shabbymcfabby, DreamyWeddings

7 Jul
This pile of deception was one of my ‘Suggested Shops’ from the ever vigilant (just kidding!) Site Integrity crew at Etsy Corporate.  So lovely to contemplate Etsy promoting a tangled mess of violations from this seller while they make keyboard noise in the Forums about cleaning up Etsy’s violation cweens.
Oldest shop (one in my Suggesteds):
This shop is a massive mis-use of the vintage category. Items are shown already re-painted (with an offer for custom re-re-painting for an additional fee) and/or disassembled.  Listings don’t show the items in their original condition — like an original finish frame with its original mirror or picture. Here’s the best example of a fauxtique, from Peggy Bundy’s dressing room:
Or listing items made by painting over (maybe) vintage pieces and sticking them together — not vintage:
Funny how all the ‘vintage’ glass domes/cloches in her shop are all the same?
I found 2 actual vintage listings, with maybe a handful more possibly vintage.
Then there are supplies listed as handmade:
Commercial items listed as handmade that shouldn’t be on Etsy:
Catalog retailer with same items (shabby got her measurements wrong for the Eiffel Tower one):
Next shop (same owner) has a tiny inventory:
There are actually more sold items than current listings:
Check out all the fauxtique French battery operated clocks!  One left in current inventory, and seller claims it is more than 20 years old — inventory from a closed decor bricks and mortar business.  No maker information, no accurate date for original purchase.  Uh huh.
Third shop for wedding related items:
Since when are finished votive candle holders supplies?
The description says she will resell you the candles, too!
These come with candles:
I know the original shop, shabbymcfabby, was called out numerous times in the now closed Garagetsy blog, and was undoubtedly flagged.  This shows what Etsy does about resellers and vintage misuse.  Nothing.
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104 Responses to “shabbymcfabby, DreamyWeddings”

  1. JAC July 7, 2011 at 5:41 pm #

    This is crazy… What the heck are people thinking when they sate that something is handmade by them, and it’s not. Did they think we would not find out?

    I hope Etsy shuts this asshole down…

  2. etsyvigilante July 7, 2011 at 6:16 pm #

    They’ve figured out that if they tag anything “supplies” they can sell cheap mass-produced, made-in-China stuff on Etsy. Very sneaky and deceitful.

  3. kitten July 7, 2011 at 11:03 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/74870046/tres-chic-romantic-36-antique-silver

    $180.00 for 36?? Any brides reading this, mercury glass votive candle holders are available for 99-cents each at Target.

    Not a supply – shouldn’t be on Etsy – if anybody buys these, they deserve to be taken.

  4. jobradleyviamargutta51 July 8, 2011 at 3:16 am #

    She has Tim Holtz ‘word keys’ for sale in her shop at $14.50 that currently sell at Walmart for $9.50 or any crafter store (Michaels…) for nearly half that with the standard 40 or 50% off coupon.
    What a effin’ rip-off artist! How stupid are brides these days to pay 20-30 times wholesale price for this junk in her shops and other so called wedding emporiums. I agree, if you buy this crap you get the huge wedding debt to go with it. So said from a single gal.
    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tim-Holtz-Idea-Ology-Word-Keys-7-Pkg-Antique/10881209

  5. TheBargainBabe July 8, 2011 at 6:44 am #

    Humph. Yep those stupid word keys. Here’s the link to them in her shop so you can easily report it.
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/74945208/147-vintage-style-stamped-metal-word?confirm_reported=1

  6. GagMe July 8, 2011 at 6:52 am #

    Shit like this just clogs up the works and makes everybody look bad by being in the same neighborhood. Not a competitor, just a spoiler. So embarrassing. “location, location, location”

  7. Life During Wartime July 8, 2011 at 10:34 am #

    Overpriced, maybe, but the keys are still a supply aren’t they? Because what else can you do with them except include them in some kind of craft project?

  8. Life During Wartime July 8, 2011 at 10:54 am #

    Perhaps not a violation of Etsy’s rules, but a strange listing I found when the seller posted in the Forums:

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/33989455/wwii-1944-bakelite-rose-brooch-cut-from

    In what universe were aircraft windows made from bakelite? It’s acrylic. The listing on Bonanza states the condition as ‘new’, so this might be a fauxtique. Just because an artisan carves jewelry from old aircraft windows does not make the item vintage unless it was carved more than 20 years ago. The whole shop raises questions for me with all the ivory items — something I know very little about. Anyone here know about old ivory pieces and how the are sold legally?

  9. sara July 8, 2011 at 11:57 am #

    I can’t look at the shop you mention LDW because Etsy is down, but I sold a vintage ivory (pre-ban) necklace for my parents on Etsy a couple of years ago – as far as I could tell from research, it’s legal to sell as long as it is pre-ban but you can’t ship it internationally (you can’t sell it on Ebay at all).

  10. Ptooey July 8, 2011 at 12:40 pm #

    Brides are obviously temporarily insane.

  11. Life During Wartime July 8, 2011 at 12:41 pm #

    Thank you, Sara! (Etsy is back, btw) Here is the seller’s website, which they include in almost all of their Etsy listings, often along with the addys of their Bonanza stores:

    http://www.ivory-antique.com/

    This says the ivory they have for sale has been brought into the USA by them from Germany: “all Pre Ban Ivory rom the 1800s to the 1950s Jewelry, Figurines, even a Chess Game and more from an Ivory Carver in Europe as well as Ivory collectibles from Asia
    It’s all coming from a private Estate but my last shirt has no pockets, so I’d love to sell my treasures to homes that can appreciate precious and beautiful craftman ship.”

    All of their Ivory listings on Etsy have shipping set up for Everywhere Else in addition to the USA, so either the stuff isn’t ivory, or they are willing to break the law.

    I would not rsk buying anything valuable from a seller who has never heard of plexiglass or thinks it is the same as phenolic plastic.

  12. sickofcupcakes July 8, 2011 at 1:39 pm #

    “I accept Money Order, cash in Envelope (yes, that works good!)
    and PayPal Thank you and have a happy day”

    Ya, I’m going to send hundreds of dollars cash in an envelope to a shady seller.

  13. FormerEtsyBuyer July 8, 2011 at 2:21 pm #

    Off topic, but interesting (I think): I still maintain that sparklepeach a/k/a peaches4me (Kristin Purcell) and MANY other etsy names has been operating under the name WhereJewelsBloom as “Christina”. And also appeared in the ECO forums here as “Andrew” as well.
    So after selling 196 items, with the last sales on June 11, her store has been “on vacation” for a month now. AND of course, the negs and neutrals are starting to come in. Same old way of doing business!

    http://www.etsy.com/people/WhereJewelsBloom/feedback?ref=ls_feedback

  14. Life During Wartime July 8, 2011 at 2:55 pm #

    Looked at the second page of items in the shop
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/EuropeanGoodies?ref=seller_info
    and it appears this person has no idea that selling ‘hand crafted’ items purchased by them cannot be resold on Etsy.

    So, offering to ship pre-ban ivory internationally and reselling.

    I would think that Etsy would be monitoring the site for pre-ban ivory sellers. Are the site integrity standards on Etsy lower than those on Ebay? Appears so.

  15. ohmeohmy July 8, 2011 at 4:42 pm #

    I guess I’m confused. The vintage seller cannot call an item “vintage” if she has repainted it? I know nothing of vintage and antique.

    Also wouldn’t the keys be a supply, just like charms are? They are not on chains, so it would be etsy legal to be a supply that a buyer would then put on a chain?

  16. Life During Wartime July 8, 2011 at 4:58 pm #

    ohmeohmy, I think the keys are a supply because what do you do with them otherwise? They are not real keys. You could make stuff with them.

    The whole point of selling vintage items is that they are items made decades ago. Another time, a style from the past. If you spray paint a frame, replace its framed print with a mirror or a chalkboard, it isn’t the same old item any more. Just like if you took an old long dress from the 1970s and cut the hem 15 inches and removed the sleeves. It’s not what the orignal maker made, or what the original designer designed. So the maker is the person who altered the item. The materials are vintage, but the result is new.

  17. Ptooey July 8, 2011 at 6:20 pm #

    Bet it’s bone.

  18. Alli July 8, 2011 at 8:02 pm #

    LDW – that’s something I’ve thought about before. What if you had a dress that was made in the 60s but altered in the 80s, and you’re selling it now. Is it still vintage? 1960s vintage or 1980s vintage? It gets kinda messy when people start altering things.

  19. TootieSkates July 9, 2011 at 3:29 am #

    Reseller

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/Backangel?ref=seller_info

  20. Ptooey July 9, 2011 at 7:30 am #

    Hello Fucking Kitty.

  21. Life During Wartime July 9, 2011 at 11:25 am #

    Alli, I would say an old alteration — on clothing or anything else old — could be listed as either vintage or handmade if the alteration was made by the seller. If the listing said what was in your comment, you are givng a buyer all the info they need to make a decision to purchase, or not. But the age of the materials alone does not made a craft project from 2011 vintage.

    Personally, I love old craft projects, including items with old alterations and embellishments. I have a few macrame and plastic bead necklaces from the 70s made by someone who took apart (probably broken) jewelry from the 50s and 60s. The macrame pieces are vintage because they were made before 1992 (heck, I bought them before 1992!). Our ancestors had to be thrifty and reused whatever they had to hand to make something new. Think vintage quitlts made from antique cloth. But a quilt made today from vintage fabric is a new quilt. Does that make sense?

  22. Life During Wartime July 9, 2011 at 12:00 pm #

    Ptooey, I too thought those items might be bone, or even plastic. Since they don’t know the difference between bakelite and plexiglass, who knows what any of the items are made of? What made my wonder was a sold item, supposedly a pre-ban ivory block, with one shown in the background with a little doodle decoration on it. If I was sitting on a pile of pre-ban ivory jewelry components, I sure as heck wouldn’t be doodling a few flowers on one.
    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/49232427

  23. Life During Wartime July 9, 2011 at 12:35 pm #

    I read in the ArtFire forums that a new plan for promoting vintage on the site with Twitter will include Tweets about ‘steampunk’ and using vintage as materials for craft projects. Yeah, way to go promoting vintage. WTF is vintage about steampunk? You can use old bits and pieces to construct your fantasy steam objects, but that is not what makes them steampunk. Steampunk is a style, not an age.

  24. Ptooey July 9, 2011 at 1:58 pm #

    AF should definitely NOT be going there. Where are the employees who know what the F they are talking about when it comes to old? There obviously aren’t any. We are surrounded by nincompoops who don’t bother to research the fucking category. It’s a joke.

  25. Life During Wartime July 9, 2011 at 3:15 pm #

    Here’s ArtFire’s vintage promotion Twitter:

    http://twitter.com/#!/ArtFireVintage

    Mostly a collection of links about pop culture and history. I have no idea how a bunch of links to nostalgia pages connects vintage shops on AF with shoppers. Etsy is not the only venue that has been repeatedly poked with the Clueless Stick.

  26. Life During Wartime July 9, 2011 at 6:00 pm #

    Who would have thunk it? Reseller making her own team on Etsy. No shop, no sales, no feedback — but her own team. Yowsa.

  27. Life During Wartime July 9, 2011 at 6:01 pm #

    Damn, I am laughing so hard I forgot the darned link:

    http://www.etsy.com/teams/9823/cheap-christian-louboutin-for-you

  28. Life During Wartime July 9, 2011 at 6:04 pm #

    And another reseller team:
    http://www.etsy.com/teams/9850/fit-flops-best-price

  29. jobradleyviamargutta51 July 9, 2011 at 6:21 pm #

    Getting back to Shabbys RomanticPrairieHome shop and the “vintage” Paris battery operated clock for $58 – I bought that at Marshalls for $17 two years ago! Ebay has several similar ones for $15 to 35 which includes shipping. In her words “~In my shop they used to sell from $125.00~$175.00” Jeezus, no one in their right mind ever paid that for pressed board with a paper face and a $5 battery operated movement. And she’s justifying it like you’re getting a sweet deal! So I flagged a few of her items and I was thanked “for taking the time to help maintain the integrity of the Etsy marketplace!”

  30. sara July 9, 2011 at 7:08 pm #

    Yeah, I dunno. We sold the pre-ban ivory necklace because my parents thought it was cursed (it was keeping Dad from winning the lottery, I guess.) I actually sold it to a Danish girl (where the necklace was originally made, of all things) but learned when I was looking into shipping that you can’t ship ivory outside of the US and had to cancel the sale. The penalties are really high – I’d never, never do it.

    The ivory selling made me feel icky – I don’t know if it’s worse that she’s selling the stuff illegally and (imo) somewhat immorally, of if she’s misrepresenting non-ivory as pre-ban and defrauding people. Either way, not cool.

    Also, it seems like there are more and more sellers on Etsy who appear to really not know that it has to be handmade by them (or a member of their collective, hah) or 20+ years old. You’d think the new listing process would have helped with this but I guess not.

  31. sara July 9, 2011 at 7:09 pm #

    Fit flops! Best Price! Very wholesome!

  32. Life During Wartime July 9, 2011 at 10:22 pm #

    Yeah, obviously Etsy is doing nothing to monitor Teams. Who is starting them and what they’re about. Although I am willing to guess if I started a team called Are Etsy Staffers Taking Bribes from Resellers? it would get shut down very fast.

  33. sickofcupcakes July 10, 2011 at 8:24 am #

    Ha! LDW, you crack me up.

  34. Life During Wartime July 10, 2011 at 10:13 am #

    I did a search on Etsy for french clock and found some resellers (and also some old french clocks and some handmade items). I’ll have to look more at the resellers and, if I can document their items, I’ll send in a callout.

  35. jobradleyviamargutta51 July 10, 2011 at 12:51 pm #

    ShabbyMcFabby has been suspended! Shop announcement:
    PLEASE NOTE: ETSY HAS CURRENTLY SUSPENDED MY WHOLE ENTIRE SHOP AS OF 7/10/11!!! THEY ARE STATING THAT MY ITEMS ARE NOT HANDMADE OR VINTAGE OR SUPPLIES…WHICH THEY ALL ARE 100% HANDMADE, VINTAGE& SUPPLIES!!! I HAVE JUST CONTACTED ETSY SUPPORT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY HAVE MADE A GRAVE AND HUGE ERROR!!! PLEASE SUPPORT ME & OTHERS IN THIS & JUST KNOW IF YOU ARE A SELLER HERE ON ETSY YOU MAY BE NEXT!!!

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/shabbymcfabby#

  36. Life During Wartime July 10, 2011 at 2:40 pm #

    I think these shops will return after coaching because the repainted items are Etsy legal handmade, and she has a few vintage items and legit supplies. It would be a great thing if Etsy would refer this seller to the TOU – Dos and Don’ts, and tell her to fix her categories and then ditch the reseller items.

  37. Life During Wartime July 10, 2011 at 3:32 pm #

    She’s already changed her message.

  38. TheBargainBabe July 10, 2011 at 4:08 pm #

    Yep, was just going to say the message has changed. It says “just a short break” as if she’s on vacation and not in trouble.
    The Tim Holtz key reselling for some reason really irritates me. What kind of character does a person have to do crap like that? Geeze.

  39. em July 11, 2011 at 7:51 am #

    LOL she couldn’t even bother Googling “la cote d’azur” (means Azure Coast, or the French Riviera – region in France). All she can say is:

    “On the face it says: La Cote’ d’ Azur
    (it’s French…but after 4 years of French 30 years ago…I couldn’t tell you what it means.) Maybe a place in France…if you know or have any ??’s, please convo me, ok?”

    I knew it said Azure Coast, but it took me all of 10 seconds to pop it into Google and find the wikipedia link with tons of info (#1 on the search results). How stupid/lazy are people these days?

  40. em July 11, 2011 at 7:53 am #

    Oh, forgot the link. I found it in romanticprariehome’s sold items (also says ‘vintage’ but shows two have been sold)

    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/51135919

  41. Life During Wartime July 11, 2011 at 9:45 am #

    Yeah, nothing screams ‘found vintage’ like having the items show up multiple times in your sold items!

    Of course there are lots of vintage things that you do find — and sell — more than once. Like dishes, glassware, even costume jewelry. Because these items were things that were in like half the homes in America. But the exact same (faux) French clock? It is to laugh.

    I especially love the fake yellowing on the clock face for a faux aged effect.

  42. Empress July 11, 2011 at 4:21 pm #

    “I don’t have my clothes off”

  43. Life During Wartime July 12, 2011 at 3:42 pm #

    ShabbyMcfabby is back. With the misuse of vintage fixed. Wow! Etsy did something right, and followed its own rules.

  44. SterlingPhotography July 15, 2011 at 11:24 am #

    Hi, I’m new to Etsy and trying to figure out how it all works and to see if it’s worth playing around with and am glad to have found your very informative site!

    I have made two treasuries, and didn’t realize the politics involved, but I did find it fun, if a waste of time. The last thing I need is a new Internet addiction; I really want to do something with my photography, not play LOL ANYWAY, the reason I’m writing on this thread is that when I was making my “Dog Days” treasury, I saw something that ticked me off. Being a German Shepherd Dog freak, I know pretty much every photo out there and this is one that is everywhere (Google > German Shepherd beach < to see what I mean) and this seller is listing it as their own. I don't know whose it is but it isn't theirs. I clicked on their shop and saw even more ripped off images. Sales are climbing for this person.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/72242925/german-shepherd-in-the-sunset-magnet?ref=sr_gallery_20&ga_search_submit=&ga_search_query=german+shepherd+beach&ga_search_type=all&ga_facet=

    Do I just hit the report button? I have a lot of GSD pics at the beach pics I want to put up but things like this make me remember I should have a watermark. I'm Sterling Photography on Etsy. I have some vintage items but they *are* truly vintage! Being new is no excuse for cheating.

  45. Wade August 28, 2011 at 9:31 am #

    This is Shabby McFabby/Romantic Prairie Home/Dreamy Weddings

    We wish to comment on the terrible, nasty, malicious & ignorant comments left about our shops.

    Yes, we agree…we may have had some item(s) in my shops mis~tagged, along with thousands of other ETSIANS, as well. NOT Intentionally…but, rather in ERROR. We have gone in and redone my tags. It was very confusing (not only to us…but, to 1000’s+ ETSY Sellers) as how to label genuine authentic vintage item(s) that are a person takes the time to re~cycled/upcycled do altered art & mixed media to…and to save them from the thousands of landfills across this nation…to bring new life to them for many familes to enjoy for prob. their lifetime, and beyond.

    My husband and I work our rear’s off like nobody’s business…nobody even knows or has an idea @ how hard we both work 7 days a week 10-12+ hours a day!!!

    Yes, we spend many hours hunting and picking to find amazing vintage frames. We scrub and clean all the 50-100+ year old frames, then they are primd and given a professional paint finish to them, we then cut either sheet metal and cut new boards we take these vintage beauties and turn them into functional pieces that can be used on a daily basis. Our paint process take from 1-2 wks to do and then about another day to do all the rest of the handrrde work to them.

    They are still vintage pieces that have been upcycled for modern time.

    I would also like to address some of the other coments left in re: to some of my other items that were also put under attack.

    Let;s start with the Paris Clock. That piece was vintage, and I only had 1 of them, I did have them from my shop in the late 80’s early 90’s…and believe it or not they did sell for between $125.00-$150.00. I could have easily sold more of them, if from way back then when I had my shop, I would have saved or not sold the rest that I had ordered from a company that back then made more than one of them. I did absolutely nothing to it, to age the face, etc….it was in it’s orig. vintage state. Many companies who made things many years ago, continur to still make the same item(s) today. I still had the orig. box and the purchhase invoice on it to prove it was vintage. I have never ever listed anyting that wasn’t vintage and portayed them to be anything else other than what they truly were…vintage over 20 years of age.

    Let’s address the word keys. They are a supply. They are used in all different types of altered art/mixed~media projects. Yes, major retailers may have them for a little less. My pricing reflects my wholesale costs, shipping and each set of 7 thee put in an aforable little drawsting bag that also costs $$. Majour discount retailers are able to have items for a lessor amount based on the volume that they purchase from the manufacturer. We are just a small Mom and Pop business…we are not Target or Ross or any other large company that has the ability to go in and purchase thousands of pieces of these items. If you go into these stores, you are lucky to be able to find a handfull of them, with them never knowing how many more they will get in any one time and/or when they will come in (if @ all) When a customer may need a large amount from us, we can guarantee that we can provide and guarantee that they will get them in an extremely fast and timely manner. We also ship these all over the world, and there are many places that fo not have access to being able to purchase these and/or other supplies for whatever there needs may be for them.

    We are truly saddened @ the time that people would take to try to teat a small company who works so hard apart. My husband lost his job last year…one year away from his retirement. That is when we went into full~time ETSY, to try to just make enough money to pay our bill and a quality stay a float in this economy. We have never tried to do anything but supply

  46. Wade August 28, 2011 at 9:43 am #

    Cont’d message: (pleae forgive the spelling errors…it was not letting me correct them)

    Anyways…we have never tried to supply anything but a true vintage piece, and vintage upcycled, and or handmade creations.

    I would also like to address the comments made about my cloches used for serving pieces. I absolutely gaurantee that these are 100% vintage glass pieces. They were the orig. vintage domes used for cheese boards. We hunt everywhere for them…garage sales, estate sales, thrift & antique shops, etc. ‘Some’ of them are the same, because waaaay back then…they were all manufactured by just a handful or companies producing them. I have come across approx. 5 different variations of the same ones that are all vintage.

    All we would like to say is that we are extremely hurt and saddened by the amount of time and negative energy that was maliciously spent to try to destroy an honest hard working husband and wife home based business that we truly love and care about. All of our feedback has been 100% positive in all 3 of our shops, and we have the best customers ever!!!

  47. Amy Weaver December 29, 2011 at 5:51 am #

    Wow….so glad I’m not the only one who knows what a fraud she is. She is one of the worst violaters on Etsy. Here is an item she sold in the past that I saw at Marshall’s Dept store…same exact thing, but she claims it was “Handmade”
    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/50997626

    Her original shop ShabbyMcfabby.etsy.com was opened after she called one of my supply Vendors asking all types of questions about me. My vendor called me just to let me know about this Seller…said she stated ” She will be my main competitor, i just didn’t know it yet” since then, she has copied my designs, even going as far as putting my Shop name “Revived Vintage” in her Titles, so if people search me on Google, her chalkboards show up! She has since moved on to other shops…copying their designs from Memo Boards to Birdcages, she has no original ideas other than buying some keys and sticking a magnet on the back…now that takes talent!

    She will never admit wrongdoing…just will respond with some pitty party story of how she works so hard….yes, we work hard too designing not copying. Now when someone Googles Shabby McFabby, they will see this Forum and may be warned!

  48. Pam Lavers February 19, 2013 at 9:01 pm #

    I purchased a few items. Everytime I contacted seller, they never got back to me. Then husband posts. Post that I didn’t understand rules, I understand when you ask questions about your order, you should answer. Gave me sad stories about her sickness of why she could not even answer my emails. Said then she was working hard on now doing a custom order I didn’t request….or confirm. I asked if it was a possibility. Hid behind custom order rules, would not give me a refund! I elevated to ETSY. I am out $271. Do not do business with these people!! Besides the fact others have complained they too fell through the cracks! Brutal. Wish I saw this before I ordered.
    Sad, there are good people on ETSY, but these customer service nightmares push people back to EBay where customers nd store owners get support properly. Will update if ETSY does the right thing.

  49. shabbymcfabby February 19, 2013 at 10:39 pm #

    This customer is full of blatant lies & is just nasty and beyond vindictive!!!

    Let’s set the record straight here of what really happened!

    She ordered a ‘Ready to Ship’ Creation in silver.

    While she had her order in her cart, she entered in the color selection that she wanted it created in Pewter. She also left a message and stated if Pewter was not possible, then she wanted the silver finish then to have an antiqued gold finish created over it.

    Any changes to a ‘Ready to Ship Order’, automatically becomes a ‘CUSTOM ORDER’…duh.

    She was answered back and never once in her emails did she ask about her custom order requests.

    She wrote me stating that she was ‘NEW’ to etsy and wanted to cancel her now ‘Custom Made’ Order shipped well within the time frame plus shipping time of 6~14 business days…stated that she had decided to “go in another direction” and wanted a full refund.

    She stated that she would refuse her order if it arrived and that she would ship it back to me COD.

    This lady has no regards to a small family business fulfilling her ‘Custom Order’ requests, painting it ‘per her requests’ and then just letting a business have to take a hit money~wise on it, just because she has no patience for creation and shipping times and decided to go in another direction…

    It is stated in the shop policies about refunds and cancellations.

    Really??? We should be out $271.00, just because she changed her mind after creating something per her request!

    People who shop on Etsy need to read the shops info and policies on orders prior to purchasing…especially if they are new.

    There are many business’ online that do not offer refunds, especially on ‘Custom Orders’

    Sorry, but we are standing our ground on this one based on the principle of the matter.

  50. Pam Lavers March 18, 2013 at 10:43 pm #

    Shabby McFabby sent me out a beautiful product in the end to me, with nice gifts and went to an effort to make up for the problems initially of not getting back to me. She did complete the order custom, and it was appreciated.
    I always say professionalism can’t be taught; it doesn’t really matter what the problem is, excuses don’t matter, it is the reaction and the utmost service to which you react with to work with people on how to solve the problem. It’s stepping up right away.
    I think they have a bit to learn forsure with business, but she did in the end realize that it does affect them, and delivered on their promises in the end, packaged well with good quality product, exactly as I asked.

  51. Pissed customer August 16, 2013 at 7:09 am #

    I was duped by “Shabby Mcfabby”! I bought a large black oval framed mirror from her, after shipping the cost was over $200. I carefully read the listing so I knew it was going to be plastic, not a big deal, I was more interested in the style than the materials and for the cost it had to be well made. So after a few weeks of contemplating based on the price I decided to go for it.

    First of all it took 4 months to get it! At that point I was told that it takes time to make, and that it is painted with 10-12 coats of paint and a sealer. I thought to myself…ok all that work I understand the wait. When I got it I was a little disappointed in the quality, I actually expected it to be better than it was but my major problem was with the back of it which you wouldn’t see when its hanging.

    Well, last weekend my husband and I had a dinner party with his boss and co-workers. To my surprise the boss’s wife says “Don’t you just love this mirror, I bought the same one for my daughters room”. I was confused…did she know about Shabby Mcfabby too? So we got talking about it I mentioned I waited 4 months for it and asked how long she waited…. she said “I didn’t wait, Was it out of stock when you went to get it?” my response was “no, Shabby Mcfabby had to make and paint it, I guess she didn’t have any already in stock ready to go when I ordered” figuring maybe she ordered earlier than I did and there was one made and ready to go. Again I was met with a confused face from the boss’s wife…She said “what do you mean she had to make and paint it…this is from IKEA”. At that point my jaw dropped…..I was so embarrassed I could hardly speak. I said “IKEA? No, I bought this on Etsy in a shop called Shabby Mcfabby it can’t be the same one!” She said it definitely was she was sure of it and said it comes in the gloss black finish and also comes with the mirror. Still in shock I went straight to the computer and looked at IKEA online there it was…

    http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40213759/

    The exact same thing, same everything as I paid over $200 for was at ikea for $39.99! It was not made or altered by Shabby McFabby in any way, all she did was go to the store and pick it up. So basically I paid 5 times the price and waited 4 months for her to repackage it. It was made of glossy black plastic in china not painted in 10-12 coats of gloss black paint and sealed as stated by Kimber.

    I was so embarrassed that I could barely even face the boss’s wife, I felt like someone knocked me down and I couldn’t get up. I felt like she looked down on me since she has a huge fancy house decorated in the most elegant items and here I am with the same cheap plastic IKEA mirror she bought for a kids room displayed over my mantle. Thankfully she did not ask what I paid for it, I would have run out of the room crying.

    I could understand someone selling this on etsy if they altered it, like changed the color at no additional cost (shabby Mcfabby charges extra to change the color) and also added a chalkboard, cork board, memoboard or something else that is not exactly as you would pick it up from the store. Then I could understand charging an appropriate amount for the work that went into it…not marking it up 5x the price when all you did was put it in your shopping cart at IKEA and repackage it.

    I was going to send the shop a message regarding my situation and how upset I am however it appears her shop has been shut down now. People like that ruin it for etsy sellers, I had no idea that she has been doing the same thing for YEARS! Can you imagine how badly she must have duped her customers in the many brick and mortar shops she supposedly had.

    Watch out for this scam artist, it seems etsy let it go on for a long time and is just now realizing she is a fraud. Although I am sure it is only a matter of time till she opens another shop with the same agenda, to scam people out of their hard earned money. Kimber states they work hard for their money, yeah scamming people must take a toll on you.

    Note to Revived Vintage- You have a beautiful shop and gorgeous items! Thank you for keeping it real on etsy.

  52. Just plain wrong! August 17, 2013 at 2:48 pm #

    Her mirror supposedly a “made to order creation”

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:yaFz4_EstCAJ:www.etsy.com/ca/listing/97567149/gloss-black-mirror-any-color-large+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

    The exact same mirror from IKEA but she charges 4 times the cost for the same thing! Made in china, picked up at IKEA!

    http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40213759/

    Thats worse than a reseller thats a scam artist!

  53. shabbymcfabby August 29, 2013 at 5:18 pm #

    Honestly??? Let me set the record straight!!!

    We have NEVER, AND I REPEAT NEVER HAVE TAKEN AN IKEA FRAME FROM OFF THE SHELF AND SENT IT TO ANY CUSTOMER. PERIOD.

    We purchase our frames from various sources…do you honestly think think that the frame manufacturer only sells this frame to IKEA?? Think again. I invite this customer to take her painted high gloss framed mirror off her wall and go to a flippin IKEA store and hold it up side by side to the one there, and you will CLEARLY see the difference between the two finishesto know that yes indeed it was painted, entirely front and back as fully described. You will then be owing us one sincere apology and we are requesting your liable statement be removed immediately.

    Where we purchase our frames is immaterial, because we add our own or customers requested custom order hand made touches to every single order.

    We have been in business for approx: 5 years on Etsy and have 100% 5- star feedback.

    Etsy did not close our shop, it is our decision that our shop is closed, and we will be reopening back up very soon.

    If you have any ??’s or need any assistance..please contact
    me first at shabbymcfabby@yahoo.com

    Thank-you.

  54. Maria Lupinacci August 30, 2013 at 5:21 pm #

    Looks from the link like it is exactly the same thing color and all…
    So if you are setting the record straight then be honest and say its a framed mirror from Ikea.
    I would be more inclined to believe the customer in this case and the actual listing picture is proof enough for me. I do a lot of shopping on etsy and will surely stay away from this shop considering the evidence.
    Thanks for pointing it out. Revived vintage will be getting my business.

  55. shabbymcfabby September 8, 2013 at 6:14 pm #

    It is not the same frame off the shelf at Ikea.

    We purchase our frames from the same manufacturer that they purchase them from…we painted it a high gloss black paint front and back, and cut a new wood back, etc., etc….

    You can’t go by a listing picture without holding the actual created & painted item up to it….

  56. Ikea reseller September 9, 2013 at 6:06 pm #

    So lesson learned…. Its the same frame with a $150 price difference. Buy it at Ikea….since as you stated its made by the same manufacturer.

  57. Maria Lupinacci September 9, 2013 at 6:09 pm #

    The same manufacturer huh………
    Ok I will buy it at ikea then, at least that way I can just go pick it up rather than paying 4 times the cost to wait months for something I can buy just around the corner. Thanks!

  58. shabbymcfabby September 18, 2013 at 4:31 pm #

    Taking ‘ANY’ frame (regardless of where it is purchased from) and doing a custom & professional paint job on it (primer, multi~layered paint job 10~15 coats and a clear top coat for sealing it) and then cutting and adding a new wood back, and then adding either a regular or magnetic chalkboard or magnetic or pushpin memo board (all cut and made to order and added to the frame that was painted) or by adding mirror or glass with a new wood back also painted…does NOT (let me repeat…DOES NOT) make it the same as something your go and purchase off the shelf anywhere!

    Wake up people!!! That is what everybody who upcycles all kinds of NEW AND VINTAGE frames does….even Revived Vintage.

    Would you like me to tell you where she buys all of her frames? I could do that, but why should I? That would be cruel and vindictive and not how you should treat one another.

    It doesn’t and shouldn’t matter where the frame(s) come from, because she like many sellers do exactly what I have described above…and that is what makes it handmade and NOT right off the rack from anywhere.

    Enough said.

  59. Regina September 23, 2013 at 5:07 am #

    Yes upcycling is considered handmade but you actually need to alter it in order for it to be considered upcycled.
    You sold the exact same black oval mirror as ikea sells as a mirror. Do you really think people believe that you repainted a black frame black and added a new mirror when it already had one.
    I love seeing the upcycled creations on etsy, I think it’s great that some people do that and take basic items we all can get and customizing them…..But you actually need to alter it…..
    I haven’t seen your shop because it appears that it is still shut down, so obviously etsy feels you are not following the rules either. Not surprised seeing as though you tried to pass off something you bought at TJ Maxx or Marshall’s as your own creation.
    Seems like you are a bit bitter that revived vintage is doing well while your shop is closed, you made that obvious trying to call her out. Don’t be mad she’s doing it right.

  60. Kelly September 25, 2013 at 12:37 pm #

    Shabby McFabby has struck again!!!!! I should have known they were a scam!!! I ordered a vintage frame from them in March and they charged me $275. I never received in a timely manner so I filed a complaint against them with Paypal. They then sent the frame to me months later. I refused the shipment bc I had already purchased one. To this date, they have not refunded me a penny and refuse to do so! Stay away from Shabby McFabby and Robert and Kimber Wade!

  61. Kelly September 25, 2013 at 12:39 pm #

    Let’s ban together and file federal charges against Shabby McFabby … My business has hired a lawyer so email me and when can get on board. This time they have gone too far!!!

  62. shabbymcfabby September 25, 2013 at 6:01 pm #

    Kelly,

    Please be advised that you will be sued for liable for making untrue statements.

    Why not state the truth…that you ordered a custom order, made changes to it 2’x, and it was created for you exactly how you wanted it, and it was shipped out to you within my published time frame.

    FedEx tracking # 795783280247

    After we went through all of the work to create it for you, it arrived, sat at FedEx and then you let it sit until THEY returned it to us.

    As you have been told, you can either have it shipped back to you at your expense or have a store credit. All Sales are final, and we do not offer refunds due to simply changing your mind.

    Our shop will be back up very soon, and it is not down due to anything wrong that we did.

    We are catching up on orders and working on many outside orders that we recieve and we restyling our shop.

    Please remove this posting or our Atty’s will be in touch with you.

  63. shabbymcfabby September 25, 2013 at 6:16 pm #

    Also, Kelly….to be perfectly honest, PayPal closed the case…in OUR favor, as your ‘Custom Made Order’ was created and shipped out to you within our posted creation and shipping time frame. Then you just recently went back in and tried to file a fraudulent claim with PayPal, stating that you had not authorized this purchase. They again, closed the case immediately in our favor. 2 cases closed against you, not in your favor??? Really, people wake up!!! Pay to have your order re~shipped back out to you or take a store credit. All of our time to create this for you (just how you wanted it) needs to be recognized!!!

  64. Kelly September 26, 2013 at 6:08 am #

    Kimber, you can write pages of defense comments all over this page, but look at the common denominator in all these complaints … It is YOU! If you really want to stay in business and do the “right” thing, then make your customers happy. Please Please talk to an attorney bc they will tell you that you owe me a refund regardless of what you have tried to convince yourself.
    Instead of constantly arguing and trying to justify your wrong doing with customers, why don’t you for once do the proper thing and refund my money that you owe me. You should for your own future, you are really getting a terrible reputation with etsy!

  65. frieda12 September 26, 2013 at 8:48 am #

    Don’t forget that one can report mail fraud to the post office (Feds) if a seller isn’t delivering what is promised.

  66. Regina September 26, 2013 at 7:10 pm #

    Kelly, have you contacted Etsy about this? I would imagine they may look into it more since the shop is shut down. Didn’t they come up with some other excuse last time the shop was shut down….

  67. shabbymcCRAPPY October 5, 2013 at 12:14 am #

    BUYERS BEWARE. SHABBYMCFABBY’S STORE IS FRAUDULENT. YOU ARE NOT BUYING VINTAGE. YOU ARE BUYING A BRAND NEW FRAME!!

    I too bought what I thought was a vintage frame from shabbymcfabby(because it was listed as Vintage in the headline and she referred to it several times as vintage in our messages to each other).

    When I saw the exact same frame at IKEA it was a horrible feeling. The shabbymcabby shop completely mislead me, to put it nicely. Kimber and her husband are fraudulent liars to put it bluntly.

    It’s funny Kimber from shabbymcfabby is trying to say she purchased the IKEA frame from the same shipper yet not actually at IKEA:

    “It is not the same frame off the shelf at Ikea.

    We purchase our frames from the same manufacturer that they purchase them from”

    Is exactly what she said a couple posts up.

    Which is another blatant lie. That’s not what she said to me! In messages she sent to me on etsy she said verbatim that she purchased the frames from IKEA. That was apart of the whole sob story she tried to lay on me. She stated they had to drive 4 hours, each way, to purchase the frames [from IKEA]. Another part of her sob story is her ploy to try and turn the situation around on her customers. She would repeatedly say things like, “We are a small mom an pop business. Why would you try to do ‘this’ to a small mom and pop business?”

    ‘This’ being leave them a bad review. Which I am still yet to do and definitely will. I find it hard to believe that in 5 years of business not a single customer has caught on to shabbymcfabbys con and left her a bad review. hmm..

    And she also stated a couple posts up that:

    “do you honestly think think that the frame manufacturer only sells this frame to IKEA?”

    Which…uh…Yes we do honestly think that the frame manufacturer only sells that frame to IKEA because IKEA has specific designers working and designing products for IKEA. Specifically. A little off topic and beside the point, yet this exemplifies exactly the type of person we are dealing with here. She will say anything to try to pass the buck an avoid responsibility.

    The funny thing is I found out it was an IKEA frame before I even got my mirror. Before the order had been shipped. I tried to cancel my order with shabbymcfabby. I just wanted to wash my hands of the entire situation. There was no reasoning with Kimber from shabbymcfabby. The run around ‘conversation’ via messages was hard to deal with. I asked for a refund. She chose to stand by her store policy and not refund me. Kimber stated my frame would be to my house by a certain time. It is now weeks late. So here we are.

    LONG STORY SHORT:

    My entire beef with shabbymcfabby surprisingly isn’t the fact that they are selling repainted IKEA frames.

    (or not painted. I don’t believe for a second that they do actually repaint the black and white frames they buy from IKEA & then sell on etsy)

    Reworked stuff can totally be cool. It’s the fact that they blatantly lie about what their product is. They call it vintage and handmade when it is NOT. I don’t expect for them to state flat out that their product is from IKEA (or Marshells or TJMaxx or wherever). I do except them to be honest about what the product they are selling is. Plain and simple.

    Call it a new frame they added their own touches to, painted, reworked or whatever.

    Don’t call a product VINTAGE when it is BRAND NEW or HANDMADE when it is a MASS PRODUCED PRODUCT FROM A GIANT CORPORATION. I expect not to be lie to.

    It is fraudulent and shabbymcfabby knows it. I think deep down etsy knows it too. Which is why they keep shutting down her store. (She gave me the excuse that it was down because of technical issues and etsy was working with her on the problem..yeah okay.)

    Oh and Kelly, shabbymcfabby threatened to get their lawyer involved with me too. I would like to see them try. Good to see this is a go to defense they attempt to use when they are being called out on their lies.

    I think if we were getting orders “just how we wanted it” like Kimber stated. We would be getting vintage frames. Anyway,

    Kimber and Wade from shabbymcfabby aren’t you tried?! Aren’t you just absolutely worn out living with and maintaining all these lies? When is enough going to be enough?? You know your products aren’t vintage. And you know you didn’t make that hand made frame. You know painting something doesn’t make it hand made. Just retag all your items and call it a day. It’s that simple.

    The best/worst part is that she would often sign her messages with “blessings”. People like that honestly disgust me.

  68. Lorraine October 6, 2013 at 5:06 am #

    Thankfully their shop is still closed…..at least for now. But it has been closed for well over a month now so it doesn’t appear that it will be opening again. Doesn’t stop them from opening another shop though.

  69. shabbymcCRAPPY October 6, 2013 at 2:20 pm #

    Well, we will have to figure out what shabbymcfabby’s new shop name will be and link it to this page. They’ll let people know through their Facebook or Pinterest, so traffic will come to their ‘new’ Etsy shop.

    Funny this entire mess would have been avoided if they had just been honest about their product from the get go. If it’s a good product, people will buy it if the product appeals to them. Even if it is a repainted, brand new frame (we can say ‘reworked’ for the frames shabbymcfabby paired with the chalkboard or cork-board). Shabbymcfabby had to of known the level of up sale they were doing with their frames was complete highway robbery. Which is one of the reasons they felt they needed to lie about their product.

    L A M E!!

  70. Selena October 6, 2013 at 4:13 pm #

    Of course! I recently bought 20 frames for my wedding on etsy and the fact that they were store bought frames was not hidden, rather these frames were able to be customized in any of this sellers 40+ colors. I was even able to arrange them to be painted a color they didn’t have and the seller did that at no charge as it should be, so I had custom painted frames that matched my wedding colors! The problem with shabby mcfabby was that they were selling things just as you pick it up at ikea for 4-5x the cost and on top of that charged an extra $30 to change the color! Then made the customer wait 4-6 months for the item! That’s not right!

  71. Selena October 6, 2013 at 8:16 pm #

    Their 2 other shops have been shut down too! Romantic prairie home and Dreamy weddings is closed now too, not just shop closed but the link to them doesn’t even work anymore. Looks as if Etsy was serious this time and decided to shut down her whole operation. I am sure we haven’t heard the last of Kimber though!

  72. shabbymcCRAPPY October 9, 2013 at 9:38 am #

    Shabby Mcfabby is back up!! And the frames are still listed as ‘vintage’ and ‘hand made’. What should we all do about this?

    Dream Weddings and Romantic Prairie Home are still down.

  73. shabbymcCRAPPY October 9, 2013 at 9:44 am #

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    ~♥ ♥ ♥ ~

    ^Who do I remind you of? UGH

  74. shabbymcCRAPPY October 9, 2013 at 9:55 am #

    What is the process of reporting a fraudulent Etsy store to Esty? Is there one? I know Etsy is notoriously bad in dealing with these situations.

    What do you think we should do now? Buy a bunch of her lower cost items, then food her shop with bad reviews. Sue?

    Let’s brain store people.

    I should have never trusted a lady who~uses~♥ ♥ ♥ ‘s, types like she’s using text shorthand, and squiggles.~~~ (<—what are those even called?)

  75. frieda12 October 9, 2013 at 10:10 am #

    LOL about the little hearts.
    Does she get them from alibaba.com or similar importers
    or Ikea? Ikea might not approvr

  76. Kelly October 9, 2013 at 4:35 pm #

    I reported them to etsy. I looked up the main headquarters of etsy and sent email about these horrible people then someone from etsy called me. I let her know all about them AGAIN! Hopefully, if enough complain the word will get out. Wish I had read all this before I had dealings with them.

  77. Selena October 9, 2013 at 5:17 pm #

    The straight from ikea black frame with mirror us back up! Right here:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/97567149/gloss-black-mirror-any-color-large?ref=shop_home_active
    Nothing was changed in it, black with a mirror just as it is when you purchase it from ikea for 39.95!

  78. Selena October 9, 2013 at 5:20 pm #

    Funny…here she has the white one from ikea posted as well! Again not changed or upcycled!

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/101142880/shabby-chic-frame-white-large-ornate?ref=related-4

  79. shabbymcCRAPPY October 21, 2013 at 2:15 pm #

    Kelly can you please connect us to a link and/or phone number to contact etsy with? Thanks so much!

  80. Raelyn October 23, 2013 at 7:16 pm #

    I think its insane she sells stuff she picks up from “Hobby Lobby” as if she made it. Just look at her frames she sells for $10 each here

    https://www.etsy.com/listing/80513284/1-wedding-table-number-picture-frames?ref=shop_home_active

    They are $3.99 each at Hobby Lobby! But….she has them listed as “handmade” 2-4 weeks to make and an additional 1 week for shipping! Really? Come on this is an obvious reseller! She has over 200 listings for these same frames she buys from there and insanely marks up the cost! She ONLY offers them in the colors you can buy from the store! If she was painting them or altering them then ok…but she’s not!

    Anyone who lives near a Hobby Lobby and an IKEA can just go into the store and find just about any of Shabby Mcfabby’s so called “Handmade Creations”!

    INSANE, HOBBY LOBBY RESELLER!

    The secret is out…thats where she gets her HANDMADE CREATIONS!

  81. shabbymcCRAPPY November 17, 2013 at 4:57 pm #

    Also, please, join with me in calling out shabbymcfabby’s con all over the internet. If you do a google search of shabbymcabby go to the image tab. You will find many blogs have featured her store. We need to let other people know that shabbymcfabby is a scam selling fraudulent products. They deserve to know the truth! Not another person duped by Kimber and Wade at shabbymcfabby!!

  82. shabbymcCRAPPY November 17, 2013 at 5:10 pm #

    Also any twitter users want to call her out on there?

    I’m not sure how pinterest works. Is there a way to call her out on there?

  83. Suppliers November 20, 2013 at 10:53 am #

    Why pay hundreds of dollars for something from Shabby McFabby that you can get at Hobby Lobby or Ikea for a fraction of the price.

  84. Raelyn December 17, 2013 at 8:26 am #

    Closed down again….I wonder if this time its for good?

  85. Tina January 2, 2014 at 12:17 pm #

    I bought a framed magnet board from Shabbymcfabby for $240 and they just never bothered to send it. It’s been 6 months now and I can no longer contact them because they are off the Etsy page. Major Fraud!!

  86. shabbymcCRAPPY January 22, 2014 at 12:21 pm #

    Oh no Tina! Not you too! : ( Unfortunately Kimber and Wade from ShabbyMcfabby prey on the fact their customers don’t know Esty’s policies as well as they do. I believe that’s why they never have received a negative review.

    Esty gives you 60 days to review any purchases.

    ShabbyMcfabby says it will take more than 8 weeks to send your product = more than 60 days before you receive your item = over the time you have to review.

    ShabbyMcfabby figures if they make you wait more than 60 days to receive your item you won’t review it before you get it. Your 60 days will run out. You will be SOL.

    It’s all appart of ShabbyMcfabby’s con.

    It took me almost 5 months to receive my painted IKEA frame. (That she said was completely finished when I requested a refund 3 weeks into my order).

    : /

  87. shabbymcCRAPPY January 22, 2014 at 12:46 pm #

    Bah haha…

    Someone other than myself tried to log onto my email and change the password. Google informed me this, so I had to change my password due to the fraud on my account. nbd

    My email is:

    shabbymcfabbyfraud@gmail.com

    I wonder, oh! I wonder, just WHO? it could have been?!?!…

    *cough*cough*crazy conartist Kimber and Wade*cough*cough*

  88. shabbymcCRAPPY January 22, 2014 at 12:49 pm #

    Also let’s all keep tabs on ShabbyMcfabby’s never used blogspot. If Etsy has finally closed their store for good (wishful thinking) let’s make sure we link up the call out to that blog page too!

    http://shabbymcfabby.blogspot.com/

  89. shabbymcCRAPPY January 22, 2014 at 12:52 pm #

    Tina,

    Also, you CAN still message ShabbyMcfabby on Etsy even though her page is down. At least I was able to when this happened months ago. If she isn’t replying back it’s all appart of the con.

  90. shabbymcCRAPPY January 22, 2014 at 12:58 pm #

    Hey I found Shabby Mcfabby on ebay too! Though, she is no longer active on there.

    Here’s a link anyway:

    http://www.ebay.com/usr/shabbymcfabby

  91. Kristen January 22, 2014 at 3:22 pm #

    Hello Everyone,

    My name is Kristen, and I am the owner of Belle Memorie (www.bellememorie.com) and Belle Memorie Weddings on Etsy. I am also the founder and Captain of the Etsy Virtual Bridal Show Team. It came to my attention today that many of you have had difficulty with Shabby McFabby and I definitely appreciate the heads up. While for legal reasons, I cannot post such comments to my blog (I’m a disabled single parent of a special needs kiddo, so money is in short supply for a potential legal batter), I will and do remove such shops from my blog (including any and all references to the shop), from the YouTube channel that hosts my slide shows, as well as the Etsy Virtual Bridal Show Team.

    This is the second time I have had to do this to a member and it not only saddens, but angers me that you all are having these experiences at all, much less at such a special time as your wedding when emotions are already high. Please know that I will do everything in my power to contact the powers that be at Etsy to get your issues resolved.

    One way to protect yourself from such issues is to use PayPal and when using PayPal, use a credit/debit card to pay with. This gives you two extra layers of protection to help you get your money back. Etsy only gives you 60 days to report an issue where PayPal is 90 days (correct me if I’m wrong), and if on your credit/debit card, you can report the issue even further out with that.

    With that said, please feel free to email me at bellememorieco@gmail.com or contact me through my blog if you think I can be of any help or if you have an issue with a shop on the Etsy Virtual Bridal Show Team. Here is the post I just put on the team’s discussion board along with the link to the post.

    Just wanted you to see what I have posted to the Discussions section for the Etsy Virtual Bridal Show Team:

    “Hello all,

    It has come to my attention via several brides that they are experiencing issues with a now former member of our team. Please note that this team is all about helping couples make their special day the best it can be and when we use deceptive practices and fail to get our customers the products in a timely manner or fail to get them to us at all, it’s a reflection upon myself, my brand, as well as every shop associated with the team. Because team member’s shop names and links appear on my blog, it puts me in an awkward position when folks contact me and are angry about their experience with one of our team members. While I will not post such comments or emails to my blog, I do contact each and every one of them to help them resolve their issues with a seller privately, If there are multiple complaints or a shop is unwilling to fulfill their obligations to their customers, I will remove such shops from the team.

    This brings me to a point where I will be asking all potential members to agree to maintain communication with their customers, provide them with their purchases on the agreed upon deadline, and not run off with customer’s money. I hate to do this, but to protect my reputation and that of all of you, I feel it must be done.

    This is the second time I have tried to mitigate such a situation and it saddens me to do so. Our customers are purchasing items for the most important day in their life and I believe it is our responsibility to be upfront with turn around times, deadlines, and following through on getting the customer the items they ordered and not simply close up shop never to be heard from again.

    I hope you all understand and if this is something you feel you can not agree to, then please feel free to remove yourself from the team.

    Thanks so much,
    Kristen” -https://www.etsy.com/teams/11079/etsy-virtual-bridal-show-team/discuss/13778677/

    Take care all,
    Kristen

  92. shabbymcCRAPPY January 30, 2014 at 4:16 pm #

    Thanks for doing the right thing Kristen!

    If anyone is wondering where that came from, I have been contacting blogs that have featured Shabby Mcfabby’s Resold products. So far Kristen at Belle Memorie is the only one who has replied back.

  93. Kristen February 11, 2014 at 5:32 am #

    I received an email stating that the owners of the shop in question have hired attorneys who are planning to go after me for trying to help you all if I do not remove my post here on this blog or my post to the Etsy Virtual Bridal Show Team. In that email, I have been wrongly accused of: reporting to and being in collusion with Etsy as well as libel. The email sent was intended for me, only I received it, and only I (as stated in the email) have permission to distribute the information contained therein. I will not post the email in it’s entirety, but am informing those of you who are still having issues with your purchases and have supported me. I have asked that the owners of the shop provide you all with a means to contact them directly so that you can work together to solve your respective issues.

    With that said, please note that all aforementioned statements and statements that follow regarding the shop in question, its owners, and its practices are not endorsements or statements of fact regarding said shop or its owners (detrimental or beneficial) and is merely opinion based on the information presented to me both here on this site as well as via personal email. Again, my statements are not to be seen as an endorsement or statement of fact (detrimental or beneficial) of any former customer of the shop in question, as an endorsement or statement of fact of the shop in question or its owners or their practices, or as an endorsement or statement of fact of Etsy, Paypal and any other entity mentioned in my posts.

    I’ve given three straight years of free advertising and promotion to all members of the Etsy Virtual Bridal Show Team, never asking for a dime, and never any sort of contributions to reader giveaways or promotions. Everything that I do to support my fellow Etsy shops via my blog and the Etsy Virtual Bridal Show and its team, I have done for free and to bring awareness to my chosen charity, Wish Upon A Wedding. I require no fees and require that no one (shops or readers) contribute to Wish Upon A Wedding. Believe me, I could use the money as I have been disabled since 2006 and once my retirement and savings were used up two years ago, have been fighting to get SSDI. I am a single parent of a child with Autism and I home school him as well as try to eek out every penny of what I receive from his father in support and the contributions of my fiance. Our household makes too much for governmental assistance (other than medical) and often not enough to make ends meet as do many of my fellow Etsy shop owners and fellow bloggers. It’s only been recently that I began attempting to make any money on my blog and only via affiliate programs. I make zero money from my blog, from the Etsy Virtual Bridal Show Team, and have made one sale via my Etsy shop. Obviously, my motivation in assisting my readers and making sure that my blog and my team are viewed with integrity is not money.

    I do what I do because I want to provide couples with a bit of sunshine and assistance in their wedding planning process. I want everyone to know that they can have a lovely wedding at any cost and one that reflects who they are, despite the pressures from much of the wedding industry that says otherwise. I do what I do with the Etsy Virtual Bridal Show Team to help other crafters, artists, and vintage purveyors make a living as I am also trying to do while my health and financial situation rest in the hands of others. I bring awareness to Wish Upon A Wedding, because I want to see everyone, regardless of their health and time on this earth to have their dream wedding.

    I did attempt to contact the shop in question directly prior to removal from the Etsy Virtual Bridal Show Team and my post above, but could not as their shop had been closed. I contacted Etsy to see if they could provide me with a way of contacting the shop, but of course they were unable to do so. I formed my opinion with the best information that I had available and since there had been issues reported on this blog as far back as 2011, I felt I had to act in order to maintain my reputation, that of my brand, that of the Etsy Virtual Bridal Show and its team, as well as Etsy. I stand by my decision to act on my opinion in order to diminish impact to myself, my blog, my show, my team and associated businesses.

  94. frieda12 February 11, 2014 at 10:00 am #

    You’re amazing! Don’t let them scare you off!
    It would cost them a *fortune* to sue you, and they would lose
    anyway. Hiring a lawyer for a letter is cheap but that’s it.
    I’d counter sue for harassment and a frivolous suit IF they tried.
    You know, it’s illegal to defraud people and use the US mail to do it.
    Criminal activities should be reported. Their lawyers probably don’t have the full
    story, if there even is a lawyer in retainer.

  95. Kristen February 11, 2014 at 3:32 pm #

    It wasn’t even a letter from a lawyer. It was a personal email with lots of exclamation points and all caps. I didn’t state anything other than my opinion based on a history of issue presented to me in private and on this blog. I’m not too concerned, because I have and own nothing of any value…unless you count my fabulous Craigslist purchased purple sofa that I paid $100 for three years ago…lol.

  96. frieda12 February 12, 2014 at 12:32 am #

    Hahaha! What a nutty thief…

  97. shabbymcfabby February 12, 2014 at 2:19 pm #

    If you are in need to contact Shabby McFabby in regards to an order, please do so at:

    shabbymcfabby@yahoo.com

    Please allow 24-48 hrs to respond back to you.

    Thank you!

  98. shabbymcCRAPPY February 12, 2014 at 7:58 pm #

    Don’t worry Kristen. Shabby Mcfabby has threatened to sue all of us.

  99. Selena March 17, 2014 at 12:50 pm #

    What a load of crap, kimber you should be ashamed of yourself and how you treated and continue to treat your customers. We all work hard for every dime we make and do not appreciate people like you scamming everyone. Grow up, I hope you learned your lesson!

  100. shabbymcCRAPPY March 18, 2014 at 7:42 pm #

    Selena, I saw that too! We’ll have to keep our eyes peeled.

  101. shabbymcCRAPPY August 10, 2014 at 12:32 pm #

    Haven’t seen any updates on Shabby Mcfabby for awhile now.. I wonder if Kimber and Wade totally scrapped the name and re-opened an Etsy shop with a brand new name? This would probably be the best bet for them, considering how tarnished the Shabby McFabby name is. Unfortunately, if they did do this, it would be safe to assume the new shop would be full of the same ‘ol repainted, brand new mirrors labeled as “”VINTAGE””.

    Just a thought, because the Shabby Mcfabby Etsy shop has been down for quite some time now.

  102. Gabby charteris July 11, 2015 at 3:27 pm #

    Hi there,
    I purchased two cork boards from kimber in October 2013 including shipping to australia approx $670….which I paid….I have never received any goods after months & months of broken promises via email. It’s truly a ugly soul that can sleep at night knowing that she has been a purposely deceitful human. I splashed out & ordered acork board for my brand new baby’s nursey & my brand new nieces nursey too!!
    After promises of shipping in the coming weeks….next two weeks…..the next three weeks….so on…,I was then told of a serious illness that has lead to becoming bankrupt and then the requirement to sell their home. Looking back on the email correspondence it is quiet ridiculous the lengths robert (possibly kimber also) went to to keep on making false promises. But one thing I am sure of is Both kimber & Robert did know the etsy & PayPal terms & purposely strung me along with false promises until they knew they could keep my money. I certainly hope that the karma bus catches up with you both. Like I said via email I hope you can sleep at night because if I behaved like you both I couldn’t get a wink.
    Gabby melbourne australia

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