BeanieShop, miyabags

18 Dec

Very sad reader comment-


“Handmade” mohawk hats are handmade – in Nepal

Arrived with tag featuring model # “I-H” and “Made in Nepal.”

Items came from New Jersey

I’m a new and soon to be gone Etsy buyer. I didn’t realize Etsy was a cheap Import/Export market.

If I wanted that I’d go to the local flea market and buy cheap cra# for cheap prices – not pay a premium to support home crafters who aren’t.




35 Responses to “BeanieShop, miyabags”

  1. Wolf December 18, 2010 at 10:11 am #

    I would hope that before that buyer leaves for good, they also send a copy of their comment to Etsy themselves, with all the pertinent details. Then maybe Etsy will realise that allowing cheap ass resellers to stay, isn’t such a hot idea after all.

    I know, I know, don’t hold my breath about that last part.

  2. thisetsychick December 18, 2010 at 10:41 am #

    Here she goes again! Peaches4Me/SparklePeach/DearestClementine/GardenSecrets has a new negative about non-delivery. Is this ringing a bell for anyone?

    How many times is she going to do this to customers? It’s ridiculous and at this point way beyond innocently getting behind in orders and being late. It looks like she’s blatantly stealing now. WAKE UP ETSY!

  3. sick of cupcakes December 18, 2010 at 11:50 am #

    Re the beanie shop, her crocheted headbands are in fact, knit.

  4. sick of cupcakes December 18, 2010 at 11:52 am #

    ….as is this…


  5. sick of cupcakes December 18, 2010 at 11:53 am #

    …I’m sorry for the multiple posts but everything she claims is crocheted is knit.

  6. um_ya December 18, 2010 at 12:43 pm #

    … and notice how the mohawk hats are not listed as being knit or crocheted? Because the seller can’t tell the difference. The word ‘knit’ neither appears in the listing or in the tags.

  7. already gone December 18, 2010 at 2:29 pm #

    And 72 sales in a year! I realize that’s not huge but it’s a hell of a lot more than I sold in the 4 friggen years that I was at etsy! This is exactly why I left, customers are starting to catch on that their goods are not handmade and that pisses them off! I didn’t want people looking at my shop having to wonder if my goods were indeed made by me, or some extreme mark up of mass produced crap. And they still are able to undercut those of us who do make our own pieces. AAAARRRGH, it makes me want to scream.

  8. linda December 18, 2010 at 4:14 pm #

    and garden secrets is now mysteriously on vacation?

  9. tenley December 18, 2010 at 6:19 pm #

    I buy stuff that I know is handmade. Its hard sometimes to get around the resellers but usually I can tell the good from the bad with a little research. I haven’t left Etsy yet, as I would like to enjoy the true handmade stuff before Etsy becomes a thing of the past.
    i’ve been following you all about the gardensecrets lady. Is there not a law somewhere that can stop her from taking people’s money and not delivering a product? Surely, she will receive a letter from someone’s lawyer eventually. She needs to go to jail for a while for fraud.

  10. Andrea December 18, 2010 at 8:39 pm #

    Of course, all new buyers on etsy know about COE. Why would a new buyer leave a comment here and not leave a neg feedback? I don’t doubt that the hats are made in Nepal but seems a bit dramatic.

  11. Derp December 19, 2010 at 1:41 am #

    I hate to be a dick, but anyone who thinks they’re getting something handknit with a fair-isle pattern like that for that price is uninformed at best. No real artisan would sell something that complicated to knit for under 30 bucks!
    (I’m not defending the seller, but C’MON. There’s a point where the buyers really needs to inform themselves)

  12. sick of cupcakes December 19, 2010 at 5:58 am #

    Ya, that hat would take me days to complete. I don’t think buyers care who makes their crap.

  13. anonymous December 19, 2010 at 8:02 am #

    i heard about this from the buyer on a message board. they buyer had no idea it wasn’t handmade, or that a pattern that complicated would command a premium. i know nothing of knitting, i didn’t know that either, so i think it’s unfair to place blame on her.

    the buyer did submit an email to etsy, who asked for pics of the nepal tag. the seller finally got back to the buyer and claimed they didn’t know this wasn’t allowed. i don’t buy it. anyway, etsy now has crystal clear evidence that this is a reseller, and yet the shop is still open. gee, can we all hope this seller mouths off in a forum? that way they would be shut down in a second. (eyeroll). thanks etsy for preserving our handmade marketplace yet again.

  14. em December 19, 2010 at 11:55 am #

    GardenSecrets racking up more negs as the days go by…

    I feel bad for those unsuspecting buyers.

    Wonder how long it’ll take ’til we find her new shop.

  15. kitten December 19, 2010 at 1:23 pm #

    em said:

    GardenSecrets racking up more negs as the days go by…

    I feel bad for those unsuspecting buyers.

    Wonder how long it’ll take ’til we find her new shop.

    She can’t ship items or answer convos, she’s too busy Christmas shopping on her buyer’s dime.

    What a psychopath.

  16. detroit December 19, 2010 at 1:26 pm #

    LORDY! The cupcakes can come up with the most convoluted theories possible to explain away reselling:

    (From the thread about the hat, that the buyer is worried is from a reseller because it was Peruvian style, shipped from Jersey, and had a “Made in Nepal” tag in it.)

    “Could this be another possibility?

    I recently went to a home jewelry party. The jewelry being sold is made by women rescued from the sex slave trade in various countries. Each piece is made by a rescued woman and they are paid well for each item. The items are then collected by the charity and sold in the US, with the money going back to the women in the country of origin.

    Is it possible these were something similar?”

    Or here’s another possibility: THEY ARE RESELLING! I know this poster meant well, but GOOD GAWD! lol.

    Usually the simpler answer is right. But way to make this woman fear reporting the shop b/c she may be hurting the business of third world women recovering from sexual slavery!!

    That’s exactly why scammers use those heart string plucking stories.

    It’s from this link, that someone mentioned a few posts back:

  17. Life During Wartime December 19, 2010 at 2:36 pm #

    Seriously, Detroit, we can’t expect the cupcakettes to employ Occam’s Razor to the discussion. After all, William of Ockham was a P3n1s Person, a subspecies which has been largely driven off Etsy as sellers.

  18. Lucy December 19, 2010 at 3:21 pm #

    I get tired of the “blame the victim” mentality. If you don’t make handmade items, it’s hard to tell the difference with a few pictures. There are legit handmade sellers that underprice their items, and some have bad photos.

    With Etsy, you’re going to a site that says it’s handmade and you think you’re doing the right thing and supporting small business. It has to be upsetting when you get the item in your hands and yes, it feels like that Wal-Mart item you could have had for $10.00. You then go to the forums and the cupcakes tell you how you must be wrong, it’s just a similiar pattern, or you’re told you should have researched the items before buying.

    So much for wanting to do the right thing, the person could have saved a few dollars, time, and lectures on how it’s their own fault for wanting to support handmade. So, again, why should I shop on Etsy?

  19. PussDaddy December 19, 2010 at 3:38 pm #

    When I first got to Etsy I was not sure at first if those hats were handmade or not until someone showed me where they were selling them on ebay. It was the stitching all around them, I forget what that kind of stitching is called, but it was that that made me so I wasn’t completely sure. Like if they did just enough to a store bought hat to render it handmade.

  20. Life During Wartime December 19, 2010 at 4:06 pm #

    Chinese reseller in today’s Get The Look Decor:

    So funny to see how well this shop gets the Etsy market trend housewares look. I mean, nothing says ‘American or French country rustic/primitives made with recycled (cough cough) materials’ like a shipping address in HK.

  21. anonymous December 19, 2010 at 4:44 pm #

    hello, fellow pea!

  22. sick of cupcakes December 20, 2010 at 9:41 am #

    The Beanie asshat must have been tipped off…they changed their crocheted headbands to knit. They missed these beanies though.

    NOT crocheted, idiot.

  23. detroit December 20, 2010 at 1:14 pm #

    LOL LDW – your so smart. Guess I knew there was some term like that out there.

    The beannie asshat also has a stupendous amount of sales seeing as how they’ve been open about one minute.

    I agree with the person above who says they hate the ‘blame the victim’ mentality. I realize many casual Etsy shoppers have no knowledge of making things (crochet versus knit, etc.), and are busy, and just want to pop in and get something cute and cheap.

    Still, I always do wonder about people who buy from shops like this. Whenever I’m buying from a total stranger online, I do a bit of looking. This seller would have turned me WAY off. Slapdash, out of focus banner. No profile. No description of how they ‘make’ the things in the item descriptions…..

    Again, it’s not right that people are getting burned. But I guess we all have to keep ‘buyer beware’ foremost in our minds when shopping, particularly online.

  24. Ripeolive December 20, 2010 at 3:09 pm #

    I just saw those hats at a kiosk in the mall, yesterday. Exact same ones, Wow just wow. They were 15.99$

  25. Inspector Yuk December 20, 2010 at 5:00 pm #

    Chinese reseller in today’s Get The Look Decor:

    So funny to see how well this shop gets the Etsy market trend housewares look. I mean, nothing says ‘American or French country rustic/primitives made with recycled (cough cough) materials’ like a shipping address in HK.

    And listed under handmade no less. So, are they handmade, or are they vintage? Or perhaps they’re the ‘simple things that make them smile’ that they picked up while ‘traveling the world’. What a crock of shit.

  26. Inspector Yuk December 20, 2010 at 5:20 pm #

    Honestly, I don’t think 99.9% of Etsy buyers give a crap about whether something is handmade or not.

    If buying handmade really meant something, one of these venues would do whatever they could to protect it. But they make excuses, loosen the rules and look the other way. This leads me to believe that handmade is just a trendy buzzword that means absolutely nothing.

    Wouldn’t you think, if there really was a discerning market out there that valued handmade like we’re led to believe, that they would want to do whatever it took to make sure that their products actually fit that description?

    this reminds me of the greeting card companies that come up with more ‘holidays’ like secretary’s day, sweetest day, bosses day, etc to increase the need for their products.

    The handmade movement isn’t really about people wanting to buy handmade, but for corporations to find a way to capitalize on the home crafters who are desperate to sell their stuff. A formerly untapped market other than art or craft shows which is a limited number of artisans and a limited market.

  27. PussDaddy December 21, 2010 at 9:05 am #

    I would buy one if I wore hats. I like them. I just wouldn’t buy it on a handmade site.

  28. detroit December 21, 2010 at 3:09 pm #

    Well, the store is temporarily empty. Too bad it does nothing to help the 91 people who got ripped off on Etsy right before Christmas.

    Thanks Etsy! Happy holidays to you too!

    Can’t wait till you’ve coached these fools to cut out the tags! And they’re open again!

  29. Life During Wartime December 22, 2010 at 1:48 pm #

    Detroit, I think you’re right about BeanieShop. They’ll be back in 2011. After all, 91 sales in their first 6 weeks is damn good for items with a listed price of more than $5.00!

    So here we are, one year later, wondering what Etsy will do — if anything — about resellers on the site.

    Etsy did one thing. They SC(r)AMmed the owners of rule-abiding shops.

  30. sick of cupcakes December 22, 2010 at 2:12 pm #

    I would like to thank etsy for allowing the scammers to prosper. They have allowed me to give up my handmade dreams and return to school after twenty years so I can get a real job and stop handing more money over to those assholes.

  31. EtsyDontCare December 22, 2010 at 3:48 pm #

    What is up with these resellers claiming to be actually modeling the items:
    I’ve seen it with some of the clothing ones too. Do they think by saying they are modeling it that they actually made it?

    I hope you’re wrong Inspector Yuk…but you’re probably not because even as a consumer and I shop around I see stuff on Etsy that I know I’ve seen on Ebay, Amazon etc which tells me it isn’t home made!

    I have made a couple purchases for Christmas and hopefully I was right about the shops I selected!

  32. EtsyDontCare December 22, 2010 at 3:49 pm #

    My point was that it is obvious that they are not home made but they still get sales which tells me the consumer doesn’t care and will buy it whether or not is home made or not.

  33. detroit December 23, 2010 at 7:32 am #

    32 | EtsyDontCare
    December 22, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    What is up with these resellers claiming to be actually modeling the items:
    I’ve seen it with some of the clothing ones too. Do they think by saying they are modeling it that they actually made it?

    Holy shyte! I didn’t look at this one at first. Have they been called out here before? Almost 600 sales since July! o0

    They follow the Chinese reseller formula to a T too. Gotta hand it to ’em, they figured out how to hook dumb Western shoppers and reel em in.

    So, what percent of Etsy sales are from the Chinese factory bazaar now? Add in the fact that a large portion of the ‘supplies’ people use originate from there too….

    The demise of Etsy certainly has been interesting to watch. It tells the story of our whole global economic system – in one website.

  34. PussDaddy December 23, 2010 at 4:13 pm #

    This hat shop has been opened and closed and gone and back several times already.

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