modemerr

17 Jul

Yet another wholesaler on Etsy:
-Selling commercial or mass-produced items in Etsy’s handmade categories is not permitted
Shop modemerr:
http://www.etsy.com/shop/modemerr

Here is the website and there are plenty of other wholesalers of this brand. There are plenty of sites for shops like this. Please keep Etsy clean.
http://www.modemerr.com/

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46 Responses to “modemerr”

  1. Life During Wartime July 17, 2011 at 9:41 am #

    I think under Etsy vague rules, a manufacturer can sell in an Etsy shop and call itself ‘a collective’. This is not a shop reselling modemerr.

  2. marie July 17, 2011 at 10:57 am #

    question – what do you all think of this?
    this seller (item) was featured on front page the other day – the skirt is cute, but the description says

    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/53819535

    “this cute skirt is called ‘Star’. It is an environmental friendly skirt made of left over pieces of jersey fabrics (92% cotton, 8% elastan) mostly from my previous pieces. I just could not throw them away. I have been collecting these fabrics for many months they are now enough to be put into good use. I cut them into small panels, which were neatly and professionally hand crafted into this lovely and youthful skirt. ”

    she has already sold six and still has it for sale. . . how much left over material can one have and how many skirts can some make handmade in one day?

  3. creeperjess.etsy.com July 17, 2011 at 11:10 am #

    Oooh this is a controversial topic… how much production is enough to be labeled a “mass-producer” of handmade items?

    What do you guys think? Sounds to me like there’s a fine line between being productive and mass-producing.

  4. marie July 17, 2011 at 11:13 am #

    I am a sewer (just clothes for my daughter, so not a professional), but i can barely make one skirt a day – the seller i posted above sold 6 things yesterday , , , how can one do that all by themselves?

    i think the question for the call out featured and mine is are they really handmade by themselves like the descriptions say, or do they have a warehouse with tons of workers? if they do, then they are handmade, right?

  5. creeperjess.etsy.com July 17, 2011 at 11:14 am #

    @Marie you should convo her and see what she says!! It’s at least enough to be suspicious…

  6. marie July 17, 2011 at 11:20 am #

    LOL – you convo her – i double dog dare you 🙂
    which reminds me, i really need to start to post with another name, LOL.

  7. creeperjess.etsy.com July 17, 2011 at 11:51 am #

    Ha–maybe I will convo her! I guess I have to, since you double dog dared me. How do you know she made them all in one day? She doesn’t say how soon she ships, just that she ships twice a week, so maybe she takes orders then makes the skirts? But you are right, how much left over fabric could she possibly have…

    Her profile does say she works full-time at home so I dunno–maybe. Just looks a little suspicious.

    I think under the rules of etsy you can have a collaboration, multiple people working, but you have to disclose who all is working..right?

  8. marie July 17, 2011 at 12:00 pm #

    umm – she says

    “The above sizes are already in stock and will be shipped within 3 working days after the item is ordered and paid for. “

  9. creeperjess.etsy.com July 17, 2011 at 12:08 pm #

    I’ll let you know if she replies!

  10. marie July 17, 2011 at 12:08 pm #

    and jess, you do have to disclose, but she only says she makes the clothes. . . yet she has all sized in stock? she must be like superwoman.

  11. creeperjess.etsy.com July 17, 2011 at 12:48 pm #

    Sent a convo–then saw this on her blog:
    http://thongbaitatong.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-skirts-i-waited-so-that-things.html?spref=tw

    If she is not handmaking her items herself, she is certainly putting a lot of time into making her items look handmade.

  12. Thud July 17, 2011 at 1:17 pm #

    I make patchwork skirts.
    I make my skirts 3-4 at once, so I can finish them all in one day, yes.
    And I can list them all at once. and make another similar (not exact) from my remaining fabric in a different size…
    it is possible 🙂

  13. Thud July 17, 2011 at 1:19 pm #

    Just looked at hers more closely… they aren’t that tricky and she uses a serger.
    I can do several in a day with 40-50 pieces, her have 5 -10. Easy peasy!

  14. marie July 17, 2011 at 1:27 pm #

    okay – but she says she makes them all by herself – in her in home studio, but has “all sizes in stock” how can she make so many when she just uses “left over pieces of jersey fabrics?”

  15. Kitty July 17, 2011 at 4:50 pm #

    “okay – but she says she makes them all by herself – in her in home studio, but has “all sizes in stock” how can she make so many when she just uses “left over pieces of jersey fabrics?”

    She makes lots of other clothes. So, having plentiful scraps is very likely. And when you make clothing, there is a great deal of left-over fabric, because often times you are placing pattern pieces on the grain/and or/ pattern–so it’s not economical like say, a pillow which is rectangular or square and you fit lots onto the fabric.

    As for having several sizes in stock, that’s not surprising at all. She sells a lot, has a built in customer base, and this is a new product for her. I’d bet she didn’t make 10 of each size, but has actually calculated what the spread is on what sizes sell best and sewed accordingly. She’s well prepared for the demand—and her sales prove the point! She knew people would want these skirts, and they do. That’s not suspicious, that’s good business!

    I think it’s a HUGE stretch to assume that’s she a reseller just because she sews her products in advance. If that’s the case, then I’m a reseller too!

  16. Thud July 17, 2011 at 6:13 pm #

    Me, too, Kitty 😉

  17. marie July 17, 2011 at 6:37 pm #

    since i am not a seamstress, i will take your word for it 🙂 i think it just seemed odd that she has so much left over, but you all are the experts, i stand corrected!

  18. apronlady July 17, 2011 at 7:55 pm #

    It’s very easy to produce a large number of like items when you know what you’re doing. 🙂 You get a rhythm, especially with something as simple as this. I’m not down-talking the skirts, (they’d be a challenge for me) it’s just that some things become simple when you make enough of them. You do all your cutting at once, then the sewing in stages, stuff like that – it’s wonderful when you can create a successful idea and process. I know a woman who does this assembly-line type of production for aprons. Cuts out a dozens bodies, cuts out the ties, cuts out dozens of pockets, sews the ties to the bodies, sews the pockets to the bodies. She can several dozen in a weekend and they sell like hotcakes at shows.

  19. Lisa July 17, 2011 at 8:03 pm #

    From someone who sews and quilts…I have the fabric in my little sewing room right now to make hundreds of those skirts. We sewers love to collect fabric . 🙂

  20. Life During Wartime July 17, 2011 at 8:43 pm #

    For all the used shoe fans, there’s a pair on the Etsy front page right now:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/73423097/chestnut-brown-leather-ankle-boots-with?ref=fp_treasury_11

    Basic Editions is a Chinese company started in 1995. Yup, again! Not vintage.

  21. creeperjess.etsy.com July 17, 2011 at 11:33 pm #

    Here’s her reply, she was very cordial! I feel bad that I hurt her feelings, but hopefully this will lay all suspicion to rest. She really is a superwoman.

    Dear Jessie,

    Thank you very much for your message and concern about my skirt. It hurts me having to explain myself. But I would like to tell you that I make all the clothes by myself. I am a full time worker, I work from home 7 days a week. I do not have children. And I can sew up to 5 skirts per day. If you look closely, my skirts are very easy to make and I am a professional seamstress.

    When I design one skirt I make all the sizes first before I put them for sale on Etsy. It could mean that it takes me a few weeks to work on one product before you see them on Etsy. I also offer customization for most of the skirts , which include the skirt that you have refered to.

    This skirt was sold very well a few days ago because it was on the Front Page, twice in the same day. In fact 5 of them were sold on 15 July. However, only 1 of the 5 orders was the skirt that was in stock. 4 of them were made to measure, where people wanted adjustment its measurements and length. In the product description, I tell people to leave a message upon check out that if they want a custom skirt they can just leave a message telling me their measurements.

    I still have to make them. And as mentioned in the description turnaround time is one week. I do have time to make them in the coming days.

    I hope that my message explains things clearly. Though the suspicion hurts me but I do appreciate your concern about my work, as well as your concern about other products on Etsy. Thank you, Jessie. Have a nice day.

    Kind regards,
    Thongbai

  22. you suck July 18, 2011 at 4:45 am #

    Bai makes all her clothes. She is an artisan with mentors on Etsy who know her very well, and you buys, are ASSHOLES

  23. you suck July 18, 2011 at 4:46 am #

    *guys are assholes.

    maybe get to know your fellow sellers instead of hanging out here, Jess.

  24. marie July 18, 2011 at 5:14 am #

    [you suck] it wasn’t a call out, just a suspision and unfortunately, do to all the shady sellers on etsy, a lot of of are leery. her stuff is super cute, but all the resellers on etsy have made buyers like me question everyone – sad, but true.

    above, I say, “i stand corrected” and this was before her reply
    AND jess even called her a superwoman – so seriously, name calling is not really necessary.

  25. BelleStarr July 18, 2011 at 5:48 am #

    I’m so glad so many of you jumped to Thongbai’s defense. She is an honest and hardworking vendor, and her response to the letter was courteous and professional.

  26. paula July 18, 2011 at 7:10 am #

    I agree with BelleStarr. I have known Thongbai for over a year and know how hard she works. She loves what she does and she works 7 days a week. It is her passion and she is genuine and honest!

  27. ohmeohmy July 18, 2011 at 8:50 am #

    I would suggest that if you cannot find an item on alibaba or any of the numerous wholesale sites, please don’t call out sellers. Or any other type of info, like when a company has opened (like life during wartime did with the shoes–good sleuthing!)

    Your “suspicion” is really not enough. Proof, like links and pics are great.

    Just calling out on “suspicion” really is not fair to legit sellers.

  28. ohmeohmy July 18, 2011 at 8:51 am #

    If I was Bai, I would be furious! Etsycalloutblog is not a place you want to find your shop mentioned.

  29. [oh no you didnt] July 18, 2011 at 10:02 am #

    I dont think bai should be furious. A question was raised, suspicions were put to rest and many people backed her up. If anything, she probably got a lot of traffic and we all know almost any publicity is good publicity. Many of the people actually called out (bai wasn’t even called out ~ look up past people who have been called out), continue to do good business. I know a few resellers and designers that have been called out here and make sales every single day.

  30. em July 18, 2011 at 10:41 am #

    *What [oh no you didnt] said*

    These days, pretty much anyone who sells on Etsy is fair game. It’s Etsy’s fault for only selectively enforcing their own rules. I don’t think it’s unfair to question it at all, and the issue was cleared up anyway, so I find it impossible that bai’s business would be hurt in any way. How many true resellers do we call out here who keep selling as much as they did before?

  31. Life During Wartime July 18, 2011 at 10:50 am #

    I love bai’s shop, and if I were younger and wore skirts, I would buy one. But they are all too short — too young — for me. Her items are obviously handmade (to me, anyway) and NOT some lame attempt to copy a ‘vintage style’. The clothes are cute and have some class, too.

    The problem with Etsy is the site has a certain rep now. Even (maybe especially?) when you see someone with great items who obviously works super hard to made their online business what it is, we think ‘must be a reseller because no serious indie business would sell on Etsy unless they were there before all the carp started.’

  32. Sammy July 18, 2011 at 7:51 pm #

    Ah Heartsy, you have herp derped again. Today they featured Yummi Shop, the felted rug reseller. http://heartsy.me/shops/4050-yummi-shop
    I sent them a long-winded reprimand, but as they keep featuring resellers, I doubt they care any more than Etsy does. The almighty god of money speaks louder than anyone else can.

  33. Kitty July 18, 2011 at 8:24 pm #

    Just because Etsy has a reputation for resellers, doesn’t mean that it’s excusable to call out a seller on a suspicion. And let’s just be clear here, you can use whatever kind of justification you like, but if you post it on a PUBLIC site, especially one as well read as this one, you are calling out.

    Give me a break. People need to be careful. YES, there are resellers… but I’d rather see resellers thrive, than see honest, hard working artisans wrongly “suspected” and livelihoods threatened.

    If you can’t back up your “suspicion” with evidence, perhaps it’s best kept to yourself. There is so much wrong with this “suspicion” —it’s appalling.

  34. marie July 18, 2011 at 8:45 pm #

    i already said sorry, but i will say it again.. bai, i am sorry. you are a superwoman.

    maybe eco can remove any reference to her name?

  35. A July 19, 2011 at 2:36 am #

    No offense on your sewing skills, but jeez, if it took me all day to make a patchwork skirt…I wouldn’t make comments from an expert sewer’s point of view.

  36. marie July 19, 2011 at 6:24 am #

    {a} maybe you didn’t read above where it says “since i am not a seamstress, i will take your word for it” 🙂 we all have our skills, none of us our experts in everything, never said i was a pro… i was only questionning the left overs and geesh. my best friend is a doctor, but it takes the girl a weekend to make a dress. we all aren’t perfect like you 🙂

  37. ohmeohmy July 19, 2011 at 7:11 am #

    [oh no you didnt]
    July 18, 2011 at 10:02 am #
    I dont think bai should be furious. A question was raised, suspicions were put to rest and many people backed her up. If anything, she probably got a lot of traffic and we all know almost any publicity is good publicity. Many of the people actually called out (bai wasn’t even called out ~ look up past people who have been called out), continue to do good business. I know a few resellers and designers that have been called out here and make sales every single day.
    ——————————–

    I disagree. Etsycallout is not good publicity. Let’s save it for the true resellers, liars, and cheats. There are plenty of them to call out!

  38. Stacey July 19, 2011 at 7:21 am #

    my best friend is a doctor, but it takes the girl a weekend to make a dress. we all aren’t perfect like you 🙂
    ———
    Is a doctor the same as a seamstress? No. It takes me a weekend to make a dress. Because I am not a seamstress. It would also take me a weekend to suture a wound, because I am also not a doctor.

    Have you ever seen a professional seamstress at work? Then perhaps you should keep suspicions to yourself.

  39. marie July 19, 2011 at 7:29 am #

    point taken. i am not one to argue, online nor in real life. so i will kindly (and quietly step away).

  40. WhoreForColor July 19, 2011 at 7:58 pm #

    I bought some skirts from Thongbai earlier this year, custom sizes, and I have worn them all summer, and even took them on vacation – being cotton knits, they travel so well. They are very comfortable and well made, and stand up to washing. She is very friendly and works incredibly fast, and I was happy to see her blog, which I didn’t know about.

    She knows what she’s doing. I hope to order a dress from her at some point – the dress styles are a little “young” for me, but maybe I’ll get over that idea soon and just buy one.

  41. Life During Wartime July 20, 2011 at 1:18 pm #

    I have to give credit to Etsy — it looks like they are finally paying attention to shops that are reported for reselling and other rule breaking. shabbymcfabby’s three shops are back, minus the reseller items and with things in the proper main categories (handmade or supplies).

    SweetsIndeed has had its items disappeared, and hopefully will return with the items that are handmade by them, minus the reseller products.

    The firefly jar reseller item with the new pic is gone (the link goes to the oops knitter) from Etsy, and PinkAlley has added a bunch more handmade things to her shop.

    This is more action than I’ve seen on reported shops in years! Maybe once word gets around that you can no longer count on getting away with being a partial reseller, people will stop trying to break the rules.

  42. cynicallyopenminded July 20, 2011 at 2:24 pm #

    I noticed that Candy Bead cleaned up her tags.

  43. ohmeohmy July 20, 2011 at 4:55 pm #

    Yet portobello remains…

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