Designsbyjesy

29 Aug

Reseller is selling supplies, pashmina cashmere scarf, and clutch. No one can dye and sell 100% pashmina scarf for $17.
http://www.etsy.com/shop/Designsbyjesy

http://www.etsy.com/shop/Designsbyjesy?section_id=6645602 $4.99 or $5.99 clutch?

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73 Responses to “Designsbyjesy”

  1. Pox August 29, 2010 at 1:23 pm #

    On a similar note, the seller whose thread is causing such an uproar because she has not been able to have a customer complete a checkout in a week, has a pashmina for $17 as well.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/53904512/royal-blue-pashimina

  2. Life During Wartime August 29, 2010 at 1:38 pm #

    I see a couple of shops here that look just like the non-existent Etsy reseller.

  3. Blue Kitty August 29, 2010 at 1:56 pm #

    Pox Says:
    August 29, 2010 at 1:23 pm
    On a similar note, the seller whose thread is causing such an uproar because she has not been able to have a customer complete a checkout in a week, has a pashmina for $17 as well.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/53904512/royal-blue

    ……………………………………

    Is that a deliberate subterfuge? Calling it pashimina instead of pashmina?

    Pashmina being cashmere wool, her pashimina being polyester.

  4. Blue Kitty August 29, 2010 at 1:57 pm #

    Um why is it tagged “jewelry”

  5. Pox August 29, 2010 at 2:01 pm #

    It’s very possible that it could be very cheap to buy these and dye them for nothing AND offer free worldwide shipping? But, her shop seemed a little suspicious, and everyone was so up in arms that she couldn’t make a sale. If she *is* a reseller,I wish all of their carts would break and none of them could make a sale.

  6. somebody August 29, 2010 at 2:08 pm #

    http://www.tradekey.com/kb-pashimina-shawls/

    jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

  7. NotAgain August 29, 2010 at 3:21 pm #

    Bullshit cheap pashmina-labeled scarves have been on Etsy for at least four years. There are a lot of pashmina-stupid people out there, or people who think grandma is too senile to tell the difference between a $17 “pashmina” and a luxuriously hand woven true cashmere shawl.
    The sellers of this shit are so desperate to have a business that they have no stake in the handmade trade anymore, just in turning over product. How is this different from WalMart? It isn’t EXCEPT THAT PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT’S GOOD DON’T SHOP AT WALMART FOR THIS KIND OF THING AND WON’T ON ETSY, EITHER.
    Take your stupid teenager dumbfucks, please.

  8. TooDumb August 29, 2010 at 3:27 pm #

    Ah, duh, $11.00 for a handmade chiffon scarf. Now, how is it handmade? Was it cut out of a bolt (which would be fine, but ?), or is it polyester or silk (either would be fine, but?) ?
    Whatever.

    (I originated the creative grammar in this post all by myself)

  9. somebody August 29, 2010 at 4:50 pm #

    hey, if you originated it, you can sell it on etsy

  10. TooDumb August 29, 2010 at 5:24 pm #

    except I am too dumb

  11. detroit August 29, 2010 at 5:46 pm #

    Pashmina is from yarn from fibers / hairs brushed from some select Himalayan goats. As you can imagine – it’s in a VERY limited quantity, and is very luxurious. That’s why the name ‘Pashmina’ has become famous as a super luxury fabric.

    I’d say 99.99% of what is being sold as ‘Pashmina’, is not.

    Oh – and Etsy sucks monkey balls!

  12. Em August 29, 2010 at 5:50 pm #

    you’re so knowledgeable, detroit. I love reading your posts lol.

    That dolt with the “pashimina” scarf makes me want to jump through my computer screen and strangle her. I really hope nobody’s too dense to believe that scarf is authentic.

  13. Thud August 29, 2010 at 7:05 pm #

    I know silk.
    And I know dyeing.
    Those ‘pashiminas’ are not hand dyed~ they are garment dyed (factory) poly.
    She has chiffon tagged as silk which she states in her listing is poly.
    She has things listed as being tied dyed and shibori which are neither.
    WTF is a ‘crinkle accent’?
    The whole shop is a mess full of false and misleading titles, listings and tags.

  14. Thud August 29, 2010 at 7:07 pm #

    Sorry, that is ‘wrinkle accents’.
    And no way poly chiffon is going to be light airy and breath, ugh, I sweat just thinking about it.

  15. Em August 29, 2010 at 8:47 pm #

    just out of curiosity, I did a search for ‘pashmina’ and haven’t found anything that looks real… found another one that says pashmina in the title, but then at the bottom of the description: “100% viscose.” urgh

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/47859150/off-white-pashmina-shawl-with-hand-drawn?ref=sr_list_9&ga_search_query=pashmina&ga_search_type=handmade&ga_page=3&order=&includes%5B0%5D=tags&includes%5B1%5D=title

  16. imwithya August 29, 2010 at 9:45 pm #

    I don’t think the scarf seller “prettypanda” has handmade anything they’ve ever sold. And they have sold a lot! It’s obvious from many of their descriptions that they don’t even know the materials/techniques of the items.

  17. Amy August 30, 2010 at 4:18 am #

    Designsbyjesy wants to ‘share’ her beautiful products with us. Alarm bells!

  18. JK August 30, 2010 at 5:17 am #

    So cutting off a length of raw fabric is ‘making’ a scarf now? I just boiled water in a kettle and poured it over a teabag in my mug. BRB; listing handmade cup of tea on Etsy!

  19. detroit August 30, 2010 at 8:33 am #

    Em Says:
    August 29, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    you’re so knowledgeable, detroit. I love reading your posts lol.
    _________________________________________________

    Ha ha, thanks! Actually, Google is knowledgeable. And I just waste too much trawling it.

    Thanks the Gods for the internet though. It makes catching these resellers a lot easier – I think. What with tineye and ali baba, etc. available to everyone.

    I can’t imagine what going to college would be like in this day and age. Plagiarizing is so different. My Aunt’s a teacher, and she says she catches students every term, just by plugging their text into a search engine.

    I think those are the same type of idiots who go on to be resellers. The rules don’t apply to them.

  20. losinghope August 30, 2010 at 10:48 am #

    WTF…I know these are not handmade or vintage, but what are they doing on in that shop? Are they supposed to be kinky?
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/54555169/respirator-gasmasks

  21. Sarah August 30, 2010 at 10:51 am #

    Give it another couple of years, and those students (and some of their parents) will probably be defending their plagiary and presenting it as dazzling computer savvy. They’ll probably start bashing all those Luddites out there writing their own papers (and accuse them of just being jealous and having no life, for taking the time to track down the original source of the plagiarized material)!

  22. Life During Wartime August 30, 2010 at 11:29 am #

    punkouture could be a reseller. I find it hard to believe they make jewelry, children’s jeans, dresses, tutus, onesies, and decorated gas masks. It looks like there are lots of catalog photos there, and some alternative model photos. One jewelry listing has only one pic, and it’s distorted like Etsy’s software tried to make it larger. Another jewelry listing has a first photo that doesn’t even include the item for sale. There are no sizes given for the clothing. The descriptions are way too brief to have been written by someone who actually made any of these items.

  23. somebody August 30, 2010 at 11:38 am #

    gas masks: there is a fetish for everything. I broke my leg a few years ago and discovered there is a fetish for girls on crutches. Clothed normally! Occasionally, I kick myself for not submitting photos and getting paid for that. (blacking out my face, of course)

  24. losinghope August 30, 2010 at 11:44 am #

    O.K. the masks are decorated. Well, that makes a difference. Wow, that would be the perfect gift. I’m sure esty would love one of them on the FP.

  25. Life During Wartime August 30, 2010 at 11:48 am #

    Sarah, I agree. But the damage that plagiarism does to the perpetrator is more serious than just making them think they can get away with cheating. It makes them reliant on what they are told by others, and too lazy to look for themselves. It makes unwilling to learn. and unwilling to make judgements about whether the information that manages to penetrate their fog of self-absorbtion is valid or not. Like the Etsy staff.

  26. Laura August 30, 2010 at 12:13 pm #

    pinkcouture has this dress listed that has a tag on it, but I can’t see what it says? http://www.etsy.com/listing/50126505/tube-dress-rockabillypin-upsundress?ref=v1_other_2

  27. Done and Done August 30, 2010 at 12:50 pm #

    Laura Says:

    pinkcouture has this dress listed that has a tag on it, but I can’t see what it says? http://www.etsy.com/listing/50126505/tube-dress-rockabillypin-upsundress?ref=v1_other_2

    —-

    It’s her own tag – has her web address and email printed on it.

  28. Inspector Yuk August 30, 2010 at 1:12 pm #

    Getting back to the seller in the OP–Another big clue that she doesn’t handmake anything in her shop is the fact that she sells such a variety of things, all commercial and none of them relate to what she supposedly ‘makes’. Beads, jewelry findings, pandora beads, stuff to make hair clips, those fake murano glass pendants, all stuff you buy wholesale.

    She doesn’t explain what 100% pashmina cashmere is, if it were really what she claims, she would note that. My guess is she has no idea what the true definition is. Even plain old real ‘cashmere’ is more expensive than these supposed ‘pashminas’.

    She makes no mention of her dying process or what types of dyes she supposedly uses. Most artisans that dye their fiber give some information, whether they use vegetable dyes or note that colorways made in different batches may vary. I just don’t see how she could offer so many colors of hand dyed anything.

  29. somebody August 30, 2010 at 1:15 pm #

    polyester is almost impossible to dye at home and get consistent results. Those scarves are not hand-dyed. at least not by her

  30. Disgusted August 30, 2010 at 1:23 pm #

    Back to the gas masks. Hell no she doesn’t hand make the crap in this shop. Take a look at the chickie in the pink gas mask. Tell me those eyes will never see 40 again. You can only cover so much up with halloween costumes. It will be great if someone buys her crap thinking its a useable gas mask. Can somebody get her a spell check?

  31. Derp August 30, 2010 at 1:43 pm #

    Cyberpunk gas mask with kitty:
    http://www.infectiousthreads.com/big_resp_kat.htm

    punkotoure’s same mask:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/54555169/respirator-gasmasks?ref=v1_other_1

    Blah.

  32. Life During Wartime August 30, 2010 at 1:52 pm #

    The onesies are also marked punkouture. It looks like she makes some of the stuff she sells. Since Etsy’s rules for handmade are easy, even if the other pieces are simply altered or assembled then they are handmade.

  33. detroit August 30, 2010 at 1:56 pm #

    Laura Says:
    August 30, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    pinkcouture has this dress listed that has a tag on it, but I can’t see what it says? etsy.com/listing/50126505/tube-dress-rockabillypin-upsundress?ref=v1_other_2
    ___________________________________

    I *think* it says punkouture.com

    If you go there, you see the dresses. Could be made by them, hard to tell. They’re Etsy shop is definitely a hot mess though – lol.

  34. detroit August 30, 2010 at 1:56 pm #

    http://punkouture.com/accessories.htm

    Here’s the same design as on the tag.

  35. Life During Wartime August 30, 2010 at 2:08 pm #

    Sorry to get off topic, but maybe we should have a blog post here about Etsy’s plans to allow you to make your purchases private.

    I know that on Ebay private auctions were the screen that fraudulent ‘antiques’ sellers hid behind, auctioning the same ‘rare’ items every week or so to a new group of unsuspecting bidders. Who could not be warned away because their IDs were kept private.

    Do you think Etsy is allowing private transactions in part to protect resellers and their customers? It seems like it would open the door to unlimited shill buying as well.

  36. JK August 30, 2010 at 3:26 pm #

    I think Etsy need to concentrate on solving the problems it already has before creating new ones for itself, but I think that line of reasoning goes against Etsy policy.

  37. Life During Wartime August 30, 2010 at 4:12 pm #

    Good point, JK.

  38. TooDumb August 30, 2010 at 5:02 pm #

    If it ain’t broke, don’t fix. If it is broke PLEASE FIX IT!

  39. detroit August 30, 2010 at 7:19 pm #

    Yeah – Etsy needs to LEARN from Ebay, not follow in its footsteps. My SO sells on Ebay for a living, and they (Ebay) eliminated seller feedback. Meaning someone can have an account. and make a few legit purchases here and there to garner 100% feedback. But then, for the big items they want… they buy it, receive it, file a complaint that they didn’t receive it, and get a Paypal refund.

    At least once a month, my SO gets a paypal chargeback for non-receipt of an item he’s just sent. The buyer never contacted him. It’s patently obvious they received the item, and filed the claim.

    And there’s nothing the sellers can do. He tries to be vigilant. But gets ‘taken’ for a couple hundred dollars a year. He just charges it to the ‘game’.

    It’s clear when someone’s having legit postal problems. They contact us, ask for tracking info. Keep the lines of communication open until they receive the item.

    The scammers just file ‘Item not received’ five days after the auction ended – with no contact. (eg – after they safely received the package)

    And we can’t leave a negative for this behavior.

    Ebay WAY favors the buyers over its real customers – the SELLERS!

    Long winded way of saying – these Ebay issues have been around forever. And are well documented. They invented the wheel. Now Etsy should use it and improve upon it. Not re-chisel it from stone, as they seem to be doing!

    There are so many well documented buyer scams. Why does Etsy allow them??

  40. detroit August 30, 2010 at 7:30 pm #

    Oh – so my whole point was – private history (like Ebay has) – I can see why buyers would want that. Say I want to buy tons of christmas gifts for the grandkids. But I also want to pick up one of them bedazzled gasmasks for a little ‘adult’ time with gramma (ewww! I feel dirty typing that!)

    My SO sells music. And a lot of the DJs who buy from him want to keep their sources secret. (like anyone cares…but, that’s their self-important prerogative – lol)

    Anyway – I can see legit reasons why people would want to keep their history private, but it opens up a whole world of abuse!! Just like the rule on Ebay that sellers can’t leave feedback.

    Etsy – tread carefully!!

    Oh, it’s Etsy. Never mind.

  41. GucciPucciCoo August 30, 2010 at 7:40 pm #

    Looks like somebody’s been shopping on Canal St. Those exact “Pashminas” were 3/$10, I brought a PILE of them back for friends and family!! Pretty good return on her purchase I might add…

  42. Back Again August 31, 2010 at 4:35 am #

    About the PrettyPanda fiasco…it’s sad really.
    If Etsy had a better track record (ie, not screwing things up royally at every turn and not giving a shit), perhaps other sellers would have taken a closer look at panda’s shop. I mean come on, everybody loves a self-calling-out reseller and most of the people who posted their outrage in that thread would have gladly taken part in another “ruh-roh” trainwreck…but everyone is so used to Etsy screwing with people’s livelihoods, that the first instinct was to stand up for panda. Etsy itself is a hot mess, period.

  43. Laura August 31, 2010 at 4:38 am #

    Another non reseller on Etsy-http://www.etsy.com/listing/48896813/magician-costume-in-red-for-american?ref=v1_other_2

    Really, she makes these clothes that are available here:
    http://www.magicgenie.biz/Costumes18.htm
    This site states the clothes are made from their own design.

    Maybe she designed them, but no way is she making these.

  44. Laura August 31, 2010 at 4:39 am #

    Sorry, first link: http://www.etsy.com/shop/Magicgeniecrafts?ref=seller_info

    I just saw those two are the same shop, but you think she’s sewing these?

  45. TooDumb August 31, 2010 at 5:15 am #

    Yes,k I do think she is sewing those.

  46. Disgusted August 31, 2010 at 6:20 am #

    Yeah – Etsy needs to LEARN from Ebay, not follow in its footsteps.
    _____
    Ebay sellers cannot leave anything but positive FB for buyers. Sellers are no longer able to look at someone’s FB and see if there is a chance they will actually pay for something. You then get stuck with a non paying bidder and it takes more than three weeks to cancel the listing, get it back and re sell it. Unless you are selling an item that could result in a potential bloodbath price wise at the end, there is little reason to sell there anymore.

  47. Disgusted August 31, 2010 at 6:22 am #

    Another non reseller on Etsy-http://www.etsy.com/listing/48896813/magician-costume-in-red-for-american?ref=v1_other_2

    Really, she makes these clothes that are available here:
    http://www.magicgenie.biz/Costumes18.htm
    This site states the clothes are made from their own design.

    Maybe she designed them, but no way is she making these.
    _______
    Most people with sewing ability can make doll clothes – thats how a lot of us learned to sew. I think she could make them at home herself but she might have to be tied to the sewing machine. I think you could make an outfit in an hour so a $20 an hour wage (not counting materials) would be ok for a stay at home job.

  48. Laura August 31, 2010 at 7:51 am #

    Yeah, I think you are right. My bad!

  49. PIF August 31, 2010 at 8:23 am #

    This shop has 298 items tagged as pif/pay it forward. http://www.etsy.com/shop/corilightfoot/search?search_query=pif&search_type=user_shop_ttt_id_7473693&shopname=corilightfoot

  50. Inspector Yuk August 31, 2010 at 10:46 am #

    Affiliate shop to the Haute Couture shop listed above: http://www.etsy.com/shop/Primitivesforsale

    Why is everything listed in the wedding category??????????

    And I’m pretty sure this trio of shops was called out once already here. I remember the ‘chalkware’ rug santa.

  51. Inspector Yuk August 31, 2010 at 11:11 am #

    Life During Wartime Says:
    August 30, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    Sorry to get off topic, but maybe we should have a blog post here about Etsy’s plans to allow you to make your purchases private.

    I know that on Ebay private auctions were the screen that fraudulent ‘antiques’ sellers hid behind, auctioning the same ‘rare’ items every week or so to a new group of unsuspecting bidders. Who could not be warned away because their IDs were kept private.

    Do you think Etsy is allowing private transactions in part to protect resellers and their customers? It seems like it would open the door to unlimited shill buying as well.
    _____________________________________________________________

    I’d love to discuss this as well. The thread in the forums is so convoluted at this point with so many knuckleheads who think that feedback is going to be hidden completely and they’re giving the wrong impression.

    The idiots saying that if someone leaves a negative or neutral they should not have any anonymity are not taking into account that that will force false positives or complete lack of feedback altogether if one is unhappy with their purchase. This would render the feedback system even more useless than it already is.

    I would also like to point out that it will be much more difficult to ‘call out’ in the forums when someone simply asks about a feedback issue, and I think that is a good thing.

    While I was once a proponent of a buyer id with no ability to post in forums or chat or comment anywhere, I’d be for it 100% if all the id’s were revealed to the seller. They don’t have to be displayed publicly, but I think it’s only fair for this information to be available to the seller.

    I think it’s going to be very difficult to please everyone on this issue, so IMO taking the buyer’s perspective in this should be the first concern.

  52. Life During Wartime August 31, 2010 at 11:32 am #

    It appears that HauteCoutureFashions/PrimitivesForSale/AsTimeGoesBuy (she has 3 shops!) has no idea what Etsy is about. She may be just a careless lister, and landed on weddings when she meant to be in vintage. It mostly looks from her category choices like she thinks Etsy is Ebay with smaller fees.

    I haven’t a clue about the purses/bags, whether or not they are vintage, or if what she sellss in her other shops is handmade by her. These are types of merchandise I know too little about to have an opinion.

  53. bellacruz August 31, 2010 at 2:48 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6615727

    I’m not sure about the accused shop,.

  54. Sarah August 31, 2010 at 3:14 pm #

    Regarding the feedback privacy issue, I’m sort of torn. On the one hand, I totally understand why people would want their purchases private, both for business and personal reasons, and yeah, there are some things I won’t buy on Etsy, because my customers/family could see. But I don’t like the idea that, under the system they’ve described, if I’m considering buying from a seller and I see they have a negative or two, I’ll no longer be able to follow the feedback trail back to the person who left it to see if they have a habit leaving bad or crazy-sounding feedback. It’s also still unclear to me (and apologies if this was eventually straightened out in the thread, I haven’t finished it yet) if one unhappy camper who buys 20 items and negs them all will look like 20 unique individuals, once we can’t see the buyer id.

    And there isn’t a shop tool or an Etsy fix that’s been dreamed up that I want more than rapid and efficient handling of resellers, they could seriously suspend development of every widget they’ve promised us and I’d be happy if I just saw some progress bringing Etsy back in line with what it was sold to us as.

  55. Sarah August 31, 2010 at 4:33 pm #

    Oops, bangle, not ring.

  56. RocksInMySocks August 31, 2010 at 5:55 pm #

    bellacruz Says:
    August 31, 2010 at 2:48 pm
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6615727

    I’m not sure about the accused shop,.

    ————————

    It’s pretty obvious from reading bunnylogic’s feedback that practically EVERY item they sell gets “lost in the mail”. If anyone checks that feedback and still places an order, they’re gullible as hell. Shades of poetsummer, anyone?

  57. TooDumb August 31, 2010 at 6:01 pm #

    re: bunnylogic. You get what you pay for.

  58. TooDumb August 31, 2010 at 6:18 pm #

    With these, you get a lot less than you pay for.
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/55151543/unique-havaianas-alice-wonderland

  59. Disgusted August 31, 2010 at 8:27 pm #

    With these, you get a lot less than you pay for.
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/55151543/unique-havaianas-alice-wonderland
    ____
    But at least they look handmade to an extent!

  60. jenjasmine September 1, 2010 at 3:12 am #

    Something tells me that bunnylogic is a huge can of worms. Look how many shops they have

    Please also visit our other etsy stores:
    JewelryFindingsStore.etsy.com (for jewelry findings)
    throughthelens1.etsy.com (for photography)
    craftingsupplies.etsy.com (for origami paper, lucky star stripes, cookie cutters, etc)
    funnysky.etsy.com (for paper crafts)
    eggcreations.etsy.com (for every day t-shirts)
    bunnylogic.etsy.com (for jewelry)
    BannerBanner.etsy.com (for digital supplies)
    littlebutter.etsy.com (for funny t-shirts)

    And a blog!

  61. TooDumb September 1, 2010 at 5:21 am #

    At least they divulge

  62. Disgusted September 1, 2010 at 7:24 am #

    With these, you get a lot less than you pay for.
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/55151543/unique-havaianas-alice-wonderland
    ____
    I was also thinking they could promote these as “Paris Hilton Shower Shoes” for when she goes to prison.

  63. eyefortineye September 1, 2010 at 10:00 am #

    snort Brazilian dime-store flipflops from HONG KONG. please I hope nobody gets suckered. alice in wonderland inspired – what kind of crap is that? Oh *snap* I remember now, Alice wore flipflops during her adventures! right?

    uhhhhh a CLUE

  64. JohnCock September 1, 2010 at 5:18 pm #

    Turdy seller

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/madebybang?ref=seller_info

  65. TooDumb September 1, 2010 at 9:54 pm #

    John, turdy indeed.
    “Description
    carmel color LV logos

    black cotton and lycra knee socks

    wear: 1 times

    size: under 8

    perfect for coming season~”

    AND HANDMADE CATEGORY TO BOOT

  66. Life During Wartime September 2, 2010 at 12:26 pm #

    I had to LOL at bang’s favorite materials: paper natural fabric love feeling.

  67. Help September 2, 2010 at 7:11 pm #

    I have been flagging this shop for months and the seller has changed item description to “I have dyed this scarf (originally white fabric) into a beautiful deep solid color”. Please help flagging this shop in the OP. http://www.etsy.com/shop/Designsbyjesy

  68. VanGogh September 3, 2010 at 7:02 am #

    “The fabric is made of a luxuriously sumptuous 100% Pashmina Cashmere fabric.” WTF And no, you cannot dye polyester.

  69. eyefortineye September 3, 2010 at 7:59 am #

    she’s had almost 1200 sales since dec 2009 – argh.

    yes, etsy is turning into one big ebay garage sale…

  70. ohmygosh September 7, 2010 at 5:51 pm #

    I have been flagging these shops repeatedly, but nothing has been done yet. It looks like one shop is copying the other.

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/flaxdesigns
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/Designsbyjesy?section_id=6637007

  71. Help September 7, 2010 at 7:40 pm #

    These two shops are selling the same items.

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/flaxdesigns
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/Designsbyjesy?section_id=6637007

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