a lot of handmade and vintage shops will leave once the overseas factory shops start loading up for the holidays? If a seller needs a new online presence for the holiday season, the time to start building it is now.

  10. Laura July 23, 2010 at 12:24 pm #

    Yes, I think the real handmade and vintage shops will leave. It’s a matter of time. Nothing shocks me anymore. Well, except this place: http://www.etsy.com/shop/martin1206

    So, just him and his wifey make these? For $4… yeah, okay.

  11. Blue Kitty July 23, 2010 at 1:07 pm #

    Laura Says:
    July 23, 2010 at 12:24 pm
    Yes, I think the real handmade and vintage shops will leave. It’s a matter of time. Nothing shocks me anymore. Well, except this place: http://www.etsy.com/shop/martin1206

    So, just him and his wifey make these? For $4… yeah, okay.

    …………………………………..

    They are doing very well, only began to learn the craft in August last year and have already made enough to have sold 2698 to date.

    Impressive.

  12. Life During Wartime July 23, 2010 at 1:39 pm #

    Even if he and his wifey (? LOL) were charging 40 bucks apiece, there is no way 2 people could make all those pieces.

    If it’s okay now to sell factory produced handmade, I think it’s way past due for Etsy to force the factory sellers to come clean about who makes their inventory and how the items are really made. Otherwise, Etsy smells like online fraud.

  13. Cat Power July 23, 2010 at 2:13 pm #

    Someone mentioned, I think in the forums, or maybe here, that the fraud aspect might come round and bite Etsy in the butt.

    Does anyone see that happening, or are they immune since they are only the venue? I have no knowledge of law, so can’t even guess about this.

    But if they are knowingly allowing factory made items to be sold under the guise of “handmade”, wouldn’t they be libel in some way if someone wanted to take them to court?

    I wish there were a way for all the artists to sue them for misrepresentation, that may be the reason for the vagueness of the TOU….to avoid just that kind of legality.

  14. Inspector Yuk July 23, 2010 at 3:30 pm #

    Actually, if you look closely at most of those bracelets (Martin), they are very simply made, lengths of cording cut and bound on either end and an adjustable knot using the binding cord. You could whip off a hundred of those a day easy. The cord ends aren’t finished or neatly tucked in or anything, they are very crudely made.

    At least they aren’t overpricing them. And by crudely made, I am not trying to be insulting, just pointing out there isn’;t a lot of skill involved in making these and of a lot of stuff I see on Etsy, I’d tend to believe these were hand made.

    I’m not exactly sure where the basket making skills come into p lay, except maybe dexterity and speed in simple binding and knot tying.

  15. JK July 23, 2010 at 4:26 pm #

    I just got an email from ArtFire about their new certified handmade program: http://www.artfire.com/modules.php?name=forums&op=view_topic&tid=9815

    Very, very interesting.

  16. Jael July 23, 2010 at 5:49 pm #

    jackjewelry description: “Each ring is machine-manufactured so, each ring is made to you finger size and cannot be re-sized.”

  17. detroit July 23, 2010 at 6:20 pm #

    I would never buy from ‘Jack Jewelry’ because of how tacky their blown-up, over pixelated shit banner looks.

    If someone is a visual artist, they can take 10 seconds to steal some higher-res photography for a banner that doesn’t look like that crap.

    Lord people! Take a look around when you’re throwing money around!

  18. Disgusted July 23, 2010 at 6:24 pm #

    You could whip off a hundred of those a day easy. The cord ends aren’t finished or neatly tucked in or anything, they are very crudely made.

    ______
    Don’t try it at home!!! Unless of course you LIKE carpal tunnel!

  19. Life During Wartime July 23, 2010 at 8:06 pm #

    ^^^^Yeah, like ouchies. Inspector, you could make that many for a day or two, but after a few months you would be hurting. Definitely I couldn’t do it at my age! Plus I’d be going postal from frustrated boredom.

  20. meggylowe July 23, 2010 at 9:00 pm #

    I was trying to find the exact charm and I did!

    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/31611788

    http://qianjinjewelry.en.alibaba.com/product/257328123-209308163/leather_bracelet.html

    I highly doubt they make those bracelets! Ugh.

  21. ohmeohmy July 23, 2010 at 10:25 pm #

    I reported martin 1206 many mnay times with pics from alibaba. Etsy did nothing!

    Forget about reporting resellers now. Everything has changed on etsy.

  22. PussDaddy July 24, 2010 at 8:13 am #

    This blog should have a very long shelf life as there seems to be no end to this shit, even if admin needs a fucking roadmap to a reseller’s doorstep.

    PussDaddy

  23. PussDaddy July 24, 2010 at 8:16 am #

    I don’t really think Etsy could be sued because people would have to show they they personally lost a sale due to reseller’s being on the site. At least that is what I think anyway. People would have to show that someone preferred a reseller item over their own handmade one and bought the reseller item instead.

    PussDaddy

  24. sparkalicious July 24, 2010 at 8:29 am #

    “Forget about reporting resellers now. Everything has changed on etsy.”

    So depressing. The inmates have taken over the asylum.

    I have had to content myself with trying to bust the fake Hermes and fake Chanel listings.

  25. bellacruz July 24, 2010 at 9:23 am #

    Martin shop w/leather bracelets featured in EtsyFinds:

    http://www.etsy.com/storque/spotlight/etsy-finds-gentlemens-club-9484/

    Attention brought to this particular EtsyFinds here:

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6583254&page=1

  26. Call Out Grrl July 24, 2010 at 10:31 am #

    This seller was called out back in March. Here: https://etsycallout.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/etsy-3-artfire-1/#comments

    Well guess who’s back? Just dropped by Etsy and who should I see but TwigGarden? http://www.etsy.com/shop/TwigGarden

    Exactly the same jewelry seen in these shops: Wicopy, Beadwitches, Elvendale, Glenamara, Greengages, etc.

    Guess this seller will just sell until she gets her first negative feedback, then go “on vacation” and pop up in another shop in a few months.

    And really? She just opened up yesterday and already has 13 sales? Something ain’t right there, if you ask me.

  27. Life During Wartime July 24, 2010 at 10:54 am #

    martin1206 is in today’s Etsy Finds. Why feature an item handmade by the shop owner when factory items are so awesome? Yeah, Etsy….you will reap your karma heavily, as Jimmy Page would say.

  28. RocksInMySocks July 24, 2010 at 11:11 am #

    ohmeohmy Says:
    July 23, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Forget about reporting resellers now. Everything has changed on etsy.

    ====================================
    You’re so right. It seems there are lots of sellers who are ready to welcome them with open arms now that Etsy has made it plain they’re going to do nothing. Not surprising at all since a lot of these idiots would suck a donkey dick if they thought it would help them continue on as an Etsy pet.

    These asshole sellers are going around posting in every reseller thread they can find to defend this insanity. PeaseBlossom and Polestar are, as always, first in line to suck it.

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6582552&page=1

  29. sick of cupcakes July 24, 2010 at 11:25 am #

    “PeaseBlossom and Polestar are, as always, first in line to suck it. ”

    But of course!

  30. notvintage July 24, 2010 at 1:32 pm #

    “Kiss my ass, I bought a boat, I’m going off to sea.”

  31. Disgusted July 24, 2010 at 1:49 pm #

    “Kiss my ass, I bought a boat, I’m going off to sea.”

    ____
    If i had a boat, I’d take it on the ocean
    and if I had a pony…….

  32. Disgusted July 24, 2010 at 2:13 pm #

    I think you can see the bitterness in Polecats soul in her new avatar. Not very flattering.

  33. ugh July 24, 2010 at 3:14 pm #

    i read that thread. personally, i don’t care if those sellers aren’t concerned with resellers, and those who misrepresent vintage. they can post all the rainbows and flowers they want about etsy in the forums. i however, was an avid buyer on etsy, but every time i visit the site i see something else that screams reseller to me. it happens so much so that i am nervous about making purchases there. i haven’t bought anything there in months. if we are going somewhere else with our money, then all those sellers lose out. they should be concerned with other sellers. they may see it as an opportunity to “grow” i see it as customers getting scammed, and left with a bad taste in their mouths.

    sorry for the rant, that’s just my experience as a simple buyer on etsy.

  34. detroit July 24, 2010 at 4:43 pm #

    Yeah. Basically, logically, that whole thread rant made no sense.

    And they used the subjective figure of 1% resellers (fake vintage, etc.).

    1) I think Etsy is a lot higher than than 1% bogus listings, but

    2) Say, given only 1% of the sellers are garbage, for a big, multinational company, 1% represent a HUGE figure. And is unacceptable.

    I think of my last job, where I communicated hundreds / thousand of instructions internationally every month….

    I could NEVER say to my bosses – oh, I fucked up 15 of these. It’s only 1%. No biggie! Wheeee!

    Yes, mistakes happened. But they were analyzed, and reviewed heavily. And for each ‘error’, we made sure there were measures in place to reduce the incidence of it happening ever again.

    1% (or more in the case of Etsy) is a HUGE error / fraud rate!

    B-ee-eee-ee-ee Esss-sss-ss!

    Well. Etsy (as it once was) is officially gone.

    The new incarnation may be fine for some. But it’s not what I’m interested in.

  35. sick of cupcakes July 24, 2010 at 6:26 pm #

    I’ve stopped buying there as well. At least Ebay is honest. Not to mention cheaper.

  36. damn July 24, 2010 at 6:55 pm #

    why is polestar so mean?

  37. um no July 24, 2010 at 8:19 pm #

    Why is my comment still awaiting moderation? It’s been about 10 hours?

  38. groove is in da heart July 24, 2010 at 8:30 pm #

    It’s Saturday, she’s probably busy with other things.

  39. j July 24, 2010 at 11:14 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/pinkyourlimb

  40. Blue Kitty July 25, 2010 at 2:43 am #

    The 1% was meaningless, a figure plucked from thin air to add weight to a spurious argument.

    The true figure could be less, could be more. No way for anyone to know.

    I suppose its easy not to care when your customer base is starry eyed new sellers. Not buyers or seasoned sellers.

    Or when you don’t list the few items you made yourself only to see them immediately buried by 5 pages or more of listings by someone with a workforce or being supplied by a wholesaler.

  41. detroit July 25, 2010 at 3:41 am #

    j Says:
    July 24, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/pinkyourlimb
    ___________________________________________

    Oy vey! Look at this garbage! The banner is so crappy / blurry, you can’t even read it!

    But look at all their sales! WTF people! People will buy ANYthing! As long as it’s cheap. Near 400 sales in less than 2 months.

    They say in their announcement “they are all from my father’s leather workshop in which I worked.some of them are the left by exportation creations”

    I’m not totally sure what that means. But I interpret is as ‘reselling’. It’s so unfair to real crafters.

    And, they note in their listings they’ll do wholesale for a much more favorable rate! How much cheaper can they make them?

  42. detroit July 25, 2010 at 3:43 am #

    I wonder what percent of Etsy sales are from East Asia?

    A large percent I’d bet. Just like the items in Walmart. Let the Chinese work for pennies, raping their environment. And we in the west get cheap, cheap crap we don’t even really need!

    Way to make an ‘eco’, ‘indie’, ‘crafter friendly’ difference Etsy!

  43. detroit July 25, 2010 at 3:50 am #

    An ANOTHER thing I don’t get. Why would you buy a $3.00 trinket from Hong Kong (if you’re in the west)?

    The shipping alone doubles the cost. It makes no logical sense!

    I could understand if you’re ordering some high-end, super unique item. Then maybe having it shipped from the other side of the planet would make sense.

    But a freakin leather cord???

    Again – way to be ‘eco’! What a giant carbon footprint for a little thing. Great model Etsy!

  44. eyefortineye July 25, 2010 at 7:59 am #

    whatthefuck? 383 sales since may 2010.

    Reseller? Nah.

    Made in my father’s factory, in which I worked. As what? Receptionist? That qualifies this as Etsy legal, eh?

  45. sick of cupcakes July 25, 2010 at 7:59 am #

    Guilty. I bought my kid a 7.00 necklace on Ebay from Hong Kong. It was a knock-off of a 50.00 sports necklace. I knew he’d lose it soon whether I paid alot for it or not, LOL.

  46. eyefortineye July 25, 2010 at 8:00 am #

    It’s obvious that Etsy’s term “collective” is not only being loosely interpreted by Resellers, but enforced just as loosely by Etsy themselves.

  47. detroit July 25, 2010 at 8:04 am #

    sick of cupcakes Says:
    July 25, 2010 at 7:59 am

    Guilty. I bought my kid a 7.00 necklace on Ebay from Hong Kong. It was a knock-off of a 50.00 sports necklace. I knew he’d lose it soon whether I paid alot for it or not, LOL.
    ________________________________________________

    That’s fine though. Ebay doesn’t pretend to be a ‘different’ kind of marketplace that’s about eco, and ‘upcycle’, blah blah blah…

    Etsybay

  48. Lisa July 25, 2010 at 8:11 am #

    Here’s a video I found last night. Not sure if everyone’s seen it, but I found it interesting. The sentence that stuck out to me was the one where he says that won’t disclose where the bulk of their money comes in, renewing and listing, or 3.5% final sales fee.

    My guess is that the bulk of the money is from the little, less successful shops that continue to renew and list their handmade stuff.

    Just like a casino. When you walk in, do you see more penny slots or high stakes slots? Of course, it’s the penny slots. Those little pennies that granny’s spending add up quickly, and far outweigh the high slots action.
    Etsy will figure out the huge mistake they’ve made by alienating the little sellers, but it’ll be too late, and they’ll be left with the reseller factory crap, and they will “go down in flames”.

    http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/29/etsy-ceo-how-social-will-unlock-etsys-potential-video/

  49. Disgusted July 25, 2010 at 8:37 am #

    I think Etsy will learn by experience as Ebay did. When there are lots of cases of fraud and problems with sales, they will wonder what happened to the supposed “handmade” movement they started with.
    How to wreck something by letting it drift off course.

  50. factorygirlashli July 25, 2010 at 9:08 am #

    I think Polestar’s avatar is hot.

    You all are just intimidated by the sexy.

  51. polestar July 25, 2010 at 9:09 am #

    Someone was kind enough to mention I’d been snarked about (yet again) here.

    I’m not defending resellers but trying to interpret Etsy policy.

    I also really like Winchester Lambourne. I respect her idealism and how she stands up for what she believes is right, even if I don’t agree with her all the time.

    Rocksinmysocks, you know who else sucks donkey dicks? Your Mom.

    Disgusted: My eyes are a mirror.

    Ciao bitches.

  52. eyefortineye July 25, 2010 at 9:57 am #

    wow polestar. polecat. both stink.

  53. Bedazzled VONdom July 25, 2010 at 10:56 am #

    “Someone was kind enough to mention I’d been snarked about (yet again) here.”

    Yeah, right. You really want us to believe you don’t already read this blog on a daily basis?

    That’s funny.

  54. Bedazzled VONdom July 25, 2010 at 10:58 am #

    P.S. Ten bucks says factoryfgirlashli and polestar have the same IP number.

  55. GlitzGlitter July 25, 2010 at 11:08 am #

    Okay, Bedazzled, I’ll admit it, I am the one who told her. I DO read this blog daily. Mostly I was teasing her about her bitter soul, and how mean she is.

    I hate resellers and I didn’t even realize about fake vintage before. I try to keep up to make sure I am not accidentally putting a reseller or a fake vintage item in a treasury.

  56. Bedazzled VONdom July 25, 2010 at 11:32 am #

    Come on. She claims she was “snarked about” here once before.

    Do you really believe that anyone here is dumb enough to believe that she stopped reading this blog after that?

    I’m sure you did tell her but I GUARANTEE you she already knew what was said because she reads here daily.

    Countdown to a liar’s denial in 10….9…8….7…..

    (I hope she doesn’t call me a douchbag. Dat wud hert my feeeewwwwings.)

  57. ginger July 25, 2010 at 11:59 am #

    Um, BV, factorygirlashli and PoleStar are pretty-well documented as separate, non-anonymous entities, who are quite friendly. One defends the other out of friendship–that is so inconceivable to you that it requires a shared IP?

    What horrible offense is it that PoleStar has committed that needs calling out? That she doesn’t share your opinion on the collective thing? That you don’t like her forum personality? Nothing actually shop-related, though, right?

    You’ve already stalked her off Twitter over your little personal issues…fucking enough already. There are lots of people I don’t like, but I don’t have to drive a potentially useful blog into complete irrelevancy with my daily axe-grinding.

  58. Disgusted July 25, 2010 at 12:15 pm #

    You don’t need to see Polecats avatar. You can read her words and see what a bitter person she is.

  59. Life During Wartime July 25, 2010 at 12:25 pm #

    Being a ‘bitter person’ isn’t mentioned in the Etsy TOU…just sayin’.

  60. Laura July 25, 2010 at 12:31 pm #

    I don’t know who any of these forum people are, but I agree with ugh, about buyers being afraid to purchase. This change in Etsy policy will and has turned buys off. I was a buyer only for 2-years and have bought over 150 items from Etsy (not supplies!), and my confidence in Etsy is gone.

    Every time I do some browsing I just find something to cringe about. Even if they allow small companies, it’s not right to scam buyers by letting them think it’s handmade by artists.

    Anyway, it doesn’t matter. They have Hindsvik on the FP right now. They can laugh all the way to the bank until it explodes in their face.

  61. Life During Wartime July 25, 2010 at 1:02 pm #

    I saw Hindsvik. Damaged pottery, no identification. I’d be surprised if there were no pieces of orange pottery on Etsy in better condition AND with a decent photo that should have had that treasury spot. But then including Hindsvik is a sure bet for making the FP.

  62. JK July 25, 2010 at 1:26 pm #

    ‘Even if they allow small companies, it’s not right to scam buyers by letting them think it’s handmade by artists.’

    Exactly; it’s deceptive and misleading to allow spurious ‘handmade’ and not make it clear to buyers what they’ll be getting. I won’t be buying from anyone new on Etsy. I’ll continue to shop with the handful of legit small sellers I know and like, and other than those, my money will be going elsewhere. Sorry, other legit small sellers, but Etsy refuses to distinguish between your handmade pieces and imported factory goods, so I don’t feel confident buying from anyone I don’t know.

  63. detroit July 25, 2010 at 1:56 pm #

    PussDaddy Says:
    July 24, 2010 at 8:16 am

    I don’t really think Etsy could be sued because people would have to show they they personally lost a sale due to reseller’s being on the site. At least that is what I think anyway. People would have to show that someone preferred a reseller item over their own handmade one and bought the reseller item instead.
    ******************************************************

    I always thought the people who could claim damages and sue would be the buyers. Like, they spend extra money buying what Etsy represented as handmade or vintage as a gift. And then saw it in Target.

    They were, in effect, stolen from.

    Not like a lawsuit could ever happen. It’d have to be some collective, class action thing, because the individual damages are so small. And it wouldn’t be worth all the money that would have to be spent on lawyers.

    Occasionally small amount class action suits do work. Like, anyone who was charged foreign transaction fees by their bank a number of years ago is due a settlement pursuant to a big lawsuit over them ripping people off. I sent in my claim. I’m still waiting for my $5 check! lol.

    Any lawyer here want to take on the ‘Etsy sold me fraudulent handmade goods’ case?

  64. detroit July 25, 2010 at 2:00 pm #

    Laura Says:
    July 25, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Anyway, it doesn’t matter. They have Hindsvik on the FP right now.
    ___________________________________________

    *eyeroll*. You know what. I do not blame people at all for the treasury mafia. You gotta do what you gotta to to get sales on Etsy.

    I DO blame Etsy for rewarding the treasury mafia scheme. If people weren’t rewarded for it – they wouldn’t do it.

  65. detroit July 25, 2010 at 2:03 pm #

    ife During Wartime Says:
    July 25, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    I saw Hindsvik. Damaged pottery, no identification.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Right. If I were selling vintage on Etsy, one of those pictures would be of the bottom of the pots.

    The fact that they DON’T do that leads me to believe there may be some googlable info that may reveal them to be ‘vintage’ Target, 2002.

  66. Bedazzled VONdom July 25, 2010 at 4:25 pm #

    “You’ve already stalked her off Twitter over your little personal issues…fucking enough already.”

    I can see why you are friends with such a nasty person. You’re just as nasty yourself.

    I do not now, nor have I ever, twittered. Nor stalked. Shame on you for making such a slanderous assumption.

    Polestar is a wide- open book in the Etsy forums. My opinion of her was formed after many, many chapters.

    Birds of a fucked-up feather, flock and whine together.

  67. Bedazzled VONdom July 25, 2010 at 4:36 pm #

    As for Hindsvik, there’s no fucking way this is 1800’s:

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/52022629/1800s-windsor-high-back-chair

    It’s old, and definitely Etsy legal, but it’s not nearly as old as they claim. It’s a reproduction that is old enough to be considered antique on its own.

  68. ginger July 25, 2010 at 5:03 pm #

    You know what, BV, you’re right about the Twitter thing. My point was that the collective you, the ECO regulars, had driven her off by reposting so much of what she had said there on ECO, just to mock it. If you weren’t one of the posters who was doing that, then I apologize–I don’t have the time to go back and look through the old comments.

    As for the rest, you and I obviously don’t have the same opinions about what is nasty and what isn’t. I find bullying way more offensive than snark in the forums, and I’d rather focus on TOS violations anyway.

  69. Life During Wartime July 25, 2010 at 5:30 pm #

    LOL at the chair…since when are all objects in fair condition or worse called ‘rustic’? Rustic does not mean dirty. Rustic does not mean worn and/or neglected. Rustic definition:

    http://mw4.m-w.com/dictionary/rustic

    The chair in question was handmade in a furniture factory, and was smooth, clean, and appropriately finished for sitting on in clothing other than dungarees. Age and poor condition do not change how the item was made.

    Etsy: your place for misrepresentation of all things vintage.

  70. PussDaddy July 25, 2010 at 5:52 pm #

    That might be hold more possibilities Detroit. I know I was none too happy to buy a seed bead bracelet only to have a fucking piece of paper fall out of it’s cellophane with it’s item number on it, if you get what that means. I felt like an idiot because I thought the damn thing was handmade.

    All I do know is that all of the politics of handmade just put me completely off the whole fucking movement just about. I don’t even care to blog about it anymore in any aspect whatsoever. All I need is to take a look at what admin allow people like poetsummer to do to buyers and that tells me all I need to know. I have people that I trust to buy from who will invoice me that I trust if I want something and that is about all I care to have to with it anymore. The handmade movement is a fucking joke. Too bad good people get caught up in it and screwed over.

  71. detroit July 25, 2010 at 6:40 pm #

    Damn! I thought BV was a twitter stalker! That was exciting!

    And, Hindsdick has no clue what they have.

  72. eyefortineye July 25, 2010 at 7:35 pm #

    ging, babe, if anybody has a problem with what they post being re-posted elsewhere, they shouldn’t post it to begin with.

  73. damn July 25, 2010 at 9:26 pm #

    how old is glitzglitter?

  74. PussDaddy July 26, 2010 at 9:54 am #

    I will add that I did not neg the seed bead person I mentioned mainly because I was not sure if maybe the item number was for the cellophane baggies she used to package her items so I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I was a lot nicer then.

  75. RocksInMySocks July 26, 2010 at 11:31 am #

    factorygirlashli Says:
    July 25, 2010 at 9:08 am
    I think Polestar’s avatar is hot.

    You all are just intimidated by the sexy.

    ————-
    Yeah, I’m really into the rode hard and put up wet look and so is my momma.

  76. Inspector Yuk July 26, 2010 at 2:51 pm #

    Did anyone else catch the admin announcement for treasury search that gave examples of search using hineydick and aeonfucks? Talk about Etsy programming.

    And I almost bust a gut laughing at someone who suggested that Etsy should vet the shops. Silly people, Etsy already vets shops by putting them in the Etsy Finds, Blog articles, Featured Seller and FP treasuries.

  77. LOVEInspectorYuk! July 27, 2010 at 1:06 pm #

    #76 – priceless, wish I saw it!

  78. PussDaddy July 28, 2010 at 1:35 am #

    I saw it. You know with all the bullshit that comes with trying to sell handmade, unless one is handicapped in some way, or homebound, or there are no jobs whatsoever where they live, then I have no idea why anyone would want to try to sell handmade on the internet if it means years and years of the same tired ass bullshit and the same tired assed conversations over and over an over. Some people have stuff that is good enough to be in galleries, and I can’t see wanting to express my creativity so fucking badly that I would go thru years and endless rounds of this bullshit to do it. Just trying to buy the shit was bad enough for me. You all have my sympathy.

  79. notvintage July 28, 2010 at 6:00 am #

    In order to be capable of vetting, a person would have to have some knowledge and expertise. In other words, Etsy staff cannot vet and have no interest in doing so. They are each riding their job and apparently have no instructions to do anything beyond what they have to or feel like doing.
    Creative or just plain anarchistic? IMHO, creativity involves a lot of self-control beyond just coming up with an idea or a knee-jerk reaction, and this is one of the concepts the Etsy staff people apparently don’t understand. Perhaps it’s laziness, or poor management, or substandard staff, or lack of interest or experience. Regardless, I would not trust the people Etsy hires to vet SHIT.

  80. Cat Power July 28, 2010 at 11:16 am #

    That makes two of us, notvintage!

    Their ineptitude is legion.

  81. PussDaddy July 28, 2010 at 11:22 am #

    Vetting-take it to vet to check for parasites, it’ll be fine.

  82. little old me February 5, 2011 at 1:45 pm #

    Just so y’all know, the guy jackjewelry has a new etsy shop here: http://www.createyourring.etsy.com

    and, if you feel that he’s reselling Boone Ti rings, don’t worry… Boone has his own shop on Etsy, too. Apparently since he has his employees hand polish his rings, they’re handmade:

    http://boonerings.etsy.com

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