cufflinksblink, CraftsForKids, fashionsuzy, PortugueseVintage

21 Dec

Some great comments from the About page:

I was looking for cufflinks on Etsy and found this shop: http://www.etsy.com/shop/cufflinksblink

I searched “Anchor and rudders cufflinks” and found the exact same cufflinks in many places. In her shop announcement she used to say that she sells wholesale cufflinks. I’ve reported her, and nothing happened except now her announcement doesn’t say that anymore.

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http://www.etsy.com/shop/CraftsForKids?ref=seller_info

This is a reseller shop. Note that many of her listings include these words in the description:
“***Please note these kits are not handmade they are purchased from a manufacturer. I inspect all the pieces to ensure that there is no missing items or broken, uneven pieces. I also repackage them nicely and include all the supplies needed to finish them (glue, scissors, etc.)”

Yet she lists these kits from Oriental Trading Company
http://www.orientaltrading.com/

under Handmade/children.

I thought this shop deserved a call-out all its own.

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Seriously, not handmade.

http://www.etsy.com/shop/fashionsuzy?ref=pr_profile

http://www.fashionsuzy.com/sub/catalog.php?CatNo=46

nothing like jacking the price up a bit for Etsy and not bothering to cover it up…
http://www.etsy.com/listing/63591101/classic-mode-volume-ops-halu646

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Seller portugesevintage mixes actual vintage items with tons of faux-vintage iron hooks and brass bottle openers:

http://www.etsy.com/shop/PortugueseVintage?ref=seller_info

This pisses me off, because I almost bought some of her hooks a few weeks back thinking they were genuine!

 

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25 Responses to “cufflinksblink, CraftsForKids, fashionsuzy, PortugueseVintage”

  1. Megan December 21, 2010 at 11:17 am #

    cufflinksblink – 36 sales and >>>0<<< feedback. WHY would anyone buy from a shop like that?

  2. Life During Wartime December 21, 2010 at 12:07 pm #

    The feedback isn’t there because the items ship from Hong Kong. Descriptions say typical shipping time is 21 days or 3-4 weeks. Shop opened on December 1. Buyers haven’t received their purchases yet.

    Not that I am defending this reseller being on Etsy.

  3. Inspector Yuk December 21, 2010 at 1:35 pm #

    Well, after doing some background on FashionSuzie, and the brand Halu Maybe, It suddenly dawns on me that these collectives of 1-5 people aren’t actually the crafters, they’re the ones running the wholesaling business. Halu Maybe is a brand sold under Griffin Korea Company. the company profile says they have from 1-5 employees, but those employees run the “specialized in overrun, leftover, stock wears origined in south Korea as only
    Being of a liquadation company in Korea.”

    http://www.bizearch.com/company/GRIFFIN_KOREA_COMPANY_361407.htm

    Which I got from this site: http://www.fashionsuzy.com/guest/contacuus.htm

  4. Life During Wartime December 21, 2010 at 1:39 pm #

    A word of warning about ‘vintage’ cast iron on Etsy: almost all of the items are new! Some are castings from vintage molds, but that doesn’t make the new product vintage.

    If you want the vintage look of new cast iron items, they are available all over the web for less than the typical Etsy cupcakette price.

    As far as the line of baloney used by several of the cast iron sellers in the US about them finding items at thrift stores, antiques shops, salavage yards, etc etc — it’s a huge steaming pile of BS. They get the hooks, banks, doorstops yadda yadda from wholesalers. Speaking from nearly 20 years of dealing in antiques and vintage, no one can find the number of duplicate old items seen in the SOLD listings for all these shops.

    Oh, and it seems to be a reseller SOP to plant a bunch of their faux vintage goods in the Handmade Weddings category, like PortugueseVintage does. I find that many shops placing items not wedding specific in Handmade Weddings have a variety of serious TOU violations.

  5. Megan December 21, 2010 at 2:47 pm #

    That makes more sense. 🙂

  6. madmomma December 21, 2010 at 7:06 pm #

    What the HELL is wrong with Etsy? Stuff that is CLEARLY not handmade and was flagged months ago is STILL UP.

    I give up… No matter how much PROOF you send them, the resellers are just NOT going away. I have to believe that Etsy must be in the process of making new rules that re-sellers can stay. There is NO other logical explanation.

    I can’t even browse the categories without getting angry. Flat out blatant resellers in every category… continuing to push out the honest handmade sellers.

    I go through my favorites once a week and every time I do, I find yet another handmade shop has closed…
    How sad.

  7. amused December 21, 2010 at 9:00 pm #

    Sigh………….is there any point at all? So easy to find all over Etsy.

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/SilverPath?ref=seller_info

  8. amused December 21, 2010 at 9:02 pm #

    And the profile sounds like they have already been well Etsy coached.
    Over 70 sales.

  9. Ripeolive December 22, 2010 at 6:05 am #

    Here’s one I ran across just today
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/easygoingshopping?ref=seller_info

    All are vintage style brass owl jewelry and such; found on Alibaba of course. Ships from China, states in their shop announcement all items will be marked as “gifts” to avoid customs fees!!
    Just more of the same reselling crap.

  10. EtsyDontCare December 22, 2010 at 10:13 am #

    Here is the real shop from FashionSuzy he/she even uses their numbers:
    http://www.mwfshop.com/brand.php?id=49

    Madmomma I agree I think that Etsy is going to allow resellers. Hopefully more people will open Art Fire or some other handmade venue and Etsy can lose their homemade market. I know when I start getting sales on Art Fire I’m closing my shop on Etsy.

  11. JK December 22, 2010 at 10:56 am #

    I wish Etsy cared as much about supporting genuine handmade as they do about coaching resellers and pocketing those two sweet dimes every time another factory-fresh item hits the site.

  12. EtsyDontCare December 22, 2010 at 12:51 pm #

    I’ve been spending a lot of time on Art Fire and one thing I notice is their admins actually answer questions. In their section for announcements users are allowed to respond and they respond back.

    Here is a total call out:
    http://www.artfire.com/modules.php?name=forums&op=view_topic&tid=23057
    Instead of shutting it down the admins contacted the seller being called out to defend themselves. REFRESHING!

    It is weird because the OP first posting is not there. They probably deleted when they found it was a mistake. Probably two sellers with the same name but my point is they didn’t shut the forum down!

  13. NonnyMouse December 22, 2010 at 3:44 pm #

    I’ve been spending a lot of time on Art Fire and one thing I notice is their admins actually answer questions. In their section for announcements users are allowed to respond and they respond back.
    Here is a total call out:
    http://www.artfire.com/modules.php?name=forums&op=view_topic&tid=23057
    Instead of shutting it down the admins contacted the seller being called out to defend themselves. REFRESHING!
    It is weird because the OP first posting is not there. They probably deleted when they found it was a mistake. Probably two sellers with the same name but my point is they didn’t shut the forum down!

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    Yes, Artfire members are allowed to call out in the forums. That allows the community to discuss whether or not the “callee” is breaking the TOU or not. Sometimes they are, sometimes they’ve been falsely accused. But at least the members are allowed to discuss it like adults, instead of getting constantly smacked down like on Etsy.

    Also on Artfire, if an item is flagged 4 times by 4 different people, it is automatically removed – imagine if that were true on Etsy!

  14. Artfire Seller December 22, 2010 at 5:20 pm #

    Also on Artfire, if an item is flagged 4 times by 4 different people, it is automatically removed – imagine if that were true on Etsy!
    ________________________________________
    Yabut, sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn’t. There is no way to flag an entire shop. You have to flag each and every single item that violates TOUs. I found one shop with 5 pages of items that were categorized as supplies and were instead very obviously ready to wear and already made up. This person is an active seller on Etsy, so they know the difference. I researched in the forums on what to do about an entire shop. I found a thread about this, and it said to notify Admin. with an email and a link to the shop. I did….

    All I got was a boilerplate email telling me to flag the items and admin would look into it. I’m not going to flag 5 pages’ worth of items. I did what the forum said to do, and it didn’t work, so maybe it’s same song, second verse: Admin looks the other way as long as the person is bringing in money.

    It was really rather disappointing.

  15. sick of cupcakes December 22, 2010 at 8:15 pm #

    Small beans, but this shop clearly shows the tags for these scrubs:
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/GreyhoundScrubs?ref=seller_info

  16. Inspector Yuk December 22, 2010 at 10:15 pm #

    15 | sick of cupcakes
    December 22, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Small beans, but this shop clearly shows the tags for these scrubs:
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/GreyhoundScrubs?ref=seller_info
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    They are using commercial scrubs and shirts to put their greyhound organization logo on. They have a cafe press with this design on it, so it’s hard to tell whether or not the design is embroidered on or inked on.

    It’d be nice if they included a little more information about the organization and help people connect to their charity as well as let them know how the design is applied and how much of the cost of the shirt actually goes to the charity.

  17. sick of cupcakes December 23, 2010 at 3:23 am #

    Ahhh, ok.

  18. Sick of resellers December 23, 2010 at 3:35 pm #

    Just sent a bunch of flags on miss reseller of cufflinks, she has an EBAY shop with the exact same photos and states these are NEW in box and not handmade. http://stores.ebay.co.uk/so-mens/_i.html?rt=nc&_sid=985687732&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1513&_pgn=1

    So, I guess Etsy says resellers are ok now? 21 days and no action taken. Did they all over-do the rum soaked eggnog?

  19. Becky December 23, 2010 at 6:33 pm #

    I’m very disappointed. I am relatively new to Etsy (I have been a member for nearly a year and made about 20 purchases) and I just don’t understand why this is allowed to go on.
    I shouldn’t have to do a background search of every seller that I want to purchase from. That’s Etsy’s job, and they’re not doing it. The embarrassment I feel when I realize I’ve bought something that is not handmade/vintage/whatever is huge.
    I joined Etsy because I wanted to support handmade products, and I wanted to feel good about the purchases I made, knowing that some child was not working in a sweatshop to produce my items. I wanted to feel like I was helping a mom who had a hobby on the side.

    But this has become impossible because of the clear infringements done by so many Etsy sellers. I feel bad for the people who are following the TOS, who are completely genuine and don’t lie in their listings, who are overshadowed by the scams and the lies that so many sellers have adopted.

    I want to leave Etsy because of this. Which is a huge disappointment. I am embarrassed to be associated with a website that has no regard for human rights, obvious rule violations and DISHONESTY.

    Obviously this has been going on for a long time, and nothing will stop it.

  20. linda December 23, 2010 at 8:47 pm #

    I was looking for a new lunch bag for work. Somehow I’m thinking this isn’t hand made:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/46293539/stephen-joseph-boys-insulated-lunch-box
    http://www.amazon.com/Stephen-Joseph-Square-Lunch-Farm/dp/B001L1RUQO

  21. lovetofu December 24, 2010 at 4:38 am #

    BEWARE RESELLER FROM CHINA
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/babygirl88

  22. Life During Wartime December 24, 2010 at 1:20 pm #

    Becky, as disheartening as these call-outs can be, there are still hundreds of true handmade sellers on Etsy and lots of shops selling real vintage. The honest shop owners are not responsible for Etsy’s lack of integrity as a site.

    I’ve been selling online for nearly 9 years now, and every site I’ve used for a shop has had these issues. From what I read and hear from colleagues who do shows (antiques, art, or crafts) the same problems exist in that marketplace. Fakery is widespread, and Mr. or Ms. Sixpack Average doesn’t really care much about who made the item (handmade) or its age and authenticity (vintage).

    The smaller sites (like Artfire and Zibbet) already have most/all of Etsy’s problems because of the sellers all the sites have in common. The same holds true for sites that host antiques and vintage shops; they have many sellers (and integrity problems) in common.

    So don’t let being a part of one site or another make you uncomfortable about doing business. The number one rule of the marketplace is always CAVEAT EMPTOR. It really isn’t possible for a site, or governing body, to completely protect consumers from dishonest business practices. What gets me P.O.ed about Etsy is their hypocrisy about the presence of resellers and faux vintage — promoting violating shops while pretending their faves are following the rules. This practice can — and must be — changed IMO.

  23. Inspector Yuk December 25, 2010 at 2:25 pm #

    Well said LDW, but one point of irony, for me, is that on Etsy, the administration has it’s head in the sand regarding resellers and on Artfire, it’s the members who pretend they don’t exist in the numbers they do.

    It’s such an odd thing to observe, One site the members are all up in arms and the other it’s like they all have their head in the sand.

  24. Life During Wartime December 25, 2010 at 3:15 pm #

    Yuk, I’ve noticed that about Artfire, too. It looks like Artfire is considered better than Etsy only because it’s not Etsy for some of the sellers. I have an empty basic shop, and I read the AF forums daily just in case the owners get their stuff together. No sign of that happening so far.

  25. No More Resellers January 3, 2011 at 12:07 pm #

    Well,
    Happy to see that Fashion Suzy’s shop is empty at the moment.
    Now, let’s see if we can get some of the others closed… still waiting on some of those big ones!

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