jewelsexports

3 Jan

Wholesaler/exporter. Admits it right in their shop announcement. Problem is, they have supplies on their front page but necklaces, pendants, and other earrings listed in their shop.

Jewelsexports on Etsy: http://www.etsy.com/shop/jewelsexports
(Did they just not think of how those two words would look connected?! lol)

Website About us page: http://www.jewelsexports.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=2&chapter=7

Also this store does also have supplies, but they have already-made/ready-to-wear items in their store, as well: http://www.etsy.com/shop/DiscountBeadStore?ref=seller_info

Example here: http://www.etsy.com/listing/61665771/sterling-silver-prayer-box-with-amethyst

And here is their Website About Us page: http://www.discountbeadstore.com/servlet/the-template/about/Page

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40 Responses to “jewelsexports”

  1. adoringhag January 3, 2011 at 6:36 pm #

    eep! thought it read ‘jewel sex ports’

  2. adoringhag January 3, 2011 at 6:43 pm #

    they are a supply shop, the only thing I could find mistagged are the pendants. slipping a bead on a chain or on a ear wire is allowed under etsy’s terms of use.

  3. No More Resellers January 3, 2011 at 6:57 pm #

    Last I checked you can sell supplies on Etsy and hand assembled jewelry.

    Now with that said, from the sounds of the website for the first shop, they are probably a bit too large to be considered a collective. I suggest you contact the company through their website and ask them how many people they have working there if you don’t believe their Etsy profile.

    They do say that they only made a portion of the ring- which is totally OK. There are thousands of people on Etsy that glue a stone on a ring base, etc… So if they buy a ring base and put a stone in it, it can be considered handmade.

    The only way I can think of this shop as not being etsy legal is if you prove they have a massive amount of people working for them. Otherwise, they are OK.

    Second shop, there is nothing in their website that proves they are not Etsy legal in regards to number of people involved, etc…
    Almost every person selling supplies on Etsy gets them from SOMEWHERE (unless they are making the supplies in which they would then be handmade) and just because they have a big fancy website doesn’t mean they can’t sell on Etsy.

    You can’t assume that just because you see the pendant on the chain that they didn’t put the pendant on the chain, especially if they are selling supplies. MANY etsy sellers do the same.

    Sorry, but this is a pretty lame call out, I think the only way they could be ousted from Etsy is if you prove the aren’t a collective.

  4. thesecretsafe January 3, 2011 at 7:08 pm #

    the jewelry in the first shop is resold unless it’s actually being made by the shop’s proprietor. The point is that they’re hiding the resell crap in between the legit supply listings.

  5. Artfire Seller January 3, 2011 at 7:11 pm #

    Read carefully….. they have items such as the harmony balls and prayer boxes tagged as handmade and jewelry. Unless they made those themselves, not only are they miscategorized, they’re openly resellers. Yes, they can put a pendant on a chain, but they are still in violation because they readily admit to importing what they have from factories in Indonesia and India. Isn’t that the definition of a reseller? Someone who does not craft or handmake their item but instead imports it?

    The first shop is still in violation with items like this: http://www.etsy.com/listing/55412473/139ct-natural-huge-rare-blood-red-ruby

    and this: http://www.etsy.com/transaction/36534770

    Jewelsexports is on Artfire with items such as these: http://www.artfire.com/modules.php?sterm=necklace&sub1=SEARCH&name=Shop&op=new&seller_id=87593&sort_cats=7&sc_id=0

    And Discountbeadstore also has these: http://www.artfire.com/modules.php?name=Shop&op=listing&product_id=2477737

  6. Life During Wartime January 3, 2011 at 7:14 pm #

    This callout isn’t actually lame. Check out the location (!) for the shop: US, Germany, Canada, India (who runs this shop, the ghost of Savitri Devi?) — that’s some long-distance collective! I didn’t check them all, but all the items I did click on ship from India.

    Yes, this shop could legitimately sell supplies, but they need to fix their location info, at the very least.

  7. Artfire Seller January 3, 2011 at 7:19 pm #

    The jewelry in the first shop is resold unless it’s actually being made by the shop’s proprietor. The point is that they’re hiding the resell crap in between the legit supply listings.
    ____________________________________
    ^^^Bingo!! For both shops. Waiting for my other comment to be moderated because they’re on Artfire, too, and it’s more blatant there.

  8. Sydney January 3, 2011 at 11:16 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/people/IndieThreadz

    Miss Indie’s new shop???

  9. Lisa January 4, 2011 at 3:25 am #

    Holy crap ! Miss Indie’s feedback is awful !! Out of her last 13…9 negs, 3 neutrals and 1 positive. That ticks me off. Those are 12 customers that may very well never return to the site. How much is too much, Etsy??? Holy crap !

  10. sick of cupcakes January 4, 2011 at 3:36 am #

    Pretty fast to call this a lame callout when obviously it is a legitimate one.

  11. JK January 4, 2011 at 8:24 am #

    I’m so glad I’m not the only person who misread that shop name!

  12. Buyer Only January 4, 2011 at 12:59 pm #

    I haven’t been around in a while but I see nothing’s changed. Not sure why Etsy doesn’t just concede that they love resellers and non vintage and be done with it.

    Probably with the boycott and petition over the rape and Down’s Syndrome cards, it’s only a matter of time before buyers leave in droves. One of my local agencies that works with rape victims sent out a newsletter calling for a boycott of Etsy.

    If admin had any decency, they would at least coach the seller of those cards, you know… the way they coach the resellers.

  13. Life During Wartime January 4, 2011 at 1:37 pm #

    Buyer Only, I read about this in the forums and searched online to see what it was about. OMFG, what some people will do to make a buck!

    Personal opinion here: I think the shop owner has issues. So I am not sure how Etsy can coach someone who diplays symptoms of psychopathy.

    AFAIK, the cards are not illegal in the USA. Harassment of crime victims or anyone dealing with personal tragedy is the latest ‘cool’ expression of First Amendment rights. I have no idea if this type of product is illegal in any nation that Etsy sellers use as a shipping address. Probably not. But that would be, I think, the only reason Etsy might ban an item or a whole shop from the site.

  14. um_ya January 4, 2011 at 2:06 pm #

    AFAIK, the cards are not illegal in the USA. Harassment of crime victims or anyone dealing with personal tragedy is the latest ‘cool’ expression of First Amendment rights. I have no idea if this type of product is illegal in any nation that Etsy sellers use as a shipping address. Probably not. But that would be, I think, the only reason Etsy might ban an item or a whole shop from the site.
    —————–
    The province of Quebec in Canada has a psychological harassment employment law.

  15. Life During Wartime January 4, 2011 at 3:10 pm #

    Flea market item just seen on the Front Page:

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/64572352/collectible-red-and-white-teapot?ref=fp_treasury_6

    Listed as handmade-housewares, description sez item is marked 2003 Made In China.

    Seller has been an Etsy seller for nearly 4 years, yet has no problem listing this Etsy-illegal item as handmade by her. Lovely.

    Oh, and let’s show the curator of the treasury some luv:

    http://www.etsy.com/treasury/4d150479f7e16d91ac4c01b0/celebrate-tartan-treasures?index=6

  16. em January 4, 2011 at 3:23 pm #

    I REALLY hope these boycotters realize that boycotting Etsy as a whole is hurting those who aren’t complete psycopaths.

    Geez, if you don’t like something, don’t look at it! And if you want to make a fuss, don’t bring the innocent down with you.

  17. Life During Wartime January 4, 2011 at 3:26 pm #

    Another shop that has some legit items, some reseller items (marked made in china, listed as handmade), some repurposed items wrongly listed as vintage:

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/LittleVintageCottage?ref=seller_info

    Found linked on the blog of the reseller I called out above in comment 15 (awaiting moderation).

  18. Buyer Only January 4, 2011 at 3:56 pm #

    That’s my point em. The boycott will keep hundreds, if not thousands, of potential shoppers away. Most people never heard of Etsy and after hearing/reading about the reason for the boycott, they aren’t going to want to find out.

    Etsy could take a pro-active approach to this and send out a press release and try to counter some of the damage that’s been done. But that would require someone who could write.

    Etsy has removed things that are a lot less offensive. So add to the garage sale, reseller crap that’s taking over the site, the offensive and people are going to stay away.

    It’s sort of like the old saying about the company that you keep.

  19. WangFu January 4, 2011 at 4:17 pm #

    There was one seller who had red bracelets tagged “pro-ana”, which is pro-anorexia…not sure if they are still around.

  20. seller January 4, 2011 at 4:19 pm #

    I have a shop on etsy and I also signed the petition at change.org. Etsy totally dropped the ball on that shop and needed to remove it with the first flag but Etsy never does anything decent until the flames are surrounding the building. Remember the Nazi flag?

  21. Life During Wartime January 4, 2011 at 5:03 pm #

    Seller, Etsy had to remove the new-fake-reproduction NS flag because it is illegal to have it for sale in some countries. (It couldn’t be listed on Ebay.) I remember comments in a forum thread about it saying it was not a problem !?!? because of historical interest or whatever. At the very least, it was a reseller item.

    Etsy can remove any items they don’t want on the site because they are a private company, even if those items don’t violate any laws, anywhere. Gosh, if I could make cards and draw, I’ll bet Etsy would remove cartoon cards about resellers on the site taking food out of the mouths of artisans’ children. Or would Etsy allow it as free artistic expression?

    I was shocked to read in the comments at the site calling for the boycott that the seller had specifically described one card as being for being for women who have been raped before the uproar prompted them to revise the description. The cold calculating attitude is what gets my back up here.

  22. madmomma January 4, 2011 at 10:55 pm #

    I posted on some of those blogs in which people were calling out for a ban of Etsy, the one that really irked me was the “christian” blogger that apparently thought it was a “christian” thing to call an all out ban on Etsy… There are a lot of people that depend on Etsy as it is their only source of income. Stuff like that drives me nuts. If you don’t like one store in the mall because they carry blow up dolls, then don’t shop there if it bothers you so much, but don’t ask people to boycott the entire mall.
    How can some people lack so much common sense?

    There may not be all that much that I like about Etsy these days, but I am pretty happy with the fact that it appears they are not getting involved with this card nonsense. One thumb up for Etsy.

  23. sick of cupcakes January 5, 2011 at 3:38 am #

    I would not compare blow up dolls to a rape congratulation card, madmomma. Obviously you have never experienced any kind of sexual violation. That just puts the last nail in the etsy coffin for me.

  24. Seller January 5, 2011 at 5:07 am #

    Blow-up dolls are legal, rape is not. I think people need to use some of that common sense along with some common decency and realize that hate speech (and yes many of those cards are just that) does not belong in etsy or anywhere else. It is very sad but I fear if the cards had targeted Jews or African Americans they would have been shut down already.

  25. Buyer Only January 5, 2011 at 7:19 am #

    Comparing a violent, violating crime to a blow up doll is disingenuous, to say the least.

    Etsy has a social responsibility to keep its site free of hate crime propaganda and offensive material that could perpetuate a crime. Who’s going to send a card like that to a rape victim? The rapist, a stalker? Definitely someone with ill intentions. Or maybe someone with a sick mind who would send it to someone they intend to rape/harm.

    People aren’t going to dismiss Etsy’s responsibility by thinking that it’s one bad apple on a tree of fruitfulness. They are boycotting Etsy because of their insensitiveness and apparent ignorance. Their failure to act, or even publicly acknowledge the issue leaves people to think they condone rape and the mocking/insulting/berating of children with special needs.

    If these cards sat on a rack in a store, you had better believe there would be plenty of people who would never step foot in that shop again, no matter how wonderful the other merchandise. There would probably be calls for a boycott, pickets and protests.

    The petition has almost 13,000 signatures. Not bad considering the short time it’s been online. Add to that, the thousands who, for whatever reason, don’t sign but will support the boycott. I received a newsletter from a local agency that works with victims of rape and domestic violence calling for a boycott of Etsy, but it doesn’t mention the petition.

    Etsy probably won’t suffer any immediate financial loss because many sellers buy from other sellers and the resellers keep the dollars flowing, but in the long term, as they attempt to grow, it will. Etsy’s weather report is so skewed that it will be hard to tell if it really hurt them or not. They give out the number of new members each month, but never the number that left. They give a sales number but how many of those tranactions are trades and not actual goods sold? I’m sure the way the coupon codes are set up that Etsy’s stats include the pre-sale and not the sale price, which would inflate their figures substantially.

    Rokali needs to get his head out of the sand.

  26. Wolf January 5, 2011 at 2:22 pm #

    When a friend who doesn’t have an Etsy account told me about that shop, I was appalled.

    Then when I went to look at it myself, I was offended.

    Why? Because I am the sibling of someone who is disabled and the Sister in Law of another disabled person.

    It takes a lot to offend me and that shop managed to do so in mere seconds.

    I sent Etsy an email about it and surprise, surprise, never received an answer back.

    So glad I opted to close down my shop there and stop selling, thereby not supporting that sort of crap.

  27. madmomma January 5, 2011 at 4:47 pm #

    23 | sick of cupcakes
    January 5, 2011 at 3:38 am

    I would not compare blow up dolls to a rape congratulation card, madmomma. Obviously you have never experienced any kind of sexual violation. That just puts the last nail in the etsy coffin for me.
    __________________________
    Seriously?
    You are going to say I was comparing a rape card to a blow up doll? Wow, way to twist my comparison about Etsy being like a Mall and turn it into something completely different.

    I never mentioned whether or not I found the cards offensive as I didn’t feel that was important to the comparison. Nor did I mention any specific card.

    It is disturbing that you read so deep into my post that you felt compelled to make a snide assumption about my personal experiences having to do with “sexual violations” and the fact that you felt the need to do so publicly is frankly quite sad.

  28. sick of cupcakes January 5, 2011 at 5:20 pm #

    You are the one who compared not liking blow-up dolls to the rape cards, not me honey. You are the one who is quite sad.

  29. sick of cupcakes January 5, 2011 at 5:30 pm #

    Oh and ftr, if my mall had a store that sold cards mocking rape and Down’s, I wouldn’t shop there either.

  30. madmomma January 5, 2011 at 8:30 pm #

    I never said anything about rape cards.
    I am sorry this is so difficult for you to understand, and will try to explain simple linguistic context by using an example…

    Just place any object in the blank below and then plop that sentence back into my post. Then re-read the entire post.

    If you don’t like one store in the mall because they carry _____________, then don’t shop there if it bothers you so much, but don’t ask people to boycott the entire mall.

    Hope that helps!

  31. sick of cupcakes January 6, 2011 at 3:59 am #

    You are such an ignorant cow.

  32. sick of cupcakes January 6, 2011 at 4:02 am #

    ….and yes, I will boycott the mall. Will I tell anyone else not to shop there? No, but I do have my own personal freedom and if I choose to not shop somewhere for my own reasons, that is my prerogative. Just because you have a shop on etsy which may or may not be hurt by the fallout from this seller, not my problem. I wouldn’t want to buy from an ignorant jackass like you anyway.

  33. Buyer Only January 6, 2011 at 5:55 am #

    There’s a big difference between a mall and Etsy. Stores at a mall must abide by a lease, and can be evicted for violations. That means if store owner crosses the line and violates the lease… bye, bye.

    At Etsy, they have the power as well to remove the shop, but they won’t. So the anger is with both Etsy and the shop owner. A mall manager would have taken care of something like this immediately.

    The sellers have launched some pretty aggressive (and often successful) protests in the forums. The coral blog post is one, but there have been many more. The sellers aren’t protesting this issue.

    And yes, you did compare to a blow up doll. And I ditto everything sick of cupcakes said.

    Boycott away! Maybe it will teach them a lesson in ethics.

  34. Life During Wartime January 6, 2011 at 11:23 am #

    Like it or not, Etsy (just like the rest of the world) is infested with ignorant f&cks, but boycotting the site won’t change the way humans are wired. Like this thread, displaying Ignoramus Amerikkkans in classic form:

    http://www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6736356

    too stoopid to know that in other parts of the world, people celebrate the gift exchanges of Christmas today, tomorrow, and well into the month of January.

    And the airhead forum mod who closed the thread didn’t even bother to clue the blockheads in. Am guessing she doesn’t get it, either?

    At least Etsy has provided proof that women in groups can be as rude, (virtually) loud, obnoxious, and offensive as men. For whatever that might be worth. Ugh.

  35. madmomma January 6, 2011 at 3:15 pm #

    The fact is that censorship always defeats its own purpose, for it creates, in the end, the kind of society that is incapable of exercising real discretion. -Henry Steele Commager

    Sorry, I had to use a quote, but it pretty much sums up everything I was trying to say in my original post, and I couldn’t have said it more eloquently.

    The fact that Etsy has done nothing about the said offensive shop speaks volumes when you take into consideration that they are censoring what people say in the Etsy forums. Etsy is not consistent with much of anything, well other than being consistently inconsistent.

    Perhaps they could change their name from Etsy to Oxymoron.

    Life During Wartime has a very valid point worth expounding. People can and will be insensitive, rude, racist, etc… When we censor we also lose the ability to see the truth behind the individual and their thoughts. We may not like what a person has to say, and we may not like a particular piece of art, etc… but, by allowing them to remain uncensored we allow individuals the option to agree or disagree. I appreciate the opportunity to engage in intellectual discourse about such matters and that is why I am against censorship.

  36. PussDaddy January 6, 2011 at 8:07 pm #

    Everyone is against censorship. Right up until someone says something to them they don’t like and then they can’t wait to hit the report this post buttton and shut them the hell up. Hell, if everyone was against censorship people wouldn’t be bitching about “mommy bloggers” and what they say on their own fucking blogs, right? So exactly what kind of fucking censorship are talkin’ about here and how much against it are you actually?

  37. madmomma January 7, 2011 at 2:07 pm #

    PussDaddy-
    You hit that one dead on.
    I have never used the “reoprt” button in the Etsy forums. I don’t see the point of tattle taling, I am grown up enough to engage in adult conversation without having to ask for someone to come in and mediate… Many times in the Etsy forums I have spoken out about how I believe it is absurd that Etsy “mutes” people and even the fact that they need to “wrap this one up” as if we cannot end a discussion on our own? I believe in free and open discussions and cannot stand “playground monitoring” of adult conversation.

    People will disagree and they have the right to bitch/complain/whine or even call others names as others have expressed their freedom to do so in this blog. I believe in protecting individuals from hate crimes and discrimination and am glad that there are laws to keep people safe. But there is a difference between a hate crime and a card that is in poor taste. If an item breaks the TOU’s of Etsy, then they have every right to remove it. Their site=their rules. However, if the item does NOT violate their rules, then I believe it should stay. (and personally I do not know if it does or doesn’t violate the rules and with their ever changing rules written and unwritten, who really knows…).

    I know a lot of people may disagree with me and think I am supporting the card maker on Etsy. But, I am standing up against the censorship of artists on Etsy. Basically, I am against all censorship other than to protect individuals (in which there are already laws to protect individuals from such matters). Let the mommy bloggers rant, let the fundamentalists tell me I am going to hell, and let the anti-mommy bloggers rant back, heck, let people call me an ignorant cow. If someone wants to smear poop on a religious symbol and call it art, well by all means let them do so.

    It doesn’t mean that I condone any of the above actions, nor does it mean I agree/disagree or promote any of the above. But, I embrace the ability and choice to allow that freedom to everyone.

    So, PussDaddy, to follow up on your comment- if people want to boycott Etsy it is their choice to do so, if they want Etsy to censor individual shops, then I feel they need to be prepared that they too may be censored. These people also have the right to voice their opinions and I have the right to mine.

  38. mymy January 7, 2011 at 3:17 pm #

    I’m confused madmomma.

    Is it this?

    “I posted on some of those blogs in which people were calling out for a ban of Etsy, the one that really irked me was the “christian” blogger that apparently thought it was a “christian” thing to call an all out ban on Etsy… There are a lot of people that depend on Etsy as it is their only source of income. Stuff like that drives me nuts. If you don’t like one store in the mall because they carry blow up dolls, then don’t shop there if it bothers you so much, but don’t ask people to boycott the entire mall.”

    Or is it this?

    “if people want to boycott Etsy it is their choice to do so”

    Maybe you should try politics.

  39. Buyer Only January 7, 2011 at 3:58 pm #

    mymy, you crack me up and you summed it up, concisely.

  40. madmomma January 7, 2011 at 5:52 pm #

    mymy-
    you are right, I said both of those things…

    It is a fact that “if people want to boycott Etsy it is their choice to do so”.

    There is a difference between saying “it is their choice to do so” and saying that I condone their choice, in which I have not. (refer to original post you quoted)

    I am willing to further expound on this if necessary.

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