VeraWoo

16 Oct

Check out this re seller on ebay selling cheap crap from China and
promoting it in the chat rooms. Her pictures have some of the original
tags on the items or photos of the cheap chinese catalogs of jewelry.

http://www.etsy.com/shop/VeraWoo

here is one example of one of her identical bracelets on ebay.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/58319007/new-black-leather-with-skull-cuff

http://cgi.ebay.com/COWHIDE-LEATHER-WHITE-SKULL-BRACELET-WRISTBAND-6-10-L-/300480388983?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f606df77

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35 Responses to “VeraWoo”

  1. WangFu October 16, 2010 at 10:54 am #

    How is this a supply?
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/59112505/sale-1-bosun-whistle-necklace-with-box?ref=v1_other_1

  2. Inspector Yuk October 16, 2010 at 11:32 am #

    Well, not that I think because one sells on ebay that automatically makes them a reseller, but we called out a shop not too long ago, Martin1206 who sells virtually the same thing. And if you put ‘cotton cord bracelet’ into the Etsy search, you get a number of shops that look almost identical. I don’t doubt for a minute they’re made by hand, I just doubt that all these sellers are actually the ones doing it, or they all happen to have a family run business making these things.

  3. Life During Wartime October 16, 2010 at 1:01 pm #

    Etsy is a great place for these sweat shop factory bracelets because where else would so many be willing to pay $4-10 for a piece made with a few cents worth of materials (even at US wholesale supplies costs) plus pay $4 for mailing? These shops are bottom feeders. Not necessarily bottom in price but in the intelligence and sophistication of their customer bases.

    I’d love to know about how many kids under 18 are buying on Etsy without a parent around? Because I don’t believe women professionals are buying these items.

  4. OhNoItsNOT October 16, 2010 at 1:46 pm #

    Is that shop name some sort of slant on Vera Wang?

  5. Inspector Yuk October 16, 2010 at 3:59 pm #

    Etsy demographics, last I checked, indicates that the majority of the audience is in the 25-34 y/o age bracket. I wore stuff like this 25 years ago and as popular as they seem to be, are very inappropriate for me today.

    When I was in that age bracket, I bought cheap costume jewelry on impulse or to match a certain outfit, but as I got older, I began to look for more quality and longevity. Not just in jewelry, but in everything. I’m finding Etsy to be less and less to my taste or my market.

  6. Life During Wartime October 16, 2010 at 4:40 pm #

    I remember seeing that, too, Yuk. But I think that demographic data is out of date.

  7. OhNoItsNOT October 16, 2010 at 5:18 pm #

    loosewire
    Etsy Admin
    loosewire says:
    Hello!

    Thank you for sharing your concerns here. This is a worthy discussion and we’ll be discussing internally, so we can come up with ways to balance policies and content, while continuing to pursue relevant editorial subjects.

    I will need to close this up now, for calling out.
    http://www.etsy.com/policy/dosdonts#thecommunity

    Thanks!

    ***************
    Sure, they will discuss it internally. We believe that, along with all the other stupid shit they do that they discuss internally.

  8. bellacruz October 16, 2010 at 5:39 pm #

    How interesting is this storque article?

    Scroll down the comment section beginning with paperandprints comment

    http://www.etsy.com/storque/craftivism/declaring-coral-too-precious-to-wear-10844/#comment-390037

  9. sick of cupcakes October 16, 2010 at 5:46 pm #

    Wow on that storque article!

  10. The Unknown Etsian October 16, 2010 at 6:09 pm #

    Lovely. Free advertising for someone who doesn’t even have an Etsy account. Guess there aren’t any interesting artists on Etsy to write dork articles about.

  11. bellacruz October 16, 2010 at 6:22 pm #

    I sell coral beads in my brick and mortar shop as well as jewelry with coral. I will be more conscious of it in the future, but how sad for etsy shops that sell a lot of coral or coral jewelry or do bead work or whatever with coral==to be called out on such a public forum. And, of course, a thread on the subject was closed for calling out.

  12. PussDaddy October 16, 2010 at 7:02 pm #

    Way to go Vera! Rename that shop VeraWoops why don’t ya?

  13. Life During Wartime October 16, 2010 at 7:59 pm #

    The article is absurd given that Etsy’s very existence has a huge environmental impact. Selling millions of small inexpensive items and moving them around the globe, one at a time, is not a green business model. If VeraWoo (the subject of this callout) sells wholesale to mall kiosks in bulk, that is far better for the environment than having a bunch of American cupcakettes order them one at a time from China. Just sayin’.

    Etsy has been pushing pushing pushing the use of natural materials in crafts, so it comes as no surprise to me that the limo environmentalists are beginning to pressure Etsy over topics like coral. Etsy handled it poorly. The article is calling out some shops, and painted a target on their virtual backs. Shame shame shame.

    Finally, as a vintage dealer I think it’s sad that Etsy doesn’t get that vintage is a non-renewable resource. A seller of spray-painted vintage (listed as vintage) was included in the small number of links to coral-colored items.

    Etsy = hypocritical, hipster, stoopids.

  14. Inspector Yuk October 16, 2010 at 8:54 pm #

    I’ve been making jewelry for 10+ years. I’ve never seen genuine coral for sale anywhere, it’s all dyed white coral, bamboo coral or sponge coral.

    I think a lot of sellers are nervous now because they may be in possession of ‘coral’ and most likely it is not the kind of coral the author of this blog article is talking about, Because of the deceptive practices of the asian bead markets, they simply label it as coral so unknowledgeable buyers think they’re getting the ‘real thing’ for the pittance they’re paying. Like all the fruit quartz names they use and leave off the little bit of information about them actually being glass and not a real gemstone.

    The concern over coral reefs is not new. And sustainable alternatives have been available for quite awhile now. It is quite irresponsible to stir up an anit-coral campaign and not present the other side of the story which most likely small jewelry designers fall into as they are unlikely to run across this type of coral, and if they did, would be unable to afford it.

  15. Life During Wartime October 16, 2010 at 10:39 pm #

    Thanks for the info, Yuk! The Storque article should have explained this. The pledge Etsy seems to be asking its community to make is too broad because it is not explained.

    I am waiting with breath that smells like bait to see what, if anything, Etsy does to make things right for the sellers of legal coral items on the site.

    I wonder if this is the braintrust responsible for allowing an article like that:
    http://www.etsy.com/storque/etsy-news/introducing-our-new-editorial-director-juliet-gorman-9063/

    Juliet ‘I could make that’ Gorman–see the end of the 2nd paragraph. Sheesh. She admits her reach exceeds her grasp.

  16. ScrapMetal October 17, 2010 at 6:09 am #

    The whole Storque article was not well thought out. It’s just another example of Etsy admin hypocrisy that is seen every day. Next they will be telling all us jewelry artists that if we don’t use fair trade gems we are promoting child labor and horrendous working conditions. I am aware of this problem, as are many other jewelry artisans and am trying to buy fair trade when I can. We are caught between a rock and a hard place b/c there are so few fair trade, eco-friendly, or “green” jewelry supplies out there (or that we can afford). Shall we make a bet as to when this topic will rear its ugly head on the Storque or other Etsy admin diatribe?

  17. Abby October 17, 2010 at 6:21 am #

    That article is a good example of why people should not just jump at the chance to sign any petition without doing their research first. There are so many just ready to jump on any bandwagon, yet if you asked them to explain what they are “fighting” for, they would not be able to give you 2 conducive sentences about the cause.

  18. boots October 17, 2010 at 6:31 am #

    honestly i don’t think that many buyers really read the storque and if someone wants coral jewelry then they are going to buy it. Plus I don’t know if etsy allows it, but I have seen plenty of fur items in handmade

  19. detroit October 17, 2010 at 9:38 am #

    LOL – That Storque article (I mean, debacle) is priceless, classic Etsy FUBAR!

    Coral issue aside, why ON EARTH, would they have a mass-produced jewelry retailer, who doesn’t even sell on Etsy (and couldn’t by the TOU), write an article which clearly promotes her business?

    That doesn’t even made economical sense for Etsy? If an Etsy jeweler, at least, had written the article, they might have gotten a few sales (and Etsy would have gotten the commission).

    As it is, they’re promoting a competing business, and telling people to boycott some of their own sellers!!!

    Un-fucking-believable! Were the Etsy employees dropped on their heads en masse as children?

  20. OhNoItsNOT October 17, 2010 at 10:00 am #

    oh, wait, they are still children and have yet to be dropped on their heads. However, the writer of that article should have her head REMOVED.

  21. Em October 17, 2010 at 10:17 am #

    wow, did they really close the comments without even acknowledging that they botched this attempt at looking like environmentalists? wtf….

  22. Whisperia October 17, 2010 at 11:32 am #

    17 | boots
    October 17, 2010 at 6:31 am

    honestly i don’t think that many buyers really read the storque
    —————————————–

    Agreed. I’m a buyer only and I never read Storque articles. The only reason I read this one was because of seeing it mentioned both here and on Etsy Bitch. I rarely read the forums, either. I see them as a sort of seller’s playground that isn’t really meant for me. I don’t think this article will have terribly far-reaching consequences to overall sales on the site, or to the jewelery designers who have coral merchandise.

    It’s outrageous that sellers who have coral items in their shops are getting abusive convos. That’s ridiculous. It’s a personal pet peeve of mine when people read one article (i.e. one point of view that may or may not be accurate, or may or may not contain a bias) about an issue and fly off the handle without looking into it further or doing any research of their own. It’s one thing to be concerned about an issue that you haven’t previously thought of before and make a choice about changing your behaviour because of it, but it’s quite another to hop onto a bandwagon and start throwing stones, if you will excuse the cliches. I’m pretty disgusted right now.

  23. OhNoItsNOT October 17, 2010 at 1:02 pm #

    “anee

    Hello!

    The spirit of this post was to educate and hopefully provoke reflection about an issue of which there’s not much awareness. This is one person’s point of view – an artist’s approach to sourcing materials. It was not Etsy’s intention to suggest that others are not doing the right thing when choosing certain materials for their art or craft.

    Thank you all for sharing your ideas. The range of opinions expressed here is proof that we host a truly diverse community. We’ll close the comments now, to keep the discussion from straying off the subject. Thanks!”

    (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

    “Hello”, “THANKS!” drives me fucking insane. Thanks a whole lot, people who keep the seats warm in Etsy HQ. All the shit you said in between wasn’t even a half-assed attempt to address concerns.
    Yes, we know what your intentions are/ “She wasn’t good, but she had good intentions.” — Lyle Lovett

    Take your good intentions and shove them up where the pole should be.

  24. Inspector Yuk October 17, 2010 at 1:26 pm #

    An issue of which has little awareness? Maybe to you blockheads, but anyone who has been making jewelry and knows their materials has been aware of this for a very long time.

    Exactly where is the education in this article? Where are the references to alternative sources or sited references to back up the author’s statements?

    OMG, I am flabbergasted.

  25. Life During Wartime October 17, 2010 at 3:32 pm #

    What percent of Etsy jewelry makers use endangered coral? It’s not part of the best selling all metal jewelry. And I doubt the buyers who have purchased thousands of cheap leather bracelets from China are planning to buy endangered coral.

    For Etsy, this was a non-issue.

    Betcha the guest blogger has some connection with one of Etsy’s new staff members, and wanted some nice fresh links for her jewelry business.

    Parasite.

  26. eyefortineye October 17, 2010 at 3:39 pm #

    *sigh* continuing the march forward toward etsy-bay

  27. Life During Wartime October 17, 2010 at 4:20 pm #

    The Fitz and Floyd Omnibus Roadside Diner pieces are from the mid-90s. That’s more than 5 years old, but still not vintage. Most sellers of these items on Ebay give the date. For vintage, and all collectibles, Ebay is far more trustworthy than Etsy!

    There is no way Etsy will do anything about vintage-related TOU violations. Among the front page, the Storque, and the Finds email, there are between a handful and a dozen TOU violating ‘vintage’ items featured daily.

    Good call out, though! I would not count on anything in that shop being more han 20 years old. Seller shows no marks, and gives no date information. Caveat Emptor!!!

  28. The Unknown Etsian October 17, 2010 at 6:44 pm #

    File this one under “the meek may inherit the earth but the shrew collects the rent”.
    I just emailed Etsy asking for a refund on my deactivated coral jewelry items.

  29. PussDaddy October 17, 2010 at 11:27 pm #

    17 | ScrapMetal
    October 17, 2010 at 6:09 am

    The whole Storque article was not well thought out. It’s just another example of Etsy admin hypocrisy that is seen every day. Next they will be telling all us jewelry artists that if we don’t use fair trade gems we are promoting child labor and horrendous working conditions. I am aware of this problem, as are many other jewelry artisans and am trying to buy fair trade when I can. We are caught between a rock and a hard place b/c there are so few fair trade, eco-friendly, or “green” jewelry supplies out there (or that we can afford). Shall we make a bet as to when this topic will rear its ugly head on the Storque or other Etsy admin diatribe?

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    This almost reminds me how people feel about Walmart and the people who shop there because some people shop there because it is all they can afford.

  30. PussDaddy October 17, 2010 at 11:29 pm #

    19 | boots
    October 17, 2010 at 6:31 am

    honestly i don’t think that many buyers really read the storque and if someone wants coral jewelry then they are going to buy it. Plus I don’t know if etsy allows it, but I have seen plenty of fur items in handmade

    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    Not to mention dead butterflies and insects, animal skulls and bones, and stuff like that.

  31. detroit October 18, 2010 at 5:20 am #

    The Unknown Etsian
    October 17, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    I just emailed Etsy asking for a refund on my deactivated coral jewelry items.
    ___________________

    Ha ha! Awesome!

  32. Wolf October 18, 2010 at 1:24 pm #

    29 | The Unknown Etsian
    October 17, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    File this one under “the meek may inherit the earth but the shrew collects the rent”.
    I just emailed Etsy asking for a refund on my deactivated coral jewelry items.

    * * * *

    You’ll have to leave a comment letting us know if you get a response.}:P

  33. PissOff November 12, 2010 at 9:56 am #

    Inspector Yuk, Vera Woo is not the same seller selling the bracelets on ebay you moron, she is buying them on ebay and selling them on ETSY< pull your head out of your ass, and look

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