Reader Email: BrokenGhostCouture, aka MyFairMaiden and TattyTess

16 Sep

Where to even start with this one? It’s quite a tangled web and seems to have far too many coincidences to be on the up and up. First of all, I’ve been following the forum threads about the front page repeats with some interest although I’ve probably missed plenty of them. There’s one seller who seems to show up in every thread to defend the constant repeats and slam anyone who dares to complain. No, I’m not talking about Polestar. It’s BrokenGhostCouture, aka MyFairMaiden and TattyTess.

http://www.etsy.com/shop/Brokenghostcouture

http://www.etsy.com/shop/MyFairMaiden

http://www.etsy.com/shop/TattyTess

I think she also has at least two undisclosed accounts which she’s been using to create treasuries to help get one of her three shops on the front page. These accounts are under the name SnowInJune and TessaF1993.

Specifics: SnowInJune registered on Etsy on May 30, 2010 and lists her location as the great white north, another name for Canada, and home to brokenghostcouture, as well. SnowinJune has made 19 treasuries in that time and only one small purchase. Of the 19 treasuries she’s made, every single one of them features either brokenghostcouture, tattytess, or myfairmaiden.

http://www.etsy.com/treasury/search/snowinjune

According to Craftcult, 7 of these 19 treasuries have made the front page. That’s 7 treasuries in less than 4 months on the front page and all of them featuring brokenghostcouture or one of her other 2 shops:

http://craftcult.com/vault.php?fm=3&esn=snowinjune&st=2&date=1284597438

Even better, check out the very first treasury she made and look at the avatar she was using at that time.

Now, check out brokenghostcouture’s curated front page lists on craftcult:

http://craftcult.com/vault.php?fm=3&esn=brokenghostcouture&st=2&date=1284605198

Does anyone else think that those avatars look like the same person? Except for the hair color, of course.

Now, check out this treasury from MyFairmaiden, one of the three disclosed accounts, that made the front page in April:

http://craftcult.com/vault_list.php?list=10286&userid=&fm=3&esn=myfairmaiden&m=9&d=15&st=2&pagenum=1&ls=0

She actually featured one of her other shops (brokenghostcouture) front and center and it still made it to the front page!

The account under the name TessaF1993 was opened on August 20, 2010 and has no feedback. She’s evidently been too busy making treasuries to buy anything. Here’s her Treasury East history. Fifteen treasuries made in less than 4 weeks and ALL of them featuring, you guessed it, brokenghostcouture, tattytess, or myfairmaiden.

http://www.etsy.com/treasury/search/TessaF1993

Of course, 2 of them have already made the front page. Pretty fast work for someone who’s been an Etsy member for less than a month and has never bought anything:

http://craftcult.com/vault.php?fm=3&esn=tessaf1993&st=2&date=1284600932

If you’d like to check out even more “coincidences”, pay a visit to treasury east and search for brokenghostcouture. She features one of her other 2 shops in each and every treasury she makes.

A lot of this started to come out in this thread (now closed for calling out, of course), especially around page 12:

http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6627838&page=12

Here’s an example of the nastiness that brokenghostcouture spouts in any thread that criticizes the front page repetition. This post is from this thread which is still open:

http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6627234&page=5

Brokenghostcouture says:

“I’d be really interested to see a shop who sells a product that has wide appeal with buyers, who has visually stunning photos, has a large inventory and adds several new items daily as well as renewing many daily, that ISN’T being featured in a lot of treasuries and in turn FP spots.

If I can be shown such a shop or shops, then I’d be convinced that something is awry here. But…so far, I haven’t seen this. The only ones I see on FP regularly are the ones who 100% qualify in all the points I listed above (add in make treasuries often, network with other sellers, tag items in a treasury-friendly way). The ones who aren’t being featured often in treasuries or FP…need to make some changes to get there.”

According to past admin forum posts, brokenghost is seriously violating the treasury rules:

HeyMichelle says:

Lauren is correct.

If people are putting their own items from a different account into their treasury, then it may not be caught. In that case, we encourage anyone who sees someone putting their own items from a different account into their treasury to send an email about it to abuse [!at] etsy.com. Thanks.

Posted at 5:53 pm, November 19, 2008 ET – Report this post
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HeyMichelle says:

Right. Don’t put items from an alternate account into a treasury list.

There isn’t any “punishment”, unless I guess they keep doing it. They’ll just get a letter from an admin explaining the rules, I believe.

Posted at 6:02 pm, November 19, 2008 ET – Report this post
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stellaloella says:

Michelle’s point is the same as the basic written rule: the Treasury is not for self-promotion. That means for the PERSON, not just the username.

We generally let people feature one of their own items in a list without sweating it, though that item will be removed if the list is promoted to the front page. If someone is adding their own items from different usernames they hold, it gets difficult to tell that self-promotion is happening (especially because people often do not disclose multiple accounts as they should).

While the person may not be intending to be deceitful, it’s not really in the spirit of the Treasury to feature your other shops. The Treasury is intended to feature the work of other sellers that you admire. If you see excessive abuse for self-promotion, then we ask you let us know so we can work with the member to correct the situation. Simple as that.

Posted at 6:16 pm, November 19, 2008 ET – Report this post

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I encourage everyone to report these violations to administration. If Etsy had a top 10 list for asshat sellers, she’d be right at the top for me!

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167 Responses to “Reader Email: BrokenGhostCouture, aka MyFairMaiden and TattyTess”

  1. me September 16, 2010 at 9:35 am #

    Man, I wish 7 out of every 19 treasuries I made got to the FP…

  2. noCigar September 16, 2010 at 9:52 am #

    She’s new, but hasn’t seen shops that reach her standards. Pretty broad statement for someone who can’t possibly look at every shop that’s listing.
    ps: sewing a doily on a shirt doesn’t rate the FP in my opinion, and I have been cruising Etsy since 2005 and haven’t even scratched the surface. Of course, that is just my opinion but so is hers.

  3. Life During Wartime September 16, 2010 at 10:48 am #

    I just looked at brokenghost’s three shops. They all have the same look and feel, so there is no reason related to branding for her to have three shops. I am wondering if some sellers are opening additional shops to sell identical or very similar things just so they can curate treasuries including their other shops?

  4. JohnCock September 16, 2010 at 10:52 am #

    I am sure that is the case Life.

  5. brokenghostcouture September 16, 2010 at 10:56 am #

    wow. simply. wow.

    Snowinjune and TessaF1993 are NOT my accounts. Do I know these people? YES! Are they going against the TOU’s for featuring me in treasuries? NO.

    I DO have some treasuries in MY accounts that feature my own items. What I see when you go to make a treasury is this:

    If you’d like your list to be chosen for inclusion on Etsy’s home page, here are a few tips:

    * Be diverse! No more than one item per shop.
    * Don’t include your own items. Spread the love!
    * Make it beautiful.

    Notice how it states if you’d like it to be considered for FP, don’t include one of your own items? What if I don’t care if it does? If a secondary rule, not mentioned anywhere else on etsy is thrown out into a thread in 2008, how would anyone know about it? That’s the first time I’ve ever seen it. Before treasury East, it said “don’t include MORE THAN ONE of your items”…which means you can ADD ONE OF YOUR OWN ITEMS. Have any of my treasuries made it to FP with my own item in it? Once, before T-east in April 2008 which seems to be enough to have forum hags kicking me in the face for it. Despicable behavior.

    Sadly, I’ve never come across such hating, spiteful, misinformed, delusional people before in my life than I have in forums. Most of the forum users are not like this…there’s just a small amount of disease that spoils it for everyone.

  6. Life During Wartime September 16, 2010 at 11:26 am #

    Please don’t play stoopid, brokenghost! Etsy requires that sellers disclose all their other accounts to deter shilling. In the real world (outside of Etsy) shilling has more meanings than buying from your own shop and then leaving glowing feedback. For example, their is shill bidding at estate auctions, either for the benefit of the auction house or for the benefit of the consignor.

    Including shops you own in your treasuries is a form of shilling. It is self-promotion which is hidden from anyone who does not view your shop announcements to check. If Etsy’s rules suggest you NOT curate treasuries with an item you have for sale in the collection, that means an item you have for sale IN ANY SHOP THAT IS YOURS not just the shop ID you use as curator.

  7. Call Out Grll September 16, 2010 at 11:40 am #

    Sheesh. That’s a helluva lotta trouble to go to for 164 measly sales from 3 shops in nearly 2 years.

  8. Forum Hag September 16, 2010 at 11:43 am #

    hahahahahaha!

  9. brokenghostcouture September 16, 2010 at 11:44 am #

    Call Out Grll Says:
    September 16, 2010 at 11:40 am

    Sheesh. That’s a helluva lotta trouble to go to for 164 measly sales from 3 shops in nearly 2 years.
    _______________________________________
    What trouble have I gone to?????????????

  10. Brian September 16, 2010 at 11:47 am #

    You’re right, OP. That’s the same person in both avatars. It’s totally obvious! Same jaw, same teeth, same nose, same cheekbones.

  11. Back Again September 16, 2010 at 11:52 am #

    Brokenghostcouture– Let’s say for the sake of argument that those two buying accounts are friends or “relatives” (a possible explanation for the old Snowinjune avatar that looks just like you, and the similar Tess names). Since they are so new to Etsy (especially the TessaF1993 account), seems they would have needed to be ‘trained’ by you in the methods of treasury-making: who & what to choose…which is still pretty underhanded.
    And if you don’t think you’re doing anything wrong…then why, in your list of things to do to be in more treasuries, haven’t you ever suggested having friends sign up to do just that?

  12. Forum Hag September 16, 2010 at 11:53 am #

    Hey Broken-

    If it were all so innocent and you simply didn’t care about making the FP, why didn’t you just feature items from the shop which was curating the treasury?

    Why deliberately use alternate seller accounts?

    Could it have been to make it seem as if the curator wasn’t included to the casual observer or FP admin?

  13. Disgusted September 16, 2010 at 11:55 am #

    three fairly duplicate shops. no originality. looks like kindergardeners were set loose in a clothes hamper with scissors and glue. yup! just the place i want to buy HANDMADE from. pay no attention to the (wo)man behind the curtain!

  14. losinghope September 16, 2010 at 11:58 am #

    All three shops have the same white picket fence in their photos. And, the models in the photos are posed the same. The clothing is very similar. Very strange…

  15. detroit September 16, 2010 at 12:02 pm #

    I like how in the threads, the cupcakes gleefully assert that the ‘fun’ of making treasuries is to find ‘cool’ stuff, and promote other people. Like it’s almost a charitable thing they’re doing out of the goodness of their frosted-with-sparkles hearts. And to ad an item of your own would be tacky.

    When, in reality, they are making treasuries to promote people who they bank on returning the favor. Plain and simple.

    Thus, in fact, making treasuries is, on the whole, a bald self-promotion tool. Just, someone else who you’ve ‘paid’ in treasury features is doing the promotion for you.

    And, as usual, Etsy is responsible for creating this mess with the way they select items for the front page. And the ‘structure’ they’ve got in place.

    And I agree, I peeked at the three shops. They’re nearly identical. It’s not like one is cast jewelry, another is knit scarves, and the third is vintage furnishings.

    Why would someone have three shops so very similar? My first guess would be to play the treasury system.
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    Call Out Grll Says:
    September 16, 2010 at 11:40 am

    Sheesh. That’s a helluva lotta trouble to go to for 164 measly sales from 3 shops in nearly 2 years.
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    Tee hee!

  16. Small amount of disease September 16, 2010 at 12:03 pm #

    Yeah, and next time you give out advice on how to get on the FP you should mention putting all your own shops in your treasuries- cause hey, obviously admin is checking that closely.

    Thanks again Etsy admin for yet another stellar performance!

  17. Back Again September 16, 2010 at 12:09 pm #

    Forum Hag Says:

    Hey Broken-

    If it were all so innocent and you simply didn’t care about making the FP, why didn’t you just feature items from the shop which was curating the treasury? Why deliberately use alternate seller accounts?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Another EXCELLENT question.

  18. adoringhag September 16, 2010 at 12:24 pm #

    brokenghost has played the innocent bystander that gets broadsided by the forum hags one too many times or maybe it’s her stupidity or arrogance that keeps her thinking that absolutely no one knows what the fuck they are talking about? dangerous combination, not to mention her verbal threats to other hags.

  19. RocksInMySocks September 16, 2010 at 12:45 pm #

    Gee whiz, brokenghost, why in the world did you delete all the treasuries under your brokenghostcouture username in treasury east? If you’re so innocent, why try and hide the evidence? They were there just this morning. I saw them with my own eyes.

  20. me September 16, 2010 at 12:49 pm #

    The photos are taken in the same location, and are of the same type of clothing. If they are not the same seller, they are very close sellers who share a design aesthetic, supplies, and photo background. (and treasuries….)

    I think brokenghost makes nice things, I just think she’s missed the boat in that Etsians, esp. forum goers, are not fond of any sort of deception.

  21. Forum Hag September 16, 2010 at 12:54 pm #

    The other shops are her accounts. She has them disclosed. It’s the ‘buyer’ accounts one can’t be sure of.

    But even so, why feature your other accounts in treasuries? At least if you’re going to include yourself, use the shop which is doing the curating. That way it keeps away any implication of deception.

    As it stands this way… BUSTED!

  22. RocksInMySocks September 16, 2010 at 12:54 pm #

    Uh yeah, it looks like you deleted treasuries made by myfairmaiden and rattymess, I mean tattytess, too. You’re about as innocent as a boa constrictor.

    Call Out Grll Says:
    September 16, 2010 at 11:40 am
    Sheesh. That’s a helluva lotta trouble to go to for 164 measly sales from 3 shops in nearly 2 years.
    ””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
    Wonder what she’d have if she hadn’t cheated her way to the fp so many times. My granny always said you reap what you sow. In this case, you reap what you SEW.

  23. Inspector Yuk September 16, 2010 at 12:55 pm #

    The whole idea of making a rule that says you can include one of your items but it will be removed if it makes the front page is ludicrous. This just begs for people to find ways around it in hopes of making the front page. Why? if they sanctioned letting you put one of your items in and leaving it even if it makes the front page there would be no need for all the deception. Where is the harm? If the treasury is front page worthy with the curators item in there, why not just let it stand?

    Not that people wouldn’t try and game that system as well, but I think if they had started out allowing one item it would never have reached this point.
    I’ve never minded when a curator puts one of their items in their treasury, and I’ve never told anyone on the forums that it’s icky or in bad taste like so many others have been brainwashed to believe.

    I despise what Etsy has turned otherwise nice people into, deceiving, conniving grabbers who will do just about anything for a sale.

  24. so transparent September 16, 2010 at 1:30 pm #

    brokenghostcouture is an offensive, ridiculous, obtuse, mean spirited, annoying bitch.

    Thanks for the awesome call out.

    It explains soooooo much.

  25. me September 16, 2010 at 1:37 pm #

    I’m okay with someone featuring one of their own items too, and I’m okay with that item being on the FP. It’s the deception no one likes.

  26. adoringhag September 16, 2010 at 1:49 pm #

    I despise what Etsy has turned otherwise nice people into, deceiving, conniving grabbers who will do just about anything for a sale.

    _______

    I believe the character defects were already in place, well before anyone found Etsy..

  27. hagwithmorals September 16, 2010 at 1:50 pm #

    Well, this has been a long time coming! I have to say that reading this callout has pretty much made my day. If anyone thinks she’s a nice person you can read where she threatens another seller in the forums today. I think it starts around here.
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6627595&page=29

    It’s funny that she deleted the treasuries made with all three of her disclosed accounts as soon as this was posted.

  28. Life During Wartime September 16, 2010 at 1:55 pm #

    Etsy has rules, but they do nothing to close loopholes and there are no consequences for rule breakers. I never understood why a curator cannot include an item in their treasury. At least it would be out in the open then that treasuries are being used for self-promotion. I mean, what is a ‘treasury team’ for if not mutual promotion? Certainly not about sharing your pleasure after discovering the work of total strangers whose items are unique….and don’t cater to the phoney baloney Etsy trends.

  29. Whatever September 16, 2010 at 2:01 pm #

    Broken, I am always willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt, but this has me confused. I’m sorry, I don’t understand:

    brokenghostcouture Says:
    September 16, 2010 at 10:56 am
    wow. simply. wow.
    Snowinjune and TessaF1993 are NOT my accounts.

    But:

    MyFairMaiden’s Shop Announcement
    More great clothing can be found in my 2 other etsy shops at:
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/TattyTess
    and
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/Brokenghostcouture

    I’m confused.

  30. Whatever September 16, 2010 at 2:06 pm #

    oh sorry, I got confused over all the shop ID names being tossed around.

    never mind, carry on, carry on.

  31. bestcalloutever September 16, 2010 at 2:58 pm #

    Gimme a break brokenghost!. You just got called out and owned. I hope the treasury teams exclude you and your multiple personalities immediately for your shitty high horse behavior. Serves you right.

  32. Hag-a-saurusRex September 16, 2010 at 3:08 pm #

    Bwaaahaahahahaaa! Completely and totally busted. That’s some sick shit Ghostface. You need serious help.

  33. Forum Hag September 16, 2010 at 3:12 pm #

    I think we can all be generous on this one point though- broken kept telling us all we just weren’t working hard enough. We needed to work harder and then we’d reap the reward of regular FP features!

    I think we can all agree that running three shops and two fake buyer accounts and making treasuries between all of them is working pretty damn hard.

    Well done broken!

  34. hagwithmorals September 16, 2010 at 3:16 pm #

    brokenghostcouture Says:
    September 16, 2010 at 10:56 am
    Have any of my treasuries made it to FP with my own item in it? Once, before T-east in April 2008 which seems to be enough to have forum hags kicking me in the face for it. Despicable behavior.
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    April 8, 2010 was the date. The link for it is included in the original post here in case you missed it. Despicable behavior is right only it’s not coming from the “forum hags”.

    You’re so desperate to appear on the FP that you create treasuries out the ass and always feature an item from one of your other shops. When you didn’t have much luck sneaking those past admin, you made alternative accounts so you could always feature one of your 3 shops and not have to worry about the rules in place against self-promotion.

    Did you think other sellers were so ignorant that nobody would notice what you were doing? To go into the forums and try to browbeat and intimidate other sellers who are sick of this sort of cheating was a big mistake. You drew attention to yourself and now you’ve been exposed. Rightfully so. I think you’re a major attention whore who thinks WAY too highly of herself and her “talent”. Trying to deny it now only makes what you’ve done even more despicable. Good luck in the future.

  35. hagwithmorals September 16, 2010 at 3:19 pm #

    digging all the “hag” names LOL!

  36. Forum Hag September 16, 2010 at 3:27 pm #

    hagwithmorals Says:
    September 16, 2010 at 3:19 pm
    digging all the “hag” names LOL!

    ____________

    We hags have to stick together.

  37. Hag-a-saurus Rex September 16, 2010 at 3:32 pm #

    hagwithmorals Says:
    September 16, 2010 at 3:19 pm
    digging all the “hag” names LOL!

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    We hags have to stick together.

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    *RAWR*

  38. Forum Hag September 16, 2010 at 3:39 pm #

    Oh my gosh- has the small amount of disease on the Etsy forum spread over here?

  39. Hag-a-saurus Rex September 16, 2010 at 4:02 pm #

    *coughing disease in ghost’s direction*

  40. bestcalloutever September 16, 2010 at 4:32 pm #

    Wit a minute.
    Isn’t brokenghost the same gal that threw a hissy fit in the forums wanting credit for “discovering” some etsy flaw back during the great brick wall/google caffeine episode in march/april/may

    Pretty much demanding people thank her after she just pointed out what had already been said a hundred times.

    Oh and that was after she shouted through the forums that everyone needed to add “handmade” to their listings. And tried AGAIN to point out how she was right and everyone else was wrong because her views were up. Not smart enough to figure out that they were up because she was showing her hiney in tons of threads.

    Seems to be a pattern, here.

  41. detroit September 16, 2010 at 4:46 pm #

    Normally I hate to snark on people’s ‘art’. Just their shitty behavior. But, since brokenghost has shown herself to be so disingenuous, criticize, I will.

    LOL – I thought these lines from a review of her Broken Ghost ‘fashion show’ were hilarious:

    “The idea behind sustainable design and eco-fashion is inspiring, especially in this day and age. Unfortunately in the mainstream, this concept is often construed as unsightly and not high fashion or “couture” per se. This collection was a little rough around the edges and added to this misdirected notion of eco-fashion.

    The clothing itself seemed unfinished and a little frumpy at times, with bunchy seams and an over-the-top mix of fabric that sometimes didn’t seem to fit.”
    ____________________________________

    But, but, I thought she was on the FP all the time because her product was SO much better than everyone else’s???

  42. hagwithmorals September 16, 2010 at 4:59 pm #

    I thought she was on the Fp all the time because her pictures were SO freaking outstanding. Looks to me like we were both wrong. haha

  43. Hag-a-saurus Rex September 16, 2010 at 5:09 pm #

    detroit Says:
    September 16, 2010 at 4:46 pm
    Normally I hate to snark on people’s ‘art’. Just their shitty behavior. But, since brokenghost has shown herself to be so disingenuous, criticize, I will.

    LOL – I thought these lines from a review of her Broken Ghost ‘fashion show’ were hilarious:

    “The idea behind sustainable design and eco-fashion is inspiring, especially in this day and age. Unfortunately in the mainstream, this concept is often construed as unsightly and not high fashion or “couture” per se. This collection was a little rough around the edges and added to this misdirected notion of eco-fashion.

    The clothing itself seemed unfinished and a little frumpy at times, with bunchy seams and an over-the-top mix of fabric that sometimes didn’t seem to fit.”
    ____________________________________

    But, but, I thought she was on the FP all the time because her product was SO much better than everyone else’s???
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    She should rename it “BrokenDudsCouture”

  44. OPP Yeah you know me September 16, 2010 at 5:51 pm #

    So the irony in the closing of that thread, my thread, is that when I mentioned the idea of a second shop featuring itself I really was speaking hypothetically. (I mean, I’ve seen it done before but can’t recall who it was. It’s been done by others, not just BGC.) I think maybe BGC thought she was about to be called out in that thread and asked admin to close it.

    So when I saw my thread closed for calling out I thought WTF and just took one guess by looking at BGC’s treasuries and noticed the pattern. So the irony is BGC and Rob did the calling out in that thread. I was clueless before then.

    And I would like to see the idea of featuring one of your own items reevaluated in the yearly TOU revisions. It seems like there are a lot more on this blog that agree than those that wrote on the forum.

    OT- I’m laughing a bit that this is the closest I’ve come to be on the ECO blog. 🙂

  45. tippy September 16, 2010 at 5:59 pm #

    The secret to having a shop featured on the FP:
    -Take already-made shitty clothes that no one wants and blanket-stitch them onto more shitty already-made clothes that no one wants.
    -Make sure patterns are opposite and colors are contrasting so that nothing matches.
    -Create 20 accounts and feature at least 1 of your other secret accounts in 50 treasuries that you created from each account.
    -Refuse to learn how to make a pattern from scratch, how to use a sewing machine and how to play by the rules.

    Genius. Pure genius.

  46. Yet another hag September 16, 2010 at 6:06 pm #

    Funny that that I no longer see any treasuries made by the trio of the ghost’s shops.

    Why delete them if you are only having fun promoting other shops? Why delete them if you are just being a smart business woman? Why delete them if they were just showcasing the cream of the crop?

  47. Hagney September 16, 2010 at 6:15 pm #

    Yet another hag Says:
    September 16, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    Funny that that I no longer see any treasuries made by the trio of the ghost’s shops.

    Why delete them if you are only having fun promoting other shops? Why delete them if you are just being a smart business woman? Why delete them if they were just showcasing the cream of the crop?

    _____________________________________

    That’s a very good observation.

  48. hagwithmorals September 16, 2010 at 6:25 pm #

    She got rid of them as soon as this callout was posted. All that hard work down the drain. Buh-bye FP!

  49. Hag-a-saurus Rex September 16, 2010 at 6:42 pm #

    hagwithmorals Says:
    September 16, 2010 at 6:25 pm
    She got rid of them as soon as this callout was posted. All that hard work down the drain. Buh-bye FP!
    ————————–

    *SMIRK* 😀

  50. Forum Hag September 16, 2010 at 8:09 pm #

    bestcalloutever Says:
    September 16, 2010 at 4:32 pm
    Wit a minute.
    Isn’t brokenghost the same gal that threw a hissy fit in the forums wanting credit for “discovering” some etsy flaw back during the great brick wall/google caffeine episode in march/april/may

    Pretty much demanding people thank her after she just pointed out what had already been said a hundred times.

    Oh and that was after she shouted through the forums that everyone needed to add “handmade” to their listings. And tried AGAIN to point out how she was right and everyone else was wrong because her views were up. Not smart enough to figure out that they were up because she was showing her hiney in tons of threads.

    Seems to be a pattern, here.

    ______________

    Yup. I remember that. Oh gosh, memories… like the corners of my mind.

    Misty, water colored memories, of your forum bullshit.

  51. Twisted Memory September 16, 2010 at 8:40 pm #

    Uh I’d like to take a stroll back to december 2009ish… when brokenwhore… started a promo thread about sales… and when SEVERAL helpful etsians, told told this chick to create clothes in sizes medium and large and she was like right so i should create clothes for fat people… left a bad taste in my mouth. This is one vile snake and she deserves the wailing shes getting.

  52. adoringhag September 16, 2010 at 8:50 pm #

    lol BreakingGasCulture

  53. uh-huh September 16, 2010 at 8:53 pm #

    My my my, how interesting. I’ve wondered what was up with her foaming at the mouth in every FP thread. There’s often something deeper when somebody is so frothy about a topic….. her posts are abrasive enough to have kept me from even spending my time looking at her shop.

  54. GiveMeABREAK September 16, 2010 at 9:00 pm #

    Busted ..OOOOOOOh so busted. ..Brokendown You dug your own grave. I also have a very lonnnnnnnnnnnnng memory..You can NOT be that stupid!

    Karma is a bitch..

  55. eyefortineye September 16, 2010 at 9:03 pm #

    loling all over the place – you guys are hysterical today!

    I love youse hags! *\

    “breakinggasculture” ahhhhaaaaaaahahahahahA!

  56. lulu September 16, 2010 at 10:11 pm #

    You know- about 90% of the time I agree with the majority of the people here and the call outs… But, I don’t blame BGC for doing what she has done.
    Etsy has turned into a cesspool of shite in the last two years…
    Look at the treasury cliques… Groups of people who get together to promote and make treasuries of items ONLY from their group, join one group of 12 and say each day everyone has to make 1 treasury including one item from each seller. Join a couple and shazaam… those people end up on the front page DAY after DAY…
    So BGC making a few measly treasuries under sock puppets really isn’t a big deal…
    I get it. She played the friggin game that ETSY has created. I don’t have the time or patience to play etsy’s bullshite treasury games, In fact I quit looking at the FP

    HOWEVER, She does have to disclose ther other two shops, which I don’t understand why she doesn’t and I also don’t understand why all 3 shops full of all similar items. That’s a big no-no.
    AND I have a feeling she would do better not to speak in the forums – she just pisses people off. And I know her stuff may not be my style, but at least she is making them- and they are deconstructed and reconstructed – meaning they are handmade. (c’mon there are people that put a charm on a string and call it a handmade necklace – give the woman a break)

    I am not very forgiving about her snide remark about “fat” people- that makes me not like her, but I still have to say, she is just unfortunate that she got busted with her sock puppet treasuries… BUT there are SO MANY others out there that are just a little more clever about doing the same and they have their treasury clubs/groups or whatever they call them… those people really suck.

    Give BGC a little break here- if Etsy weren’t so effing stupid these days, I am sure BGC wouldn’t be making treasuries featuring herself.

  57. Life During Wartime September 16, 2010 at 10:53 pm #

    I just looked in detail at brokenghostcouture, and there a bunch of different sizes represented there. It looks like she learned something from that forum discussion about extending her size range. And I have to respect that.

    And I also lay almost all the blame on Etsy for the situation with the FP. Etsy should have limited Teams to groups for local promoting, for promoting a certain kind of art, craft, vintage or supply, and for promoting aesthetic movements and styles. The concept of teams about lactation, religious beliefs/lack of same, what you do in your day job, etc etc is bogus.

    The treasury cartel teams are really nothing but a source of community friction. People are going to get together to work a system. That’s human nature. But WTF is wrong with Etsy that they are sponsoring this crap?

    Seriously, if I read one more forum post or Dorque article about how shops should tag to be found by treasury curators I swear I will yak, put it in a baggie and mail it to Brooklyn. No wonder I’ve pretty much given up on shopping Etsy because it’s so hard to find anything described as what it actually is any more!

  58. Pissed Off September 17, 2010 at 3:36 am #

    This shop has never read the TOU.
    Handmade jewelry is listed as vitage every single day.
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/FreshyFig

  59. hagwithmorals September 17, 2010 at 4:22 am #

    lulu Says:
    September 16, 2010 at 10:11 pm
    You know- about 90% of the time I agree with the majority of the people here and the call outs… But, I don’t blame BGC for doing what she has done.
    Etsy has turned into a cesspool of shite in the last two years…
    Look at the treasury cliques… Groups of people who get together to promote and make treasuries of items ONLY from their group, join one group of 12 and say each day everyone has to make 1 treasury including one item from each seller. Join a couple and shazaam… those people end up on the front page DAY after DAY…
    So BGC making a few measly treasuries under sock puppets really isn’t a big deal…
    I get it. She played the friggin game that ETSY has created. I don’t have the time or patience to play etsy’s bullshite treasury games, In fact I quit looking at the FP

    HOWEVER, She does have to disclose ther other two shops, which I don’t understand why she doesn’t and I also don’t understand why all 3 shops full of all similar items. That’s a big no-no.
    AND I have a feeling she would do better not to speak in the forums – she just pisses people off. And I know her stuff may not be my style, but at least she is making them- and they are deconstructed and reconstructed – meaning they are handmade. (c’mon there are people that put a charm on a string and call it a handmade necklace – give the woman a break)

    I am not very forgiving about her snide remark about “fat” people- that makes me not like her, but I still have to say, she is just unfortunate that she got busted with her sock puppet treasuries… BUT there are SO MANY others out there that are just a little more clever about doing the same and they have their treasury clubs/groups or whatever they call them… those people really suck.

    Give BGC a little break here- if Etsy weren’t so effing stupid these days, I am sure BGC wouldn’t be making treasuries featuring herself.

    ””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
    I blame her because no one forced her to do it. Why should anyone give her a break? The majority of the sellers on Etsy aren’t lying, cheating, scheming witches. Etsy itself however, is a cesspool. They have put into effect a system that make these kinds of violations possible and the lower crust of humanity will always take advantage of the loopholes.

    Brokenghostcouture wasn’t on the fp every day but she cheated her way there NUMEROUS times and she lambasted anyone who dared to criticize the daily repeats. Why? She’s a daily repeat wannabe and was adamant about keeping the system in her favor.

    The whole treasury team thing is another example of working etsy’s system. The only difference is undisclosed accounts aren’t necessary to reap the benefits. In fact, the abuse of the system by treasury teams would make another enlightening read for this blog if anyone cares to tackle that can of worms.

    Brokenghostcouture violated the TOU in a big way and then rubbed our faces in the nasty piles of shit she deposited all over the forums. Using undisclosed accounts to promote your shop or shops is wrong, plain and simple.

    When you knowingly and willingly violate the rules and are rewarded with fp features at the expense of hardworking sellers who stay in compliance and never get featured, you better hang on to your ass. When you post venomous shit in forum thread after forum thread attacking and harrassing those very same sellers who dare to speak out about the fp abuse, you can kiss your ass GOODBYE.

  60. adoringhag September 17, 2010 at 4:36 am #

    It is Etsy mess, it’s their creation.

    If BGC was quietly promoting herself through at least five accounts and wasn’t in the forums telling people to work harder, take better photos blathering on about working so hard to get into treasuries in such an arrogant condescending way, then finding out about all that she’s done to “promote” herself?

    People wouldn’t be on this blog calling her out.

  61. kitten September 17, 2010 at 5:04 am #

    I beg to differ on the give her a break. I want to be on the front page too, but I would never do what Brokenghostcouture did. It’s dishonest and cheating.

    Don’t blame Etsy for making her do this, these flaws were in Brokenghostcouture’s moral character long before she joined Etsy.

    Thanks ECO and the person who took the time to expose Brokenghostcouture as the fraud she is. I hope this keeps her arrogant insulting ass out of the forums.

  62. sick of cupcakes September 17, 2010 at 5:07 am #

    Wow. So glad I have taken a hiatus from etsy.

    All I can really say is BGC should stick to mannequins.

  63. uh-huh September 17, 2010 at 5:42 am #

    I never realized that BGC and MFM were the same shop owner, should have done after reading both shops’ haughty and obnoxious posts in the forum.

  64. Back Again September 17, 2010 at 5:48 am #

    adoringhag Says:

    If BGC was quietly promoting herself through at least five accounts and wasn’t in the forums telling people to work harder, take better photos blathering on about working so hard to get into treasuries in such an arrogant condescending way, then finding out about all that she’s done to “promote” herself?

    People wouldn’t be on this blog calling her out.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    That’s exactly the way I feel. She acted like anyone who wasn’t on the FP must not be doing enough to deserve it…meanwhile she was actively giving herself a dishonest advantage over those who DO follow the rules.

    Esty shares the blame for allowing the flawed system to be ‘played’, but SHE ALONE took it upon herself to play the self-righteous finger-wagger at anyone who questioned that system.

  65. girl in the corner September 17, 2010 at 6:11 am #

    Can someone link to the forum comments about her clothing sizes and her saying words to the effect of ‘don’t wanna sew for fat women”? I can’t find it. Thanks.

  66. hagwithmorals September 17, 2010 at 6:11 am #

    I’d like to extend an invitation to brokenghostcouture’s “friends”, snowinjune and tessaf1993, to visit this blog and explain why they joined etsy for the sole purpose of making treasuries with items from her shop. Come on brokenghost, you said you knew them. If they think you’re so fabulous that they’d waste their time creating treasuries for you then surely they’d be showing up here to defend your sorry ass.

    I’m also interested in having them explain why her photos are so special that they’re fp worthy. Personally, I find them shiteous and can think of hundreds of clothing makers with far better photos.

  67. Hag-a-saurus Rex September 17, 2010 at 6:26 am #

    Yes it’s true this monster is Ety’s fault. They created it and they perpetuate it. It’s also true that there will always be those who look for ways to cheat whatever system they choose to but it still doesn’t make it right regardless of how shitty a system is.

    I won’t give anyone a break who is sneaky enough to do what she has done. Especially with the attitude she displayed in the forums. She is a mean spirited, deceptive individual. Folks, this is what karma looks like. I recommend that Ghostface does some serious soul searching but I doubt that she will.

    There are those of us who play by the rules, whether it’s on Etsy or in life in general. There are those who don’t. It’s the former that deserve the breaks and benefit of the doubt.

  68. Disgusted September 17, 2010 at 6:32 am #

    Don’t worry about brokengasghost. She will eventually reappear in some other form in the forums or elsewhere with more bull$hit.

  69. Forum Hag September 17, 2010 at 7:26 am #

    Sorry, but blaming Etsy for broken being a cheat is like blaming McDonald’s for someone being chubby.

  70. Yet another hag September 17, 2010 at 8:24 am #

    So SnowInJune registered on Etsy on May 30, 2010?

    Thats about six weeks after this:
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6494304&page=3

    I wonder where and why unfairmaiden got the idea for the sock puppet account?

  71. so transparent September 17, 2010 at 8:28 am #

    This is priceless!

  72. Yet another hag September 17, 2010 at 8:49 am #

    So SnowInJune registered on Etsy on May 30, 2010?

    Thats about six weeks after this:
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6494304&page=3

    I wonder where and why unfairmaiden got the idea for the sock puppet account?
    ——————
    And tattytess was opened 3 days after that post.

  73. anon September 17, 2010 at 9:06 am #

    Sorry to go off topic, but I just took a quick look at the new featured seller and I can’t comment on it at Etsy because it would just get shut down for calling out.

    Apparently American Greetings’ Care Bear trademark/copyright doesn’t extend to England?

    Another great job by Etsy’s admin. Really guys, yeah, you don’t know if she has the legal right to reproduce and use the trademarked name, and you can’t remove stuff unless asked by the copyright/trademark holder, but you shouldn’t be choosing this stuff for the front page.

    Oh and really, who believes that American Greetings would give the rights to a woman making costumes for adults.

  74. girl in the corner September 17, 2010 at 9:16 am #

    Which acct did she use to make the fattie comment? I would really like to see this, thanks.

  75. Twisted Memory September 17, 2010 at 9:45 am #

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6395757

  76. VERY haggy girl in the corner September 17, 2010 at 10:13 am #

    Thank you for that, TM.

  77. Disgusted September 17, 2010 at 10:15 am #

    Etsy doesn’t give a shit about copyrights, trademarks, legal mumbo jumbo. They feature all sorts of crap in the finds DAILY that is in some sort of violation. We could forgive them if they messed up SOMETIMES but its clear they want to let the staff run wild with no guidance or ethics at all.
    Artists and creatives have a right to not have their items used by others. For Etsy to promote itself as a site for handmade/artists etc. is just another slap in the face to everyone.

  78. Whatever September 17, 2010 at 11:01 am #

    Okay, so I read that thread of the fat comment. Sorry, just don’t see it. I see where posters took offense and exaggerated her replies. Sensitive maybe? Many were already annoyed beforehand calling self-promotion and sale begging. So when the topic of size came up, it was one more thing to push people over the edge. I’m really overweight, and super sensitive to any discussion about sizes, and I didn’t read her posts as offensive.
    She never once said ‘fat’, ‘fatty’, or anything similar. She did say “items in my shop are size medium to large. I am trying to add more larger sizes, but I don’t do plus sizes.” [as well as] “but there are many in size medium and 23 items in size large. Just because they LOOK small in the pic, doesn’t mean they are.” [and] “Advice given was that my clothing looked small. What can I do to change that?”
    I think what posters were upset about is this comment she made: “making some VERY large clothes”.

    I read it as the other posters kept saying over and over that her clothes were too ‘small’, she kept saying that she offers medium and large and was confused as to what more she could do, especially as she had already said that she does not make Plus size clothes (which not every seller on Etsy does). Notice she used the PC terminology of ‘plus size’ first.
    My impression from reading that thread was that out of frustration she used the word ‘VERY’ as in ‘Very large clothes’, because so many kept saying her clothes were Very Small. I’m not saying it was kosher of her to word it that way, yet in reading the whole context around the discussion, and not just one single post, it really does not seem that she meant it in the way so many are wanting to take it. Who of us has not said something we wish we had worded differently?

  79. ScrapMetal September 17, 2010 at 11:14 am #

    I think Etsy admins (and other etsians) are going a little over the top over the treasury rules. Yeah, you shouldn’t use the treasury as total self promo, but having one item in a treasury that’s yours I think is OK. Over on ArtFire one can make treasuries solely based on your items if you’d like. Of course, the fee structure there is different, but when it really comes down to it, it’s just how the admins feel it ought to be, so the shop owners follow suit. Right now on ArtFire you pay $15.95 per month (promotion going on now to cap it at $5.95 if 20,000 current or future members sign up)to list as many items, no final value fee, so making treasuries that self promote is no biggie- I guess it’s considered part of that fee. The problem on etsy is not really about treasuries- that’s just the symptom. The problem is what EtsyCallOut has been proclaiming all along- that certain rules at etsy are routinely broken and consequences are given very rarely or to the wrong people. Other rules are ignored by admin (like reselling) so it all seems random and unfair.

  80. detroit September 17, 2010 at 12:21 pm #

    Haven’t read the entire thread – but, she certainly is annoying from the get-go – lol!

    The clothes are not my cuppa tea. And the unwarranted attitude CERTAINLY isn’t.

    And what she did went FAR beyond slipping an item of her own into a treasury. She was purposely deceitful – to the point of creating fake accounts. Regardless of the idiocracy at Etsy (their stupid, barely enforced rules) – what she did is very dishonest.

  81. toastycrackers September 17, 2010 at 12:23 pm #

    Haha, too funny. I came here just to see if anyone had posted about this. I noticed she was doing this before anyone even brought it up. Her photos and clothing from different shops are recognizable since they’re so similar to being with.. so it was easy to see without even trying.

  82. losinghope September 17, 2010 at 12:41 pm #

    On the FP right now is a curator that regularly uses certain shops in her treasury. And, those shops use her. What rule is being broken here? None, because there is none prohibiting using favorites. Fair, no bu,t not against the rules. Right?

  83. losinghope September 17, 2010 at 12:55 pm #

    The more I find out about that damn front page, the more depressed I get. GEtting on the FP regularly has to impact those shops bottom line tremendously. That’s why all this is happening. There HAS to be a way to control those who manipulate it.

  84. toastycrackers September 17, 2010 at 1:08 pm #

    losinghope, yeah that seller is on their so often it’s very worthy of an eye roll or two.. or three.

    But being on a team, or even putting one’s friends in treasuries, with the knowledge the favor will be returned, is not as sneaky and underhanded as creating accounts specifically to get around the lax “rule” of a curator’s own item ending up on the FP.

    It’s not as if the treasury teams create fake accounts to do this. It’s out in the open because it’s OK by the rules (whether it’s tacky and not in the spirit of Etsy is a separate issue).

  85. Inspector Yuk September 17, 2010 at 2:02 pm #

    I agree with Whatever, I didn’t really get any attitude or demeaning of larger-sized people from her at all. Seems more like a case of not liking what someone says or does and then coloring all their posts and actions as offensive. I’ve seen this with a few people, The minute they post something ‘the gang’ is in there tearing everything they say apart. Actually, compared to stuff I’ve seen her post more recently, this is very mild and non-attitudey.

    And while treasury teams may be Etsy legal and open and above-board in terms of deceptions like are carried out by BrokenGhost, I really feel it’s exploiting the team concept. But then, I’m an oldie on Etsy who also feels that the handmade concept has been bastardized by them and they have strayed way off the initial vision path. I barely recognize the Etsy today from the one I signed up on nearly 5 years ago. And I don’t mean wider pages or useless shinies. I mean the heart and soul of Etsy is gone.

  86. sick of cupcakes September 17, 2010 at 2:12 pm #

    I agree with your whole post, Yuk.

  87. Twisted Memory September 17, 2010 at 2:29 pm #

    See It wasnt’ the words it was the condescending attitude. And she’s been laying it on pretty thickly lately, and i love the fact that she thinks that her measly what 12 FP features makes her a FP regular? That’s like insanity and delusions of grandeur.
    She knew full well she was cheating. The whole treasury system is fucked. It should be renamed Cheatepalooza. Etsy’s inability to enforce rules or make any are corrupting the very fabric of the site.
    But you have to hand it to her. In her recent etsy history she’s been playing the game. I mean Etsy tells you to work the forum, Check. Etsy tells you to work the treasury, Check. Be an AHOLE, Check. I’d say she’ll be Featured Seller by January. 🙂

  88. noCigar September 17, 2010 at 3:13 pm #

    It’s not vintage if it’s a REPRODUCTION. No excuses for this kind of thing.
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/fadedrosevintage?ref=seller_info

  89. ScrapMetal September 17, 2010 at 3:36 pm #

    Let’s face it the whole FP issue is ridiculous and overblown. A new forum thread everyday. Someone complaining, someone jealous, someone wishful, someone bitchy. The FP is a photo essay and speaks nothing about whether the items are truly handmade or vintage. I’m sure one could photograph s**t off-center, in a dreamy, ethereal way, complete with blurry background in a requisite etsy-approved hue and it would land on the FP. The problem is that someone would click to buy it if it’s on the FP and that fact is what makes etsians wring their hands in misery. “If only I could get on the front page! Then all my troubles will be over! My shop will finally be recognized for its quality and people will flock.” If only it were that easy…

  90. kitten September 17, 2010 at 3:40 pm #

    noCigar Says:
    It’s not vintage if it’s a REPRODUCTION. No excuses for this kind of thing.
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/fadedrosevintage?ref=seller_info
    _________________________________________________________

    Are you talking about tags? I only checked the first 5 or so and skimmed – the first one is in the vintage category, but the rest in paper goods. Maybe the vintage was in error?? Or are you talking about something else?

  91. detroit September 17, 2010 at 3:46 pm #

    Mmmm – I disagree about the ‘size’ thread. She set the tone from the get-go. She was being purposely obtuse. And disrespectful / combative with people who were innocently trying to be genuinely helpful!

    She didn’t have to agree with people’s suggestions. But one can be grateful for the time and consideration they gave you – a perfect stranger. Instead she just shot everything down.

    And, come on. Some people were suggesting that her clothes looked small, and young – regardless of whether or not they were – because of the way she presented them. What was her response? ‘What should I do, make clothes that are baggy?’

    Like I said – purposefully obtuse. And, for larger people, women especially, who take a lot of shit in the beauty / fashion industry, the ‘baggy’ comment, among others, was rather insulting.

    I think after she was so rude to some people, naturally they got a little pissy. And snarky. She deserved it. Can’t imagine dealing with her IRL!

  92. Hagatha Christie September 17, 2010 at 4:01 pm #

    I don’t get the model used in her brokenghostcoture photos,,,,the model has a double chin and old lady arms. Like,,,,,,if she’s trying to sell to young girls, they don’t want to see a middle-aged woman modelling clothes that are supposed to be cool. I’m pretty young myself and it;s like looking at photos of my mom. I love my mom but dom’t want to wear clothes that she wears. Sorry if this is mean, I’m just saying what I see in her photos

  93. Cherry September 17, 2010 at 4:08 pm #

    Why do I go into the forums I think just to punish myself, some people are just so goddamn clueless http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6630338&page=1

  94. JohnCock September 17, 2010 at 4:20 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/LuCampisi

  95. sick of cupcakes September 17, 2010 at 4:26 pm #

    From the link Cherry posted:

    “They be role models, people! Every time I see them on the front page, I feel encouraged and inspired. What especially gives me the warm fuzzies is that their items are squished right there next to items from shops with only a scattering of sales. That rocks. ”

    Kiss my ass. Role models NOT!!!

  96. hagwithmorals September 17, 2010 at 4:32 pm #

    Here are a couple of her latest posts from threads about the fp regulars.
    Ah the irony . . .
    ”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
    Brokenghostcouture says:
    I’m certainly NOT a FP regular, but I still want to keep things in my favor! I want to know that the harder I work on creating stunning, interesting photos, the more I renew or bust my butt to add new items frequently….will help me make the FP. I’m not open to a system that doesn’t allow that.
    Posted at 9:50 am, September 16, 2010 ET – Report this post

    MyFairMaiden says:
    Why should admin be in charge of weeding out who hasn’t been on Fp and who is ‘too much’? Getting to the FP and often comes from a well laid out plan and hard work. These FP regulars you speak of have hugely stocked shops, add several new items daily and have fantastic, interesting photos. If this means they are in 1000’s of treasuries because of it, why should admin make sure they are not featured often? Seems to me that it’s up to us to make a difference….work on our photos, up the volume of product we produce, get involved in a treasury challenge.

    The amount of times a person ends up on FP is entirely by their own doing. We all have the same opportunity to get there.
    Posted at 10:27 am, September 13, 2010 ET – Report this post

  97. Lu September 17, 2010 at 4:35 pm #

    Why do I go into the forums I think just to punish myself, some people are just so goddamn clueless http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6630338&page=1
    —————————-

    This thread just scream like….I’m kissing asses in the hope to get picked in the treasury mafia!

  98. hagwithmorals September 17, 2010 at 4:35 pm #

    Hagatha Christie Says:
    September 17, 2010 at 4:01 pm
    I don’t get the model used in her brokenghostcoture photos,,,,the model has a double chin and old lady arms. Like,,,,,,if she’s trying to sell to young girls, they don’t want to see a middle-aged woman modelling clothes that are supposed to be cool. I’m pretty young myself and it;s like looking at photos of my mom. I love my mom but dom’t want to wear clothes that she wears. Sorry if this is mean, I’m just saying what I see in her photos

    ”””””””
    Hagatha Christie (best name ever) –
    That’s actually HER in most of the photos.

  99. noCigar September 17, 2010 at 4:49 pm #

    t’s not vintage if it’s a REPRODUCTION. No excuses for this kind of thing.
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/fadedrosevintage?ref=seller_info
    _________________________________________________________

    Are you talking about tags? I only checked the first 5 or so and skimmed – the first one is in the vintage category, but the rest in paper goods. Maybe the vintage was in error?? Or are you talking about something else?
    0000000000000000

    iT’S NOT vintage, it’s a cheap, recent repro.

  100. noCigar September 17, 2010 at 4:56 pm #

    JohnCock Says:
    September 17, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/LuCampisi

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/56517235/prada-faire-handbag-white
    Available at Neiman=Marcus. Nice. Shoplifter?

  101. Hagatha Christie September 17, 2010 at 5:22 pm #

    Ooops. lol I was thinking it was but didn’t want to cme out and say it. I reread what I said upthread and it sounds really mean, I;m sorry. I sound ageist. She may be a complete turd but that doesn’t mean I should make remarks about what she looks like.

  102. WhatThe? September 17, 2010 at 5:42 pm #

    Well, I don’t know what to say about the treasury cheating, shilling, and multiple accounts. That’s bad enough.

    But I will say that I am totally disappointed in the seller’s comments about “older women” and plus size clothing.

    I have about 5 items in two of her shops hearted hoping she could make them a little larger, I would’ve gladly paid for the alterations of course. I guess I will take my fat, old ass elsewhere for tops.

    Tess, you can watch your hearts go down right now. Your shameful behavior is beyond the pale.

  103. detroit September 17, 2010 at 6:01 pm #

    Love the ‘Hagatha Christie” name! lol.

    You know – when people were saying her shop looked young, and small….she could easily have said ‘You know, I have a range of sizes, so I didn’t see it that way. But, thanks for your perspective! I’ll take another look at my shop, and have a friend look too, with that in mind. I want everyone to feel welcome….”

    Blah, blah, blah…or some generic niceties like that…

    You know, I hate the cupcakes who yap about one’s image in the forums, BUT, I have to agree. In the Etsy context it’s ALL sales opportunities. (And a few learning opportunities) You never know who’s reading. And, well, I’m reading. And apparently others are too. And BrokenGhosts’s forum manners (or lack thereof) would totally turn me off from her store. Even if she was selling gold-plated gold for pennies!

  104. detroit September 17, 2010 at 6:09 pm #

    WhatThe? Says:
    September 17, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    I have about 5 items in two of her shops hearted hoping she could make them a little larger, I would’ve gladly paid for the alterations of course. I guess I will take my fat, old ass elsewhere for tops.
    ___________________________________________________

    WhaThe – take your fat old ass elsewhere girl!!! There are tons of Etsy shops who tailor for everyone, and would welcome you!!!

    Now that it’s New York fashion week, it’s perennially annoying to see what I’m ‘supposed’ to be wearing next season paraded around on emaciated teenagers!! HOW does that relate to 99.99 percent of the buying public???

    How do the clothes look on women? Not ‘real’ women, but WOMEN? Since nearly all the models are pre, or just pubescent GIRLS!!! Not women. but children!

    And why does this continue? It’s somehow believed to be supported with consumer dollars? And women and a lot of gay men make it happen season after season. WHAT is going on?

  105. sick of cupcakes September 17, 2010 at 6:25 pm #

    This is why my fat ass is always dressed like a boy, LOL. Levi’s and sweatshirts.

  106. Hagatha Christie September 17, 2010 at 6:54 pm #

    Thx guys, I’m into english whodunits. And hags 🙂

  107. Inspector Yuk September 17, 2010 at 8:29 pm #

    I don’t know, I’m old and fat and I didn’t take offense to any of her comments and I didn’t think she was condescending. I thought several people were baiting her and seemed to be put out by the fact that she didn’t jump on every suggestion made by them. I saw her responses as more of her reason for doing things the way she did. I didn’t get the impression she was not willing to change, but christ on a pogo-stick, how many times are we told to sift through all the advice given and use what resonates with us.

    If I asked for help and people told me to take my pictures on a white background instead of the blue one I currently use, I would probably explain why I use the blue background, to perhaps get you to see things from where I’m coming from. It doesn’t mean I’m resistant to change, or don’;t want to take the advice, but if I have a certain vision for my shop it takes time to consider suggestions offered that don’t fit that vision. It might mean you need to change your vision, or it may just not be one of the suggestions you decide to go with.

    This is much different from the threads I’ve read where every suggestion is met with an excuse as to why they can’t implement whatever it is that is suggested to them.

  108. me September 17, 2010 at 8:36 pm #

    That thread was not that bad; people are way too sensitive about things like that on Etsy.

  109. Akhenaten September 17, 2010 at 9:41 pm #

    The current Featured Seller is a copyright infringer. Making and selling Care Bear costumes. Wonder if she has permission from Kenner?

  110. Akhenaten September 17, 2010 at 9:41 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/storque/article/10129/?ref=fp_featured

  111. kitten September 17, 2010 at 10:42 pm #

    Regarding the Featured Seller — “Last summer, I made my first onesie as a birthday present for my fella.”

    Why would you make a onesie for a fella, a grown one at that? Is this some kind of fetish thing, that they’ve talked about on Regretsy?

  112. GiveMeABREAK September 18, 2010 at 12:39 am #

    One thing that I gleaned from that thread link…she made the statement..

    ” I just want someone to remember my name!!” Oh trust me sweetie we will remember you name…ALL OF THEM!

  113. anon September 18, 2010 at 4:37 am #

    I bet the Etsy person who chooses the featured seller thought, ‘Cool, a costume seller for the featured seller.’ When in actuality the interview and look of the items looks more like a plushie fetish and/or raver shop.

    I do think the ears hats are kind of cool for Halloween, but adult onesies? Um, not even for Halloween.

    According to the Wiki Entry, Care Bears is still owned by the Those Characters from Cleveland, a branch of American Greetings.

    Side note, she could get in trouble with Gerber too as they own a trademark on the name onesie unless you are using a Gerber brand onesie in your design and I doubt Gerber is making an adult size.

  114. detroit September 18, 2010 at 7:02 am #

    me Says:
    September 17, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    That thread was not that bad; people are way too sensitive about things like that on Etsy.
    ________________________________

    lol- that’s true. It’s just fun to pick at someone you’ve decided you don’t like. I just don’t like her tone (from what I’ve seen here). It’s abrasive! lol.

    Regarding the featured seller – I’m to the point where at least I’m happy they used someone who seems to make her own items!! Such a rarity these days.

    And, yes, adults wearing plushy animal costumes is a fetish. Haven’t you all heard of ‘furries’ (google em)? They have their own conventions. And there are people who are into the sexual aspect too. Having plushie sex parties. And yes – it’s creepy! lol. But if a fetish wasn’t creepy for some reason, then I guess it wouldn’t be a very alluring fetish then, would it?

    Okay – off to IM a hunky beagle I met the other week!!

  115. detroit September 18, 2010 at 7:05 am #

    AHH haa ha!

    I found a picture of a furry ‘dance’ from Anthrocon (lol):

    wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anthrocon2005dance.jpg

    I wonder if they play a lot of Snoop Dog?

  116. Life During Wartime September 18, 2010 at 9:54 am #

    OMG Furries! I heart to see a bunch of Furry Fetish stuff promoted on Etsy (tagged with all the inappropriate little animal and nature tags) by treasury addicts who don’t have a clue about Furry culture.

  117. tippy September 18, 2010 at 12:09 pm #

    I don’t think the furry maker means “onesie” as in a giant, baby outfit fit for a man. I believe she meant a “one-piece” costume like this:

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/52520241/hodgepodge-hedgehog-onesie-all-in-one

  118. stinkypants September 18, 2010 at 1:26 pm #

    BGC said – ” Well, now that I’ve chewed up and spit out…time to go sew and try out more photos. ”

    This proves that fat women have great taste in what we will swallow and what we wear. I don’t care if a shop makes size only for thin people, or only for fat people, but lose the sneer. Saying that she needs to make ” REALLY large sizes ” is a huge sneer and roll of the eyes. Adding that she needs to make baggy clothing for the REALLY large women, because, of course, anything over a size 14 would have to be a feedsack – just highlights that she doesn’t have the talent.

    It’s great and fine to make what you love and what you want to specialize in, but don’t tip your hand when given what you were not expecting to hear.

    Clown collars and doilies on an ill-fiting, cheapo tee = fashion foward? This fat woman asks that you don’t do us any favors.

  119. anon September 18, 2010 at 2:02 pm #

    My comment about the onesies and Gerber was not that she was making things for people with a ‘baby’ fetish but that the term ‘onesie’ is trademarked and can only be used if you are in fact talking about a Gerber Onesie.

  120. hagwithmorals September 18, 2010 at 2:14 pm #

    lol at stinkypants! yeah, her attitude is so nasty and condescending. I think the funniest part of the LARGE size thread (which wasn’t all that long ago, btw) was that it started out BEGGING someone to purchase something from her and she listed all the countless things she was doing to improve her sales , etc but NOTHING was working.

    Now that she’s figured out a way to cheat the system, she’s trying to pretend that all that hard work and her “stellar” (said with the utmost sarcasm) photos are what have helped her get to the FP.

    If the rest of us would just work hard (i.e. be as sneaky and conniving as she is), we could be there too and then we wouldn’t suck! What a a piece of work she is.

    She’s been posting in a lot of treasuries but has disappeared from the forums all of a sudden. I can’t imagine why. haha

  121. uh-huh September 18, 2010 at 6:17 pm #

    Considering the FP topics continue….. and she hasn’t poked her head in (that I’ve seen anyway)….. yeah looks like she got quiet

  122. sick of cupcakes September 19, 2010 at 4:58 am #

    Maybe she’s just busy talking to her many personalities.

  123. Whatever September 19, 2010 at 9:29 am #

    Thank you for proving my point: that people read just what they want to read, one single post and refuse to read the context surrounding that chosen post.
    She meant that she was chewed up, and indeed she was chewed up in that thread.

    And again, she was frustrated after explaining again and again and again and again that she does make size large, but that she does not make Plus Size, and don’t tell me that is because she lacks talent to make them – there are a great many clothes sellers on ETSY that also DO NOT, doesn’t mean they lack the talent to sew. She was using words that were first hurled at her and her shop, which incidentally reads to be the reason for her sneer, which was quite understandable. She sounded frustrated and posters kept baiting her. Interesting how many here seem to overlook the comments in that thread by other posters, the ones where they quickly jumped to assumptions and accusations, which of course others jumped on that bandwagon. It is pathetically obvious that once people have a fixed target in mind, they will more than willingly, and blindly, assign more blame and evils to that target when it fits their objective. No matter what BGC has done, there are quite a few that have lowered themselves by their bias.

  124. stinkypants September 19, 2010 at 11:15 am #

    That was magnificent.

    It was also a load. BGC started that thread with a stomping of her feet. Talking about clothing for fat women and saying crap about how baggy the clothing would of course have to be = a temper tantrum throwing snotbox. I don’t think SHE would have the talent. It is not the mere fact that she doesn’t make ‘ plus sizes ‘. If you have problems with someone who you think is attacking you, you DON’T attack them by sneering about the size clothing MANY women happen to wear. Capice? She is a tool.

  125. the doctor is in September 19, 2010 at 1:26 pm #

    Unstable, really unstable:

    http://www.etsy.com/treasury/4c966de19f986d91d5068654/nice?index=1

  126. Midnight September 19, 2010 at 1:29 pm #

    This crazy lady is throwing a hissy fit in the Treasury…

    http://www.etsy.com/treasury/4c966de19f986d91d5068654/nice

  127. Midnight September 19, 2010 at 1:33 pm #

    and it was deleted. I’m sure someone will come here and provide a SS.

  128. Andrea September 19, 2010 at 1:51 pm #

    ha ha she gets a serious Asshat award.

  129. Midnight September 19, 2010 at 2:02 pm #

  130. Hagatha Christie September 19, 2010 at 2:19 pm #

    If there was any doubt before as to whether or not she;s a professional, mature person I’d want to buy from, that treasury sealed the deal. What a baby. (sorry for the typos in my posts, my keyboard;s broken)

  131. OMG September 19, 2010 at 2:21 pm #

    She has come completely unhinged!

    lol

  132. uh-huh September 19, 2010 at 2:25 pm #

    Heh, as soon as I saw the thread in the forum speculating about a treasury I knew it had to be BGC. She has flipped her beanie.
    #122 seems personally invested in this.

  133. Inspector Yuk September 19, 2010 at 2:41 pm #

    Lol!!! That treasury is priceless! thanks for the screenshot. Man, if I were her, I’d crawl back under my rock and lay low for awhile instead of just drawing more attention to myself.

    I hope those that associate with her distance themselves or risk being assumed to either condone or be in collusion with her.

  134. Twisted Memory September 19, 2010 at 2:43 pm #

    Whoa What? Who associates with her? I’ve never seen her be friendly with anyone. I’ve seen her be a sycophant in the FP threads though. Its like she wants so bad to be BFFs with all the Frequent flyers who have basically ignored her. I really don’t think she has anywhere to go.

  135. Midnight September 19, 2010 at 2:59 pm #

    newest SS including her comment…

  136. Karma September 19, 2010 at 3:25 pm #

    Thanks for the SS. 🙂

  137. sick of cupcakes September 19, 2010 at 4:38 pm #

    Heehee! Beautiful!

  138. Knot September 19, 2010 at 4:40 pm #

    for the record, I think I have way worse photos she could have chosen. 🙂

  139. BackAgain September 19, 2010 at 4:45 pm #

    Holy crap!! Shouldn’t she be off licking her self-inflicted wounds somewhere?

  140. Forum Hag September 19, 2010 at 4:50 pm #

    Not learned anything, eh?

    http://www.etsy.com/treasury/4c9649f0e6f28eefc19d7e14/age-of-reckoning

  141. hagwithmorals September 19, 2010 at 5:42 pm #

    I hope someone has written a nice, long letter to admin detailing her threats, insults, and her abuse of the treasury system. She looks crazier and more desperate every day. Too bad she doesn’t have the guts to show up in the forums or back here to defend her insane behavior.

  142. hagwithmorals September 19, 2010 at 6:27 pm #

    @forumhag
    Good lord, she’s STILL USING THAT SOCK ACCOUNT TO MAKE TREASURIES FEATURING HER OWN SHOPS!!! This bitch is C.R.A.Z.Y!

  143. Forum Hag September 19, 2010 at 7:53 pm #

    Yup. Just checked the treasury again. Tessa must really love all of BGC’s shops. You know in the old treasury system a lot of this shit couldn’t happen like this.

  144. Trudy September 19, 2010 at 8:20 pm #

    OMG..I got 2 of my pieces in her treasury…I’M NOT WORTHY, I’M NOT WORTHY…..

  145. Sydney September 19, 2010 at 8:47 pm #

    I wish you could flag treasuries.. Someone should post a comment on the treasury to call her out.. if only my balls were bigger…

  146. hagwithmorals September 19, 2010 at 9:26 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/treasury/4c9642ef9f986d91bf617a54/a-home-for-humpty?index=0

    And another treasury from tessa featuring a “stunning” 😉 photo of an over 40 woman dressed in clothes that belong on someone MUCH
    younger (Heidi from the Swiss alps comes to mind). The fake picket fence leaning against the wall and those pretend clouds really add to the ambience. Stay classy, brokenghostcouture, myfairmaiden, tattytess!

  147. swoon September 20, 2010 at 1:17 am #

    I too was favoured twice in her treasury list. I feel immense pity for anyone so desperate to achieve beyond her own limitations that she is willing to stoop this deep into the gutter. Anything gained by underhand means isn’t really a gain at all. Realising goals while retaining respect for self and others has a worth far beyond hard cash.

  148. hagwithmorals September 20, 2010 at 2:57 am #

    Applause for swoon and her well-written post!!!

    It’s shame that it will probably go right over the head of the one it was intended for.

    Crash and burn, broken ghost.

  149. PussDaddy September 20, 2010 at 3:55 am #

    Well, I for one made treasuries for the fun of it and didn’t expect any favors in return. But then again that’s why I blogged about people and put Etsy mini’s of their stuff on my blog, too-for the fun of it, to promote them, and not because I needed or wanted anything in return. Ok, I did actually enjoy it as well.

  150. PussDaddy September 20, 2010 at 3:58 am #

    I don’t see what is so bad about allowing a person to put one of their own items in a treasury either. To me it seems fair if they make the FP and take other’s with them.

  151. PussDaddy September 20, 2010 at 4:10 am #

    P.S. For the record, I wear a size 10 and I know I have a fat ass-it’s the truth. I get so tired of this PC crap because we all know good and well if we have a fat ass or not. Usually the only thing really in question is whether or not it is your own fault your ass is fat, not whether or not it is fat.

  152. JohnCock September 20, 2010 at 4:12 am #

    What a needy loser.

  153. PussDaddy September 20, 2010 at 4:22 am #

    Why is it only the uppity minions posting in the treasury comments?

  154. PussDaddy September 20, 2010 at 4:25 am #

    I hear there was trouble in uppityminiondom. Anyone want to expound?

  155. ananemone September 20, 2010 at 5:43 am #

    can’t believe I missed that treasury. I didn’t even say terrible mean things to anyone! Guess I just have the wrong ideas…

  156. hagwithmorals September 20, 2010 at 6:43 am #

    ananemone,
    The ONLY person who’s said terrible, mean things during the FP discussions on the forums was brokenghost. The people she put in that treasury did nothing to her. She’s just pissed that she got busted here for cheating the system so, she decided to lash out at the people that have argued for a change in how the FP is chosen.

  157. ananemone September 20, 2010 at 6:55 am #

    (I know, I was being sarcastic. I think brokenghost interprets disagreement with a seller’s practices as saying terrible mean things).

  158. detroit September 20, 2010 at 7:24 pm #

    PD – I think a lot of people make treasuries for fun! Good for you for doing so! Especially buyers. That’s awesome. And – IMO – in the whole spirit of treasury making. It’s like your own art project – mixing and matching and trying to tease out a theme….(I’m a buyer only too).

    Unfortunately, when it comes to the FP, the whole treasury system has been abused (and Etsy is the co-dependent of the abusers). And there are most definitely a lot of repeat FPers who abuse the system to make treasuries with the sole purpose of more FP exposure for themselves.

    It cheapens the whole g-damn thing!

  159. PussDaddy September 22, 2010 at 11:44 pm #

    I never thought making treasuries so easy to get was a good idea.

  160. uh-huh September 24, 2010 at 7:04 am #

    She’s back from her little forum break
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6636299

  161. Hag-a-saurus Rex September 25, 2010 at 4:48 am #

    uh-huh Says:
    September 24, 2010 at 7:04 am
    She’s back from her little forum break
    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6636299
    __________

    Yeah and she forgot to tell the OP to get sock puppet accounts and make treasuries featuring herself in them.

  162. GottaSayUgh September 28, 2010 at 12:46 pm #

    I can’t tell you how excited I am to see this call-out. It warranted my first ECO forum post!

  163. Sydney September 29, 2010 at 7:11 pm #

    She’s still using those side accounts to put herself into treasuries.

    STILL.

  164. BackAgain October 16, 2010 at 9:10 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/treasury/4cb5336a05d28eefd35f381f/mocha-delight?index=0

    I so badly want to leave a comment on these treasuries underneath all the thank-yous from the sellers featured…

    “Awesome treasury! Thanks for adding an item from one of your undisclosed shops! Yay!”

  165. Forum Hag October 26, 2010 at 7:56 am #

    She’s in EtsyFinds today! Lovely!

  166. Hagosaur November 21, 2012 at 1:50 am #

    went to ART SCHOOL, got “A”s in photography, took a lot of courses and did very well in sculpture and fiber arts. (Professors begging me to change my specialty)

    and I’ve only been on the FP TWICE, and then back in the early days of Etsy, my work and photography have only improved over that time, but I’ve never been on the front page in the past 3 years, and my sales and views are down down down, no matter how much I promoted and advertised.

    Been featured in Craft Magazine, so I know my work and photography are not crap.

    Made treasuries of cool stuff on themes, been in hundreds of treasuries and that’s just the ones where someone put me in the treasury and then convoed to tell me.

    and it makes no difference at all.
    No longer mainly selling on Etsy, when I take my work to where it sells to people who are seeing it in person in a physical venue, it does well.

    but nope, not “good enough” for the FP.

  167. adoringhag November 21, 2012 at 10:46 am #

    lol. what took you so long to figure this one out? she’s been doing this for years.

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