admin shop- contrary

10 Jun

This is a bit different than many of the complaints here, but I was so blown away when I noticed this today.

Admin marymary has a shop, she sells as contrary.

Get a look at the tag stuffing! Every listing!
silver metal chain
long skinny layering
porcelain bone china
doll leg parts shoes
baby brown boots
antique vintage hand
painted german eery
frozen charlotte
bisque eco friendly
recycled repurposed
weird thuringia foot
halloween creepy

Wonder if reporting this would do any good??LOL


65 Responses to “admin shop- contrary”

  1. Dee June 10, 2011 at 7:05 am #

    Don’t waste your time. Etsy is ran like Washington. They make the rules, but they don’t follow them. LOL!

  2. JW June 10, 2011 at 7:16 am #

    and this is why I tag stuff. Most of the featured sellers do it, too.

  3. Dun June 10, 2011 at 7:29 am #

    MaryMary is ignorant: She doesn’t know vintage, she doesn’t know handmade, and she doesn’t know TOUs. She can take a flying leap into a sea of mundanity.

  4. Dun June 10, 2011 at 7:30 am #

    Let’s ALL jump off the bridge with MaryMary, then. Tag stuffing is a great way not to be taken seriously.

  5. Dun June 10, 2011 at 7:31 am #

    Gee, her photos suck, too. Add ignorant of photography to that list.

  6. JW June 10, 2011 at 8:05 am #

    aw, Morgansilk, don’t hate on the pics.

  7. Life During Wartime June 10, 2011 at 9:49 am #

    I looked at other items, and not all the photos are badly focused…but most of them are, tee hee hee.

    Obviously photo quality has little to do with sales, or with having your item included in treasuries.

    And yeah…the tag stuffing sucks. The materials are almost at the rupture point as well.

  8. Nicole June 10, 2011 at 10:06 am #

    You’d think if you worked for Etsy you’d be worried about people scrutinizing your shop, and holding you to a standard to be set for others. This is why my blood doesn’t boil when I see tags like this from other sellers- if you sold something similar and were looking for a standard to base your tags on why wouldn’t you follow her example? I guess you could say least the tags are all relevant and not ‘purse shirt pants table’

  9. you suck June 10, 2011 at 10:43 am #

    Frankly these posts calling out handmade sellers and admin are tiring, as well as REAL vintage shops. Etsy’s tagging system is made to be abused, give a shit really in the grand scheme.

    Resellers are the ultimate blight, they are what will compromise Etsy, not these ridic mistagging, fp repeat, blah blah blah call outs.

  10. Life During Wartime June 10, 2011 at 12:20 pm #

    Resellers are not the only problem on Etsy, you suck.

    Yes, the unabated flood of reseller shops is a site integrity issue.

    But tag and title stuffing, materials stuffing, deceptive titles, category abuse, and descriptions that play coy in order to mislead shoppers are a community integrity issue. An issue that makes shoppers wary, just like the presence of resellers. Besides, many partial resellers also misuse the listing process in other ways.

    If you sell in a category where tag, title, or category abuse by other sellers has minimal impact on your visibilty, then good for you. But other categories are hurting from the lack of community integrity on Etsy, and so community abusers will be called out.

  11. angryjeweler June 10, 2011 at 1:13 pm #

    sockie call out of a forum cupcake/serial TVP’er

  12. Fake June 10, 2011 at 1:55 pm #

    I see MaryMary subscribes to the ‘fix a pendant’ on a chain and sell for 50% more than its worth business plan. I’d say she’s aware of the TOU’s and plays them to her advantage. MaryMary’s shop is both a great example of the artistic talent at Etsy and the integrity of the Etsy admin.

  13. peevypants June 10, 2011 at 2:05 pm #

    meh! i MIGHT consider charging that much for a necklace in my etsy shop if it had a sterling silver chain on it, at least. hers are silver plated. lame!

  14. em June 10, 2011 at 2:10 pm #

    Wow! I didn’t even realize those are plated chains. I wouldn’t dare charging that much for things like that.

  15. em June 10, 2011 at 2:12 pm #

    Bleh, that should be “charge” of course.

  16. Nicole June 10, 2011 at 2:19 pm #

    I actually agree with yousuck. Fraud is illegal. Stating that something is your original handmade design when you’re selling something resold directly from the manufacturer is illegal. Using a multi word tag to describe something is not. And there is no hard and fast rule stating that you can only use one word- I don’t know if it’s still there but there used to be an example stating you can use a multi word tag like ‘sterling silver’ so where is the line drawn? I also don’t get people bitching about how much someone charges for something. I don’t see how it’s anyone’s place to judge this.

  17. nolongerbuyingetsy June 10, 2011 at 2:24 pm #

    As a buyer, I hate mistagging. I was looking for something on Etsy one day and typed it in the search bar. After looking at 10 pages of items that had nothing to do with what I was looking for, I gave up and didn’t end up buying anything. I have spent over $1500 on Etsy so yeah, mistagging does hurt when somebody like me just simply quits buying.

    Honestly, these necklaces are just one example of why I quit buying. They are ugly and expensive. Because of the low quality chain, I would expect to pay more that 10-15 apiece for them. I would rather shop at an expensive department store now than Etsy because somehow in sellers minds, hand putting a pendant on a chain means they can charge twice as much as an expensive department store for crap. For those of you selling real handmade with quality materials on Etsy, I feel sorry for you because of this.

  18. KooKoo June 10, 2011 at 2:29 pm #

    Her shop is also an example of using your connections to make sales. Her stuff is so tired; who would want it otherwise?

  19. JK June 10, 2011 at 3:55 pm #

    Something doesn’t have to be illegal to be wrong, FYI, nor does the presence of a large issue automatically negate anything smaller. Mistagging has hampered my personal searching for the things I want to buy to the point that I no longer waste my time searching for the things I buy on Etsy and shop only with sellers I’ve shopped with before (and even then, rarely) just because there’s too much work involved to find exactly what I want. If a venue’s decision to refuse to follow its own rules, and to allow its employees to flagrantly break them, affects the income of the people selling on that venue, is that perfectly a-okay just because no laws were broken? I don’t think it is.

  20. more etsy b.s. June 10, 2011 at 5:50 pm #

    Look at the feedback. 31 Neutral and 4 Negs. What a mess.

  21. etsy flea market June 10, 2011 at 7:24 pm #

    I hate to be nit-picky but you can’t tell the pipe sellers they can’t sell their stuff if your employee sells a “stash” keeper. Come on.

    From etsy’s TOU’s: “Items or listings that promote or support illegal activity or instruct others to engage in illegal activity…Even beyond these standards, Etsy members are responsible for making important moral or ethical decisions regarding what they buy and sell on Etsy.”

  22. Nicole June 10, 2011 at 10:42 pm #

    This isnt mis-tagging. Mis-tagging is using unrelated search terms. This is tag stuffing, the whole point of which is to help people find her items who are actually looking for what shes selling.
    FYI- I think its important to have some perspective in life, and highlighting those who are doing something ilegal seems a touch more important than highlighting those using one extra relevant word per tag space.

  23. etsycallout June 11, 2011 at 7:10 am #

    “This isnt mis-tagging. Mis-tagging is using unrelated search terms. This is tag stuffing”

    We didn’t want to make a new category- mistagging gets the job done. Deal.

  24. JK June 11, 2011 at 9:45 am #

    How lucky we are to have you here to decide on what is a big problem or a little problem and tell us what our perspective should be, Nicole!

  25. PussDaddy June 11, 2011 at 9:51 am #

    I bought from her a long, long time ago. I didn’t even know she was an admin tho until someone pointed it out, but of course everyone turned into the forum cupcake conspiracy theory of the century. I did like the earrings I got from her but I didn’t notice any tag stuffing at the time, although it could have been present then I admit because I didn’t look. I agree that the admin should have to follow the same rules for their shops that everyone else does.

  26. Nicole June 11, 2011 at 10:11 am #

    Oh fuck off and get a grip. If your mom was ripped off by a reseller you’d be just as upset as if she bought an item had tag stuffing in the listing, right? I am seriously done with the inability of ignorant people unable to accept someone’s differing opinion. So go ahead and put words in my mouth if that makes you feel good.

  27. peevypants June 11, 2011 at 10:32 am #

    i think it is a worthy complaint about the price for an item with a finish that is going to wear off, especially since her necklaces are most likely very quick assembles…so to hike a price up that much for labor seems unrealistic.

  28. Life During Wartime June 11, 2011 at 10:43 am #

    Nicole, rule-breaking is rule-breaking. The range of offenses from tag abuse to reselling forms a continuum on Etsy, making a case that the shopping experience suffers when the staff of a venue doesn’t enforce the site rules. Either because they don’t understand the TOU and how that applies to shops, or because they think rules are just legalese but don’t really matter to anyone.

    The culture on Etsy has devolved into contempt for the rules in general, obvious favoritism, and lots of corporate hypocrisy. And this happens on most venues, not just Etsy, sad to say.

    By all means call out any resellers you find!

  29. Christa June 11, 2011 at 10:55 am #

    aw, Morgansilk, don’t hate on the pics.

    Why not? LMAO Christ.
    She’s a reselling idiot, who stuffs tags and she should know better, ten fold.
    We’ll pick on her about her ugly face if we want to.

  30. em June 11, 2011 at 1:11 pm #

    I too find it kind of tiring when people come in and say what should and shouldn’t be a topic on this blog. If you want to read a blog that strictly calls out resellers, then go make it yourself and you can call out whomever you damn please.

  31. Nicole June 11, 2011 at 1:31 pm #

    It’s sad that your response to someone’s thought that you don’t like is to say ‘go somewhere else’. Really quite tiring and unoriginal. This blog started out as a fairly legitimate voice for outing violations on Etsy. It’s turned into a pathetic bitch fest of what people simply don’t like, a platform for people to ridicule anyone they don’t like, or proclaim immmoral anyone who’s prices are too high, or who’s items are too trendy, regardless of whether the person is actually violating Etsy rules.

  32. em June 11, 2011 at 2:31 pm #

    Look, I wasn’t searching for an internet cat fight. I stand by what I said – it’s a blog, and blogs aren’t really democracies. The writer can post whatever she wants, so don’t act like you can control the subject matter just because YOU don’t find it fitting.

    If there’s a call out I don’t really care about, you know what I do? Move on to the next one, or come back in a couple days when there’s a new one.

    And, contrary to what some seem to believe, the tag stuffing IS against Etsy’s rules, as technically you are only supposed to use multi-word tags if they are an actual phrase. I think it’s perfectly worthy of a call out as it shows the hypocrisy of Etsy admins.

  33. FormerEtsyBuyer June 11, 2011 at 4:16 pm #

    Portobello, a true fraud, is now on the front page! Yeah, thanks etsy. Your message about not giving a crap about resellers is heard loud and clear!

  34. Life During Wartime June 11, 2011 at 6:26 pm #

    Yup, tag stuffing is against the rules. But then maybe I am not trendy enough to get how ‘long skinny layering’ and ‘weird thuringia foot’ are meaningful phrases. To me they read like that old adlibs game: I need an adjective, an ajective, and a noun. I’m sure I’d be totally shown up for my ignorance if I could see how many Etsy searches are done each day for weird Thuringian feet. I know I look out for those babies where ever I go because my Prussian feet are so jealous.

  35. H. Hoover June 11, 2011 at 7:13 pm #

    Um, these doll legs are straight off of eBay:

    Guess buying stuff & sticking it on a chain is fine if you are an admin. OK, so some are repainted but one is just like in the ebay listing photo.

    Give me a break……

  36. JK June 12, 2011 at 8:41 am #

    Wow, Nicole. Not being in charge sure does make you angry! I recommend investing in a computer with the ‘scroll’ function, so you can just skip past posts that you deem unworthy in the future and save yourself the stress and unhappiness.

  37. PussDaddy June 12, 2011 at 9:42 am #

    Are we having fun yet?

  38. KooKoo June 12, 2011 at 11:04 am #

    MaryMary must have had a hellova resume to slide in the Etsy door (besides knowing someone who knows someone). She probably stuffed the resume, too.

  39. KooKoo June 12, 2011 at 11:34 am #

    just to mention, the continued use of mysocenist and violent themes makes me puke. Sure sign of an opportunist, not someone with a personal vision. Hence, her ignorance. VCU didn’t “learn” her very much.

  40. Lillie June 13, 2011 at 2:12 am #

    This isnt mis-tagging. Mis-tagging is using unrelated search terms. This is tag stuffing, the whole point of which is to help people find her items who are actually looking for what shes selling.

    I agree, Nicole. I didn’t even know “tag stuffing” was against Etsy rules… I’ve always thought of the Etsy tags as basically keywords, which are helpful if relevant, and a pain in the ass if irrelevant (mistagging).

    I mean, if the tags help me – as a buyer – to find the right item, then I’m all for them and I don’t care if the seller has entered coherent phrases or simply strings of relevant words or strings of alternative descriptions like “50s 1950s fifties” or “lime chartreuse mint” or “apricot peach coral”.

    I understand that rules should be followed, but I’m perplexed why this particular rule is even there. It should be enough that you can enter keywords to a maximum number of characters and that’s it, it then being up to the seller to decide whether to enter many one-word tags or fewer longer phrases. They take up the same room, after all.

    That would make more sense to me anyway.

  41. kouturecrochet June 13, 2011 at 9:18 am #

    In a move that is both ballsy and dickish, i started a thread about this on etsy

    of course the thread is locked but the admins shop is closed.

  42. TheBargainBabe June 13, 2011 at 12:58 pm #

    Yeah I was going to say that the admin shop is “on vacation” lol. Would love to be a fly on the wall in the etsy offices right now.

  43. w. again June 13, 2011 at 2:00 pm #

    she’s traveling but…if it makes you feel better to think this blog made her go on vacation…so be it. hahaha

  44. kitten June 13, 2011 at 6:45 pm #

    H. Hoover

    Um, these doll legs are straight off of eBay:

    Guess buying stuff & sticking it on a chain is fine if you are an admin. OK, so some are repainted but one is just like in the ebay listing photo.

    Give me a break……

    Um, it’s fine if you are admin or any other Etsy seller because it is allowed on Etsy. What does it matter if she bought the legs on ebay, Etsy or dug them up herself? Buyers obviously want what she’s offering so other than the tag stuffing, not sure why some have a problem with her shop.

  45. kitten June 13, 2011 at 6:51 pm #

    kouturecrochet said:

    In a move that is both ballsy and dickish, i started a thread about this on etsy…

    Not so sure about ballsy, dickish yes, trollish absolutely. You’re begging to be muted. If that happens, at least we’ll be spared another “Farewell Etsy” attention seeking thread.

  46. KoutureCrochet June 13, 2011 at 9:31 pm #

    Oh don’t hide behind some nickname, tell us who you really are on etsy, I mean we know you are a coward in real life (cause you won’t own ip to the shit you say, and it is shit) but who are you on etsy?

  47. KoutureCrochet June 13, 2011 at 10:12 pm #

    The items are back, this time properly tagged.

    I might be a troll according to kitten the coward, but at least my thread got results. And it’s results that matter.

    As for being muted, thats a matter of course. If etsy could handle honesty, this site would not even exist.

  48. kitten June 14, 2011 at 5:40 am #

    Yeah I’m a coward like everyone else here. o_O

    Congratulations, you’re a hero, your thread got results! I guess we can look forward to a new thread announcing your courageous victory. Has the press been alerted? Will you be holding a book signing in the near future?

    Seriously, don’t you have some crickets to shoo out of your AF shop? Buh bye.

  49. uh-huh June 14, 2011 at 8:59 am #

    Sad that this is what it takes for admin to follow the guidelines that (most) of the rest of us follow.
    Hope her tags stay cleaned up.

  50. tired-of-etsy-finds June 22, 2011 at 6:38 pm #

    Well admin is making it up to her by giving her tons of exposure in the Items Matching Your Taste. She’s in mine virtually everytime I click to the front page. And mine is supposed to be showing me vintage housewares and art only!

    Quelle surprise!

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