Reader comment- violavintage, jorjaclare, iconicstyles

23 Nov

We are not sure about this one but we will let this reader have the table…

 

These shops are running a monopoly on Etsy. The original store
Viola Vintage stays within Etsy’s rule about running multiple shops:
http://www.etsy.com/shop/violavintage she has link to her new shop as required:
http://www.etsy.com/shop/jorjaclare be sure to note the banner on jojaclare
Now she has opened another shop called Iconic Styles at cheaper prices but most of the same stuff. I flagged a couple and they are gone:
http://www.etsy.com/shop/iconicstyles

I messaged the shop and point blank asked if they were one in the same. A NO after to attempts is all I received. How do I know for sure aside for the items, the banner, and conveniently being from Thailand? If you go to the link of their web album you will find their last name. Which are the same as the last name as their family blog.

I tried a final message to her and asked if the answer is no why do they have the same location and same last name. Of course I received no response. All they have to do is put a link to their other shops in their profile and they would be within the rules. They have no profile or policies in this new shop. I don’t get it except that they want to monopolize these style of clothing.

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74 Responses to “Reader comment- violavintage, jorjaclare, iconicstyles”

  1. Susan November 23, 2010 at 3:08 pm #

    Georgia (the mom) runs ViolaVintage and references all her family and her friend “Kok” who “helps”. She never used to reference who was actually making the stuff but with the new Etsy collective rules or lack of rules, I guess she was coached on how to write her profile to keep within the rules. The family includes her daughter, who is the Nicki that is running IconicStyles. Can someone be part of a collective of one shop and yet run their own?

    Georgia forgot to tell her daughter that Vogue Patterns does not like sellers who rip off their photos to use as their own
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/60764490/custom-made-vintage-inspired-cocktail
    is Vogue 1714 http://voguepatterns.mccall.com/v1174-products-11082.php?page_id=858
    And Georgia had to remove these same photos from ViolaVintage way back when. I guess I’m sending more email to Vogue.

    er, yeah, poor Kok probably doesn’t know or care that he’s copying Vogue.

    The other vintage rip off seller has been deleted from etsy, finally.

  2. Susan November 23, 2010 at 3:10 pm #

    oops, Vogue 1174. The link is correct however.

  3. WangFu November 23, 2010 at 5:04 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/CelebStylistSells?

  4. WhistlingDixie November 23, 2010 at 5:14 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/62808718/steven-by-steve-madden-platform-heels

    Yes, of course those are handmade Steve Madden shoes.
    Fuck.

  5. Abby November 23, 2010 at 5:58 pm #

    There is a jewelry maker on Etsy who is best friends with the redhead from Mad Men. I will find her and let her know the shop is using these pictures:

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/60472855/custom-made-pencil-vintage-inspired

    I am sure they can afford to pay Christina Hendricks for her photos.

  6. Abby November 23, 2010 at 5:59 pm #

    Here is her best’s friend’s Etsy shop, let her know about it so she can tell Christina:

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/Blackbirddesignhouse?section_id=6139269#

  7. burnt toast November 23, 2010 at 6:09 pm #

    nice work Abby- i think i have seen a few other photos of her on Etsy (not her friends shop) and every one of those people need to pull those photos.

    in the USA photos are automatically copyright protected and the copyright belongs to the photographer unless a release or permission has been granted. unless these artisans on Etsy have asked for use- they are in violation of coyright law.

    and there are THOUSANDS of offenders on ETSY.

    maybe I should start a site that calls out all the idiots that are ripping off disney, etc…

    etsy is a flipping mess.

  8. Abby November 23, 2010 at 6:15 pm #

    Thanks. I don’t know where I got jewelry maker from, lol! But she knits pretty things.

  9. kitten November 23, 2010 at 10:03 pm #

    ethanollie is selling these… weren’t these a subject of a blog post awhile back?

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/62735540/industrial-scope

    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/38230072

  10. kitten November 23, 2010 at 10:05 pm #

    Abby

    Thanks. I don’t know where I got jewelry maker from, lol! But she knits pretty things.
    _______________________

    I remember 2 friends that were going to be listed in magazines… one knitted or something and the other is a jewelry maker – made the peapod necklace that was in People magazine.

  11. Sydney November 23, 2010 at 11:04 pm #

    What do you think of this shop?

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/amityshark

    over 200 sales, but only 26 total feedback?

    I think those tiki men are kinda cool, but I have a bad feeling about the shop.

  12. megansbeadeddesigns November 24, 2010 at 7:44 am #

    Sydney,

    and of that 26 feedback it’s only 77% positive, even the positive responses all say something similar about the item taking forever….

  13. Susan November 24, 2010 at 10:48 am #

    hmmm, didn’t catch this first time round. The husband is Nick. I’m thinking the daughter was Nikki. So is the actual seller on IconicStyles really Nick Fowler passing himself off as a girl? Shady, very shady.

  14. Inspector Yuk November 24, 2010 at 12:07 pm #

    Well, according to the chester chronicle write up, Georgia Fowler, there is no daughter Nikki here is a quote from the article: “In turn, Georgia has passed on her skills to daughters, Candace, 17, and Lara, 15.”

    Funny that there is no mention whatsoever of Thailand in that article. Or really no information as to who makes the dresses. Passing on sewing skills doesn’t necessarily mean the daughters help with the dressmaking.

    I would suspect that everyone lives in the UK and she outsources to a factory in Thailand, that’s why everything comes from there.

    Oh, here’s the article: http://www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/entertainment-chester/2010/01/14/women2day-fashion-vintage-fashion-with-a-modern-twist-59067-25593218/

  15. Home Sewing Business November 24, 2010 at 12:40 pm #

    For information as to why they are in Thailand, a read of the family blog is helpful http://fowlerstravels.blogspot.com/

    I had flagged this shop to Etsy many times. All I noticed is that they then included the entire family in the business description. Based on the number of orders and complexity of some of the garments, it is impossible to produce that many items as well as continue to do what they went to Thailand for in the first place.

  16. Derp November 24, 2010 at 4:15 pm #

    from ethanollie’s shop – Vintage Cabochon Ring – http://www.etsy.com/listing/61816898/vintage-cabochon-ring

    Um… that looks like an old crappy mood ring to me. Nice racket, selling it for $22!

  17. WangFu November 24, 2010 at 4:27 pm #

    This is on the front page right now.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/54083454/reserved-sold-to-victoria-the-most?ref=fp_treasury_5

  18. Life During Wartime November 24, 2010 at 5:33 pm #

    Ha ha, Derp! An old mood ring is exactly what that looks like. I have its twin sitting right here in front of me. Just like the one in that shop, it has sparkly areas where the reactive ‘mood’ material is flaking off. Mine hasn’t changed color since the year I bought it in the mid 70s, and its no longer working does NOT add to its charm. My ring is good for scrap sterling silver, but isn’t collectible.

  19. Life During Wartime November 24, 2010 at 5:43 pm #

    WangFu, the wiring and plug on that lamp look new in the photos. If the seller couldn’t translate the inscription on the base, why didn’t she just copy the words into her listing? Oh, and if it is ‘wrought iron’ then it isn’t old. An old lamp like that would have been statuary bronze, I think.

  20. kitten November 24, 2010 at 5:45 pm #

    Yep that lamp looks new and inexpensive. Looks like something you would buy at a Kirklands in a shopping mall.

  21. um no November 24, 2010 at 9:55 pm #

    Twilight Distinction is selling her resale stuff here now, mixed in with some handmade stuff for good measure.

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/Rapunzelsgold

  22. Inspector Yuk November 24, 2010 at 11:12 pm #

    | Home Sewing Business
    November 24, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    For information as to why they are in Thailand, a read of the family blog is helpful http://fowlerstravels.blogspot.com/

    I had flagged this shop to Etsy many times. All I noticed is that they then included the entire family in the business description. Based on the number of orders and complexity of some of the garments, it is impossible to produce that many items as well as continue to do what they went to Thailand for in the first place.
    ____________________________________________

    Well, isn’t that interesting. They are there in a missionary capacity, staying in hotels, traveling from city to city, lounging on beaches, eating in restaraunts, when DO they spend time sewing dresses?

    And such Christian people, don’t they know lying is a sin? They said that the 3rd shop isn’t theirs? Yet we know it is? There is proof.

    No way, no how does this little family of 4 in Thailand for missionary work have the time or the resources to be making all this clothing themselves. What a crock of shit.

  23. WangFu November 25, 2010 at 6:08 am #

    Well, not the mention the lamp is marked SOLD in the title…

  24. The Unknown Etsian November 25, 2010 at 6:47 am #

    Well, isn’t that interesting. They are there in a missionary capacity, staying in hotels, traveling from city to city, lounging on beaches, eating in restaraunts, when DO they spend time sewing dresses?
    And such Christian people, don’t they know lying is a sin? They said that the 3rd shop isn’t theirs? Yet we know it is? There is proof.
    No way, no how does this little family of 4 in Thailand for missionary work have the time or the resources to be making all this clothing themselves. What a crock of shit.
    ___
    Yes but it makes them sound like such wonderful people!!!

  25. disgusting November 25, 2010 at 8:25 am #

    these people make me ill on so many different levels. sorry, but as a seamstress it would be VERY difficult to offer all of those dresses, options, and fabric choices – I KNOW –
    and half of these photos are not even theirs and PLEASE – there is no way this lady makes “re-productions” of these gowns all by herself – that takes TIME and a ton of skill, and she would be in the studio working ALL day, but SHE has the time to make a dress that can take days to produce and she does this all by herself while she home schools the kids, has cookouts and swims, does mission work, and blogs about her laid back beach life all while producing intricate detailed clothing? MY ASS!

    example:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/48105424/custom-made-ethereal-silk-chiffon

    http://www.thewhitedressbytheshore.com/modern_macy.htm

  26. disgusting November 25, 2010 at 8:28 am #

    http://picasaweb.google.com/violavintage

    are you KIDDING me?
    because when you are jumping around from country to country it is REALLY difficult to move your wherehouse stock of fabric along with you.

  27. disgusting November 25, 2010 at 8:36 am #

    the dresses and skirts she makes (shown on her blog) look VERY different from what she has to offer in her shop. they also require a lof of different techniques. MOST designers/seamstresses stick to one “style” of clothing. i think she may have a few dresses and skirts in there that she made, but – hmm. i want to see all of these custom dresses she hand makes- and why does she have other designers dresses posted on there?

    http://violavintage.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-08-18T01%3A14%3A00-07%3A00&max-results=7

  28. losinghope November 25, 2010 at 8:57 am #

    All the regulars are on the FP today. Must be etsy’s special gift to them because they’re exposure is less with 1/2 hour treasuries. Another stick it to the masses reminder that some people are just special!!! GAG!

  29. disgusting November 25, 2010 at 9:08 am #

    oh yea- BTW- iconic styles HAS to be by the same owner…
    they use almost IDENTICAL text in their descriptions AND offer the same fabric choices with that link to picasa

    one would NOT use an unknown fabric list for their garments.

    what happened inside this womans brain that made her think that anyof what she is doing is “god” like?

  30. Life During Wartime November 25, 2010 at 1:09 pm #

    In my experience having had shops on more than a handful of sites, those sellers who parade their religion in promotion for their business are the ones to watch out for. They are far more likely to be misrepresenting what they sell, be it not handmade by them or undisclosed antique reproductions.

  31. Inspector Yuk November 25, 2010 at 1:16 pm #

    All I can think of is that saying “do as I say, not as I do”.

    Of course you can speculate a hundred different scenarios, but she could be lying about the missionary thing altogether and because of her background as a seamstress, maybe she moved the family to Thailand to be a designer for a factory.

    Or maybe she really is a missionary (of sorts) and in order to live there and have an income to sustain a whole family, they’ve set up these reselling shops to supplement their missionary stipend. Sure makes it easy when you live in the same country that manufactures the products you claim to be making.

    I just get really suspicious when all these articles, blog, newspaper, etc really don’t mention much more than her background as a seamstress. Nothing about being an independent small business, working out of her home or small brick and mortar store, nothing about her process or production, it just seems very odd to me not to play up these handmade qualities.

    And I find it odd that for their main purpose of going there being to ‘spread the word’, the blog is very lacking in much detail about that.

    I don’t know, I smell another ‘Nutmeg’.

  32. madmomma November 25, 2010 at 7:00 pm #

    Inspector Yuk-
    What is a “nutmeg” ?

  33. The Unknown Etsian November 25, 2010 at 7:10 pm #

    I think you are right about the nutmeg. The photo I saw of the woman on the blog looked like a grandmother figure to the girls instead of the mother type.
    People that do missionary work do just that. They don’t claim to be designers.

  34. First Time Calling Out November 26, 2010 at 8:38 am #

    Another thing about the tiki seller is that I think all the feedback — good *and* bad — is fake (sock puppet accounts.) Every single feedback-leaving buyer only has feedback related to their purchase from this seller (that is, the tiki necklace is their only purchase). Weird.

    http://www.etsy.com/people/amityshark/feedback?page=1

  35. kitten November 26, 2010 at 8:50 am #

    First Time Calling Out said:

    Another thing about the tiki seller is that I think all the feedback — good *and* bad — is fake (sock puppet accounts.) Every single feedback-leaving buyer only has feedback related to their purchase from this seller (that is, the tiki necklace is their only purchase). Weird.

    http://www.etsy.com/people/amityshark/feedback?page=1
    ______________________

    I’ve seen some crazy things on Etsy, but highly doubt this seller left themselves bad feedback!

    I have a lot of buyers that join Etsy the day they purchased my item. Many don’t ever leave feedback, but the ones who do have only left feedback (and probably only purchased one time on Etsy) from me. Not that unusual.

  36. First Time Calling Out November 26, 2010 at 1:47 pm #

    Ah, there goes my conspiracy theory down the drain, then.
    Most of my buyers have had other purchases, or subsequent purchases. Will have to come up with an alternate theory… :^)

  37. Life During Wartime November 26, 2010 at 2:29 pm #

    I don’t ‘get’ the amityshark shop. But then I am not a huge teevee sitcom fan.

    I dunno why, but I seriously doubt that a teevee show would create its own mold to make its own tiki pendants when they were commercially available in lots of sizes, colors, materials, etc. Unless making jewelry was part of the episode storyline? And why are all the items tagged both Brady Bunch AND Scrubs? My BS detector is ringing.

  38. EtsyDontCare November 26, 2010 at 3:04 pm #

    Etsy doesn’t care. You figure this Iconic Styles has made 20 sales in less then a month. That is money in Etsy’s pocket.

    It really weird that Viola Vintage shops doesn’t have any pictures “HER” own work. Look at her sold items:
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/violavintage/sold

    Lots of blanks the only time I see her work is if a customer puts an appreciation picture on it.

    This one is really gross…not the dress (well I don’t care for it but it isn’t gross), but look at the floors and walls:
    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/37834561

    With the amount of sales you would think her pictures of dresses would reflect what she has made. I’ve seen lots of listing that have a celebrity or pattern for the first picture let’s face it they are clickable, but for these shops that do their own work they at least have an example of what they actually made with it. Maybe she should send her workers a digital camera to take some pictures of their hard work while she plays at the beach!

    I can’t say for sure but I would guess that Kok hires seamstresses in Thailand to do the sewing and she markets, takes care of e-mails, payments of course and now sells them on Etsy with three shops now. I just hope with her “Christianity” she is at least paying them a fair wage!

  39. kitten November 26, 2010 at 3:05 pm #

    First Time Calling Out said:

    Ah, there goes my conspiracy theory down the drain, then.
    Most of my buyers have had other purchases, or subsequent purchases. Will have to come up with an alternate theory… :^)
    _________________________

    Oh who knows, maybe they DID leave themselves bad feedback to throw us off the track! lol

    Life During Wartime said:

    And why are all the items tagged both Brady Bunch AND Scrubs? My BS detector is ringing.
    __________________________

    There was an episode of Brady Bunch when they were in Hawaii that had a tiki idol with a curse or something. I think this is supposed to be a replica, which apparently makes it so much for exciting.

    The Scrubs tag, I don’t have a clue because I’ve never watched more than 2 minutes of it.

    Maybe I should be embarassed to say this, but I have the entire DVD collection of The Brady Bunch, complete in lime green shag box. 🙂

  40. kitten November 26, 2010 at 3:06 pm #

    That should of been…

    I think this is supposed to be a replica, which apparently makes it so much MORE exciting.

  41. EtsyDontCare November 26, 2010 at 7:44 pm #

    I forgot to add how can a mother and two teen daughters actually offer “Wholesale” and still do all the orders they get from Etsy? Even if you managed to do a dress a day most wholesalers want volume not an item here and there or maybe I’m wrong on that.

  42. kitten November 26, 2010 at 9:11 pm #

    EtsyDontCare said:

    This one is really gross…not the dress (well I don’t care for it but it isn’t gross), but look at the floors and walls:
    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/37834561
    _____________________________________

    OMG is that black mold??

  43. EtsyDontCare November 26, 2010 at 9:14 pm #

    OMG is that black mold??

    Maybe that is why her shops never post their own creations. I have no idea what it is, but if it is mold they should think about increasing their wages!

  44. losinghope November 27, 2010 at 3:09 am #

    I think it’s just dirt. That rug is disgusting. She should have cropped the bottom of the pic out.

  45. Home Sewing Business November 27, 2010 at 8:55 am #

    >>>>>>>I can’t say for sure but I would guess that Kok hires seamstresses in Thailand to do the sewing and she markets, takes care of e-mails, payments of course and now sells them on Etsy with three shops now. I just hope with her “Christianity” she is at least paying them a fair wage!

    _____________________

    They’re Jehovah Witnesses.

    According to their blog they’ve got visas to be in Thailand until about Feb 2011. Besides the question of whether they can work on visas while being missionaries in a foreign country, I’m wondering what they will do with their business when they have to leave. Will they have their converted Thai workers continue the sweatshop with “Kok” being in charge and take orders worldwide?

    “Handmade” indeed!

    Bottom Line: Etsy doesn’t care.

  46. EtsyDontCare November 27, 2010 at 11:27 am #

    Not once on her family blog does she mention what a busy day she had SEWING!

  47. EtsyDontCare November 27, 2010 at 3:17 pm #

    What talent family WOW I’m so impressed <— Sarcasm. Not only do they design and make clothes but they also create jewelry:
    http://www.etsy.com/people/TheBeachBums

    Wait read on! OMG I can't believe this. How are these shops still on Etsy?????

    On her front page she states this:
    These are not made by me but by a local friend and her family who live in the North of Thailand. They are very high quality and I know you will love them. This family don't have any internet skills and hardly speak any English (good for me to practice my Thai!). These products are truly gorgeous!

    But if you read her profile it is a different story:

    We are a family of beach bums, Nick, Georgia, Candace and Lara. In our life together we have had the privilege of living on or near some of the worlds most gorgeous beaches in Florida, Wales, England and now Thailand.

    We are also a very crafty clan and love to make stuff. Candace and Georgia make jewelery. Lara draws and Nick does the drilling and technical stuff.

    What a crock of bull-hit!!!! No worries Ms. Georgia Etsy doesn't care!!!!

  48. EtsyDontCare November 27, 2010 at 3:54 pm #

    Disregard there is a section of beachbums that they don’t make:
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/TheBeachBums?section_id=7146950

    I misread it, I still don’t believe they make anything in any of their four shops though.

  49. imwithya November 28, 2010 at 10:37 pm #

    They definitely don’t make those bags. Other resellers from Thailand are selling them too.

    http://www.etsy.com/search_results.php?search_query=hill+tribe+bag&search_type=handmade

  50. Susan November 29, 2010 at 8:37 am #

    I’m also interested in how they are managing to be in business while on a mission to Thailand. That sort of thing can get their visa revoked and ejected from the country I suppose.

    I just think that they’re a giant reseller, having made a few connections overseas to their supplier. The same connections that other Hill Tribe Bag sellers have made too, obviously!

    Oh dear, Etsy, to think I once knew you!

  51. EtsyDontCare November 29, 2010 at 1:32 pm #

    Let’s see now Georgia and her family run how many shops?

    Claims these are her daughters shop in some shops or lists them as her shops in her other shops:
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/simplesurfer
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/thebeachbums

    We have three shops for vintage, celebrity, or hippy style clothing
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/violavintage
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/JorjaClare
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/iconicstyles

    As it was pointed out the bags are made in a factory not from a friend up the street who poor thing doesn’t know how to use a computer or has access to the internet. How kind of them to help her!

    So what is she going to next? Who from this wonderful talented God fearing family is going to open a new shop and claim to be able to do the multitudes of orders of the combined shops? hmmm. Maybe little Lara who draws according to her thebeachbums shop will be opening a new art shop selling her wonderful prints, or maybe some homemade cards from her lovely artwork. Maybe daddy can sell some of his photography since is a driller for jewelry, a photographer and web designer. Oh oh I could be giving her some ideas here.

  52. Life During Wartime November 29, 2010 at 2:07 pm #

    Just to let you all know, when I clicked on imwithya’s link to the search for Hill Tribe Handbags, Etsy displayed my location (city and state) on the pages…even though I am not signed in. Etsy is reading all of our IP addys, all the time.

  53. EtsyDontCare November 29, 2010 at 7:10 pm #

    Interesting her 18 year old daughter’s shop has the exact same OOAK items as this shop also from Thailand:
    http://www.etsy.com/people/cookiechocchip

    C’mon Etsy get a clue!

  54. madmomma November 30, 2010 at 10:06 pm #

    Just to let you all know, when I clicked on imwithya’s link to the search for Hill Tribe Handbags, Etsy displayed my location (city and state) on the pages…even though I am not signed in. Etsy is reading all of our IP addys, all the time.

    oh yeah- and if you log in under another users account from that ip address they will be knocking on your door claiming you are a sock puppet.

    etsy is EVIL like that.

  55. EtsyDontCare December 1, 2010 at 8:38 am #

    All the Etsy admins would have to do is check to see if each of Georgia’s shops payments go to the same Pay Pal account e-mail.

    I’m sure they haven’t bothered to get numerous Pay Pall accounts for these shops. Plus Pay Pal is a bit stricter so they would have to have numerous bank accounts to be verified. If you verified one bank account you can’t verify it with a different e-mail on Pay Pal.

    Etsy does not allow the same e-mail if you open more than one shop but you can select any e-mail to set up your Pay Pal payments.

    With all the free e-mails you can get it is easy to have mulitple shops. I think this is dumb because it would be nice to be billed on one e-mail account but I’m lazy that way.

  56. stupidityandbeyond! December 1, 2010 at 8:45 pm #

    she’s also stealing pictures and designs from stop staring.

  57. EtsyDontCare December 2, 2010 at 9:23 pm #

    Here is a UK shop she’s stealing from. I wonder if she is just buying from their store because she in now offering the belts on her iconic styles shop:
    http://www.vivienofholloway.com/en/

  58. get a life, LOSERS December 2, 2010 at 9:54 pm #

    You guys are creepy
    why do you even care this much???
    ALL OF YOU, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND GET A LIFE!!!!

  59. etsycallout December 2, 2010 at 9:59 pm #

    But haven’t you seen our great graphic on the side?

  60. EtsyDontCare December 2, 2010 at 10:01 pm #

    lol I just sent Viola Vintage a message. Looks like she got it!

  61. jenn December 3, 2010 at 5:19 am #

    hey….. got information that you guys are talking about my etsy store through google analytics.. do you all have a problem with my store? i am a legit and run a great store.. my etsy store is successful and my clients are very happy with me…

  62. EtsyDontCare December 3, 2010 at 8:09 am #

    jenn on the front page it states this:
    GA is flawed. If someone visits here then to your Etsy shop it counts as a referral. No more panic emails, it does not mean you are featured. Just use the search first. End of PSA.

    You haven’t been featured!

  63. JealousHatingBitchWhoHasNoLife December 3, 2010 at 12:22 pm #

    I like that ViolaVintage commented on this thread. This thread will show up if anyone googles her shop.

  64. imwithya December 3, 2010 at 1:23 pm #

    Jenn- If the callout blog shows up in your GA it doesn’t necessarily mean your shop was talked about here. It might only mean that somebody clicked a link to etsy from here, then eventually ended up at your shop. I don’t know what your shop is though. Did you search the blog for your shop name?

  65. Susan December 6, 2010 at 9:18 am #

    This is very titty

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/41030798/half-price-medium-sexy-gothic-hippie?ref=em

  66. EtsyDontCare December 6, 2010 at 2:53 pm #

    If you read her blog http://fowlerstravels.blogspot.com/ she says this:
    “Starting this week we will be changing a few things and planning a two month adventure trip before we go back to Blighty.”

    How can you be traveling so much and still be sewing? Does she pack around machines and fabrics to these places or is it SHE JUST DOESN’T MAKE the items she lists! What a load of crap.

    I find it so offensive to work my *ss off getting my orders done in time just to have to compete with shops like these that are not HOME-MADE. It isn’t fair…but then I know ETSY DON’T CARE or shops like this would be banned and banned by IP not just closing the shop so they can open another!

  67. EtsyDontCare December 6, 2010 at 2:56 pm #

    An added note none of the shops are in vacation mode while they are on vacation. So who is making the jewelry, who is making the OOK ugly dolls and key chains we know who ISN’T.

  68. JealousHatingBitchWhoHasNoLife December 13, 2010 at 9:25 am #

    Looks like Viola Vintage is being repositioned as the wedding dress shop which means Iconic Styles is definitely the spin off. Perhaps this is all part of the set up to being able to manage the business once they have to leave Thailand. I wonder if she’s going to do the same thing that Sew Delicious did? Take lots of advance orders and payments for wedding dresses, and then disappaear with all the money? Without connecting Iconic Styles to Viola Vintage, she can walk away from Viola Vintage.

    They’re apparently able to shoot home movies of the rain and Lara’s work on a movie, and put them on Youtube.

    How hard would it be to shoot a clip of Georgia at her sewing machine? Georgia sewing at her machine??? Georgia and the whole family sewing at the machines???????

  69. Becky December 22, 2010 at 10:50 pm #

    this is actually bullsh*t… I ordered my bridesmaid dresses from violavintage for 165 each, and the exact dress is listed in iconic styles at 88 each…. I wish I knew this was all a ridiculous scam. fortunately i did receive all 3 dresses and they were great quality, but I feel embarrassed that this was going on and i had no clue

  70. EtsyDontCare December 22, 2010 at 11:35 pm #

    Don’t be Becky…let’s just hope that through her missionary that she is actually helping people in Thailand instead of just banking on the actual seamstresses. Maybe this is her and her families way of letting some of the locals make some money.

    Ok so I maybe a bit naive but I do believe in trying to find the good in people.

    Her family is now heading towards India in Feb or March…could this mean a new shop? I will have to check to see if her shops are in vacation mode as she travels. Or maybe she totes her machines and fabric along for the ride.

  71. Velamint December 23, 2010 at 3:19 pm #

    http://www.stopstaringclothing.com/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=200
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/60471809/1930s-1940s-pin-up-wiggle-dress-sizes-2
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/62817078/custom-made-pencil-wiggle-vintage

    I wonder what Stop Staring would think of this.

    Noticed this, too:
    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/35214722
    http://www.yourbridalwear.com/

    And this WangFu posted:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/54083454/reserved-sold-to-victoria-the-most?ref=fp_treasury_5
    Whoa, ha ha! Those phillips head screws! LOLZ! I feel bad for the buyer.
    Tons of not-old in her solds, too. She is severely clueless! Or a big liar.

  72. susan May 26, 2011 at 7:02 pm #

    I checked out ViolaVintage today, the shop is closed. She had a message previously that she would be on vacation as moving back to Europe, but I guess she’s just packed it in.

    What is interesting is the other shop that she denied knowledge of, but was “owned” by someone in the family as the owner was listed as Nikki Fowler. I sort of suspected that it was someone in the JW Thai community that was going to take over the “collective” and continue on in Georgia’s footsteps, and if it was not one of Georgia’s own shops she *had* to have known about it.

    IconicStyles has completely disappeared from Etsy, I hate when Etsy deletes bad shops but my newest favorite tool is http://www.tools4etsy.com Take a look at IconicStyles consolidated feedback.
    http://www.tools4etsy.com/Feedback/As-Seller/iconicstyles?page=1

    Bad bad and bad.

    The thing about Viola Vintage was that although she was obviously not making the stuff herself, she wouldn’t send out bad product, or if she did have complaints she quickly cancelled the sale and refunded so that it would disappear off her feedback. I sort of wonder what happened with Iconic Styles. Did they not care about quality? Or is it indeed the Fowler family, and left items to be drop shipped after they’d left the country. We’ll never know, but this was one of the more entertaining callouts of ECO, enough so that I made a not to look at it some months later.

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