you thought we wouldn’t notice: trulysanctuary

20 Sep

A nice little post about an Etsy shop on the “You thought we wouldn’t notice” blog-

http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/?p=6869

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123 Responses to “you thought we wouldn’t notice: trulysanctuary”

  1. The Unknown Etsian September 20, 2010 at 5:36 pm #

    Why does OhFaro get to advertise other sites on her banner?

  2. sick of cupcakes September 20, 2010 at 6:05 pm #

    That’s pretty on par with tons of other sellers.

  3. kitten September 20, 2010 at 6:10 pm #

    Does the link have anything to do with OhFaro? Am I missing something?

  4. The Unknown Etsian September 20, 2010 at 8:10 pm #

    No to your question kitten….just another question……

  5. Conny September 20, 2010 at 10:57 pm #

    Hi all ,May I be caller haha ? http://www.etsy.com/transaction/34638244
    http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=Stainless+Steel+Pill+Pendant
    PRICE VS : ETSY 19.50 USD EBAY Buy It Now 3.50 USD

  6. Laura September 21, 2010 at 6:33 am #

    On the front page right now: http://www.etsy.com/listing/56526081/lucy-navy-100-percent-natural-cotton?ref=fp_treasury_12

    This is a collective? This is the company:http://www.greenolastyle.com/t-FairTrade.aspx

    It’s based in Chicago, but the dresses come from Bolivia. Yes, nice idea and all but is this stuff allowed on Etsy?

  7. Laura September 21, 2010 at 6:35 am #

    If this type of shop is allowed on Etsy, why not Ten Thousand Villages?

  8. madmomma September 21, 2010 at 7:00 am #

    time to write to all these bands and people that are getting ripped off. I freaking HATE people that steal!

  9. madmomma September 21, 2010 at 7:03 am #

    I don’t think Greenola should be able to sell on Etsy. She’s not making the clothes. Frick, if Etsy allows that shop, that would mean that I could just start collecting clothes or goods from all over the freaking place and start a “boutique” of my finds on Etsy.
    Right?

  10. madmomma September 21, 2010 at 7:17 am #

    not only does Greenola not make her products- she provides a link to her off etsy site in her profile.
    http://www.Solidarityclothing.org

    flag, flag, flag…

  11. Laura September 21, 2010 at 8:23 am #

    Tempted to call out in forums…

  12. The Unknown Etsian September 21, 2010 at 8:40 am #

    Greenola needs to demand her money back from De Paul. They didn’t bother to teach her the basics of English grammar and spelling as witnessed by the use of capital letters in her profile.

  13. The Unknown Etsian September 21, 2010 at 8:42 am #

    And jumping back a few posts, why is this shop still on Etsy?
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/RuzDiamond

  14. Life During Wartime September 21, 2010 at 10:16 am #

    About Greenola: Etsy was not supposed to be about ‘helping people in a third world country’ but about stuff handmade by the individual artisan. Etsy Lied!

  15. The Unknown Etsian September 21, 2010 at 10:57 am #

    Etsy lied. Etsy is violating its own terms of use which, somehow, I thought was supposed to be some sort of legal, somewhat binding document. Wonder when the first lawsuit will hit?

  16. Inspector Yuk September 21, 2010 at 1:00 pm #

    Everything about that shop is nauseating. the profile, the materials, the stuffed ebay titles and the crappy merchandise. It’s tacky, tasteless and uninspired and I cannot believe how many people buy this stuff.

  17. Cat Power September 21, 2010 at 2:50 pm #

    InspectorYuk..my favorite saying is “There’s no accounting for people’s taste, or the lack of it!”

  18. Sarah (with an H) September 21, 2010 at 4:41 pm #

    Off topic, but SurrenderDorothy’s shop was vanished by Etsy, apparently with no advance notice. Two threads were closed in rapid succession by HeyMichelle and RobWhite, the first for calling out (another etsian started it b/c SurrenderDorothy couldn’t log on), the 2nd for dicussing private matters (that one SurrenderDorothy started herself on her husband’s account, her other Etsy account having been muted). There’s a new thread that’s carefully tiptoeing around specifics, but I’m sure its days are numbered, someone will give admin an excuse to close it eventually.

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6633780

  19. Life During Wartime September 21, 2010 at 4:54 pm #

    How is asking for help for someone else calling out?

    Yeah, I know. Etsy was being called out.

  20. Sarah (with an H) September 21, 2010 at 5:12 pm #

    That was my thought too. 🙂

    I see SurrenderDorothy in the forums a fair bit, I don’t recall her being associated with any nastiness, any idea what called the wrath of Etsy down on her?

  21. sick of cupcakes September 21, 2010 at 5:13 pm #

    Wow, what the hell were they thinking?

  22. noCigar September 21, 2010 at 5:25 pm #

    the lack of professionalism on the part of Etsy staff is staggering.

  23. JohnCock September 21, 2010 at 5:33 pm #

    Shut down the people who speak out, while the resellers and scammers thrive. Why???

  24. Life During Wartime September 21, 2010 at 6:00 pm #

    Because people who speak out about real issues with selling on Etsy might discourage new sellers from signing up.

    Scammers and resellers don’t cause problems for Etsy directly. They cause problems for buyers and honest shop owners, but Etsy doesn’t worry about them.

  25. JohnCock September 21, 2010 at 6:05 pm #

    I believe you are right Life. I think I truly believe that Etsy didn’t ever really care about the sales, only reeling in sellers. Its all about getting and retaining more and more sellers and not about attracting buyers.

    I am pretty close to shutting down. Etsy has really sucked all of the joy out of creating for me at this point. 😦

  26. nogo September 21, 2010 at 6:06 pm #

    on her twitter feed she said it was b/c of a complaint of non-delivery, but her & the buyer had fixed the situation weeks ago.
    surrendrdorothy is her twitter name

  27. jenjasmine September 21, 2010 at 6:08 pm #

    They shut down Surrender Dorothy wtf!!!!!!

    I cannot believe that. 😦

  28. nogo September 21, 2010 at 6:32 pm #

    and now the massive sucking up begins after all the “negativity” b/c its so unwarranted in cupcake eyes

    check out the i love etsy thread in the fora.

    I bet admin just loves it when sellers turn on one another. they’ve yet to stop it in all these years

  29. uh-huh September 21, 2010 at 6:46 pm #

    You can almost feel lip on ass reading some of the posts in the forums. Gah.

  30. Lucinda September 21, 2010 at 6:47 pm #

    Wow, SurrenderDorothy has been a good friend to many vintage sellers.

    This really saddens me.

  31. kitten September 21, 2010 at 6:48 pm #

    Regarding SurrenderDorothy, maybe because she is selling vintage book pages that may be copies. She sells oodles of the EXACT same page from 1901, 1898, 1887, 1927, 1912, etc… Not talking about a couple of different pages, it’s practically every old paper item she has in her shop.

    She’s been called out on a couple of blogs before and I never did see an explanation of how she has so many “originals” of the same antique page. Once one sells, it’s relisted. I’d hate to pay $20+ for an original illustration and then see the exact same thing up for sale the next day.

    Her shop was there earlier today because I originally had her in a treasury I was making. I always do a once over of the seller names to make sure I don’t have any duplicates. I was leary to use one of her illustations because I wasn’t sure if it was an original. If they are all originals, then please let buyers know why you have so many copies of the same page so they don’t have any doubts.

  32. Sydney September 21, 2010 at 7:20 pm #

    I’ve given up hope with Etsy.

    If SD was selling non-vintage prints, why did she get shut down when countless times, SouthernLiving has been called out as being a reseller! Even in the Etsy forums! What’s the difference?

  33. Life During Wartime September 21, 2010 at 7:41 pm #

    If SD was selling undisclosed reproductions, and one or more buyers complained, then Etsy had to do something. But Etsy doesn’t know how to handle business issues professionally.

    SouthernLiving’s customers know they are buying factory made cufflinks. I don’t think their Etsy customers care whether the cufflinks are made in China or on some hipster’s kitchen table.

  34. Sarah (with an H) September 21, 2010 at 8:26 pm #

    If she was accused of misrepresenting her merchandise (which, if it proves true, would certainly be inexcusable), it seems like, from what I’ve seen on this blog, she’d have been notified and her shop deactivated, until she received the requisite Etsy coaching, like the countless blatant resellers we’ve all seen resurrected time and time again. These instant shop wipe-outs usually seem to be linked to other issues (ones that cost Etsy money, rather than simply defraud customers or hurt honest sellers) like off-site linking or fee avoidance. And in any case, it sort of blows my mind that shops are vaporized before the user receives any official notice, which was evidently the case here, and with the shops that were closed a few months ago under similar conditions.

    I’ve noticed that some people have said that two shops have been closed today, does anyone know if they’re just referring to both of SurrenderDorothy’s shops, or if there’s another unrelated seller involved?

  35. The Unknown Etsian September 21, 2010 at 9:45 pm #

    SurrenderDorothy has multiple copies of old books. She didn’t scan or photo copy anything.

  36. kitten September 21, 2010 at 9:51 pm #

    The Unknown Etsian Says:
    SurrenderDorothy has multiple copies of old books. She didn’t scan or photo copy anything.
    __________________________________

    Where did she get 25+ copies of the same books from the late 1800’s and early 1900s?

  37. Life During Wartime September 21, 2010 at 9:53 pm #

    I found some of the blog references to SD supposedly selling the same items more than once. If you are dealing in books and ephemera, it’s certainly possible to have multiple copies of books, maps, magazines — textbooks would be especially easy to buy in multiples. So far I see no proof of her doing anything unethical.

    Plenty of Etsy shops are selling fake vintage, though, because Etsy does nothing about it. They don’t even bother coaching sellers like they do with reseller shops for ‘handmade’. Etsy doesn’t really get vintage, and why authenticity matters. There are dozens of examples at the Garagetsy blog about various types of TOU violations involving the Vintage category ignored by Etsy.

  38. Life During Wartime September 21, 2010 at 10:04 pm #

    kitten, it is possible to find a pile of identical old medical texts in a warehouse, or college library basement. Books are not valued now the way they were a few decades ago. I mean, how many artisans on Etsy make their crafts by hacking up books, old and new, common or rare? Or buy their vintage supplies from shops that hack up vintage jewelry, books, or whatever?

    Colleges and libraries probably keep a copy or two of an old nicely illustrated text, and are happy to get someone to take worn/damaged volumes away…maybe even give them away.

    Even in the late 19th Century, printing was a mass-production kind of business, and most books had at least a few awesome illustrations.

  39. kitten September 21, 2010 at 10:36 pm #

    I’m not quite convinced that she has 20, 30 or more exact copies of hundreds of antique books, but thanks for trying Life During Wartime.

  40. sick of cupcakes September 22, 2010 at 4:49 am #

    Well wouldn’t her buyers have known what they received was a copy? I don’t know anything about SD, I’m just asking because I never looked at her shop and feedback.

  41. Antiquer September 22, 2010 at 5:29 am #

    Kitten, unless you know about paper ephemera you shouldn’t make judgments. I have duplicates of antique paper, all pretty spectacular and all BONA FIDE . It’s called being in the business of collecting for a long time. There are people who do that and have been for decades– they know what they are looking for.
    We aint’ talking Gutenburg here, we are talking about books, prints, magazines that were very popular because there wasn’t any TV– if you know where to find them and have an eye, you will have a lot of duplicates. AND the paper quality was pretty darned good a hundred years ago and is out there still looking good, esp if it has been in a book in somebody’s attic. People hoard these things, then grandma dies and it all comes out. If you aren’t knowledgable about the genre, you would never know.

    SurrenderDorothy is the Real Deal. Take it from someone who you don’t know, but who knows her shit.

  42. Antiquer September 22, 2010 at 5:33 am #

    She was shut down because the Etsy staff are reactionaries who don’t want the Truth from anyone. They make mistakes all the time and sweep them under the rug, and when someone tries to hold them accountable they call it “calling out” or “being disruptive”.

    It’s done intentionally to shut the person up and to put fear into everyone else’s hearts. Hence the sucking up cupcakes after every instance of retaliation. Any excuse is a valid one to shut up a vocal truth-teller in the eyes of the forum moderators, who, by the way, are not neutral at all.

  43. LoveAndRage September 22, 2010 at 5:41 am #

    The timing of SD’s removal leads to one thing and one thing only-
    and it’s not FAKE VINTAGE
    it’s revenge on Etsy’s part. It is unprofessional, it is simply
    playground justice by a Multi-Million Dollar Company. I suggest
    you keep that in mind because you might be next.

  44. nogo September 22, 2010 at 5:53 am #

    the latest post on Etsy Bitch is about SD’s shop closing & mutings. She’s posted in their comments about her futile attempts to contact Admin.

    I find it incredibly ironic that they can shut down her down after business hours ( in itself, very shady), but can’t reply to her.

    I wonder if she will join other success stories in leaving altogether, and like Bijou Beautiful did after this same thing happened to her a few months ago..

  45. The Unknown Etsian September 22, 2010 at 6:23 am #

    The Unknown Etsian Says:
    SurrenderDorothy has multiple copies of old books. She didn’t scan or photo copy anything.
    __________________________________

    Where did she get 25+ copies of the same books from the late 1800′s and early 1900s?
    ___
    She probably got hers from where the rest of vintage and ephemera sellers get theirs – rummage sales, yard sales, library closings, the ladies aid society sale etc. This type of thing pops up a lot more than you would think – someone was saving something for “later” and meant to do “something” with it but never did. Thus it ended up in a large pile at one of these sales.

  46. detroit September 22, 2010 at 7:51 am #

    My father-in-law was kind of a hoarder – as I imagine lots of empty nest elderly become. He had MOUNTAINS of stuff that the family had to get rid of when he died. Things he’d been accumulating to, like someone said above, use later. Collecting it for near 80 years.

    Aside from all the other stuff, there were THOUSANDS of books. He was a teacher, so a lot of them were from teaching college, texts from his field, art books, instruction manuals….Walls of them.

    And he was just one average school teacher. There are millions others like him out there.

    AND, like a lot of people have said above, SO WHAT if SD’s stuff was fake? That certainly rarely has ever prompted Etsy to shut a shop before…

  47. nogo September 22, 2010 at 8:49 am #

    she’s back up now.

    who knows what went on from Etsy. They’ve been villainized according to some cupcakes. Sheesh.

  48. JohnCock September 22, 2010 at 9:15 am #

    I am willing to bet that etsy will claim it was an accident, just like the two times they closed me briefly.

  49. Bedazzled VONdom September 22, 2010 at 9:15 am #

    “Kitten, unless you know about paper ephemera you shouldn’t make judgments.”

    I know paper ephemera. I know vintage. I know books. I also know a little something about pigment printing.

    Good riddance, SD.

    (Let this be a lesson to the other Etsy forum attention whores. Don’t shit where you eat.)

  50. Laura September 22, 2010 at 11:06 am #

    Well, I tend to believe SD is the real deal because I have been to Mennonite book sales in which they have stacks of the same antique books for sale for $5 a box! Books from the mid 1800’s! It was heaven! Of course, I bought a ton meaning to resell some of it..and well, I can’t part with them!

  51. southernskirts September 22, 2010 at 12:10 pm #

    Life During Wartime Says:
    SouthernLiving’s customers know they are buying factory made cufflinks. I don’t think their Etsy customers care whether the cufflinks are made in China or on some hipster’s kitchen table.


    This to me is the really sad part, moreso than that they are on Etsy in the first place. 293 sales in a little under 5 months. It makes the entire endeavor seem so hopeless.

  52. Antiquer September 22, 2010 at 12:59 pm #

    Bedazzled VONdom

    This sounds like you have some personal problem with SD. It makes you sound like a very angry, irrational person.
    Perhaps it’s just this one person that pushes your buttons, but you need to take your own advice and stop shitting randomly.

  53. The Unknown Etsian September 22, 2010 at 2:50 pm #

    Bedazzled VONdom

    This sounds like you have some personal problem with SD. It makes you sound like a very angry, irrational person.
    Perhaps it’s just this one person that pushes your buttons, but you need to take your own advice and stop shitting randomly.

    Amen!!

  54. whoreforcolor September 22, 2010 at 4:42 pm #

    Another big cowl maker as featured seller!! I swear, the knitting fetish that TPTB collectively evidence is getting embarrassing. Those items are awfully clunky, too. 138 cupcake commenters disagree with me, though.

  55. PussDaddy September 22, 2010 at 11:34 pm #

    They should set all the copyright infringement shit on fire and then bulldoze it off a cliff.

  56. PussDaddy September 22, 2010 at 11:41 pm #

    No one is exempt from being banned or muted. I am surprised it didn’t happen before this. SD runs her mouth about everyone and everything but not once have I seen her address this subject of the questioning of her own items.

  57. jenjasmine September 23, 2010 at 12:04 am #

    whore- your post reminds me of something my dad always said-

    Eat shit, ten million flies can’t be wrong.

  58. PussDaddy September 23, 2010 at 12:16 am #

    Also, ever notice how people like SurrenderDorothy bitch and gripe 24/7 365 days a year, but yet if they get shut down all they want to do is come back and come back as quickly as possible? Etsy is never going to change for you, ever, so I don’t know why people keep harping on it day in and day out because it is a waste of time and only gets you muted.

  59. PussDaddy September 23, 2010 at 12:37 am #

    Good Lord, did someone actually use hoarding as a defense for SD possibly having so many copies of the same items? This is hilarious as so many have accused me of being a hoarder and when they do this does not seem so socially acceptable. I am not a hoarder, but I do find it odd that now if someone you know and like might be then now it’s perfectly normal and acceptable and it happens all the time all over. Hypocrites. Just like no one should be vocal on the forum or get muted or banned for anything they say as long as it is someone the “gaggle” likes. I’m glad SD doesn’t like cat piss because I wouldn’t piss on her to put her out if she were on fire.

  60. PussDaddy September 23, 2010 at 12:46 am #

    Also, goat who is now over on EB bitching about when she was muted too-I mean really, that this happened was a fucking suprise? She was mean, and nasty, and rude. And she joined with the others nasty personalities to make their little uppityminion mean girl club for the sole purpose of taking over threads and changing the subject and derailing them and having back up to gang up on people. So why is it fucking suprising she got muted? I knew it was only a matter of time.

  61. sick of cupcakes September 23, 2010 at 3:03 am #

    That featured seller is okay. At least she knits her own stuff. In Vancouver you need clunky stuff, LOL.

    In other news it’s good to see Pole on the FP again. Haven’t seen her in a few hours.

  62. detroit September 23, 2010 at 3:11 am #

    The ‘cowl’ epidemic is also insulting to knitters / crocheters. Knitting is one of history’s greatest crafts / artforms. Knitters can make incredibly beautiful and complex garments and housewares.

    But, unfortunately with Etsy’s race to the bottom on price – anyone who makes anything remotely more complex than a chunky scarf could never expect to make any money.

    Also – since Etsy plays FP favorites, a lot of knitters probably think they HAVE to make cowls and fingerless mitts to get any exposure.

    I guess in Brooklyn there’s an epidemic of pasty hipsters who’s skinny necks are cold. lol.

    And – that’s NOT to knock cowls and fingerless gloves! I keep my place at 60 in the winter. And often employ such garments. But, C’MON. There are a ZILLION other knitted items that could be showcased!

  63. detroit September 23, 2010 at 3:13 am #

    Yes – SOC – I think the featured seller is fine too. It’s just…..sigh…..MORE COWLS?

  64. sick of cupcakes September 23, 2010 at 4:57 am #

    I just knit a pair of fingerless gloves for my sis. I can’t imagine selling all that work for next to nothing an hour. I’m guessing the knitters who succeed at selling are much faster than I am.

  65. whoreforcolor September 23, 2010 at 8:43 am #

    That’s quite a comment on the times when we are glad that the Featured Seller “at least” makes her own items!

  66. The Unknown Etsian September 23, 2010 at 10:31 am #

    In other news it’s good to see Pole on the FP again. Haven’t seen her in a few hours.
    ___
    Haven’t had time to keep up with her FP adventures since they happen so fast. What color now?

  67. Antiquer September 23, 2010 at 4:07 pm #

    PussDaddy– I just want you to know that I am sick and tired of your random rantings and lack of anger control. It seems that you go out of your way to misunderstand and take things personally. Well, this time you can take it personally. I think you need to get back to your blog where you can dish anyone you want for any reason you feel necessary.
    You ought to know about mutings etc, because you got yours, too, and you don’t even sell anything– you just dish those who do.

  68. Laura September 23, 2010 at 4:11 pm #

    PussDaddy Says:
    September 22, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    No one is exempt from being banned or muted. I am surprised it didn’t happen before this. SD runs her mouth about everyone and everything but not once have I seen her address this subject of the questioning of her own items.

    I agree with you on this point. Why doesn’t she address this? She’s pretty vocal on the other blogs, so I kinda thought she would mention why she has multiple copies. However, wouldn’t a buyer know that they received a copy? Her feedback is pretty good.. idk

  69. Antiquer September 23, 2010 at 4:12 pm #

    People who sell vintage GET IT FROM HOARDERS. Do you understand now? I couldn’t care less if you hoard, fine for you, but please make an attempt to understand what the hell people are talking about before you shoot off your mouth.
    Another word for hoarder is collector gone a bit too far. They may not even know that the stuff they have is junk or valuable. There are people who do know, and they aren’t the hoarders they are the SELLERS and collectors..

  70. Antiquer September 23, 2010 at 4:16 pm #

    PussDaddy Says:
    September 22, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    No one is exempt from being banned or muted. I am surprised it didn’t happen before this. SD runs her mouth about everyone and everything but not once have I seen her address this subject of the questioning of her own items.

    Why the hell should she? Where is she being questioned, in some random blog? People who make accusations do not deserve a response, don’t you know, because that is what they want. PussDaddy should know, that is what she excels at: trying to stir up the fishbowl and get all personal with people. It’s her hobby to piss people off– not even passive aggressive, just plain aggressive.

  71. Antiquer September 23, 2010 at 4:20 pm #

    Here’s the answer I’d give if I were to bother (which I wouldn’t):

    I know what sells, I know where to find it, and there is a lot of it out there especially if you have been in the biz for a long time. I am talking 40 years of pawing through boxes of books and paper and going to auctions– it’s a SPECIALTY. If you are afraid it isn’t authentic, don’t buy it. Someone else will.

  72. detroit September 23, 2010 at 4:59 pm #

    PussDaddy Says:
    September 23, 2010 at 12:37 am

    Good Lord, did someone actually use hoarding as a defense for SD possibly having so many copies of the same items?
    _____________________________________________

    That was me – lol. PD – I was just trying to say there are a LOT of older people – from the depression, and just post depression generation – who save every scrap!

    And when they die, their stuff ends up in thrifts, estate sales, etc…

    I personally try to save every scrap myself. You never know when something will come in useful. Call me a hoarder if you like, I don’t care – lol.

    My Dad died recently. I’ve always saved boxes, gift bags, and curios for storing items. A lot of cute packaging! I never knew why. But now, I want to divide up his ashes for a lot of his friends. And I have a ton of little wooden boxes, antique candy tins, and beautiful packaging I can use. That makes me really happy. NOTHING wtrong with ‘hoarding’. And, if I die tomorrow, the peeps going thru my stuff will find a ton of interesting things.

    Which I a roundabout way of saying, I have NO IDEA of SD was a cheater. BUT, if she wasn’t, it’s not to hard to imagine her coming across real troves of old stuff.

    And, even IF she was a cheater. WHEN did Etsy ever shut people down for that shit? NEVER, unless their fragile sensibilities were HUWT in the forums.

    A Chinese reseller who never posts in the forums is free to conduct business as usual…

  73. LoveAndRage September 23, 2010 at 5:30 pm #

    ..and this thread is about ..

    ….

    ..

    what?

    Maybe we need more mutings!

  74. JK September 24, 2010 at 4:21 am #

    ‘Antiquer Says:
    September 23, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    People who sell vintage GET IT FROM HOARDERS.’

    YUCK. Maybe you do, but I don’t buy from people who can’t tell an empty soda can from a collectible and stuff their filthy houses indiscriminately.

  75. The Unknown Etsian September 24, 2010 at 7:32 am #

    I’m glad SD doesn’t like cat piss because I wouldn’t piss on her to put her out if she were on fire.
    _____
    Its obvious you don’t like her. You bring up the multiple copy issue on every new blog post you can. You have told us you don’t like her. You don’t like her.
    Got a bulletin for ya, we have heard it. Don’t need to hear it anymore. Don’t care. SD wouldn’t piss down your throat if your guts were on fire.

  76. SurrenderDorothy September 24, 2010 at 11:40 am #

    This bulllshit is almost funny really.
    Hey Asscat, I’m an antique book dealer you pathetic slanderous moron. In case you missed what these other people have been trying to telli you, even back 100 plus years ago, books were mass-produced by the hundreds of thousands of copies for people who actually read stuff. Many of these books; like the medical texts were revised and amended yearly for decades. Busloads of these antique books still exist to this very day.

    Got a couple of hours, no life and nothing better to do with your time? (which clearly you don’t, PD) Please feel free to browse through my sold items once again and do an item count for duplicate prints.
    25 plus copies of the same book? Not in your dreams. Try 2 to up to 7 copies that I’ve sold dupes of.
    Then take the rest of the afternoon and read my feedback. I sell antique prints to private collectors and institutions all over the world and the ONLY person who’s ever accused me of selling fake reprints ever has been YOU.
    I told you to MYOB YEARS ago in an Etsy forum thread once and now I’m your enemy? Seriously? Your still pissed off about that?

    So besides making a pathetic boring asshole of yourself in cyberworld, what is it that you do is real life exactly, PD? Not that I care really, but make someone out there wants to know.
    Does nobody in your life love you and so you feel so hated and shitty about yourself that you feel sickly compelled to harrass and slander total strangers over the internet? Because if that’s the case, I feel really sorry for you, girlfriend. Honest to God, Pam you need to find yourself some professional help.
    Have a nice life and be crazy someplace else and please stay out of mine. Thank you

    Veronica/ SurrenderDorothy/ HerRoyalMajestyBags

  77. SurrenderDorothy September 24, 2010 at 11:50 am #

    PussDaddy Says:
    September 23, 2010 at 12:46 am

    Also, goat who is now over on EB bitching about when she was muted too-I mean really, that this happened was a fucking suprise? She was mean, and nasty, and rude. And she joined with the others nasty personalities to make their little uppityminion mean girl club for the sole purpose of taking over threads and changing the subject and derailing them and having back up to gang up on people. So why is it fucking suprising she got muted? I knew it was only a matter of time.
    ——————————————-

    Whoa. Does anyone else catch the irony here?
    YOU think Goat is mean nasty and rude? You’ve got to be shitting me,
    Goat is a jewel.

  78. Antiquer September 24, 2010 at 1:37 pm #

    Revisit this one, everybody.
    https://etsycallout.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/pussdaddy-permanently-banned-from-forums/

  79. pissed off September 24, 2010 at 2:00 pm #

    I don’t miss PussDaddy on Etsy and I’d like to not miss her here too.
    Why don’t you just spare us all the ugly badly done drama and drop dead? I’ll bet your poor husband won’t miss you either.

    The poor sorry fucker.

  80. Ick September 24, 2010 at 2:23 pm #

    Pre-frontal lobotomies are good, too.

  81. GiveMeABREAK September 24, 2010 at 3:24 pm #

    After going to a friend’s home in HS I saw a room full of books..I mean a 15 x 20 huge room full of nothing but books! I snooped around the room and asked my friend WTH is up with these books? She said , “My dad buys and sells old books…He told me that people will buy a whole book for one page! He has like 10-20 of the same damn book for a stupid page. I have never forgotten that room stacked from floor to ceiling with musty books.

    They lived in a home that I could only dream about. Do I believe SD is selling Originals? Hell yes I do. No one can convince me otherwise.

  82. pissed off September 24, 2010 at 4:04 pm #

    I heard somewheres that Puss got her nasty ass kicked off Artfire forums too.
    Is that true?

  83. Ick September 24, 2010 at 4:58 pm #

    If I ever saw a post on AF by PD it would really piss me off. She’s dangerous; she loves to get people muted and I know this from personal experience. She makes personal attacks until you lose it, then reports your post. Her rampant bullshit was a constant annoyance to lots of people.

  84. LoveAndRage September 24, 2010 at 5:55 pm #

    Why is this about Puss suddenly?

    Honestly? Everyone talks about the “nice”,
    the “love”,
    the “positive” ,
    but we all run off to titter about what Puss is saying.

    PLEASE- she has NEVER been so popular as the Nutgem mess-
    give a drama whore a drama and she will run like a whore on a dollar.
    I wonder how many of you have pubically added yourselves to her “private blog”..

    Really?
    Isnt it like buying The Star..or The Equirer in front of someone you respect?
    Who wants to really be tied to Puss?
    Who wants to pew endless hate, venom, and anger?

    It’s fun to watch.
    Entertaining to read,
    but a steady diet?

    No.
    No one wants that.

    No one.

  85. detroit September 24, 2010 at 6:31 pm #

    Oh c’mon. This is the INTERNET! I think PD is pretty funny. Can I understand why people don’t like her? YES. But when she’s going after a ‘bad guy’ it’s great , and everyone cheers her on. Which is most of the time.

    Sometimes she aims her wit and venom at someone I don’t think deserves it – cringe! But, like I said, it’s the friggin INTERNET people. Unless you get your undies all in a twist and engage her, she can do you no harm.

    People take the forums MAD SERIOUS! lol. If they’re that painful for you, don’t click on em.

    That being said, the above link (about PD’s muting) was great because I read this quote (from Betsy etc):

    “It won’t stop Rob White from being a micro-phallused, censoring control freak or the Etsy admins from being inept, pedantic, cliquish dingdongs or Rob Kalin from being a totalitarian tin god.”

    Wow – what verbal gymnastics! Bravo Betsy. And I can’t wait to use ‘micro-phallused’ in conversation. Your whole post was great!

  86. detroit September 24, 2010 at 6:32 pm #

    Oh yeah – and PD could see right thru Nutjob Glick. I give her credit for that right there.

  87. sara September 26, 2010 at 12:36 am #

    detroit, I copy pasted that very bit from betsy. One of the best summaries of the forums I’ve ever read.

  88. kitten September 26, 2010 at 8:02 am #

    SurrenderDorothy says:
    Whoa. Does anyone else catch the irony here?
    YOU think Goat is mean nasty and rude? You’ve got to be shitting me,
    Goat is a jewel.
    ___________________________________________________

    Goat is a jewel?? She’s utterly disgusting! Whatever the reason is she isn’t in the Etsy forums much anymore, I DON’T CARE! I’ve never seen anyone with so much hate and rage, to CONTINUALLY go beserk in a public forum. Why she wasn’t muted ions ago is astounding! Her excuse, “I don’t sugarcoat anything.” She’s a fucking psycho loon… and sunflowerexpress was a close second.

    (One of my first recollections of sunflowerexpress was her going off on a seller for selling copyrighted items in her shop, but defended her “Facebook, Twitter and RSS” badges by saying she is “asking” for permission to sell them. Yeah, like Twitter and Facebook really want some ranting Mimi Bobeck wannabe representing them. In other words, do as I say, not as I do. Hypocrite.)

    Goat has a million and one excuses about her behavior… blah, blah, blah, etc… Well she’s smart enough to spell and type out vile posts in the forums and she’s smart enough to read and observe how most Etsians behave in the forums…. she’s just not quite smart enough to know how someone in a civilized society should act.

    Goat sells SOAP for crissakes and her sales are a drop in the bucket for a soap seller. You don’t think the personality she shows on Etsy has anything to do with that??

    Yeah I see the irony here SurrenderDorothy, you’re defending goat. You’re just a PG example of her. Not as nasty, but you’re no peach either. You enjoy being vocal and pointing fingers at other sellers in the forums, but it’s not fun when the spotlight is on you, is it SD? LOL You got a problem with a seller on Etsy, REPORT them. You’re continual whah, whah, whahing posts are beyond nauseating. Nothing but a promo. You and littleputbooks and sherrytruitt and NeatThings. Queens of the promos disguised as public service announcements. *rolls eyes*

    SurrenderDorothy, PD is spot on about you. She didn’t bring up you copying your vintage pages, I did. You’re an antique book dealer? Ok. It would probably be to your benefit to put that little tidbit of information in your paper listings. I heard about you and your practics from a vintage jewelry seller friend who read about it on an off Etsy vintage jewelry forum of all places. She really doesn’t come into the Etsy forums, only the chat rooms, so PD isn’t the only one who questions your shop.

    You tell PD to MYOB? Now THAT’s irony! PD may have faults, who doesn’t? She will apologize and admit if she makes a mistake.

    She exposed nutmegclick for the slime that she is (without having a meltdown like Trudy) and had the guts to call out crazy poetsummer. She has proof and usually doesn’t post anything that she can’t verify. If she finds out she was wrong, she removes the post and gives the reason why. She’s fair and has a genuine good heart. If you don’t agree, oh well.

    The ones who seem to have a problem with PD are the ones who’ve been featured on her blog. Cwebster, yeah there’s a fine upstanding gentleman for you. ShadeJewelry, another one. Poetsummer, just lovely. Nutmegclick, salt of the earth. Yep, these are the caliber of folks that dislike PD and for good reason. She exposed them for the frauds that they are.

    I really don’t wish for your shop to be closed permanently SD, but you don’t see a little poetic justice there? Come on, a seller who always calls out other sellers in the forums, gets shut down herself. Hahaha, you can’t make this stuff up!

    If Etsy would only give a permanent muting to that annoying attention whore AprilMarieMai… Now THAT would be pefect! Another one of those, rules are for everyone ELSE types.

  89. pissed off September 26, 2010 at 1:52 pm #

    Oh My Stars & Garters, Miss Kitten! but right there you sounded exactly like your alter ego kitty friend.

  90. kitten September 26, 2010 at 2:27 pm #

    pissed off Says:
    Oh My Stars & Garters, Miss Kitten! but right there you sounded exactly like your alter ego kitty friend.
    _______________________________________

    Looking back at this thread, you’ve been pretty vocal of your dislike of PD. Were you a featured seller on her blog?

  91. morgansilk September 26, 2010 at 3:33 pm #

    Kitten,
    I don’t know about SD, but PussDaddy felt it necessary to try to cream me on her blog. Just go in there and search for my name and you will see multiple attacks. I found out about them one day googling myself. That was special.
    For some reason, she took exception to the fact that I have two Etsy shops (one is vintage) and used both accounts to post in the forums.
    Of course, she wouldn’t understand that if you have two accounts you are always switching back and forth to work on them. She apparently thought I was trying to deceive people into believing I was two people. Why would anyone do this? My account profiles link each other; I actually follow TOU, and having the same voice with two different names comes from DOING ONLINE WORK. Some secret! If she sold or created anything, she might know this.
    Her attacks on me were personal, nasty, and intentionally provocative. I have NO IDEA why she jumped all over me and never did. AND I don’t care, because it’s almost a compliment to be hated by someone so nuts.

    I have never bothered to respond to her attacks, in fact I had completely forgotten them until I saw her posts on this blog. If Kitten is her alter-ego (which is very easy to imagine considering the “prose” style of the writing).

    After a few drinks I am sure she will probably have at me again after reading this. Be my guest, I have nothing to hide.

  92. morgansilk September 26, 2010 at 3:35 pm #

    Incomplete sentence. Meant to write: If Kitten is her alter-ego (which is very easy to imagine considering the “prose” style of the writing) it will make me feel dirty. I sure hope that is not the case.

  93. kitten September 26, 2010 at 4:01 pm #

    Not everyone with a “feline inspired name” is PD. I don’t know her, I did read her blog until she closed it. I see it’s back open again, but it doesn’t seem to be as hopping as it was before the past closure. I somewhat remember when she was in the Etsy forums, as I liked seeing her different avatars.

    I usually agree with most people she “features”, but I would probably do it with a little less cursing, lol. I do curse mind you, but not in everyday conversation. I still enjoy reading what PD writes, just sometimes I cringe when there’s too many obsenities.

    The one person I recall that I didn’t agree with PD on was TheAppleCobbler who got her banner from HatBoxStudio. I think PD either backtracked on that one or totally deleted that post when TAC came to her blog and explained the situation.

    I DO remember PD commenting about you morgansilk regarding using two different shop names to comment in the forums in the same thread. If I recall, you were pretty vocal in the forums back then so is it possible you and she had some differences from her forum days? I remember you had some nice vintage items in your shop(s).

  94. morgansilk September 26, 2010 at 9:14 pm #

    Kitten–
    “Differences” is not an excuse to verbally abuse and stalk someone.
    (And I still have some nice vintage items in my other shop!)

  95. jenn September 27, 2010 at 5:47 am #

    kitten, you have a lot of very strong opinions (which you’re entitled to) about Goat & SD, etc, complete with personal jabs, but yet you don’t post here under your etsy name, do you?
    Why not?

  96. pissed off September 27, 2010 at 2:39 pm #

    People who talk about themselves in the 3rd person make me think I’m listening to a serial killer. PussKittenDetroit, you give me the creeps.

  97. kitten September 27, 2010 at 4:46 pm #

    jenn Says:
    kitten, you have a lot of very strong opinions (which you’re entitled to) about Goat & SD, etc, complete with personal jabs, but yet you don’t post here under your etsy name, do you?
    Why not?
    ___________________________

    I don’t go all psycho in the Etsy forums under my seller names, calling out other users, being rude and condescending, crashing threads just to be a boring obnoxious ass and just looking to pick a fight and get the thread closed. Mostly that is aimed at Goat and to a lesser extent sunflowerexpress, but SD has dished out her share of insults in the forums.

    I would never do that at all mind you, but it takes a certain type of crazy to do that under your user name.

    Yes I have strong opinions after having witnessed it time after time. It’s disgusting and for awhile there Goat made the forums almost unbearable. She was like a ticking time bomb. Glad she took a break, either Etsy muting or self inflicted time out, I don’t care. Just glad she’s not around much.

    You really don’t think I’m the ONLY ONE who feels this way, especially about Goat. Her reputation was pretty well known in the forums when she spent all her free time wrecking havoc instead of making sales. Need a refresher, go read Closed Threads and see for yourself.

    pissed off Says:
    People who talk about themselves in the 3rd person make me think I’m listening to a serial killer. PussKittenDetroit, you give me the creeps.
    ___________________________________

    Really not sure what you’re talking about… or else you don’t know what “talking about themselves in the 3rd person” is.

    Your name is pissed off. That’s creepy, like you’re pissed off and not going to take it anymore. Next we’ll be reading the newspapers about some wacko who left a note and signed it “pissed off” before they holed up in some abandoned factory tower picking innocent civilians off with an assault rifle.

  98. bling September 28, 2010 at 2:06 pm #

    Go away, kitten, and take your misery with you. Unless, of course, you want to call out a reseller. You keep digging yourself another foot deeper.

  99. kitten September 28, 2010 at 8:26 pm #

    Whatever. Don’t like what I have to say, you’re free to go away and read the recent posts on resellers.

    Oh and you might want to pick one name bling/pissed off/jenn and stick to it.

  100. jenn September 29, 2010 at 3:53 am #

    kitten, I am NOT bling or pissed off, so please don’t go throwing around accusations.

  101. The Unknown Etsian September 29, 2010 at 6:06 am #

    People who sell vintage GET IT FROM HOARDERS.’
    ____
    Ah, no. I get mine from yard sales, estate sales, thrift shops, donations from friends etc. Have never seen a hoarder in real life. But then I haven’t seen any families with 20 children, sextuplets, short statured dog rescuers, bounty hunters, polygamists, jersey shore types or other “reality” TV people either.

  102. bling September 29, 2010 at 1:04 pm #

    I am none of those people, either. You are paranoid (schizophrenic?)

  103. PussDaddy October 9, 2010 at 12:09 am #

    OMFG now I’m kitten and detroit and anyone else you bitches don’t agree with. I’m every body on the fucking internet that dares to say Boo to you, right?

    SurrenderDorothy, I don’t even remember you telling me to mind my own business on a thread. However, you have just as much a loser life as I do since you can stay online bitchig all day and all night for years while trying to peddle your junk and your fucking handbags no one wants. That fucking flower power bag had been listed and relisted since I joined Etsy in Sept. of 2007. I mean how fucking stupid are you to keep listing this shit for years when it is obvious no one is going to buy it, and if you do whose fucking fault is that? Should Etsy assing someone to protect you from your own stupidity? You can’t even get a fucking real job yourself so kiss my loser ass.

    Also by SurrenderDorothy’s own definition morgansilk just needs to nut up and give it a fucking break already. Cream her? Stalk her? The bitch is as dingy as that other quote tweeting, broomstick riding drama queen whose unoriginal tweets preface the unoriginal crap you will find in her handbag shop. The bitch morganpuke/LaVague was talking about me on Etsy Bitch long before I ever gave her ditzy talking to herself ass a thought. Maybe she’s obsessed with me, and stalking and creaming me. Whatever. Someone should slap the fuck right out of this silly assed histrionic, exaggerating drama queen. The only thing that really bothers this bi-polar talking to herself nitwit is that other people noticed she talks to herself too and agreed it is creepy and hilarious.

    As for the other bitch, the pissed off/ick whatever person, she probably makes crappy, copyright infringement jewelry and has a slew of negs for it. Or did. Who gives a fuck what she says or thinks? All you bitches deserve each other IMHO.

    And no, I was not the first to question Surrender Dorothy’s selling so many copies of one item. I was just another one who questioned it. She should spend some of her time emailing and convo’ing people on Etsy as if she is the Etsy gestapo, speaking of having no fucking life.

    Most of you bitches do what the voices in your head tell you to do. You all deserve each other IMHO. Years and years of non-stop bitching online, yet I am the one with no life. Go look in the mirror.

    You can kiss my furry little ass.

    PussDaddy

  104. PussDaddy October 9, 2010 at 12:11 am #

    41 | sick of cupcakes
    September 22, 2010 at 4:49 am

    Well wouldn’t her buyers have known what they received was a copy? I don’t know anything about SD, I’m just asking because I never looked at her shop and feedback.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

    I don’t know. Did anyone complain about nutmegclick”s non-vintage mass produced vintage charts and posters and crap they ordered?

  105. PussDaddy October 9, 2010 at 12:15 am #

    87 | detroit
    September 24, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    Oh yeah – and PD could see right thru Nutjob Glick. I give her credit for that right there.
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    For the record, even tho I made my initial blog post about nutsack that I thought it was all hokey and suspicious and then retracted it because she convinced me I was wrong, when I decided I was right again and reposted it from there I had “help” finding stuff and I didn’t do it all by myself and I don’t want to give the impression that I did, but thanks for saying that.

  106. PussDaddy October 9, 2010 at 12:21 am #

    70 | Antiquer
    September 23, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    People who sell vintage GET IT FROM HOARDERS. Do you understand now? I couldn’t care less if you hoard, fine for you, but please make an attempt to understand what the hell people are talking about before you shoot off your mouth.
    Another word for hoarder is collector gone a bit too far. They may not even know that the stuff they have is junk or valuable. There are people who do know, and they aren’t the hoarders they are the SELLERS and collectors..

    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

    You just need to calm the hell down. I know what the fuck was said. I even knew who the fuck said it. Ok? My point was that at least one bitch here (morgansilk/LaVague) bashed me to hell and back with her fellow cuntesses for “buying and hoarding”, but it’s perfectly ok to buy shit from people who do this very thing. Hypocrites. So have a nice big cup of STFU why don’t ya,

  107. PussDaddy October 9, 2010 at 12:47 am #

    And last but not fucking leastly, when you see these people in the forum day after day for years on end complaining about how there are no jobs where they live so they are reduced to selling online and this is their major form of income to live on, how they can’t pay their rent, utilities, or even their fucking Etsy bills, when you see them complaining about not getting any sales, and they keep relisting their stuff over and over and over for fucking years and have very few sales or sales are very far between, and how whenever Etsy does something they don’t like then Etsy is taking food right the fuck out of the mouth of their kids because if they don’t have ETsy money then they don’t have money at all, THEN WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE HAVE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE MONETARY CAPABILITY TO GO AROUND BUYING UP VINTAGE SHIT IN MASSIVE AMOUNTS TO SELL SEVERAL COPIES OF THE SAME ITEM ON THE FUCKING INTERNET? Maybe it is YOU who makes people question this. Ever fucking think of that SurrenderDorothy? I mean you should understand completely the way you are all up in everyone’s business all the fucking time yourself questioning everything THEY do. And if you weren’t such a whining, complaining drone and a total fucking Debbie Downer all the time then maybe you might get more sales. That is a possibility. I know you turned me off completely the minute I laid eyes on you and within 5 days you and a group of other chronic complainers who thought Etsy evolved around them went down on my do not buy from list so quick it made my head spin. Of course I did relent and buy some trim tho just to shut you the fuck up for a while the day you were once again complaining about everything I just mentioned. I mean if you can do this shit for years on end and you don’t think you are a loser then don’t say anything to me if I have years on end to sit around and watch the shit because it would appear to me that we BOTH have too much time on our hands in that case. I figure I’ll get a fucking job when some of you bitches finally give up and do it. How’s that?

  108. kitten October 9, 2010 at 5:42 pm #

    I was going to let sleeping dogs lie, but since this thread has revived itself in my INBOX, I thought I add this since it’s rather comical.

    Remember SurrenderDorothy said this on September 24th:
    Hey Asscat, I’m an antique book dealer you pathetic slanderous moron.

    THEN in her forum thread started on October 4th, she tells us she found a pricey book….

    “A quick bit of Google research at my desk a few hours ago, showed me that one of my books, a dark blue book with an orangy title to be no ordinary used book, but a genuine 1927 first edition copy of Sinclair Lewis’s famous work; Elmer Gantry!

    In the first edition, the printing on the spine shows first letter of Gantry looking like the letter “C” and it’s worth a nice chunk of change in nice condition; and mine is! …. it’s worth about a Grand!”

    BUT then states further in the thread………….

    “I have no clue how I would find a buyer for such a thing.”

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6645673

    I guess the only fitting thing to be said here is, “Liar, liar, pants on fire!”

  109. PussDaddy October 16, 2010 at 2:24 pm #

    I am 100% convinced that letter “C” means cunt. Antique book dealer? Sure. Just like I am a purebred fucking Persian. Sorry you bitches don’t fool me and that it bothers you.

  110. PussDaddy October 16, 2010 at 2:29 pm #

    “I have found several intersting things in my travels………”

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6645673&page=2

    Travels? What travels? Because for almost 4 years that I know about her ass has been glued to Etsy and twitter bitching. Going to local flea market is not fucking traveling IMHO.

  111. PussDaddy October 16, 2010 at 3:19 pm #

    92 | morgansilk
    September 26, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    Kitten,
    I don’t know about SD, but PussDaddy felt it necessary to try to cream me on her blog
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

    And just WTF do you gaggle of bitches call this when YOU do it?

    http://pussdaddyblogs.blogspot.com/2009/01/no-morgansilklavogue-i-dont-hate-you.html

    http://pussdaddyblogs.blogspot.com/2009/01/oh-no-morgansilklavogue-did-not-say.html

    There are a sum total of 4 posts about MorganPuke/LaVague on my blog (and only that many until today about SurrenderDorothy when I posted she addressed this issue so that makes 5)and at least 2 of them about MorganPuke are about what SHE FUCKING SAID ABOUT ME first. The sum total of what I said to disparage this wacko crybaby bitch’s work product was “I don’t personally know anyone over 60 who wears scarves”. That’s it. I said that once when she was doing one of her regular whining, bitching, can’t get any sales/my stuff is too great and unappreciated on Etsy and there is no buyers here for it here bitch sessions. That’s it-that is what I said to “disparage” her work. I even once told her after that I thought one of her scarves were nice and I would wear that one and she ran over to Etsy Bitch (I believe it was EB) and posted that I was now trying to “kiss her ass and get on her good side”. Why the fuck would I do that when I can’t stand her and this only proves IMHO that my opinion that she thinks she is better than everyone and her shit doesn’t stink has a ring of truth to it as WTF would I gain from kissing this bitch’s ass? The bitch is as dingy as they come and blows everything out of proportion. And once and for all please note the dates on my own blog posts about this wacko are dated way, way, way after she made her comments about me here, and be sure to turn the page so you get them all.

    https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=286747608538901945&postID=2058871146105445421

    You bitches aren’t innocent either ya know.

    And for the record, this is the sort of shit SurrendorDorothy/RoyalPITABags lives for. Talk about having no fucking life.

    http://pussdaddyblogs.blogspot.com/2010/02/whose-chops-got-busted-im-confused.html
    And did you see an apology to this seller for her wrong assumption or handing out erroneous advice ? Like I said, who died and put her in charge?

  112. PussDaddy October 16, 2010 at 6:43 pm #

    Correction-what I told her was that I don’t personally know anyone UNDER 60 who wears scarves. Uner, not over.

  113. PussDaddy October 17, 2010 at 3:59 am #

    80 | pissed off
    September 24, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    I don’t miss PussDaddy on Etsy and I’d like to not miss her here too.
    Why don’t you just spare us all the ugly badly done drama and drop dead? I’ll bet your poor husband won’t miss you either.

    The poor sorry fucker.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

    At least I have one and have had one for a significant length of time. But don’t worry honey, even old, corpulant, mentally-challenged bitches like you can get laid if you try hard enough. Have you tried selling your pussy on Etsy, or do you have a fear of negs?

  114. cwebster October 17, 2010 at 11:41 am #

    “[PD]’s fair and has a genuine good heart.”

    What a load of horseshit. All PD is is another hate-monger who runs her ignorant mouth constantly, projecting her own inadequacies onto others. A yenta, at best. Unfortunately, her followers have their heads so far up her ass that they’re blinded to the reality that their “hero” is nothing of the sort.

    If PD is such an upstanding citizen, why is she perma-muted, and I’m not? And why did she get booted altogether for feedback-bombing a seller using a (rather obvious) sock puppet account? Riddle me that, Batman.

  115. kitten October 17, 2010 at 6:52 pm #

    cwebster said:

    “[PD]’s fair and has a genuine good heart.”

    What a load of horseshit. All PD is is another hate-monger who runs her ignorant mouth constantly, projecting her own inadequacies onto others. A yenta, at best. Unfortunately, her followers have their heads so far up her ass that they’re blinded to the reality that their “hero” is nothing of the sort.

    If PD is such an upstanding citizen, why is she perma-muted, and I’m not? And why did she get booted altogether for feedback-bombing a seller using a (rather obvious) sock puppet account? Riddle me that, Batman.
    _____________________________

    I would imagine you’re not perma muted because you’re rather blah.

    Last I heard PD didn’t get booted, but I’m sure she will set us straight. It’s quite possible you’ve gotten real life mixed up with one of those comic books you read in between sending convos to lonley hard-up losers telling them you don’t know how you can pay your bills this month. sniff sniff

    Oh wait, I hear Sha Na Na in the distance……..

    Sha na na na – sha na na na na
    Dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip
    Mum mum mum mum mum mum
    GET A JOB
    Sha na na na – sha na na na na

  116. PussDaddy October 20, 2010 at 10:39 am #

    I almost didn’t recognize cwebster without his little tin cup and “will post naked pics for money” sign. What the fuck is that to brag about-that Etsy allows you to hang around taking up cyberspace while neither buying or selling anyting while using the forum to bum money? Ok great-you are a wonderful, honorable, noble person because you are allowed to this while I am a piece of shit because I am muted. I can pay my own bills though.

  117. PussDaddy October 20, 2010 at 10:43 am #

    So in the end, I guess that makes me more of a man than cwebster is, and I am a female. And no I don’t care to answer to any of this loser’s questions, as he is not important enough for me to even consider the possibility of doing so. People will think what they want to think anyway so why bother.

  118. VintageClothing October 25, 2010 at 7:17 am #

    109 | kitten
    October 9, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    I was going to let sleeping dogs lie, but since this thread has revived itself in my INBOX, I thought I add this since it’s rather comical.

    Remember SurrenderDorothy said this on September 24th:
    Hey Asscat, I’m an antique book dealer you pathetic slanderous moron.

    THEN in her forum thread started on October 4th, she tells us she found a pricey book….

    “A quick bit of Google research at my desk a few hours ago, showed me that one of my books, a dark blue book with an orangy title to be no ordinary used book, but a genuine 1927 first edition copy of Sinclair Lewis’s famous work; Elmer Gantry!

    In the first edition, the printing on the spine shows first letter of Gantry looking like the letter “C” and it’s worth a nice chunk of change in nice condition; and mine is! …. it’s worth about a Grand!”

    BUT then states further in the thread………….

    “I have no clue how I would find a buyer for such a thing.”

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6645673

    I guess the only fitting thing to be said here is, “Liar, liar, pants on fire!”

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    I’m not saying whether your allegations about SD are true or false, only jumping in to talk about this particular expose. I wouldn’t assume someone isn’t a book dealer because they are wondering how to connect a buyer with a very specialized item.

    Even if someone is a specialist in a particular area of antiques or vintage, does not mean they instantly know how to locate buyer of a specialized item. It’s much more complicated than that.

  119. Beth October 3, 2011 at 2:06 pm #

    Hi Everyone,

    I am Beth from TrulySanctuary. I believe this forum began about us and then turned into a slightly different discussion. I wanted to apologize to all the beautiful artists we have offended, hurt or damaged in anyway. When we started out we were very naive…just plain stupid I suppose. We were excited at all of the possibilities…we were just as equally ignorant. I just wanted to apologize in that helps.

  120. Beth October 3, 2011 at 2:07 pm #

    *in case : )

  121. Jennifer Moran July 27, 2012 at 4:15 pm #

    I appreciate the passion here, but are disappointed in some of the respondents; many are responding without full information. Though I am apparently two years late with a response, I respect an artist’s voice and hope you do too before passing judgement (I would have invited all conversation).

    I support the handmade movement. I am an artist. I AM the artist behind Greenola. I DESIGN, DRAFT, DRAW, and have a hand in EVERY SINGLE one of our designs. I do not simply purchase items and re-sell them. Unlike many fashion designers (many who sell on etsy, and have a seamstress/sewing team), I have chosen to fight human exploitation and work with women artisans in Bolivia to work alongside ME on MY designs.

    I respect your opinions and passion for the movement and just challenge you to think about the difference between myself and an artist who digitally prints an image on a t-shirt that was made by machine/ or less than ideal situations (not by them, but simply purchased and re-sold). Or what about an artist that outsources their printing to print shop? Art is not so cut and dry. I encourage you to open your minds and embrace the movement rather than pass judgement, contradictory to your passion.

    It’s easy to be mean and bully. Why not encourage conversation that in turn provides growth?

    Just my two cents.

    *If DePaul would give me my money back, that would be great. Who wouldn’t want their money back! 🙂 I will however defend the education I received there, and how I’ve learned to be a respectful citizen. Oh, and you’ve forgotten to mention my time at Art School. That was a fantastic education and experience as well.

    Peace to all.

  122. PussDaddyBlogs (@PussDaddyBlogs) March 19, 2013 at 4:46 pm #

    Regarding SurrenderDorothy, maybe because she is selling vintage book pages that may be copies. She sells oodles of the EXACT same page from 1901, 1898, 1887, 1927, 1912, etc… Not talking about a couple of different pages, it’s practically every old paper item she has in her shop.

    She’s been called out on a couple of blogs before and I never did see an explanation of how she has so many “originals” of the same antique page. Once one sells, it’s relisted. I’d hate to pay $20+ for an original illustration and then see the exact same thing up for sale the next day.

    Her shop was there earlier today because I originally had her in a treasury I was making. I always do a once over of the seller names to make sure I don’t have any duplicates. I was leary to use one of her illustations because I wasn’t sure if it was an original. If they are all originals, then please let buyers know why you have so many copies of the same page so they don’t have any doubts.
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    I think you were right all along. Read her feedback and see how many say “this was not a lithograph”, “this was not a chart”, blah blah blah, “It was a copy of a page from a book!”

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