PeruvianArtDesigns, NewFashionedWhispers

8 Sep

Peruvian items shop in Alabama is already pretty suspect but here are her “handmade” necklaces for wholesale:

http://www.etsy.com/shop/PeruvianArtDesigns?section_id=7076378
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peru-Lot-10-Ethnic-Bulls-Horn-Pendants-Inka-Art-/110567469263?pt=UK_WSJL_Wholesale_GL
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Not sure about this email we received since we are not educated in “hand forged” but here it is anyways:

I cannot believe the blatant lie about the bead caps made into flowers as being “Hand Forged Flowers”.

I have over 100 of these bead caps that I use in my earring designs and they are just brass bead caps pressed and stamped out of a sheet of metal.

I cannot believe the gall of some people to fluff up their listing to hike up the price.

Sorry, just venting.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/48950910/urban-bride-a-romantic-hand-forged

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55 Responses to “PeruvianArtDesigns, NewFashionedWhispers”

  1. notvintage September 8, 2010 at 9:13 am #

    Urban Bride. Yep. Brides are fresh for the picking.

  2. Life During Wartime September 8, 2010 at 9:49 am #

    The alarm bells go off when the seller describes the locket as ‘gold’. I don’t think so! Looks like gold-tone base metal, gold plate. Someone who ‘hand forges’ their jewelry wouldn’t be that careless.

  3. um no September 8, 2010 at 9:58 am #

    Maybe the flowers came flat and she bent them? HAND forged! C’mon! Yark.

  4. Lizzy September 8, 2010 at 10:35 am #

    For some reason I thought I saw the current featured seller called out once here???

  5. damn September 8, 2010 at 2:27 pm #

    OMG Lizzy you beat me to it!
    Please correct me if I’m wrong, I tried to search for them on here but nothing came up!
    http://www.etsy.com/storque/spotlight/featured-seller-revolt70-9234/

  6. Lizzy September 8, 2010 at 2:35 pm #

    damn Says:
    September 8, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    OMG Lizzy you beat me to it!
    Please correct me if I’m wrong, I tried to search for them on here but nothing came up!
    http://www.etsy.com/storque/spotlight/featured-seller-revolt70-9234/
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yay! I thought I was crazy-lol
    I searched on here but couldn’t find anything but I would swear up and down that shop has been on here before.

  7. Stacey September 8, 2010 at 2:40 pm #

    If by “hand-forged” she means “I took premade bead caps and bent the petals up”, then she’s totally right. Seriously, it is a cute necklace, and people have no problem buying assembled jewelry… why exaggerate this way???? Lame.

  8. handmedown September 8, 2010 at 2:50 pm #

    I totally remember that shop and the watches.

  9. Life During Wartime September 8, 2010 at 3:49 pm #

    I love how all the watch descriptions say you can get the only one in the world…after its been sold a handful of times already on Etsy. WTF?

  10. bellacruz September 8, 2010 at 6:27 pm #

    So, what’s up with the featured watch shop? What’s the scoop? Not handmade?

  11. um no September 8, 2010 at 7:32 pm #

    I love this. http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6622843

  12. etsycallout September 8, 2010 at 8:02 pm #

    it is alot to expect them to hand make 400+ items 🙂

  13. Inspector Yuk September 8, 2010 at 8:29 pm #

    Well, regarding the revolting watch shop, why is it that none of the members of this shop are listed in their profile? Isn’t that a rule that if you are a collective shop you have to list the members and their roles? And according to their interview, each of the ‘watchmakers’ also have their own shops. So….why are the other shops not listed? And why are the other shops not mentioning anything about the revolting shop they are supposedly a part of?

    If they hadn’t had this interview, no one would know. Speaking of the interview, it didn’t ring genuine to me at all. It sounded like one giant Korean fairytale.

    And what’s with the crappy pictures? I thought it was necessary to have great pictures in order to get on the front page or in a feature spot? All the earring are sideways, most of the pictures are so dark…..

    I am really wondering about the motive behind featuring this shop. I think it was to send the message that multiple person ‘collective’ asian shops that sell questionable ‘handmade’ items have Etsy’s blessing. Not that they don’t send that message daily by not closing down resellers, but that like lying by omission. This is an active move to establish them and welcome them with open arms.

  14. Cat Power September 8, 2010 at 9:30 pm #

    I saw that earlier today, and I know that I had flagged that shop at least once, and probably more. Makes me sick to see how low Etsy has sunk.

    I have 5 more items waiting to expire, and then it’s bye-bye for me. Unfortunately I love to watch the train wrecks and read this great blog, so guess it won’t be total withdrawal…just used for entertainment value.

    Sad, sad, sad.

  15. eyefortineye September 8, 2010 at 10:42 pm #

    so the watch people have sold 469 since opening in january this year, and have another 399 listed for sale. that means they make over 100 watches a month – interesting. and at those prices, they’re making loads o dough.

  16. jenjasmine September 8, 2010 at 11:57 pm #

    Just the etsy way of saying “see ya, wouldn’t wanta be ya”

    Suckers!

  17. jenjasmine September 9, 2010 at 1:57 am #

    Art speak run amok

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/55892573/modern-abstract-oil-painting-midnight?ref=fp_recent

  18. jenjasmine September 9, 2010 at 2:01 am #

    Due to the caliber of the product, we take extra care to ship it to you safely. Each piece has corner protectors and is wrapped very tightly in a secure clear wrap. We ship over 2500 paintings a month and we don’t ever run into damages. Your package will get to you in perfect condition.

    ***

    Yup, all the painters *I* know can paint 2500 paintings a month! They are super prolific!

  19. Nicole September 9, 2010 at 2:31 am #

    newfashioned whispers has totally copied this store, the photography & presentation has morphed (look at her early sold items) so that i thought this was the same store:

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/SeaUnicorn/sold

    i have these bead caps too and the bead caps are sold flat (they are soft and pliable, and can be moved with your fingertips) and she’s pushed the petals up.

  20. tippy September 9, 2010 at 2:37 am #

    http://www.etsy.com/people/nanbeix

    How come his policies and shop announcement sound completely different than his profile. And there is talk of “we” and “artists” in announcement and he says in his profile “here which are all made by myself.”???

  21. Blue Kitty September 9, 2010 at 3:17 am #

    Split personality disorder.

  22. ScrapMetal September 9, 2010 at 5:21 am #

    The watch shop- the items look pretty unique- so I’m guessing they’re handmade. So what is the issue with them- that they are not totally forthcoming with the fact they are a collective? That perhaps there are small children slaving away in the back making their pieces while the cutesy ones are hamming it up for the camera in the front? What do you think?

  23. OhNoItsNOT September 9, 2010 at 5:51 am #

    Please. Which is it? “The team collaborates and discusses, but one person makes one watch from start to finish.”
    OR
    “our team of five artisans combines fine, traditional Korean craftsmanship with sterling quality and stunningly unique design. ”

    If you read the description http://www.etsy.com/listing/55706396/new-arrived-lady-watched-funny-series
    you will see that the watch is not for sale– it’s a custom order listing. This is how they get around the OOAK description.

    And yes, I think this is full of shit.

  24. Disgusted September 9, 2010 at 6:37 am #

    What a crock of shit. Etsy cannot bother to feature any real artist of any kind in the various articles. Instead, they want to showcase people who ignore the TOU. Glad I am moving to Artfire!

  25. eyefortineye September 9, 2010 at 6:39 am #

    that nanbiex shop announcement says they have shipped over 7,000.

    Lot of work for a single person even if it was a lifetime of painting and packing and shipping

  26. BooYah September 9, 2010 at 7:01 am #

    nanbeix was uh-oh 30 minutes ago, not it is back without any items.
    When this happens, you can be sure that they saw this blog, because Etsy sure wouldn’t do anything about it.

    (Featured seller, schmeatured seller)

  27. damn September 9, 2010 at 7:55 am #

    Disgusted Says:
    September 9, 2010 at 6:37 am

    What a crock of shit. Etsy cannot bother to feature any real artist of any kind in the various articles. Instead, they want to showcase people who ignore the TOU. Glad I am moving to Artfire!
    —————

    If Artfire didn’t look so…”ghetto – trailer parkish” Etsy would would actually some real competition.

  28. shameshame September 9, 2010 at 8:44 am #

    Here at Marianne, we aim to provide you with the highest quality 100% handmade watches. These watches are all unique and one of a kind. Rest assured that you will be the only person in the world wearing your watch!

    ~~~~~

    I want to know how I can be the only person wearing the watch in the world when their are 37 available?!

    Thank you etsy for telling all the actual handmade shops to go screw themselves. There is no doubt where you stand on resellers..oh, I’m sorry, “collectives”!

  29. whydammit September 9, 2010 at 9:42 am #

    it’s okay you can get their watches on artfire as well.
    http://www.artfire.com/modules.php?name=Shop&seller_id=75239&op=new&body=1

  30. Pox September 9, 2010 at 9:59 am #

    And ebay:
    http://stores.ebay.com/SteamPunk-HandMade-Watches-Studio

  31. eyefortineye September 9, 2010 at 9:59 am #

    So, in addition to the 300 currently for sale on Etsy, they have another 27 pages of them on artfire – how many can watches can a single person make?

  32. eyefortineye September 9, 2010 at 10:02 am #

    okay, so add 247 from ebay. busy little off-shore beavers, eh?

  33. Life During Wartime September 9, 2010 at 11:24 am #

    I’m not sure what is so awesome about watches with handmade straps and face plates which aren’t OOAK to command those prices? What am I missing about this shop?

  34. BooYah September 9, 2010 at 11:39 am #

    LDW: it’s kewl and all steampunky

  35. Disgusted September 9, 2010 at 12:18 pm #

    If Artfire didn’t look so…”ghetto – trailer parkish” Etsy would would actually some real competition.
    ___
    Artfire doesn’t have the look Etsy has with all the sideways/blurred background pictures. It does seem to try to protect the copyrighted images of its users, advises not to steal others works, etc. The site actually seems to be trying to promote handmade vs Etsy that wants to show how world-wide they are by letting in every sweat shop item they can find.

  36. crazy cat lady September 9, 2010 at 12:34 pm #

    Damn I like those watches. A LOT. Why do they have to be all dishonest and shit? 😦

  37. BooYah September 9, 2010 at 2:14 pm #

    Apparently a lot of people like those watches. To each his own. Personally, I would feel like an idiot wearing one. Give me my 14 carat Bulova.

  38. eyefortineye September 9, 2010 at 2:21 pm #

    I really like some of them, too. As a fat old lady, I* probably* wouldn’t wear one, lol, but I like the style and appreciate the creativity. I just have doubts that one person really assembles all those hundreds.

  39. crazy cat lady September 9, 2010 at 2:26 pm #

    Boo, to each her own – no need for insults. My DH loves his Cartier watch. I’ve looked at Rolex, Cartier, Bulova, Omega, etc. and they’re nice, really…just not my style…I’m way too casual. A 14 carat watch would look really silly with the rest of my wardrobe. Right now I wear a Fossil.

  40. ScrapMetal September 9, 2010 at 2:41 pm #

    I think ArtFire is coming up- at least I hope so, since I opened shop there. I think the “look” is different b/c the folks there are not focusing so much on how it looks to the same extent that Etsy seems so hell-bent on. Yes, the Etsy “look” is cool, chic, and sophisticated, but many times resold stuff can look just as purty as the 100% handmade, as everyone here can attest to.

  41. JohnCock September 9, 2010 at 2:43 pm #

    If Artfire doesn’t attract buyers, it really doesn’t matter what it looks like. That goes for any handmade site.

  42. BooYah September 9, 2010 at 4:05 pm #

    My point was opaque, I know. The fact is, Etsy and AF both tend to attract customers on a budget. That’s a nicer way to say it: Great for them but not so great for artisans.

  43. ebilly September 9, 2010 at 5:49 pm #

    My $ per sale is higher on AR than it is on etsy. And on AF if you PUT IT IN THE RIGHT PLACE you are ok. And I have a HMC on AF. You will never see that on etsy.

  44. marn September 10, 2010 at 7:35 am #

    has anyone looked at the blog linked from revolt70/marianne’s shop profile? various sections appear to be copied word-for-word in the FS “interview.”

    http://sunnygift.net/kimchifellow/page/11/

  45. Life During Wartime September 10, 2010 at 10:00 am #

    I am to old to ‘get’ their watches, but I love kimchi! I have a jar of extra spicey in the fridge right now. Well, half a jar.

  46. Back Again September 10, 2010 at 10:35 am #

    FWIW, ArtFire will be ‘tidying up’ their main page very soon with hand-picked collections. AND…measures will be taken to actually prevent any one seller (or a handful) from dominating that space…what a concept!
    It may not have the Etsy Look, but that’s what I’m looking forward to…nice, curated collections of items without the ridiculous repeats, and without the cult-ish idea of, “Etsy has decided that foxes are a trend now, so everyone, get to painting/crocheting/sewing anything fox-related if you want to be successful!” Gah.

    I also find it interesting in that closed thread posted above…that some people tried to defend the “only one in the world” claim as being a possible result of bad translation. C’monnnn. Everything in that interview was very straightforward, even the humorous bits. And then someone wanted to try, “But they didn’t say One Of A Kind”… holy cow what’s the difference between OOAK and Only One in the World?
    Just because Etsy chose them as the FS does not mean they are completely legit. *Wake up, people!*
    And they wonder why people talk about drinking the Koolaid.

  47. Back Again September 10, 2010 at 10:57 am #

    Forgot to say: Engraving different initials on several watches of the same style doesn’t quite fit the description of “only one in the world”, but maybe that’s just me 😉

  48. Life During Wartime September 10, 2010 at 11:19 am #

    I agree. Monograms don’t make a OOAK out of a piece that has been made in the hundreds.

  49. eyefortineye September 10, 2010 at 11:19 am #

    not a biggee, but it bothers me – Marianne is spelled differently in their shop announcement as opposed to their listings. Can’t help it – proofread without thinking about it.

  50. it stinks September 10, 2010 at 11:33 am #

    Does anyone else think it’s odd that “marianne” who is the “designer/leader” or whatever has a very American sounding name but all the others in the “collective” have very Korean sounding names?
    Also that blog link above in #44’s comment has a post for VintageJamie. Again, Jamie is a very American name but all the members of her family that she mentions have very Korean names.

    I find that odd.

  51. um_ya September 10, 2010 at 12:59 pm #

    Does anyone else think it’s odd that “marianne” who is the “designer/leader” or whatever has a very American sounding name but all the others in the “collective” have very Korean sounding names?
    Also that blog link above in #44′s comment has a post for VintageJamie. Again, Jamie is a very American name but all the members of her family that she mentions have very Korean names.

    I find that odd.
    ————————————————————–
    There are many Asian students at the school I teach and it is very common to Americanize a Chinese or Korean name or for young people to use an American name. I don’t think there is any intent to be dishonest with the names. The Etsy shop, on the other hand, is questionable.

  52. eyefortineye September 11, 2010 at 8:19 pm #

    *snickering* John Big Booty “That’s pronounced Boo-TAY, John Boote”

  53. Sara September 12, 2010 at 7:06 pm #

    My best friend in 2nd grade tried to name herself Wendy to fit in (instead of Wenjia)

  54. eyefortineye September 13, 2010 at 6:23 pm #

    Like when you call tech support for something and you get the beautiful sing-songy Indian voice saying “Hello, my name is Sheldon, how may I help you?”

  55. Melissa December 4, 2010 at 3:27 pm #

    Hey guys,

    When I wrote “Hand forged” on my “Urban bride” necklace listing I simply meant I had taken the flowers and shaped them around the pearls. I did not mean to imply that I actually made them.

    As for the user “Seaunicorn” I didn’t copy anything of hers. I had not even heard of her store until she contacted me to chat and discuss our love for making jewelry. She’s a wonderful lady! And yes, some of our designs are very similar.

    Merry Christmas guys,

    Melissa:)

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