29 Jul

Today’s call out is courtesy of Etsy’s blog post from yesterday:

Ice cream bucket:


Found here for $16.99


and here:

The rest of this seller’s shop is also questionable.

Ebay shop- http://stores.ebay.com/WhiteTulip-Boutique


95 Responses to “whitetulipboutique”

  1. notvintage July 29, 2010 at 9:30 am #

    Nice. Categorized as handmade. Another attaboy for the assholes who write Storque articles and “trust people to tag properly”. I other words: blind, deaf, and DUMB!

    These party favors are supplies MAYBE but listed as handmade.

    And this basket is handmade by the shop owner? Handmade by SteinMart, maybe:

  2. Inspector Yuk July 29, 2010 at 10:03 am #

    Yup, very questionable. Just found this: http://www.beforetheidos.com/Pearls_and_Ribbon_Tie_Necklace_p/fbl-rtneck.htm

    And a number of things she sells are on that site, buri fans,….whoa! I just went to check the shop and stuff is disappearing, and it isn’t being bought! There was a whole mess of stuff in there and now she’s down to 6 items.
    And even those aren’t handmade.

  3. Inspector Yuk July 29, 2010 at 10:08 am #

    Ok, this is weird, I have a tab open with her shop that has 32 things listed, and I have a tab open with only 6 things listed, same number of sold items……….thought maybe she was inactivating them to change tags or something, but they all seem the same. Weird shit.

  4. Life During Wartime July 29, 2010 at 10:23 am #

    Who could think for one minute the seller made that aluminum container? I guess she has a factory set up in her basement, her kids are weaving fans sitting on the floor in front of the teevee, and her mother-in-law is stringing jewelry? I guess she has a dozen or so foreign exchange students, or Fresh Air kids, assembling all the silly bridal umbrellas and birds’ nest thingies out in the yard. For her Ebay Store.

    The biggest problem with violations on Etsy is the stoopidity of the staff. Of course, sellers are going to list anything they think they can get away with. I can’t figure out why the staff can’t get their heads out of shopping mode when they are at work. Does Etsy actually tell them their function is to act as a socially networked focus group selecting manufactured products aimed at females 16-45? I would fire the lot of them, in a heartbeat.

    After the Storque feature I would guess they were inundated with flags. Why is that reseller shop still open? Oh, but there are no resellers on Etsy…

  5. sofedupwithresellers July 29, 2010 at 10:33 am #

    Here’s a *clue* Admin, she has “5” ice cream buckets in stock HA!

    Reseller called out in the Forums this morning:

    Of course the thread was closed within minutes, shop still open.

  6. notvintage July 29, 2010 at 10:37 am #

    Seen that SL shop before, total bullshit seller. Link to closed thread?

  7. elle July 29, 2010 at 10:40 am #

    this: http://www.etsy.com/listing/50465976/heart-shaped-wine-stopper-vineyard

    here: http://www.littlethingsfavors.com/fc1092heart.html

    and here: http://www.theperfectfavour.com.au/shop/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=945

    took 30 seconds to find, there’s still plenty of other sites that sell that same stopper

  8. sofedupwithresellers July 29, 2010 at 10:41 am #

    Link to closed thread…

  9. notvintage July 29, 2010 at 11:08 am #

    Thanks– and funny!!

    ” says:
    Wow. Wonder what happens first, the reseller gets booted or the thread gets locked.
    Posted at 12:24 pm, July 29, 2010 ET – Report this post

    Etsy Admin
    knickey says:
    Please avoid calling out other members in the Forums.


    If you see a listing/shop that appears to not follow our rules, please flag it and we’ll investigate. Thank you. ”


  10. Life During Wartime July 29, 2010 at 11:19 am #

    Here is another webstore selling the Laughing Daffodil Sachet that whitetulip sells:


    Even uses the same photo! And the same name for the item.

    Still looking for the wholesale source. But there are no resellers on Etsy…

  11. suzi July 29, 2010 at 11:36 am #

    I found the same Wedding Dress Handkerchiefs: http://www.beforetheidos.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FBL-WDHANK

  12. Blue Kitty July 29, 2010 at 12:07 pm #

    sofedupwithresellers Says:
    July 29, 2010 at 10:41 am
    Link to closed thread…


    Its a shame, Jen will probably get in trouble, will the seller go? Maybe. But be back before long.

    Nothing can even be done about the copyright as they are in China they are beyond most laws, even those that countries have reciprocal agreements on like copyright.

    They will take over Etsy eventually, there aren’t many international sites like Etsy where they can sell worldwide so easily.

  13. Freckleyredhead July 29, 2010 at 12:10 pm #

    Wow, jenmaestre’s got guts! Good for her! But why the freaking heck is the shop still open?

  14. Life During Wartime July 29, 2010 at 12:33 pm #

    I just noticed in the description for the ice cream bucket there is a link to a treasury. I checked out the curator, and she has a shop that tries extra hard to follow the Etsy trendy appearance standard. And lists handmade (?) items as vintage.

    Etsy seems to be like a contagion map for a disease…you find violating shops featuring other violators, and Etsy staffers being attracted to the centers of infection.

    I don’t think it’s an intentional conspiracy of rule breakers. It seems more like a group of unrelated shops whose owners like a certain look, don’t get the TOU, and don’t care…and why should they, since Etsy loves them the way they are? Because even though they don’t get the TOU, these shops get the Etsy style. And that seems to be what matters most.

    Etsy….a global online collection of catalog boutiques, with a little bit of handmade art and artisan work, and vintage, thrown in as a curiosity.

  15. JohnCock July 29, 2010 at 1:01 pm #

    Admin needs a pencil in their butt. Good for jen.

  16. gottalovegoogle July 29, 2010 at 1:07 pm #

    a friend wrote to seller asking about vintage or handmade ice cream bucket. wonder if we’ll hear back?

    blinkphoto sells same cufflinks as southernliving

  17. Inspector Yuk July 29, 2010 at 2:47 pm #

    You know what, I hate to say it, but out of curiosity I went over to Artfire to check out the situation there, and frankly that place is a hot mess. It may not have the same numbers of resellers, but from poking around and doing searches and checking categories and tags, it’s a big problem there too.

  18. sick of cupcakes July 29, 2010 at 2:48 pm #

    WTG Jen!!! I wish I had her balls.

  19. sofedupwithresellers July 29, 2010 at 4:10 pm #

    Gotta love Jen, bet you can’t guess the reason for closing the thread. HA!


  20. gottalovegoogle July 29, 2010 at 4:11 pm #

    I wanna know why admin has enough time to hang around forums and close threads that aren’t calling our or hostile in any way. The time could so much be better used taking care of mistagged and reseller crap stores.

  21. gottalovegoogle July 29, 2010 at 4:22 pm #

    woh, that many sales at an average sale of $25 = approx $37,500 since May.

  22. sofedupwithresellers July 29, 2010 at 4:28 pm #


    Sad huh? My sales have been pathetic for months. I am lucky if I sell an item every two weeks and a reseller has no problem getting sales.

    That’s it, I am going into reselling. Maybe even get on the FP. Now why did it take me so long to get with it? sheesh!

  23. detroit July 29, 2010 at 4:32 pm #

    Yeah – they did clarify in some other thread that any Etsy department can close stores – should they desire…

    So, why’s this crap STILL open?

    And Jen has a lot of sales (though not a lot compared to some resellers), so I assume admin sees the wisdom in keeping her open and unmuted….

    But you can never underestimate the vindictiveness of some of the staff.

    May the force be with you pencil lady!

  24. Life During Wartime July 29, 2010 at 4:37 pm #

    Inspector, you’re right about vintage on ArtFire…and Zibbet, and all the rest of the smaller Etsy rivals. Same basic pool of sellers, same problems come along with.

    Category abuse is a HUGE issue on the venues for antiques and collectibles shops. Hilarious example here:


    How many ANTIQUITIES do you see? (There are a few mixed in there, if you want to bother digging through all the unrelated dreck.) All the items that the quasi-literate shop owners have dumped there mistaking the category for ANTIQUES have their own appropriate categories, so shouldn’t be there in any case. This is a venue where Etsy sent recruiting emails to sellers to populate its vintage category. Actually, there are some nice shops and professional sellers on the site, but they are the minority.

    On TIAS you can also define your own shop categories. So horrors like




    do wonders for search results.

    Etsy inherited issues involved with selling vintage online that were 10+ years old. I’m not making excuses for Etsy, but they really didn’t start the fire.

  25. gottalovegoogle July 29, 2010 at 4:37 pm #

    yikes, my math was seriously off – it’s over $40,000 after fees

    fabulous calculator here:

  26. elle July 29, 2010 at 5:13 pm #

    Gotta love Jen, bet you can’t guess the reason for closing the thread. HA!

    something i noticed when i went to check out the reseller shops and their sold items….i was unable to look at either resellers’ items. is this some sort of setting i’m not aware of or is etsy continuing to protect resellers?

  27. sparkalicious July 29, 2010 at 5:54 pm #

    Yay Jen! She is an amazing artist and a seriously nice person. Would hate to see her get nailed for being honest enough to say it out loud in public.

    And yeah, what’s with all the admin hypervigilance on those discussions? Don’t they have something more important to do? Oh wait – no, they don’t. Silly me.

  28. elle July 29, 2010 at 6:29 pm #

    comment #26 is supposed to be “sold items.” unable to view **sold items!

  29. elle July 29, 2010 at 6:31 pm #

    *ugh* nevermind it’s not like that anymore, must have been a bug earlier. or was it…….hmm..

  30. damn July 29, 2010 at 6:34 pm #

    elle..you are on the sold items page. that link takes u to the sold page

  31. damn July 29, 2010 at 6:37 pm #

    how swift is artfire in regards to dealing with resellers?

  32. linda July 29, 2010 at 7:26 pm #

    Isn’t artfire starting that certified handmade thing? Seems to be a bit more than etsy is doing.

  33. Christine July 29, 2010 at 7:43 pm #

    I love this blog and what it does but I’m wondering if there is a point anymore. Etsy has made it clear that resellers are the new face of Etsy. Why fight it?

    I did empty the majority of my shop and have a new website away from Etsy. I’m thinking when it’s time to close up the Etsy shop that I should start a callout thread and name as many as I can. You know, I think I’ll do it.

  34. Life During Wartime July 29, 2010 at 7:56 pm #

    Christine, I don’t think the resellers are the new face of Etsy.

    Etsy’s trend machine is its face, and has been for the past 2-3 years. Resellers with their catalog photos and pop culture blandness are a mask Etsy puts over the face of authentic handmade and real vintage shops on the site, to make everything seem more uniform. Etsy is the Borg Cube of the handmade movement.

  35. Inspector Yuk July 29, 2010 at 8:45 pm #

    Linda, Artfire’s new handmade certification is a joke. Why would you certify handmade sellers by some process when each listing in the handmade category is already supposed to be handmade.? Wouldn’t that imply that the rest of the ‘handmaid’ listings aren’t?

    What is a shopper supposed to think when they see that some shops are certified and others aren’t. Will the difference between cert and non cert be explained to buyers? Or will they just use their pool of certs and use them for all promotions and integrate them into a special search and push them the way Etsy pushes it’s favs.

    I guess I just can’t figure out why a handmade site suddenly needs to certify handmade shops.

  36. Life During Wartime July 29, 2010 at 10:35 pm #

    I think ArtFire is busting Etsy’s chops, and maybe trying to snag some new sellers.

  37. Blue Kitty July 30, 2010 at 1:24 am #

    sofedupwithresellers Says:
    July 29, 2010 at 4:10 pm
    Gotta love Jen, bet you can’t guess the reason for closing the thread. HA!



    I love being a member of a community that embraces rule breakers, resellers, sock puppets, spammers and scammers as community members with full rights.

  38. Tired of it all July 30, 2010 at 7:56 am #

    While doing a little research for my vintage shop, I came across this little number:


    Sorry, there is no way this bag is vintage. That “bling” satchel style is very current. And the bag is supposedly used but the zipper pull is still wrapped in the original plastic? There doesn’t seem to be a LC logo on the bag at all, just a sewn-in white label. All of my vintage LC bags have a logo of some kind molded into the leather inside the bag.

    This whole shop looks like a yard sale.

  39. Inspector Yuk July 30, 2010 at 8:57 am #

    Uber Vintage? sure. And I’m Uber Aunt Jemima.

    Just the name would steer me away. The use of Uber is so 2000 and screams Brooklyn hipster wannabe.

    It’s quite obvious that she isn’t targeting anyone who knows what real vintage is and therefore can get away with selling this crap.

  40. gottaovegoogle July 30, 2010 at 9:40 am #

    It’s all uninteresting and boring. There is nothing special about anything in her shop – it was midwestern boring (sorry midwesterners, but you all know what I mean) back then, and it’s even worse today. Just because it’s “vintage” doesn’t make it worth anything…

  41. Christine July 30, 2010 at 9:54 am #

    LDW said – Etsy’s trend machine is its face, and has been for the past 2-3 years. Resellers with their catalog photos and pop culture blandness are a mask Etsy puts over the face of authentic handmade and real vintage shops on the site, to make everything seem more uniform. Etsy is the Borg Cube of the handmade movement.

    And resistance is futile…

    True the resellers have what Etsy seems to be looking for right now but with that Etsy has made resellers very welcome. Unique, one of a kind and handmade is out.

  42. PussDaddy July 30, 2010 at 10:23 am #

    Looks like roses aren’t the only flowers that smell like ooh poo poo.


  43. Life During Wartime July 30, 2010 at 10:50 am #

    I can’t even remember the last time Etsy used the word ‘indie’. That may be because the word is no longer cool. I dunno because I’m not cool myself.

    But Etsy itself doesn’t rate all that high on the coolness scale. Anyone see the Mad Men Finds yesterday? Was that ever bland! AMC is pushing the 60s modern vibe so hard as a tie-in, but Etsy had to throw non sequitur hipster carp into that collection even though there are thousands of related vintage items from that period for sale in the shops? WTF? If they wanted to include handmade items, there are plenty of modern-inspired things on Etsy the Madison Ave. boys would have loved back in the day.

    Hopeless and clueless, reseller meat.

  44. Laura July 30, 2010 at 12:06 pm #

    How does this bucket fall even into the collective category? Do you think they just throw this stuff in featured items on purpose instead of stating that they are allowing on resellers? I just can’t imagine that anyone that works at Etsy would think this was handmade? And do they think that they are just a platform now and not responsible for their sellers violating the terms?

  45. Inspector Yuk July 30, 2010 at 12:21 pm #

    Well, now I know I’m not in the cool kids club. Mad Men isn’t even on my radar. I had to look it up to see what it’s about and I cannot even fathom who would be that interested in it.

  46. WhatThe? July 30, 2010 at 12:48 pm #

    Just saw this roll across the front page ticker: http://www.etsy.com/listing/52697721/ronald-macdonald-teenie-beanie-baby

    I’m *not* lovin’ it. Idiot.

  47. mickieD July 30, 2010 at 12:53 pm #


  48. gottalovegoogle July 30, 2010 at 1:22 pm #

    Sooooo, if seller is telling us it retails for $100, why is she selling it for $5.99? could it be…she’s lying?

    Amazon.com has highest price I found $14.95, everywhere else 4.95 to 8.95. wahtthehell am I even spending time on this?!?!? *slap me*


    I really want to write to seller, but…jeez, I wouldn’t know what to say other than

  49. Life During Wartime July 30, 2010 at 1:29 pm #

    Inspector, I only started watching Mad Men after my husband passed away, so I missed the first 2 seasons. I watch it to see the decor items used on the sets. I semi-specialize in items from 1945-1970. A bit of trivia — the teevee shows most likely to use mod Haeger pottery were the various newer Star Trek series, for ‘alien’ environments. I love Soul Train on Centric for vintage clothing! I think contemporary teevee sux.

    I find most of the Mad Men characters loathsome, and the office environment painfully remindful of my first job as a student in 1971 when sexual harassment was the norm. But I think the obnoxious behavior is intended to be perceived that way because ‘Madison Avenue’ was the Mordor of the early 60s. To be replaced by the ‘Military-Industrial Complex’ later in the decade.

  50. Inspector Yuk July 30, 2010 at 1:49 pm #

    LDW, I’m sorry about your husband.

    I guess I can see your interest in this program, I guess if I were interested in that period the show might appeal to me on that level.

    And actually, I have my own selective tastes in TV programming so it’s not that I don’t appreciate that it has it’s appeal, I guess what I can’t grasp is the focus in this genre by a group that essentially has no connection to it or knowledge about it.

  51. Life During Wartime July 30, 2010 at 1:52 pm #

    The teenie beanie seller knows the item isn’t vintage, along with the nursery clock (was it?). She listed the old piece of Guardian ware correctly as vintage. The other stuff she listed the way she would on Ebay, mistaking Etsy’s handmade categories for Ebay’s newer merchandise categories.

    I mean, by looking at the front page a person new to Etsy would have no idea the site’s main focus is (supposedly) handmade. Etsy looks like Shabby ChicDOTcom and Ebay had a baby. The teenie beanie seller’s items actually reflect the look and feel of Etsy’s FP and features pretty well…except for the bad photos.

  52. Life During Wartime July 30, 2010 at 2:12 pm #

    Thank you for your kind words, Inspector. The last thing I saw on teevee before he got really ill was hurricane Katrina making landfall. I was out of touch with the world of teevee from then until 2008.

  53. JohnCock July 30, 2010 at 2:39 pm #

    Turdlicking counterfeit seller:


  54. Life During Wartime July 30, 2010 at 3:44 pm #

    John, dunno about turds. One description sez “see see. see dick.”

  55. sparkalicious July 30, 2010 at 3:59 pm #

    Reported the turd-shop. I guess I was just looking for a target for my uncontained bad attitude about Etsy. Grrr.

  56. Life During Wartime July 30, 2010 at 5:24 pm #

    I should know better by this time, but I am surprised that whitetulip is still open with all her reseller merchandise still available for purchase.

  57. damn July 30, 2010 at 8:17 pm #

    lol@ faux preowned good condition bag

  58. PussDaddy July 30, 2010 at 10:21 pm #

    I have never seen Mad Men either.

  59. PussDaddy July 30, 2010 at 10:22 pm #

    I admit I like the 60’s modern vibe. And the 70’s groovy vibe too.

  60. amused July 31, 2010 at 1:47 am #

    No, no long term re-sellers like not this shop. What a joke.


    Also, I too went to check out Artfire and found out within minutes how many of the same re-sellers are there and easy to find, without even looking.

    This is all very depressing in my mind. Also this piece of carp is a long time re-seller (open-closed-open-closed) that clearly has Etsy snowed with an emptied shop for weeks http://www.etsy.com/shop/fenglai1988?ref=seller_info
    and newly opened shop tonight

  61. detroit July 31, 2010 at 2:41 am #

    Cufflink crap store is STILL open – even after repeated call outs in the forum.

    SHYTE – they had 12 sales just yesterday!!!

    Items ship from……..China!!

    Well, our bad. We must all be wrong. And jumping to conclusions because we’re jealous. And don’t realize some crafters are really, really good. And their stuff just looks professional.

    And, since southernliving cufflinks are still there, in addition to having proved to Etsy that they’re handmade, they must’ve also shown they have licenses to produce merch for all those car companies, films, brands, etc.

    Or wait – Etsy doesn’t care about copyright either.

    I have to leave this site for now. This whole thing makes me sick.

    Etsy – shame!!

  62. Life During Wartime July 31, 2010 at 11:51 am #

    Something I read in the links for the ice cream bucket had been bugging me, and I finally realized what it was. In the link to cambriacove, the listing for the bucket actually names the designer and her own company which produces her designs!

    Here are the ice cream tubs on Lunares:


    If whitetulip is selling Lunares items, she doesn’t credit the designer or maker (ha!) so Etsy effectively passed a contemporary designer’s work as being handmade by the owner of a reseller shop. That is worse for Etsy’s cred in the sphere of art, craft, and design than mistakenly (?) featuring the factory-made work of designers from developing countries in an Etsy shop. Because there is an internationally known name attached to this product.

    If Etsy wants to have contemporary trends as a big part of the site’s image, the staff has to stay updated on the names and wares of contemporary designers. This is much more than just a reseller type fail.

    Or whitetulip’s bucket might be a knock-off of Oberoi’s design. Also bad.

    This may be the best callout ever. Not because of drama, but because it exposes Etsy poser status so well.

  63. bellacruz July 31, 2010 at 12:23 pm #

    The title of the LV bag and the description say the bag is fake! What does that mean to Etsy?

  64. mickieD July 31, 2010 at 12:25 pm #

    They’s jest too stoopid to noe.

  65. JohnCock July 31, 2010 at 1:29 pm #

    Etsy doesn’t care about counterfeit items either. There are hundreds of them on etsy as we speak.

  66. Lizzy July 31, 2010 at 1:45 pm #

    As if I don’t have enough competition already. Now I have to compete with fake LV bags,reseller crap, 2010 “vintage” and the like. Bleh…….

  67. sick of cupcakes July 31, 2010 at 3:20 pm #

    She stole the pic off the Dillards website.


  68. mickieD July 31, 2010 at 3:21 pm #

    Holy Shit!!!!!!

  69. Life During Wartime July 31, 2010 at 3:26 pm #

    Great find, sick of cupcakes!

    I cannot believe that Etsy hasn’t either deleted her entire shop, or at least removed all her items for a thorough review.

    This is reselling. It is not being a designer, having an assistant, or hiring employees to make your designs.

    Since she stole the photo from Dillard’s, she knows the manufacturer.

    This one has a huge load of brass in her underoos!

  70. gottalovegoogle July 31, 2010 at 3:41 pm #

    I wrote and explained that I really liked the ice bucket (I do) but I would not be interested in buying it if it wasn’t handmade or vintage, and could she please let me know more info. Not a peep from her. I bought it somewhere else for less than $10.

  71. Sandra July 31, 2010 at 5:08 pm #

    So, the secret to having the amazing photos that we are told will get us to the front page is…steal them? Has anyone contacted Dillards or Lunares regarding this seller?

  72. Sandra July 31, 2010 at 5:36 pm #

    Actually, it just occured to me that it might be the other way around…I think that we should contact whitetulipboutique and warn her that Dillards is stealing her photos and Lunares is stealing her design! What unscrupulous companies!

  73. sick of cupcakes July 31, 2010 at 6:33 pm #

    Brilliant idea Sandra!

  74. notvintage July 31, 2010 at 6:59 pm #

    safer than contacting whitetulip and getting reported and shut down for spam. People don’t like to be told that they are……..

  75. sick of cupcakes July 31, 2010 at 7:08 pm #

    I am just dying to post on the Dorque but I am too big a wimp.

  76. detroit August 1, 2010 at 6:30 am #

    Yeah – this is a good callout because it’s an Etsy chosen item. Has anyone considered contacting the ‘curator’ – Kittykatherine?

    How on earth she thought someone handmade that bucket, I have no idea. But maybe someone should – nicely – point out to her what an idiot she is.

    I’d be mad careful if I was making a ‘treasury’ to accompany a Dorque article – poke around in all the shops I was featuring a bit.

    In one second you can tell the entire WhiteTuplipBotique is bogus. The pics are obviously of such different – and professional – styles as to be obviously stolen.

    It’s not rocket science Etsy – it’s simple common sense!! Get some!

  77. GucciBooty August 1, 2010 at 6:31 am #

    If it’s a what a staffer sees as a negative comment— even if it’s true— they will just delete it and you will be on that staffer’s shitlist. Etsy staff have a real abhorrence to being shown that they are wrong about anything.

  78. detroit August 1, 2010 at 6:34 am #

    And did anyone notice, in the comments following the article, the Etsy admin (Vanessa – July 29 @ 5:09 pm) trumpeting about the free ice cream she got from the ice cream truck they featured?


    I just got a free earl grey ice cream from them last night. The truck was parked outside the Craft Night we did. There’s one thing better than ice cream and that’s FREE ice cream!”


    Zero ethics.

  79. uh-huh August 1, 2010 at 7:12 am #

    It is now crystal clear to me that Etsy has no intention of shutting down resellers like the cufflink one. How fucking long does it take to ‘investigate’ that? No time.
    Etsy no longer has any respect for handmade. They do not respect us or even themselves anymore.

    Etsy is now officially a whore. And I guess that makes me a john for using it. I feel filthy and disgusting.

  80. GucciBooty August 1, 2010 at 8:52 am #

    We are the ‘hos and Etsy is the pimp. So much for free enterprise.

  81. sick of cupcakes August 1, 2010 at 9:12 am #

    F&ck that giant etsy whore. I’m not listing anything there ever again. I’d rather give up my craft than give one more cent to those asslickers.

  82. Cat Power August 1, 2010 at 10:20 am #

    One of my 3 shops is empty, and the other 2 are just slowly fading into the sunset. No more money to Etsy, EVER!

  83. Inspector Yuk August 1, 2010 at 12:21 pm #

    Yeah, making Dorque comments is treacherous ground. I made a comment that questioned the validity of something (long time ago before they started obviously deleting comments) and I looked for my comment and didn’t see it so I posted it again thinking it got lost in cyberspace.

    I went to look for that comment and it too disappeared. I look up in my convo link and see I have a convo, and got a note from teenangster that my storque commenting privilidges had been removed for reposting a deleted comment.

  84. Life During Wartime August 1, 2010 at 12:37 pm #

    I want to post a comment saying I love the designs of Nima Oberoi and how cool it is she has an Etsy shop. But bwak bwak bwak I’m chicken!

    I am pretty sure I’ve seen other Oberoi designs featured as ‘handmade’ by resellers, now that I’ve looked at the Lunares site. I’m not motivated enough to try and search for them on Etsy, but I will be looking at features with Oberoi in mind from now on.

  85. PussDaddy August 1, 2010 at 1:32 pm #

    Once again I reiterate too that I am happy to be gone from there. I follow some people that I more or less trust to make handmade on their blogs and twitter and stuff and if I want something I just have them invoice me. Of course I do run the risk probably of not being paypal protected buying this way but the first time I get ripped off I will just stop doing this as well. If I want mass produced junk I can go buy it in a store, like I did yesterday.

  86. oh me oh my August 1, 2010 at 11:36 pm #

    reseller in etsy finds today. That tribal style with the hand carved horn earrings. Geez, over 1000 sales! Blech.

    Also, a long time esty seller had her 3 shops shut down and forum muted because ofan undisclosed acct.

    She’s back now, but I mean resellers geta free pass all the time and admin tells us constantly that reseller investigation takes time, but they’ll shut down an honest seller just like that!

  87. Stifler's Mom August 2, 2010 at 6:12 am #

    You know what, I hate to say it, but out of curiosity I went over to Artfire to check out the situation there, and frankly that place is a hot mess. It may not have the same numbers of resellers, but from poking around and doing searches and checking categories and tags, it’s a big problem there too.


    That’s true, but with a few differences.

    Artfire doesn’t shove the resellers in your face by featuring them in treasuries and in the Dorque.

    You can call out resellers in the forums without being slapped down.

    Artfire now offers a Certified Handmade Artifact, which you have to apply for. Blatant resellers will not be able to get it.

    And also, Artfire admits that resellers are a difficult issue to resolve, rather than stupidly claim “there are no long term resellers.”

  88. GucciBooty August 2, 2010 at 7:35 am #

    IY, teenangster is one of the most clueless of all the Etsy admins. She doesn’t know handmade, vintage, or Etsy TOUs. Her argument with my comment was that an item can be vintage and handmade at the same time. She doesn’t understand the tagging instructions, either!!! Asshole!

  89. JohnC August 2, 2010 at 9:10 am #

    I am willing to bet that a cunning reseller will get the badge over at Artfire.

    I guess an item can be vintage and handmade if I handmade it more than 20 years ago, no?

  90. GucciBooty August 2, 2010 at 11:27 am #

    Proably, but that did’t fit the situation. She was saying it could go into both categories, which is (of course) impossible to do. You could tag it both, but the issue was featuring of an item that didn’t apply to that situation.
    The category was wrong– like I said, clueless.

  91. Soap Lover August 2, 2010 at 12:09 pm #

    Artfire makes you show pictures of the item in the middle of being completed, and after it is completed. You must also show pictures of your space/workshop and give an explanation of your process. I hope the verification works out well, and no one figures out a way to be a poser.

    Glad the bucket was pulled. I wish Etsy would ge back to being what it used to be when I signed on 4 years ago.

  92. Life During Wartime August 2, 2010 at 1:49 pm #

    Yup, the bucket is gone from the Storque feature and from her shop.

    But looks like the rest of her reseller inventory is still for sale:

    New link, now that the one in the blog post goes nowhere.

  93. JohnC August 3, 2010 at 8:41 am #

    What a joke of a shop. Just another reseller scamming brides.

  94. eyefortineye August 17, 2010 at 8:33 am #

    Oh dear. The icecream bucket is back up for sale… same link as posted above. I just don’t get it.

  95. eyefortineye August 17, 2010 at 8:38 am #

    She has five of them for sale. Still using the same stolen photos as well.

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