Portobello (again)

8 Jun

Yes, you have heard of them before.

Portobello is STILL selling bridal things which she hasn’t altered at all, but purchased from weddingfactorydirect.com. Example, this comb (if you remove spaces):
http://www.etsy.com/listing/75496056/lily-spray-head-piece

Is this comb:
http://www.weddingfactorydirect.com/comb-9817.html

Plus MANY other bridal combs on her site, plus her hair ribbon headpieces, can all be found on that wholesale site.
Portobello was shut down by etsy last February a couple of times for blatant reselling, but she’s still there, doing the same thing.

Portobello:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/68773877/victoire-rhinestone-head-piece
Wholesale:
http://www.weddingfactorydirect.com/hp-8286-i.html

http://www.etsy.com/listing/68777107/chelsea-beaded-rhinestone-and-pearl And here it is on a wholesale site:
http://www.weddingfactorydirect.com/comb-8278.html

This bridal comb in her shop (see the third picture):
http://www.etsy.com/listing/71926463/hagne-beaded-crystals-and-leaves-hair

was purchased wholesale here:
http://www.weddingfactorydirect.com/comb-9802.html

Nothing was “altered” and she’s selling it as handmade and designed by her. SUCH a fraud!!

EDIT TO ADD MORE:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/75076485/petra-rhinestones-and-gems-headpiece
http://www.orientaltreasurestrading.com/store/p/2326-Round-Antique-Style-Brooch.aspx

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71 Responses to “Portobello (again)”

  1. angryjeweler June 8, 2011 at 8:12 am #

    wow. first one says suggested retail 89 bucks. she’s charging 180 bucks. how many brides do you think she’s ripped off?!?

  2. Life During Wartime June 8, 2011 at 9:20 am #

    Check out her Location! Hundreds of miles of Mid-Atlantic Mega Metro, plus London, too.

  3. nolongerbuyingetsy June 8, 2011 at 10:08 am #

    I think Etsy prices a jacked up rip off. This is just another example of that. Even if they were handmade, I would never pay that much. I may as well go to Nordstrom. I could find a lot cheaper things there.

  4. Dun June 8, 2011 at 10:24 am #

    Brides are fodder for this shit, and what shit it is.

  5. etsy flea market June 8, 2011 at 10:31 am #

    NOTE: All pictures, designs are original design, handmade in my studio and © Portobello.

    I take pride and I strive to create unique designs on Etsy. All of my designs are original work and copyrighted Portobello. Imitating work of others is against Etsy’s rules. Please see http://www.etsy.com/policy/ip. Please don’t hesitate to contact me if you see any imitation work elsewhere.

    TRANSLATION: If you see similar work, they’re copy cats not another douche buying wholesale and reselling.

  6. Nicole June 8, 2011 at 10:46 am #

    I had no idea so many of her current pieces were resold items, I knew there were a few but she’s really taking the piss considering that she’s been caught before. Does she have some kind of arrangement with Etsy? How else is she getting away with this repeatedly?

  7. megansbeadeddesigns June 8, 2011 at 11:00 am #

    It doesn’t make sense that I price my hair pieces so cheaply and they just sit in my store and sellers like this can price so firkin high and they sell like hotcakes! What am I doing wrong here???

  8. Yaya June 8, 2011 at 12:35 pm #

    Portobello on etsy is one of the worst bridal scam artists that I can recall and I’ve been reading this blog since day one.

  9. MoreCrap June 8, 2011 at 1:12 pm #

    I feel honestly sick. I make handmade bridal. Etsy is FULL of so many dishonest resellers and those who ‘slightly alter’ in bridal. How am I to make a living?

  10. FormerEtsyBuyer June 8, 2011 at 1:56 pm #

    In this listing, I can’t tell if she’s selling two headbands (both of which were purchased at weddingfactorydirect.com) which she attached together? And that would make these “hand altered”? Or are they separate? Here is her listing:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/72995281/ella-beaded-rhinestone-and-pearl-flower

    Here is headband #1:
    http://www.weddingfactorydirect.com/elgohewiflsi.html

    Headband #2:
    http://www.weddingfactorydirect.com/hp-7448-gold-champagne.html

    Total cost wholesale for both is $69; she’s selling for $219. Nice profit!

    Also, her last picture in that listing on etsy shows a bracelet that is obviously purchased wholesale that she says is available. Someone left feedback for her (or is it a shill?) for this tiara on May 31 that says:

    “This tiara is absolutely GORGEOUS! Great craftsmanship, looks just the way it does in the picture, and sturdy. Came in the mail quickly. Also check out her website at http://www.portobellojewelry.com – there are things there that aren’t on her Etsy site. I ordered the bracelet that is pictured with this tiara and it’s also fabulous!”

  11. em June 8, 2011 at 2:52 pm #

    I’m really glad I don’t sell on Etsy anymore. I know the reseller problem is everywhere, but I can’t stand giving my money to a company that lets this crap go on. It took a long time for me to finally ‘cut the cord,’ but I’m so glad I did. Now, if only ArtFire would overhaul their site’s design so it can at least stand a chance against Etsy!

  12. ohmeohmy June 8, 2011 at 8:45 pm #

    She really drives me crazy. She has been called out several times, shut down a few, and then bounces back up again because she’s a big seller. Etsy should boot her scamming shop off etsy once and for all! She gives other bridal a bad name.

    She’s greedy as hell too with her markups. Well above retail. Scamming buyers thinking they are getting a handmade product.

  13. t June 8, 2011 at 10:23 pm #

    FEEDBACK:
    I believe in Karma. That means doing the right thing, thinking the right thoughts and treating people with nothing less than love. Treat people like how I want to be treated.

    If you have queries or concern about an item you’ve purchased please don’t hesitate to contact me via Etsy “Conversations”. I’ll do my best to make it right for you. Please be honest and be fair to others do not leave me a negative feedback just because.

    This made me laugh all this talk of honesty and karma…Wow!! Right there in her policies section…

  14. Yaya June 9, 2011 at 4:07 am #

    Another non-vintage vintage shop:

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/johvahn?ref=seller_info

  15. Life During Wartime June 9, 2011 at 11:05 am #

    Dang! This is the same stuff she was pulling when her shop was flagged last year.

    This is entirely Etsy’s fault. If a shop is flagged, and Etsy finds cause to disappear their items, investigate them, and then tell the shop owner to clean up their act, then Etsy needs to keep the shop on an I’m Watching You! list. And check their shop periodically for infractions.

    The obvious hint hint hint that Portobello is full of it is that nonsense about mega distributors for bridal accessories stealing her handmade original designs. Please! Do not try and tell me she casts and plates the metal rhinestone settings in her kitchen.

  16. Nicole June 9, 2011 at 11:55 am #

    Does anyone else have a page pull up that says ‘your report has been submitted’ etc when you click on the links? I think ECO has pasted links after they’ve reported the listing and copied that link, and it takes me there when I haven’t reported it. There is one listing with the Uh Oh, which didn’t give me that ‘report submitted link’ and I have a theory that this one was flagged and removed, and the others haven’t because the link takes you to a page where there is no ‘report’ button…so flag those listings!!

  17. megansbeadeddesigns June 9, 2011 at 1:46 pm #

    In virtual labs yesterday, this shop was brought up as an example as to why I should raise my prices. I just replied, “I am sorry but I think that these pieces are way over-priced and borderline scamming…” It was so hard not to say more….

  18. Life During Wartime June 9, 2011 at 3:31 pm #

    Wow, MegansBeadedDesigns! Was it an Etsy staff member who brought up this reseller? If so, what a slap in the face to Etsy sellers who design and make their own products!

  19. Just Me June 10, 2011 at 2:56 am #

    Portobello has been copying my feather fascinator designs for the past year. When she lists my designs in her Etsy shop she say’s they are her original design and puts her copright mark on them. I visit her shop often to see what she’s copying from me and I hope that she can see the traffic coming from me, so she knows I’m on to her.

    She is such a scammer!

  20. Nicole June 10, 2011 at 6:58 am #

    Last year when this store was called out it did not take long for Etsy to pull her store, more than once. So they either don’t keep a running file of violations or they really no longer give a shit.

  21. Life During Wartime June 10, 2011 at 9:55 am #

    Nicole, Etsy definitely keeps a file of user IDs associated with certain forums posts. Instead of forums mutings, Etsy should concentrate on reseller bootings. My Etsy-themed Fortune Cookie wisdom for the week.

  22. FormerEtsyBuyer June 11, 2011 at 4:15 pm #

    Aaaaand, of course, Portobello is on the front page right now! It’s one of those peacock feather fascinator things.

  23. Life During Wartime June 23, 2011 at 1:43 pm #

    Link to thread about Portobello just closed in the Forums:

    http://www.etsy.com/teams/7718/site-help/discuss/8611881/

    A supplies seller says she was contacted about Portobello selling the same items she sells as supplies, but claiming they are handmade by Portobello. Etsy fired a warning shot in the direction of the supplies seller after Portobello complained about a convo from the supplies shop. WJW, Etsy. These tense convos wouldn’t happen if you put down those cupcakes and dealt with the reselling issues as they are reported.

  24. Allyson James June 23, 2011 at 2:02 pm #

    I’ve just had frustrating issues because of Portobello……..

    I was alerted by another member she was using one of my items and claiming she “handmade it with love’. I went to her shop and sure enough there it was. I sent her a very nice convo asking her to take down my item. A few days later I receive a letter from Etsy telling me I was reported for harassment by Portobello. They never asked for my side of the story, they just assumed Portobello was telling the truth. They just assumed I was guilty. I’ve written several emails and gotten nowhere. Today I wrote on the threads about what happened. There were some great people! But mostly? I was crucified for “calling out”. I don’t even know what that means! Some people were pretty harsh and it’s left me feeling defeated. I’ve done nothing wrong but Etsy is threatening to close my shop if I “continue to harass Portobello” which I never did! Never! It’s crazy! I need to get thicker skin but I think I’m just way to sensitive for all this and in the future I’m keeping my mouth shut.

    Etsy just now, closed my thread…???. Before they did I read a few posts that said Etsy is looking the other way because Portobello brings in too much business/Etsy fees for them to shut her down. Could this be true? They said because I’m a small seller and Portobello brings in lots of fees for them that they will support her. Wow! Could this be true?

    I think it might be time to consider moving to Art Fire!

  25. Life During Wartime June 23, 2011 at 5:27 pm #

    Listing an item you purchased as handmade by you is deceptive business practice and against the Etsy Terms of Use. If you read all the comments here, and check out the link to last year’s callout of Portobello, you will see she has been getting away with posting misleading listings for a long time on Etsy.

    Don’t let this incident make you feel you have to close your shop — you don’t. Moving to ArtFire will be more of the same. AF has it’s favorites, too, and resellers (shops passing off items made by someone else as handmade by them) are on ArtFire, too.

    I think you should tough it out, and stay on Etsy!

  26. ohmeohmy June 23, 2011 at 5:38 pm #

    She’s the “teflon queen” because she makes etsy big bucks. I think she is the best selling bridal shop on etsy.

    Don’t quit because of her and her sneaky and deceptive ways. Shes’ been called out for 4 years now. Etsy coaches her into compliance every time.

    Resellers might be bad, but the very worst are long time etsian resellers who are very aware of what they are doing.

    Just report all she has in her shop that was not hand made or altered in any way. But don’t expect her to be booted off. That would be too good.

  27. Allyson James June 23, 2011 at 8:36 pm #

    Wow! I can’t believe Etsy let’s this continue but after reading everyone’s posts here and even on the thread before Etsy closed it It does seems like they are turning a blind eye to her. I told my hubby what happened and his first response was, “She must be making them money.” I guess in many ways it always comes down to money, which is sad. My small shop with it’s few sales cannot compete with someone on her level but it’s a shame Etsy is allowing this “fraud” to go on. In my case she listed items I sell in my shop as commercial supplies saying she’d “made them with love” and its appalling. For all the artists she’s ripped off it must be even more frustrating as these are their own designs so it’s a true copyright infringement. I’m surprised no ones sued her yet or even Etsy. In a way Etsy is compliant in the fraud because they have obviously been warned over and over. The sheer number of posts on this blog is overwhelming, They know what’s going on but their profit is more important. They are literally allowing Portobello to defraud their customers. How can this even be legal? I just hate feeling helpless against a big company such as Etsy. I’m one tiny voice but it does help to know I’m not alone and that this has happened to others. Thanks for all the supportive comments. I know your all right that this prob goes on at Art Fire too….But at least Art Fire has an actual phone number where you can talk to a real person. I wish everyone the very best and much “honest” success! 🙂

  28. Allyson James June 24, 2011 at 9:46 am #

    I just wanted to update everyone on what’s happened. I’ve copied the email I just received back from Etsy regarding the Portobello situation and my reply to them. (I am allowed to do that here correct?) I have no hope that my little shop or my reply will make any difference but I’m just not the kind of person who can stay silent. This whole thing has really upset me. Not so much what happened to me but the fact that Etsy is allowing Portobello to knowingly defraud thousands of brides. It’s wrong! I find it kind of ironic that the Etsy email is signed as coming from “Etsy Trust & Safety” Trust? Safety? Seriously!

    Email From Etsy on June 24, 2011.
    Hello Allyson,

    I hope this message finds you well. I will do my best to explain why you received this warning and what it means from this point forward.

    Conversations (also called “Convos”) are your way to communicate privately with other Etsy members. Conversations are primarily intended for communicating about transactions. Members may also use Conversations to build friendly relationships with one another, seek advice or discuss Etsy Team activities. We ask that you do not use the Conversations feature to ask another member to remove items from their shop or to question the handmade status of their listings, as when this is reported to us as harassment, we are required to take appropriate action.

    If you find items on Etsy which may violate our policy, please take the time to report them directly to Etsy Admin. You can contact us to report copyright violations, direct copying of your listings, or items which are listed or tagged incorrectly. Reporting these violations to us is the quickest and best way to deal with any problem.

    The exact Convo you quoted in your reply is the one we received when harassment was reported. Yes, we do consider that Convo to be a form of harassment when it is unsolicited and may be upsetting to the person who received it. While your intention may have been peaceful, please remember you were able to take time to think about what you were sending and communicate with other Etsy members first. However, the member who received it did not know the context which encouraged you to send this message, and therefore they could only react to what they received.

    Please do not continue to send messages such as this, unsolicited, to other Etsy members. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns and I will do my best to address them. Should you still wish to communicate with my supervisor, I can arrange for them to email you early next week.

    Best,
    Brittany
    Etsy Trust & Safety

    And my repy:

    Hi Brittany,

    I very much appreciate your taking the time to explain why I received the warning. I truly never knew that to send a convo to other members such as I did was against the rules. For that I am sorry and it will never happen again. It’s still hard for me to be accused of harassment when my convo actually literally asked for “PEACE”. But I’ve learned several lessons from this nightmare experience and for that I am grateful.

    I wonder if I cold take a few more moments of your time to explain certain information I have discovered in the last 24 hours.

    You mention how upsetting it was to Portobello to receive what was indeed a very polite convo from me. How upsetting was it for me to hear that she is defrauding other Etsy members? That she defrauded ME? That’s okay with Etsy? By doing some basic research I’ve found there is are websites devoted to “Portobello” and her defrauding other Etsy members.There are many websites about her in fact, she is notorious! If anyone dares to complain about her they are sent warnings, and she harasses other members by complaining of false harassment and other ways trying to get them in trouble with Etsy. SHE HAS DONE THIS HUNDREDS OF TIMES TO HUNDREDS OF VICTIMS! Why is it wrong for me to speak the truth in PEACE but she is allowed to defraud other members by claiming commercial items are “handmade with love”? That’s appalling! There are many opinions as to why Etsy allows her to continue. She is a big seller and brings in many fees for Etsy while I am just a small shop trying to make a few extra bucks. if Etsy has to choose? Money apparently wins out every time. It’s a sad day when the innocent are accused of harassment and the guilty are allowed to continue on as she has been allowed to continue her fraudulent actions for YEARS! Why?

    People, wonderful supportive people who have been hurt by this Portobello have warned me that to complain and speak out is to risk punishment from Etsy. I’ve seen that is true with my own experience. It’s really hard for me to believe that Etsy doesn’t welcome free speech and ones right to an opinion. Especially when that opinion can be proved beyond any doubt and has been confirmed and backed up by SO many current and former Etsy members. Portobello is well known to Etsy management and I had the unfortunate luck of tangling with the wrong person. A very dangerous person who is risking many peoples right to make a decent and honest living. It’s wrong! It’s shameful! Even if this costs me my Etsy shop I will speak out the truth! Etsy is knowingly allowing this Portobello to defraud other Etsy members. You’ve been told and warned about her many, many times! How many brides has she scammed? She has 100% positive feedback. Those poor brides don’t even know they’ve been scammed! They think they are buying items “handmade with love” when in fact they are really purchasing commercially-mass produced items. How can you let this fraud continue? Is it even legal to continue? You worry about my 1 very polite convo but you allow this woman to defraud THOUSANDS? Is that right? Does that make any sense at all?

    I have little doubt that this email will bring trouble for me. If speaking out the truth causes Etsy to sanction me further than so be it. I believe in the truth and I believe that eventually ALL things come to light. I’m not quite sure why she’s been able to get away with defrauding so many people for so many years (One look at her shop PROVES this beyond any doubt!) but I don’t believe it will stay hidden forever. One day the truth will come to light, and when that day comes Etsy will have to answer to why they knowingly allowed it to continue.

    Although I don’t believe it will change a thing yes, I would very much like to speak with your supervisor. I do appreciate your taking the time to write back to me Brittany and I do not blame you personally. I’m sure I’m just one more Etsy member who’s case fell on your desk. I don’t take that personally. You have your rules and I should have known and not simply assumed that because others were allowed to do it to me (send policing convos) I was also allowed to do it as well. As I said, it won’t happen again. I’ve said my peace and spoke my truth now I just want to go back to my life. I will never contact Portobello or any other Etsy member unless it’s about business or solicited convo.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.
    Allyson

  29. freckleyredhead June 28, 2011 at 5:44 am #

    Bravo Allyson! Please keep us updated. I’d love to hear if you ever receive a response to your email.

  30. Allyson James June 28, 2011 at 7:44 am #

    Thank you @freckleyredhead! I haven’t received a reply yet but I’ll post it here if I do. I wouldn’t be surprised if they found some reason to close my shop but hopefully I’m just a tiny speck in the sand. My Etsy shop isn’t bringing in the big bucks but I still love all the (mostly) wonderful people I’ve met through it and even some of my customers have become friends. Most of my income comes from my website but I truly love the Etsy “artisans”, In fact most of what I make at Etsy goes right back into Etsy. 🙂 Have a wonderful day!

  31. Allyson James June 28, 2011 at 8:04 am #

    Ooops! I did actually receive a reply back from Etsy, I thought I’d already posted this one but I hadn’t. I asked why Portobello didn’t contact me FIRST and ask me not to write her again. I wondered why Etsy was allowing her to break their own rule. They responded;

    “portobello received numerous messages from multiple members in a very short time span. Therefore, we found it necessary to respond much more swiftly and assist her by intervening instead of requiring her to ask multiple people not to write to her again.”

    Seriously? Portobello received so many convos BECAUSE she’s been defrauding so MANY people!!! They are actually bragging about, “assisting HER.” This is beyond wrong! This is appalling on so many levels. This reply from Etsy just proves that they have no excuse for not knowing what’s going on. They KNOW and don’t CARE! I don’t know why this has upset me so much or why I’m taking this so personally but for some reason it’s just making me disgusted with Etsy. I have to think about if I even want my shop associated with it anymore. I am admittedly too sensitive and I think I just need to get a thicker skin. 🙂 This IS the business world after all, and money can make some people shady.

    Anyway, here is Etsy’s reply to me,

    Hello Allyson,

    I hope this message finds you well. In most cases of member disagreement where a member feels harassed, we do indeed ask that they first the other member to stop contacting them. However, this is usually a matter between two members who have not been involved in any other disputes.

    In this case, portobello received numerous messages from multiple members in a very short time span. Therefore, we found it necessary to respond much more swiftly and assist her by intervening instead of requiring her to ask multiple people not to write to her again. I hope you understand that we always make decisions such as this in an effort to keep Etsy safe and comfortable for both our buyers and sellers.

    If you have specific information to provide us with to report a member selling items they have not made, you can always send this information to integrity@etsy.com. We will then be able to properly investigate your claim immediately.

    Best,
    Brittany
    Etsy Trust & Safety
    http://www.etsy.com/policy/dosdonts

  32. Whisperia June 28, 2011 at 9:54 am #

    @Allyson James

    I was checking out your Etsy shop and you have some lovely items. I just want to make sure I understand the nature of the business that you’re running. I’m noticing that your items are for sale on numerous websites, and on your own website you refer to your shop being curated. Are you a collective? Are you commissioning artists to design for you? Are the items handmade, or mass produced? I’m really not trying to be confrontational, but I want to understand what differentiates your business from Portobello’s.

  33. Allyson Foote June 28, 2011 at 11:49 am #

    Wow! Okay, I’m certainly happy to explain the differences between my shop and Portobello.

    I am a supplies shop. My listings are in the supplies Catagory. Some are handmade supplies but most are commercial supplies. ALL are allowed by Etsy! I am very clear and open and my tagline even states that I’m a “supplies” shop. Other designers and even some brides buy and use my supplies to make their own DIY items. Mostly bridal. The only thing I make myself are my crystal letters.

    Portobello is NOT a supplies shop! She claims ALL of her items are completely made by her. From the design process to completion she takes credit for all of it! She states on every single listing that every piece is “Handmade With Love” by her. Her items are not listed as supplies they are listed as handmade completed items and most are clearly mislabeled. Nothing, not one piece says commercial. The fraud comes in when brides or customers buy portobellos items believing they are designed by her, made by her and even copyrighted by her. This isn’t true, she’s not the designer or the manufacturer. And she lies about it. That’s fraud.

    A lot of people don’t think supplies should be allowed on Etsy. I understand their reasoning for it. But for now Etsy allows it. My items are supplies and listed as supplies. Every single one of my customers knows EXACTLY what they are buying and it’s listed on my tag line, my policies and even my listings. I supply the DIY bride or designer.

    I hope this answers your question. Please feel free to ask anything else. My shop is fairly new (since January) and since that time I’ve made a few mistakes, I have always immediately corrected anything Etsy has asked me to. Certainly there ARE gray areas but with their new listing change it’s made it even easier to list items accurately. That’s one change I applaud.

  34. Allyson Foote June 28, 2011 at 12:00 pm #

    Also, and this is important…I don’t quite know what your referring to when you say my items are. “for sale on numerous websites, and on your own website you refer to your shop being curated.” First of all any handmade items you see on my website have the PERMISSION of the artist and/or designer. ALL designers are given proper credit for their designs. I do not claim to make ANYTHING! I have legal agreements with every single one! I have permission for every single photo! Everyone who buys on my website KNOWS who designed and made the item.

    Just to be very clear, I would never list anything on my website or in my shop and say I made it if I didn’t. I give credit to the rightful designer and anything i use is used with their legal permission! THATS the biggest difference!

    Thanks!

  35. Whisperia June 28, 2011 at 12:07 pm #

    Ah, I understand. I’m cool with the supplies thing (I’ve bought some myself through Etsy). Thanks for taking the time to explain.

  36. Allyson James June 28, 2011 at 12:17 pm #

    Your welcome @Whisperia! I hope I didn’t seem too abrubt, I am always happy to clear up any misconceptions and can see how you might be confused and question a few things. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to explain. 🙂

  37. Whisperia June 28, 2011 at 12:25 pm #

    No, you weren’t abrupt at all. I’d just missed that your stuff was tagged as supplies is all.

  38. BCareybun. June 30, 2011 at 4:56 pm #

    @Allyson James

    I find it funny that you join this call out discussion, when two of your previous shops have been closed down twice by Etsy for reselling and you have many items that you have listed this year deleted by Etsy. Isn’t this the Pot calling the Kettle black…..hmmmm very interesting.

  39. Allyson Foote June 30, 2011 at 7:28 pm #

    I have NEVER had a shop shut down by Etsy! Please do not slander my name and reputation again. Check your facts before you accuse someone publically. I had a previous shop that was run by my husband and myself. Because we changed our business name and opened a website we wanted the 2 names to match. You have to close your shop to change the name so we CHOOSE to shut it down and reopen under our new name! Again to be clear, I have never had a shop closed by Etsy or anyone else! I have never had a problem with Etsy EVER except for this Portobello incident and there have been 2 times I have been asked to change a listing. As I have said, I’m not perfect and some of Ety’s rules are gray and a bit confusing. Especially when they only apply to certain people. I have made a mistake or two with improperly listing a few items. This was not intentional and I fixed it as soon as it was brought to my attention. I’m human… But I’m an honest human and I take any slander of my character very seriously. If someone has honest feedback or advice I welcome it. As long as it’s given with the right motive. I have much to learn about business. I’m returning to the business world after a 16 year break to raise my family. Nothing is the same and parts have been a bit overwhelming. But I follow all of Etsy’s rules to the best of my knowledge. Something tells me your one of those that believes Etsy should not allow commercial supplies. i can understand that viewpoint but for now Etsy allows it! My shop is a bridal trim & embellishment shop selling handmade AND commercial supplies. They are all listed as such. I clearly state it in my policies and even in the listings themselves. I have never claimed to be the designer of my items. I supply designers and wedding gown designers with high end trims, laces, embellishments. I’m proud of the quality I offer and love my customers. I have a tiny part where I make monogram toppers mostly as a hobby and those are listed where they should be. I don’t know how you can accuse me when I am clearly NOT doing what you’ve claimed. Wait, what are you claiming exactly? What are you accusing me of exactly?

    The sad thing is I had ZERO issues until I began to reach out to the community. I enjoyed the wonderful friendships I built but I wasn’t involved on any boards, blogs, etc. The first week I reach out on Etsy’s forum and even on here and all he’ll breaks loose. What’s going on? Maybe someone isn’t happy with my stirring the pot and is trying to discredit me. Intimidate me even? I think my skins too thin for the cattiness and unfounded accusations. I’m going to crawl back into my cozy hole with my few trusted friends and stay away from the “big players” it’s just not worth the stress of having to defend myself when I’ve done nothing wrong. Remember just because someone accuses doesn’t always make it true. Our words and our posts have real consequences for real people. I’m just a Mom trying to make a few extra dollars I don’t need this drama in my life. I realize I opened myself up to it by speaking out but I wasn’t prepared for the way people love to tear eachother down. Focus on the people who are intentionally defrauding and not someone who made an unintended mistake or two. Unless you have proof of your ugly accusations (and you don’t because it’s not true) please leave me alone and go pick on someone else.

  40. Allyson James July 1, 2011 at 11:45 am #

    Oops… I just noticed my post had my name (Allyson Foote) rather that my shop name (Allyson James). They are both me, sorry if this caused any confusion. Just to be clear the post above by Allyson Foote is by Allyson James and they are one and the same. And neither has had shops closed by Etsy. 😉

  41. BCareybun. July 5, 2011 at 3:09 am #

    @Allyson James

    I do have my facts correct, because I was the one who flagged your shop. I have kept all the emails that I had sent to Etsy admin, and I have kept Etsy’s replies as well. I have it in black and white. ……………………….”Thank you for bringing this to our attention. The shop has been closed by the Content team”…….hmmmmm do you remember now.

    Maybe you should check your first sale in your Etsy shop you have open now……ummm reseller….um….. not handmade, um….not supplies….um….not stating somebody else has made it….. you even use the wholesaler’s photos…

    very interesting.

  42. Allyson James July 7, 2011 at 2:21 pm #

    No, you need to check your facts before you start sladering someone! I have NEVER had a shop closed by Etsy or anyone else! You have NO way of even knowing who I am as my former shop was not under my name or anything close to what it is now. And again to be PERFECTLY clear I closed 1 previous shop on my own simply because I wanted to change names as I was moving in an entirely different business direction. My last shop had nothing to do with my present shop, I didn’t even sale the same things. I wasn’t even really in business back then. It was a tiny shop I had as a hobby with a few minuscule sales. I was never even in trouble with Etsy. I haven’t got a clue what your talking about but you obviously have me mistaken with someone else. You saved the emails? Really? That was years ago! Seriously? Look, I’ve never done anything to you. I don’t even know who you are. Leave me alone!!! I’ve done nothing wrong in my last shop and more IMPORTANTLY I am doing nothing wrong in my current shop. I am following Etsy’s rules, even the ones I don’t like or are unfair. There is no doubt in my mind that with this strange and unwarranted vendetta you have against me that if I were doing something wrong you would be alerting Etsy. I feel as though I’m almost being stalked by you! Are you really Portobello? Anyone can say anything on these blogs. That doesn’t make it true. You are spreading lies about me for NO REASON! What have I EVER done to you to cause you to be so bitter and hateful? I’m a Mom and a wife and yes I make a few extra dollars to help support my family. I don’t have time or even the energy to keep fighting you. Your wrong it’s just that simple. But you are certainly welcome to think whatever you want. I know the truth! The people in my life know the truth and the God I serve knows the truth. Please go pick on someone else. Or better yet? Do something worthwhile. Spend your time going after people who are committing fraud or doing somethin wrong. in ALL your effort to what? I’m not really sure? Discredit me? Embarrass me? You’ve never actually given a legitimate call out/issue. You just keep claiming I had a shop that was closed? For mistagging? Sometime in the PAST? it’s justt not true but that’s not even the point. What am I doing wrong NOW? In your eyes? What reason do you have to call me out??? I have no doubt you,ve gone over my shop with a fine tooth comb LOOKING for ways to hurt me. And I’m not perfect, I may well have made mistakes BUT I am not doing anything wrong to the best of my knowledge. I do my best to live a good life and be a good person and I would never, accuse someone without the facts. That’s shameful! And lastly? There is NO way Etsy would send you an email regarding anything personally to do with another member. I’ve flagged shops….. I’ve never received letters from Etsy over a simple flag. Even with the serious and ongoing issues with Portobello Etsy does not reveal personal details that is between them and Portobello. There are privacy laws and Etsy has not broken those that I’m aware of. You know my hubby asks why I even bother to respond to you, especially when your posts have attracted NO attention. No ones even bothered to comment. Were all so quick to attack but what about supporting someone who’s being wrongfully accused? I’ve worked HARD to build a good reputation! My integrity means everything to me and it hurts when someone…..a stranger no less, accuses you of something you haven’t done. If I leave your posts unanswered I’m allowing you to attack me but by responding I’m probably just egging you own. Life is short and it’s precious and you and I are never going to agree. So I’m asking you again to please just leave me alone. People can read our posts (or not) and make their own decisions. I think when I stood up against Etsy I stepped on the wrong toes and this was the backlash I was warned about. It’s actually pretty pathetic but whatever I have the truth on my side.

  43. ohmeohmy July 7, 2011 at 2:29 pm #

    Allyson,

    I would just ignore this person. Really.

  44. Allyson James July 7, 2011 at 3:02 pm #

    @ohmeohmy, thank you and I agree! 🙂 I can’t tell you how much this has hurt me! I know I need to get thicker skin but ouch! I don’t understand why people have to be so petty and pick out even the tiniest things. Out and out fraud is one thing, blatantly abusing the rules or making the same mistakes over and over I can understand why we need call outs. But am I the only one who has unintentionally listed things in the wrong places?

    I do need to clarify one point @ BCareybun brought up because for some reason I didn’t see it when I wrote my last post so in the interest of truth…. @ BCareybun is correct about one thing; The very first sale in my new shop was indeed listed wrong. Etsy alerted me to it (They were actually very nice about it I must say and even worked with me to figure out the right way to list my items.) They explained I was not allowed to list finished products as supplies. I apologized and immediately removed the listing! The issue was closed! As I have said all along…I’m not perfect and I have made a few unintentional mistakes, with unintentional being the key word. The moment I was aware it was against the rules I removed it. But I have NEVER intentionally or knowingly mislabeled. I have never had a shop closed by Etsy or anyone else!!!! Let alone the 2 shops she claims! That is just NOT true! I have never defrauded anyone! @ BCareybun is wrong about me claiming the item was handmade. My listing says, ” Allyson James Designs are finely crafted using the highest quality materials for a chic, up-to-the-minute style that is both trend setting and old world romantic.” That is NOT claiming I made something! The last line of the listing said, “For our collection of handcrafted Jewelry from designers all over the country please visit us at http://www.allysonjames.net.” I DO carry handcrafted items from designers all over the world on my website. I have legal agreements with these designers and they are all given proper credit. And Yes, I now know that to put your web address on a listing is wrong as well. (I”m surprised @ BCareybun didn’t catch that!) Again, it was my first listing and I made a mistake. It wasn’t my first and I’m sure it won’t be my last. But I will always do my best to stay within the guidelines. And I am always HONEST and any of my wonderful customers can tell you that. @ BCareybun would you like to shoot me now too? Or is that not humiliating enough? Perhaps a public flogging?

    So once again you are speaking of issues in the PAST! Issues that have already been dealt with and been corrected!!!

  45. ohmeohmy July 7, 2011 at 5:02 pm #

    Hi Allyson,

    I was looking at your dot com and was wondering who makes the fascinators and veils? Do you have another shop on etsy because a few of the models I have seen before on etsy in bridal shops.

  46. ohmeohmy July 7, 2011 at 5:05 pm #

    Like this model. She is on etsy: http://www.allysonjames.net/item_172/SANDRINE–Grecian-Rhinestone-Stand-Headband.htm

  47. ohmeohmy July 7, 2011 at 5:10 pm #

    This model too: http://www.allysonjames.net/item_394/Elegant-Long-Bird-Cage-Veil-on-2-comb..htm

  48. ohmeohmy July 7, 2011 at 5:42 pm #

    And this shop has all the models: http://www.etsy.com/shop/UntamedPetals?ref=seller_info

  49. Allyson James July 7, 2011 at 6:03 pm #

    Yes, a small portion of my designers also have shops on Etsy. Others are bigger brand names sold all over the web and others are just private sources/artists I have found on my own. I have legal agreements with each designer and/or company who is on my website and permission to use their photo’s and sell their products. I own the website! I am not the designer! Nowhere on the website do I claim to be the designer, all credit goes to my wonderful and talented designers! 🙂 All of the designers names should be on the listing and/or if you press the order button it will take you to the cart where the designers name will be listed. My designers names are also listed on the “Our Designers” page. A brief bio is given on each one, the only exception would be newer lines which I have not had the time to update. The first link your provided is one of my newest designers and her products are still in the process of being uploaded so not everything is completed. The other is from a bigger name vendor and they are listed on my designers page.

    I am happy to answer any questions you or anyone else may have through my website or business email regrading issues related to my website. However as this is a “call out blog” I don’t feel it’s appropriate to discuss these things on here. Unless you are “calling me out about an Etsy issue”? This is an “Etsy” Call out blog and my website is my own private property and not subject to the rules of Etsy. Please forgive me for taking offense if none is intended and I do so appreciate your kind previous post. This has been a pretty rough day for me and I feel positively beaten up and exhausted. Please understand I’m over sensitive right now, It’s just I’m tired of having to defend myself when I’m doing nothing wrong. I think (and this is to everyone including myself) we should first contact the person in private to get our facts before we call them out in public on a blog or post links to their personal websites that have nothing to do with Etsy. If the person is doing something wrong then by all means…..Call them out. If I’m doing something wrong….Call me out! But after the hell I’ve been through the last week I’ve learned I’m going to give the person the benefit of the doubt from now on. Until I’ve done proper research and contacted them privately first to give them the opportunity to explain themselves I’m going to keep what I “think” I know to myself.

    As I mentioned in my first post, I never had any issues or problems until I started posting on here and my 1 single post on the Etsy forum. That was my mistake and I couldn’t regret it more! But now that people have started focusing on me I have no choices but to defend myself. It’s like once people know about you they start “hunting” for every little mistake or issue they can call you on and in my opinion that’s just not right. To even be named on this blog is NOT a positive thing so that’s why I’d rather not discuss anything having to do with my business on here. Does that make sense? My website is ran with the highest integrity and I follow all proper copyright laws. NOTHING GETS LISTED ON MY WEBSITE UNLESS THE DESIGNER HAS GIVEN ME THEIR SIGNED PERMISSION! Since I started posting here last week I’ve had several designers call to tell me they’ve had people writing them to tell them about me, “stealing” their photo’s and/or “designs”…… They think it’s funny but it’s not funny to me! These people are wasting all of our time!!!! Almost a year and nothing like this has EVER happened but the first week on this blog and all hell breaks loose? It can’t just be a coincidence. None of us have the time or energy for this kind of negativity!!!! Just because a person has a shop on Etsy does not mean they cannot also sell on other websites or to other website owners. Etsy does not own the shops or the designs! The agreements between my designers and I is private and between the 2 of us! I’m not a complete idiot, to put products on my website without permission is business suicide and would leave me and my family open to total financial devastation. Why would I do that?

    @ohmeohmy, this is not all directed at you, please know that. I am again, very, very sorry I have misunderstood your post or taken it in the wrong manner. I am so frustrated I can’t even begin to tell you. But like I said, just being on this blog is not good so I don’t know how else to take it? Especially when it’s not even about my Etsy shop. And this is the 3rd time in this thread over the last week I have been questioned or accused. I do thank you very much for not accusing me as @BCareybun did. You gave me an opportunity to explain how my website works and I thank you for that, that shows your integrity.

    I don’t know how much clearer I can be and I hope things will quiet down now…..But I won’t hold my breathe. LOL! As soon as it does however? I will not be posting on “call out type” blogs again. Ever! I’m going to continue doing what I love and focus on the positive and good. I don’t think I’m the kind of person who’s cut out for this kind of thing. I know were not supposed to take it personally but for some reason I just do.

  50. ohmeohmy July 7, 2011 at 6:33 pm #

    Hi Allyson,

    I would suggest for your website to also include the designers in each listing and that you have premission to use their photos.

    You can do it with an (*) after describing the veil, headpiece, on the bottom of each listing or whatever you call it.etc. It’s neater that way and protects you in the end.

    It’s great you have the list of designers, and putting them in the listing itself, will save you many headaches down the road.

    Don’t worry about the poster–might have even been portobello. No need to defend your honor as it makes peeps start examining your items, if there is too much drama.

    I would suggest not to post anymore and let stuff blow over.

    Portobello is protected by etsy with her best seller status, so it’s a pointless circle to chase your tail. She has no sense of integrity or moral compass.

  51. ohmeohmy July 7, 2011 at 6:35 pm #

    The reason to do this, is anytime you feature work not by yourself or photos not your own, even if it is off esty and reselling is allowed, it is to your benefit for legal reasons and to gain the trust of all your customers by being transparent.

  52. ohmeohmy July 7, 2011 at 6:39 pm #

    You can put something like:

    *This piece was designed by _____ who will create your piece. She has graciously allowed me to use her picture.

  53. BCareybun. July 7, 2011 at 8:49 pm #

    Hello,

    Looks like a reseller shop has just opened up. http://www.etsy.com/shop/allysonjames?ref=seller_info

    Here are some items that I know of that are factory made, I’m sure there are other examples.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/61744769/oval-crystal-bridal-brooch-in-intricite

    you can buy from this wholesaler http://www.ajfashionworld.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=730

    Reseller http://www.etsy.com/listing/61746231/crystal-gold-or-silver-bridal-wreathe

    you can buy here http://cgi.ebay.com.au/CLEAR-SWAROVSKI-CRYSTAL-WREATH-BROOCH-PIN-/160507561676?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255eff06cc

    Reseller http://www.etsy.com/listing/61745289/crystal-flower-bouquet-bridal-brooch

    You can buy it here. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Wedding-Bling-Rhinestone-crystal-Pin-Brooch-PI01-/260687359720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb22d6ee8

    Reseller http://www.etsy.com/listing/61744358/ribbon-flower-crystal-bridal-brooch

    you can buy it here http://www.ajfashionworld.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=48_44&products_id=868

    Oh my goodness, I can go on but I don’t have the time, this is just the brooch section, all the other sections is a reseller too, it’s so obviously not handmade or altered, everything else is a commercial product that I’ve seen before and I just don’t have the time to find it all to show you.

    Please get rid of this new reseller.

    Thank you

  54. Allyson James July 7, 2011 at 9:54 pm #

    @ohmeohmy I believe that your motives in this are good, and that you are truly trying to be helpful and for that I thank you. You seem like a good person with a lot of knowledge. I have much to learn and I’m not above learning it, accepting advice or even correcting a mistake. I will certainly consider your advice but I’m confused and I don’t understand your reasoning. Will you allow me to explain? And if you want to continue this conversation off Etsy call out I would be more than happy to hear your advice, but if you put it on here publicly I feel I have no choice but to respond publicly is that fair?

    Nordstrom, Macy’s, Walmart, Kmart, Target and millions of smaller boutiques all over the world sell items by different designers both in their store fronts and on their websites. The designers of these products are listed on the heading of the listing or in the body of the listing or on the merchandise tags themselves, unless it’s a private branding agreement which is a whole other ball game. You mention I should add to my listings; “I have permission to use this photo or I am selling this product with the designers permission.” But no well known company that I know of does this and why should they? The very fact that the product is on the website or in the store is the assumption that permission has been given. It’s a legal definition and my attorney has gone over each one with a fine tooth comb. If permission had not in fact been given I and these companies would be sued and could loose everything. I feel like I’ve said this over and over but I need to say it again….. I have an entire page devoted to my designers showcasing their talents! I put out Twitters showcasing each designer and making sure to call them by name! Blogs have written about my website and I make absolutely sure each designer is credited! How much more transparent could I possibly be? Even higher end stores like Nordstrom don’t go to the level I have. The focus is on Nordstrom and not the individual designer as it should be and there is nothing wrong with me promoting my website the same way. The only difference between me and Nordstrom and the millions of others shops just like them is that I’m a tiny grain of sand in the ocean compared to them. Again, I honestly don’t get how I’m not being transparent?

    Every company and designer has a different agreement with their vendors. Each one requires something different and you have no way of knowing what that agreement is unless you are one of the principles. It’s really not anyone else s business to be honest. Not every company or designer requires you to list their name on the listing or even on the website. Do you know how many large websites do not put designers names in the listings? They don’t want their customers to be able to price shop so they don’t list the names. I would never do this because of the fact I think it’s a bad business practice and somewhat shady. But if the designer is okay with not being listed than that’s between the website/company owner and the designer and no one else.

    I’ve met the legal requirements for carrying the items I carry on my website. I have a valid business license and a valid re-sellers license and I pay my taxes. On my own, voluntarily I go beyond even that as far as promoting my designers and giving them credit and recognition. I’m PROUD to carry them!!! I’m PROUD to be associated with them! I WANT my customers to know whose products and designs I carry!!! And still… still it’s not enough to stop people from criticizing me. My designers are happy with me! My customers are happy with me! My lawyer and my accountant are all okay with me. My kids, my hubby, my friends, even my dog-LOL is proud of me! But it’s not enough? I don’t get it. I don’t understand what there is to criticize about my website? It means everything to me and I’ve worked SO hard you have no idea so yes, I take this very personally and it’s beyond hurtful!

    On top of all this I don’t get why we are still talking about my WEBSITE. This is an ETSY call out forum. My Etsy shop and my website have NOTHING to do with each other other than share the same name. (Maybe I should change the name?….but then I’d have to close my shop again and be accused that Etsy shut me down. I can’t win! I just cannot win no matter what I do.) I don’t sell the products that are on my website in my Etsy shop! Could this be the misunderstanding perhaps? My website is a bridal & event jewelry and accessories boutique and my Etsy shop is a fabric, trim and embellishment supplies shop. I would LOVE to include my website address on my Etsy shop….What great advertising! But Etsy won’t let me! You are only required to mention other Etsy shops you are involved with not other business’s. I was told I am not allowed to put my website information or promote it on my Etsy shop? Am I wrong? If I am please tell me and I will splash my website address all over my Etsy shop…. My website is not subjected to the rules of Etsy (Thank God!), they can not tell me what I can or cannot do.

    My website shouldn’t even be mentioned on this blog. (Mods??? Am I wrong????) but I don’t want to appear like I don’t care because I do. Portobello and many of the people that are called out never respond and I didn’t want to do that. You mention drama and I couldn’t agree more! I am so sick and tired of all the drama! But I didn’t start it! If I am accused of something what am I to do? Should I have just ignored the first accusation? Than I’d be no better than Portobello. I have nothing to hide and I AM being transparent in going out of my way to explain every little detail and why my website and Etsy shop are 2 very different things. There is the Etsy world and then there is the REAL business world and the 2 are very different in my opinion. Not everything is about Etsy! My website is NOT about Etsy so please, please, please can we just move on from that?

    Look if you want to criticize my Etsy shop go ahead…..everyone else has. (Uh that was a little dramatic because actually 3 people are not everyone else, thankfully. LOL) But it FEELS like everyone else……… Again, I’m a real person and I have real feelings and believe it or not I’m a very nice person who would never knowingly want to hurt or offend anyone. When I make mistakes I own up to them and do my best to never make the same ones. I correct the mistake and I move on…. What more can I do??? What more can any of us do???

    When I’m being accused of something I don’t believe is warranted I can’t help but fight back….and respond to these posts. Is that wrong? But I am getting very, very weary and emotionally exhausted by all this….. I’m torn by wanting to just ignore it and needing to defend my integrity against hurtful and untrue allegations. But I don’t know how much more of this I can take…. So just to be clear??? If I don’t respond in the future you all are welcome to believe what ever you want to. But please don’t believe everything just because it’s posted on a blog. And please remember that behind these posts are real people with real families and real feelings.

    I wish everyone the best and I’m sorry for going on and on and on….I know it’s long and wordy but I’m frustrated and hurt and this is the best I can do.

  55. Allyson James July 7, 2011 at 11:40 pm #

    @BCareybun. I am getting really, really tired of you vendetta against me!!! What is your problem???? I am ALLOWED TO sell commercial items on etsy!!!!!!! Do you not understand this????? I am allowed to sell factory made commercial items on Etsy!!!!!! Do you not understand this???? That is why Etsy has a commercial supplies section!!!!!!!! Do you not understand this???? You may not like it and you may not agree with it but Etsy allows me to sell these items as commercial supplies!!!! ALL the products you have listed links to are ALL listed as COMMERCIAL SUPPLIES in my shop!!!! They are all properly listed!!!! What are you talking about not being “handcrafted or even altered???” Seriously???? Who ever said they were handcrafted or altered???? Not me!!!! I sell COMMERCIAL SUPPLIES!!!! A few are indeed handmade but they are not handmade by me and I list that in every listing!!!! I have never claimed to make anything!!!! I’m a supplies shop!!!!! You are misleading people and I am getting beyond sick of it!!!! Is this what you do with your days??? Try to destroy people you know nothing about???? Accuse and gossip and slander???? Shame on you!!!! You have no idea what your talking about……… Go read the rules on Etsy regarding COMMERCIAL SUPPLIES!!! Selling commercial supplies whether they are made in a factory or in a high end boutique is not a crime and it is certainly not against Etsy rules. You make it sound like I have cheap foreign items in my shop and I don’t, how dare you! I take pride in the beautiful supplies I sell. The majority of the trims in my shop ARE indeed finely “handcrafted” but because I am so careful and I did not make them myself I list them in the commercial category just to be safe and not have people like you attacking everything I do.

    I guess that’s why when I go to list my “commercial supplies” on Etsy a little pop down window asks me who made this item? I check the choice for “another person or company”, Next I’m asked “what it is” and I check, “A SUPPLY OR TOOL TO MAKE THINGS”, Next I’m asked, “when it was made” and I answer that…2011…or 2010… Then we move down to the question “Categories” and I’m AUTOMATICALLY PUT IN SUPPLIES!!!, Then I’m asked the important question, “what type of item….Again this is where I put “COMMERCIAL” In 90% of the cases. For a small portion that ARE handmade I list handmade. Next we move on to what the item is and I put what it is…………Are you following all this???? It’s not rocket science. And I’m doing what wrong exactly????? How am I misleading people???? And please use current examples…….Save us all some time.

    Do you have a shop on Etsy @BCareybun? Have you ever even sold anything on Etsy???? If I’m not allowed to sell commercial supplies then why in the heck does Etsy have categories for me to sell in???? Get your facts straight please!!!!

    I don’t make nearly enough money for Etsy to protect me like they do Portobello. If I were doing what you say I am doing I would be closed!!!! And it would be for the FIRST TIME!!!!!! I’ve stood up to Etsy for their allowing Portobello to continue and they would love a reason to close me down. Portobello does not list her items as commercial supplies she lists them as handmade and says “she makes them with love” Do you not understand the difference?????? She is not a supplies shop!!!!! She lies!!!! She doesn’t list commercial items as commercial???? Hello???

    Why is this being allowed to continue??? Are there any mods out there???? It’s almost 4:00 am so I apologize for the typos and I apologize for my frustration but I’ve been at this all day defending myself from this hateful person. If she was being truthful it would be one thing but she’s not!!!! She’s misleading everyone and I don’t deserve it… What she’s doing to me is no better than what Portobello is doing to others….. Both are misleading and both have the facts wrong.

    Now go live your life and LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!

  56. Allyson James July 7, 2011 at 11:59 pm #

    I just checked @BCareybun links…………nearly every link goes to a page that says, Uh oh, listing is gone…….. Or it goes to a page with a broken link. Or it goes to a company I don’t use!!! The ONLY link that goes to my shop is the first link that goes to my front page. Nothing else in her links ties to my shop…NOTHING! Why doesn’t she have even one valid listing link? Why can’t she find anything current? Does anyone else see what she’s doing??? I will do whatever it takes to prove she is trying to discredit me. I don’t know how she’s doing it and I don’t know how she’s using links that don’t go anywhere but she’s doing it. I don’t know what she could possibly have against me other than she’s Portobello or someone from Etsy leadership team. Maybe I’m being paranoid but this is beyond crazy! I’ve never had anything like this happen before and it’s devastating to me. I am begging someone to please help me!!! I will be happy to answer to anyone and have an honest dialog to prove that I am a good, honest person and I am not doing what @BCareybun is accusing me off. To the best of my knowledge every single listing in my shop is compliant with Etsy rules. If I’ve made a mistake I will own up to it and I will fix it but I will not be accused of things I am not guilty of. What in the world could make this woman hate me and go on such a vindictive which hunt?

    What is the point of a call out if you don’t give anyway for us to prove our innocence??? There has to be some way so that people can’t just say whatever they want and hurt innocent people. This must have taken her hours to pursue me like this! It’s crazy and it honestly scares me! She scares me! Am I being dramatic………maybe but all I know is I’m at my wits end, I’m tired, I’m frustrated and I feel helpless at her continued and unending attacks???? How much is too much??? When does it stop???? Should I simply ignore her as I’ve been advised??? But then anyone can read this 5 years from now, 10 years from now and if I haven’t even attempted to defend myself??? How does that look??? What am I supposed to DO????

  57. Allyson James July 8, 2011 at 12:07 am #

    Oh and by the way…. And this is kind of funny. I don’t even have a brooch section! I don’t sell brooches!!! Brooches are a finished item and cannot be sold in supplies. I sell closures, buckles and ornaments but they do not have a pin or attachment on the back and must be sewn on to the garmet. And that’s just one of her inconsistencies. There are many!!!!

  58. BCareybun. July 8, 2011 at 3:56 am #

    The broken links are cries of guilt…….

    That’s because Etsy has taken all those brooch listing down as they were not handmade and they were not classified as supplies. They were your brooch listings. The Uh-Ohs are because Etsy has removed them.
    I remember a lot of things about your shop.

    The pot calling the kettle black…….dare I say it again.
    How funny one can dish it but one can’t take it.

    I’m not Portobello, If I were Portobello I would be too embarrassed to even post in here. It’s rather disgusting how Etsy does turn a blind eye for some.
    I’m just a person who is always flagging and who remembers…… and one who thinks its hilarious how one rambles on.

  59. BCareybun. July 8, 2011 at 4:01 am #

    Does this ring a bell. You use to sell brooches.

    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/43702376

    and

    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/43652798

    These are two items that you sold, unfortunately for you these sold brooches will stay permanently in your shop. The rest were deleted by Etsy admin.

  60. ohmeohmy July 8, 2011 at 7:14 am #

    I am sorry if I caused you any angsts, Allyson. It is not clear that the bridal veils and such are made by someone else on your dot com. No, not reselling, but giving the designer credit in the listings. That’s all I was talking about. And I was trying to be helpful. And you are right. You are not required to do so since you have a separate area for that.

    I’m an etsy shop owner so of course I recognize the pics. A buyer who has nothing to do with etsy would not. So please take my comments with that thought in mind and that I meant you no harm.

    Bcarey, on the other hand, I have no idea why the meddling and the bad links. Allyson is a supply seller so not sure what you are trying to prove. Her store seems on the up and up and totally etsy legal. Beautiful store too.

    And portobello has irked me for years. But I have realzied that nothing will become of it, sadly.

  61. Allyson James July 8, 2011 at 11:48 am #

    @ohmeohmy thank you! No you didn’t cause me any angst in fact your posts were thoughtful and intelligent. I do see your point and I will take your advice into consideration. I owe you an apology for being much too sensitive, I’m afraid I was taking out my frustration on @BCareybun on you. I’m sorry! Thank you for everything you said it’s much appreciated. I guess the very reason no one else is even commenting is they recognize @BCareybun for what she is. A lot of hot air with no substance. I just want you to know I do credit the designer on my website listings. Yes, there is that one big wedding factory that does not have a single designer. They only require me to give them credit somewhere on my website (I do it in the bio page) and not on each listing so that is the only reason they are the one exception. (And by the way I do not sell anything from them in my Etsy shop) I’m trying to phase their products slowly out because as you said, they are sold “everywhere” including on Etsy. But believe it or not for a bride who doesn’t have a big budget they make decent stuff and have always treated me very good. Anyway I just wanted you to know that for what it’s worth. I appreciate any advice you’d like to give me. In fact your totally welcome to go through my Etsy shop, if you see anything that looks like it may be listed wrong or anything else please let me know. I’m always willing to make changes and improvements and Its very important for me to run an honest shop and that my customers know exactly what they are getting. I appreciate people like you who have good motives and the intent to help rather than “others” whose only goal is to tear down and slander. Thank you from the bottom of my heart! I wish there were more people like you both on this board and in the Etsy world.

    @BCareybun: I owe you an apology too……But only for letting you get me so upset. I can’t believe I spent the entire night upset and devastated over what some kook thinks. Over your lies! I’m sorry to be so blunt but I think I’ve taken just about enough from you. I’m over it! First, Etsy has not removed anything in my shop!!!! Just as they never closed my shop. I have certainly removed items on my own once I was told they were inappropriately listed or did not meet the supplies standard. And this was in the beginning when my shop first opened. Yes, brooches used to be in my shop. USED to be to is the key word!!!! Once again your resorting to PAST listings as you can find anything CURRENT! Key word here is PAST! That is very telling! I’ve admitted over and over on these posts that I made mistakes in the beginning. That I did indeed list things in the wrong places. Etsy never removed anything though! They sent me an email asking me to remove the brooches and I did. I have nothing to hide and I’m not ashamed that I’m a human being who made mistakes in the beginning. What’s important to me and I hope to most normal thinking people is that none of them were intentional or have been repeated. Some of the rules on Etsy are gray and fuzzy, certainly not clear. And I’ve also made the mistake in the past that when I see something listed in a certain category that that meant it was okay for me to do it too. It wasn’t! I learned that lesson real quick! Thousands and thousands of people are breaking the rules every single day on Etsy, that doesn’t make it right. I’ve done everything I can possibly do to NOT be one of those people. I care what others think about me, I care about my reputation. Why would I knowingly do things that would only make me look bad??? Why???

    Look, if you have something current I am doing wrong??? Go ahead and bring it forward! Otherwise get off your soapbox!!! By now I’m sure you’ve spent hours or even days going over every single listing with your judging magnifying glass looking for ways to bring me down. I’m sure you flagged things, I’m expecting it! Who does that??? “Your someone who flags often?” Get a life please! Stop attacking those of us who are sincerely trying to improve and be the best we can be and just make a few bucks in this hard economy. What do you want from me???? When will it be enough for you to just leave me alone??? I’ve admitted everything you’ve brought forward that had the slightest basis of truth. Even though you have misled and not given the full facts, even though you have out and out lied to support your theory. Still, I’ve tried to be open and explain everything to you. I’ve given you the decency to reply when most don’t. It’s like you only see what you want to see. Are you even reading my posts???? Do you not understand that I am ALLOWED to sell commercial supplies on ETSY???? Do you not hear what people like @ohmeohmy are saying to you??? We could ALL go through OLD listings and OLD sales records and find things that were improperly listed. There are probably millions on Etsy!!! Things sold before I knew they were tagged wrong. I can’t help that, and I’m not worried about records because I have nothing to hide. How much more open can I be? Seriously? What do you want from me? Your just a mean person with alot of bitterness and that’s sad. Have you never made a mistake? Have you never did something and then after realizing it was wrong you changed and made it right? Are YOU perfect???? The same way you judge others is the same way you will be judged and I wouldn’t want to be in your shoes because you have judged extremely harshly and without ANY mercy or compassion. Have you ever heard the saying you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar? I am always open to hearing advice from people who have the right motive such as @ohmeohmy. Read her posts….Now that’s how you help someone! Get some dignity please! Start flagging people with CURRENT issues and those who are defrauding. Leave the honest ones alone!!! Leave me alone!!

    I’m going to post the email I had with Etsy about the brooches. (If I can find it) In most supplies shops on the web brooches ARE considered supplies. They are used in dozens of bridal and wedding projects. Most people BUT Etsy considers brooches supplies. Look at ANY trim/embellishment/fabric shop and you will likely find a brooch section. Many people on Ebay selling “handmade” sashes/belts simply pin a brooch on a ribbon and call that “handmade” and that’s allowed! That’s why I thought it was okay to sell brooches. Why wouldn’t I? Etsy actually allowed me to write a proposal as to why I believed brooches should be allowed in supplies. They didn’t okay it but at least they gave me the opportunity and were nice about it. So now I sell “ornaments” Ornaments do not have a pin on the back…..They are usually used to MAKE BROOCHES which is why they are a supply. It is VERY clear in each listing that nothing I sell is in a finished state. Everything is something that is used to make something else. Hence the Supplies category! Hence why you have NO basis for these posts!!!!

    Move into the present and leave the past behind. It really is a better way to live! 🙂

  62. Allyson James July 8, 2011 at 12:31 pm #

    Actually, @BCareybun: That brooch you linked to was very popular as well as some of the others in that style and I meant to inquire back then if I could have it made without the pin, therefore qualifying it as a supply. I forgot about it but thanks to you I’ve sent in a request to the company and am hoping for good news. So thanks….

  63. BCareybun. July 8, 2011 at 3:43 pm #

    You’re welcome
    🙂

    I’m bored, catch you all later.

    :0

  64. Allyson James July 8, 2011 at 7:31 pm #

    Exactly……

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