PixieMarket

26 Jul

etsy:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/67740717/sterling-silver-origami-crane-on
Alibaba
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/404443003/Matte_silver_Origami_Crane_earrings.html

etsy:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/64894526/matte-gold-little-bird-earrings-on
Alibaba
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?SearchText=+little+bird+earrings+on+vermeil&Country=&CatId=0&IndexArea=product_en&fsb=y&viewAllCategory=

etsy:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/67740717/sterling-silver-origami-crane-on
Alibaba
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/454045992/Hot_sale_latest_fashion_Origami_Crane.html

Etsy:
http://www.etsy.com/transaction/53893805
Alibaba:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/404443003/Matte_silver_Origami_Crane_earrings.html

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58 Responses to “PixieMarket”

  1. Life During Wartime July 26, 2011 at 8:55 am #

    Here’s a link directly to the shop:
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/PixieMarket?ref=seller_info

    I see they are using photos from AliBaba, always a bad sign. It can be argued that an Etsy shop owner can purchase the same origami findings and make the same simple assembled jewelry. But that doesn’t explain why an Etsy shop is sharing photos with an AliBaba merchant.

  2. TheBargainBabe July 26, 2011 at 10:02 am #

    While reporting all of Pixie’s crap and searching for more like it, i found BeadCouture. Haven’t they been called out before? They’ve got a listing for some gold bird earrings/necklace straight off alibaba

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/61847367/love-birds-gold-love-bird-on-small-ball?confirm_reported=1

    Here are the earrings on alibaba
    http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?SearchText=+little+bird+earrings+on+vermeil&Country=&CatId=0&IndexArea=product_en&fsb=y&viewAllCategory

  3. Anonymous This Time July 26, 2011 at 10:17 am #

    Bird lariat necklaces. Funny new treasury. 😉

    http://www.etsy.com/treasury/NTgzNzQ3MHw0OTY1MjUzOTI/love-the-lariat-birdies

  4. ohmeohmy July 26, 2011 at 10:47 am #

    These are all etsy legal. Charm on a chain and assembled jewelry is legit.

    Sometimes, manufacturers on alibaba still images from etsy shops. When using commercial findings, you will find a lot of similar or same designs. There is only so much you can do with a charm and chain.

    There have been previous past raging debates about “charm on a chain” jewelry and assembling.

  5. ohmeohmy July 26, 2011 at 10:47 am #

    “steal” not “still”

  6. Life During Wartime July 26, 2011 at 11:32 am #

    Yes, charms on a chain and dangles on an earring finding are all Etsy legit as handmade (assembled) jewelry. But PixieMarket’s photos appear to be taken by a bunch of different people, often by different people within the same listing. Seeing the ripped off Disney character in her banner and avatar doesn’t give her any points for honesty, either.

  7. Life During Wartime July 26, 2011 at 11:48 am #

    Other shops:
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/PixieSupplies

    The shells seem to be professionally photographed. Check out the Home Decor section, and note that some pics were taken in a shop where multiples of the item are displayed.

    Like this one:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/60044742/decorative-seashell-bottle
    check the third photo. Quote from description: “The bottle is not sealed and can be reused or rearranged but I wouldn’t open it because the little sea horse and cork top could be destroyed.” Does this sound like she made this item? Listed as Handmade Glass!

  8. Life During Wartime July 26, 2011 at 12:00 pm #

    Shop number three sells bridal jewelry:
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/BridalJewelryShop

    All three shops are disclosed in all the shops, so this is perfectly Etsy legal.

  9. jobradleyviamargutta51 July 26, 2011 at 1:43 pm #

    It’s eerie how similar the birdie lariat necklaces are, most have the same chain and are of the same length, perhaps it’s merely lack of originality. None of them are tagged as handmade.

  10. cynicallyopenminded July 26, 2011 at 2:39 pm #

    I agree with the above poster. I know there is only so much you can do with those charms, but I’m pretty sure I could make something besides a lariat necklace.

  11. Anonymous This Time July 26, 2011 at 3:06 pm #

    Re: The lariats
    If I am not mistaken the alibaba listing is for an entire necklace, not just the charms. So I think MOST of the people selling that necklace are just blatantly reselling from alibaba. Now some do seem to add their own charm or maybe manually take off the bird/branch and put it on a diff chain…which would be etsy acceptable.

    But really, ALL of those in the treasury, not a coincidence.

  12. adoringhaag July 26, 2011 at 4:50 pm #

    ohmeohmy July 26, 2011 at 10:47 am #

    These are all etsy legal. Charm on a chain and assembled jewelry is legit.

    Sometimes, manufacturers on alibaba still images from etsy shops. When using commercial findings, you will find a lot of similar or same designs. There is only so much you can do with a charm and chain.

    There have been previous past raging debates about “charm on a chain” jewelry and assembling.

    ___

    I agree.

    and it can be the chicken or the egg question, which came first? did the notorious alibaba steal from an etsy shop owner and or did the shop owner buy the commercial chain and charm and put them together or is the shop owner buying from alibaba?

    any above scenario would be hard to prove. it still comes down to a charm on a chain and etsy legal to sell.

  13. ohmeohmy July 26, 2011 at 7:03 pm #

    She looks like she is using a technique of laying jewelry on top of photos. It’s actually a smart way to show earrings since people balk at live models of earrings.

    I see a lot of this type jewelry on etsy. It seems to sell well because it’s simple. Nothing wrong here.

  14. cynicallyopenminded July 27, 2011 at 3:56 am #

    No argument with the Etsy legal issue. However, I do think it is amazingly odd coincidence that there are so many people out there with the same exact necklace, clasp, chain, and charm. With the original store being called out, she uses photos from Ali Baba which indicates to me that she is reselling. As a result I look at the rest of the necklaces with skepticism. Could Ali Baba have stolen the idea from an Etsy seller? Yeah, but I doubt it. Does anyone remember the backlash against Urban Outfitters with the outlines of the states and the heart cut out? I haven’t read a peep about that anywhere. My take is there are a bunch of resellers on Etsy who doing well with selling an extremely unoriginal piece.

  15. cynicallyopenminded July 27, 2011 at 5:05 am #

    Pixie Market commented on the treasury that appears earlier in this post. She/they are stating that Ali Baba stole their photos.

  16. christine July 27, 2011 at 7:14 am #

    LMAO!!! I LOVE the first comment on the bird treasury:

    “Nice one… I like the one with the bird. And the leaves.”

    I just about spit up my coffee on that one!

  17. christine July 27, 2011 at 7:20 am #

    To play Devil’s Advocate for a moment… there are

    TONS of photographers who sell vintage processed photos of Ferris Wheels

    TONS of moms who buy tulle from Halo Heaven and tie up pink Tutus
    (The same moms buy the Daisy Flowers with a Rhinestone in it and sell those with said Tutus)

    Etsy is a plethora of copycats who find what sells and duplicate it.

  18. Whoa July 27, 2011 at 7:50 am #

    I wouldn’t call it “amazingly odd.” More like an overwhelming lack of creativity.

  19. Megan July 27, 2011 at 8:22 am #

    Etsy – the place for “original” handcrafted goods!

  20. christine July 27, 2011 at 8:22 am #

    Handmade?
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/76597238/hot-pink-zebra-pettiskirt-size-0-2t-or?ref=pr_shop

    Or, is this the same item here:
    http://www.haloheaven.com/pettiskirts.html

    Seller Says “Note: All products are made in a smoke & pet free home”

  21. ohmeohmy July 27, 2011 at 8:27 am #

    I think because jewelry is so saturated, people make it and sell it on etsy for different reasons, all of the reasons quite respectable. I don’t think it’s a matter of lack of imagination, but plain economics.

    Some make their items to express themselves through their art. Some are hobbists and enjoy making anything crafty, and some are trying to make a lttle money.

    In every one of those shops with the bird lariat, they have many sales. People seem to like to buy simple jewelry.

  22. Life During Wartime July 27, 2011 at 11:04 am #

    Christine, here is someone selling the exact same pink and zebra petti, using the second photo from the Etsy shop:
    http://ifyousaysewgifts.com/item_32/Hot-Pink-Zebra-Pettiskirt.htm

    In fact, here’s a spread of Google Images of mostly identical pettis:
    http://www.google.com/imgres?q=pink+and+zebra+pettiskirt&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1024&bih=560&tbm=isch&tbnid=esRRxvfluVxkuM:&imgrefurl=http://www.blingblingbaby.com.au/taxonomy/term/43/0&docid=TSa6TGIWRGTQGM&w=400&h=600&ei=_l8wTqCSM8XLgQeRzvB9&zoom=1

    And there are several online stores using photo number two — and I am not even bothering with the pis from AliBaba.

    I am getting a distinct wiff of reseller.

  23. christine July 27, 2011 at 11:58 am #

    IMO, I really do not think putting a prefab charm on a prefab chain is “expressing oneself through art.”

  24. TheBargainBabe July 27, 2011 at 1:05 pm #

    I thought all the bird lariat necklaces were straight from alibaba. The chains all look the same to me. I realize that putting a charm on a chain is technically legal. But these don’t even appear to fall into that category.
    Pixie commented on the treasury, claiming alibaba stole her pics. Then she took her item off the treasury.

    Green Peridot left me these lovely comments:
    ——
    Greenperidot says:

    7 hours ago

    Perhaps the Bargain Babe is a little perplexed…she has only had 17 sales in 3 years…just sayin’ ; )

    It is called making what customers actually want to buy

    ——-
    Greenperidot says:

    7 hours ago

    It is really odd, I read your profile and I am shocked that a person who “loves her Savior” would post this treasury. You may not like it, but these are Etsy legal, and customers request them…

    Sorry you are such a bitter person…maybe you should hide some inspiring lunch box notes around your own house, they are actually very cute.

    —-Greenperidot says:

    7 hours ago

    You may not like it, but these are Etsy legal, and customers request them…

    Sorry you are such a bitter person…maybe you should hide some inspiring lunch box notes around your own house, they are actually very cute.

  25. cynicallyopenminded July 27, 2011 at 1:17 pm #

    TBB ^, I agree that they all look like reseller items. The same chain and clasp combo is too coincidental.

  26. Karen July 27, 2011 at 1:29 pm #

    I do have a question regarding the origami cranes. How is it Etsy legal to say this is ‘Sterling Silver’ when their source, Ali Baba says the Main Material is an alloy ?????
    I’d be pissed off if I bought ‘silver’ and it was junk metal!

  27. jobradleyviamargutta51 July 27, 2011 at 1:54 pm #

    I have heard of Alibaba or AliExpress stealing photos from Etsy shops before and found an example within seconds.
    The Zoey Zebra crochet baby hat http://www.etsy.com/listing/75224789/zoey-the-zebra?ref=sr_gallery_11&ga_search_query=crochet+baby+zebra+hat+-pattern&ga_page=3&ga_search_type=handmade&ga_facet=handmade

    http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/436017489-wholesale-baby-children-horn-shape-lovely-beanie-baby-crochet-hat-handmade-baby-cao-0-12month-20pcs-wholesalers.html
    see baby photo 5. AliExpress stole her photo and typed their own name right on top of the photographers watermark!

  28. Life During Wartime July 27, 2011 at 2:29 pm #

    Just because the AliBaba cranes are silvertone, silver plated, or silver colored alloy, doesn’t mean the items on Etsy aren’t Sterling. I looked on the web, and there are a bunch of non-Etsy jewelers selling sterling silver origami crane items. It is possible that the cranes on AliBaba are cheapo copies of the sterling cranes.

  29. just me July 27, 2011 at 2:36 pm #

    TBB
    Wow.
    Usually people that are innocent, dont start throwing stones.
    Just sayin’

  30. kitten July 27, 2011 at 5:13 pm #

    TheBargainBabe said:

    Green Peridot left me these lovely comments:
    _____________________________________

    Really, what did you expect? Posting this treasury is really not very Christian like so Green Peridot has a point. You really don’t know POSITIVELY that these sellers are reselling without altering. Even if they are resellers, this treasury is in bad taste and reflects more on your character (or should I say lack of).

  31. TheBargainBabe July 28, 2011 at 6:38 am #

    TY Cynicallyopenminded for the comment. Every necklace looks exactly the same. I don’t see how they’ve been altered to be etsy legal?

    Kitten–I respectfully disagree. These sellers are reselling which is unethical because it goes against etsy’s clear terms of use. I don’t see a problem with a treasury that shows, side by side, all the items being wrongly sold on etsy. This whole blog is dedicated to calling out resellers and such. Same concept as the treasury, just a different medium. I don’t see a problem with this blog either.

  32. Trista July 28, 2011 at 6:40 am #

    lol I love that- How un-Christian of you to point out someone elses un-Christian behavior.

    For the record, I personally don’t believe for a second that any of those people altered those necklaces or assembled them from supplies. They can be bought not just on Alibaba but also on Ebay and probably many other places around the net. Fom the pictures, they look 100% identical. Yeah, Alibaba sometimes steals pictures and copies products but I think in the vast majority of cases people are just reselling these certain items because they know they can get away with it by pulling the “you don’t know if it was assembled or not” card.

  33. cynicallyopenminded July 28, 2011 at 6:57 am #

    I stand corrected re: Ali Baba stealing photos.

    TBB, Etsy legal for jewelry is simply opening a jumping and attaching the charms and clasp. At least that is my understanding.

  34. Life During Wartime July 28, 2011 at 10:13 am #

    cynicallyopenminded is right. Simple assembled jewelry is considered handmade for Etsy, and that makes it nearly impossible for someone reselling mass produced jewelry to be proven a reseller. The only exceptions, IMO, are jewelry items that are one piece — nothing to assemble — like a cast ring for example.

  35. TheBargainBabe July 28, 2011 at 11:07 am #

    LDW, I understand. But what I don’t understand is that the alibaba bird branch necklaces are sold as entire, completed pieces. (nothing to assemble) So if someone on etsy is selling them without adding a bead or something, they are reselling right?

    Or are you suggesting that they are changing the little clasp on the necklace and then that makes it “legal” so they list it?

  36. Life During Wartime July 28, 2011 at 11:46 am #

    For jewelry that uses a trendy motif — like the cranes, the birdies and branches, or the sideways crosses in a callout a few weeks back — there are going to be examples for sale that are hand-assembled and some that are resold. For most items like my examples, it is impossible to prove that a charm on a chain isn’t assembled by the seller. AliBaba has a rep for stealing photos AND having sellers who offer cheaper knock-offs of trendy items originally designed and made by someone else. I don’t consider AliBaba to be a convincing proof that someone is reselling without supporting evidence from another source. Another source in the case of simple assembled jewelry might be the Etsy seller listing the same items on Ebay, and not claiming on Ebay that the item was made by them — like new in package, not artisan jewelry.

  37. Sammy July 28, 2011 at 11:48 am #

    Yep, I think TBB touched a nerve. Besides, her comment on the treasury said absolutely nothing defamatory, nor even rude. It’s not somehow fundamentally wrong to assemble a whole bunch of the same items into one treasury. If certain (guilty) parties are reading something into it, that’s their own conscience speaking. T’would be smarter for them to keep their head down and move about their business with their apparently Etsy-legal activities.

  38. TootieSkates July 28, 2011 at 4:10 pm #

    Well said Sammy.

  39. ohmeohmy July 31, 2011 at 12:57 am #

    Wow,

    Those necklaces are made with commercial charms. They are assembled. There has to be a clasp in the back to put them on, so they are cutting the chain too and making the necklaces.

    The chains look different in each photo, TBB so it appears they are not from alibaba. And you have called out a lot of legit sellers. Not cool at all.

    I find that treasury to be inflammatory. It’s calling out a whole group of legit etsy sellers. Assemblage is allowed.

    Alibaba is known for trolling sites to see what’s trending, then stealing pics. Many pics are watermarked. Because it’s a Chinese site, there is no regulation for copyright infringement.

  40. kitten July 31, 2011 at 2:11 pm #

    Sammy said:

    Yep, I think TBB touched a nerve. Besides, her comment on the treasury said absolutely nothing defamatory, nor even rude. It’s not somehow fundamentally wrong to assemble a whole bunch of the same items into one treasury. If certain (guilty) parties are reading something into it, that’s their own conscience speaking. T’would be smarter for them to keep their head down and move about their business with their apparently Etsy-legal activities.
    __________________________________________________

    Oh Bullshit. There is nothing to read into it, it wasn’t done as a compliment. I don’t sell jewelry, I don’t have a guilty conscience, the treasury was made to call out other sellers.

    TheBargainBabe is hardly original herself, she copied the EXACT treasury from someone else. Read a thread on Etsy calling out TheBargainBabe for copying someone else’s treasury. Karma I guess, lol.

    Oh and I don’t sell jewelry, I don’t have a guilt conscience

  41. kitten July 31, 2011 at 2:12 pm #

    Scratch that last line. 😦

  42. TheBargainBabe August 2, 2011 at 6:49 am #

    FWIW I hadn’t seen the other seller’s bird/lariat treasury. I guess it got pulled before I made mine. But mine is gone now too so I guess none of it really matters.

  43. TheBargainBabe August 2, 2011 at 6:50 am #

    Anyone have a link to the discussion thread about me? I hadn’t seen it.

  44. kitten August 3, 2011 at 9:50 pm #

    You hadn’t seen the other treasury, you just happened to make the same exact one right after the other person. I totally believe you! o_O

  45. muffy August 5, 2011 at 7:58 pm #

    Pixie is harassing a few members of the etsy community blaming them for posting bullshit about her. She is threatening everyone with getting their info and calling the police on them LMAO
    Crazy reselling wench.

  46. Pixie August 6, 2011 at 7:12 am #

    I am a PixieMarket. Why I cannot leave a comment here?

  47. Pixie August 6, 2011 at 7:13 am #

    Okay.
    Here I am, ex Pixie. I was finally directed here. Who exactly I am harassing? I started a topic on Etsy forum and was torn to the little pieces for using Disney character. Muffy, is your name also Christa http://www.etsy.com/people/GeeYouSmellGood ?
    http://www.etsy.com/teams/7792/soap-makers-and-soap-lovers/discuss/8600074/
    (this lady wrote to me yesterday night with the same LMAO and she obviously has a reason to hide her personality).
    The pictures are mine. I will picture the empty box, the branch from Wal-Mart, the piece of paper from the Michaels and include it in the listing together with a disclaimer pointing to Alibaba. It is just as much as I can do. The different pictures in the listings are all taking by me! I am trying to get better! I am picturing my shells too and I am not a professional photographer.

  48. Pixie August 6, 2011 at 7:20 am #

    I think that what sells on Alibaba doesn’t really exist. You should register as a “buyer” or a “supplier” when you go there I I went there to complain).
    Alibaba is a scam registerd on Caymans Islands.
    I sent him a Notice of Copyright infringement
    “The copyrighted work at issue iare the pictures that appears on:
    http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/404565633/Matte_silver_Rainy_Cloud_post_earrings.html
    http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/404443003/Matte_silver_Origami_Crane_earrings.html
    http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/404597087/Matte_gold_little_bird_earrings_on.html

    You can reach me at wherespixie@gmail.com for further information and clarification
    I swear, under penalty of perjury that the information in the notification is accurate and I am the copyright owner of an exclusive right that allegedly infringed.”

    He sent me fail a complaint in China and it closes the circle.

  49. Pixie August 6, 2011 at 7:28 am #

    I think that what sells on Alibaba doesn’t really exist. You should register as a “buyer” or a “supplier” when you go there I I went there to complain).
    Alibaba is a scam registerd on Caymans Islands.
    I sent him (the owner) a Notice of Copyright infringement.
    He avised me to fail a complaint in China. It closes the circle.
    As for the owner of this blog it would be decent let people know that she (he)is going after them, so they can protect themselves.

  50. Pixie August 6, 2011 at 7:46 am #

    Please, accept my apologies for posting in pieces. Large piece didn’t go through. There is no guarantee that the blogger will let me through also.
    I take my own photos, every one. I’m working hard to get better. If you think they look professional, thank you.
    I make my own items. I do not buy from Alibaba and resell. I do buy the chain, charms, clasps etc. and make the item.
    I can also do wirewrapping and seedbead weaving. You can see it on ealy sales. Saling and creating are to different very time consuming businesses and could be successfully run by one person. I learned to sell what people want to buy not what I want to sell. I want to get paid.
    I had a Disney Tinkerbell on my banner. It is gone. My husband still thinks that I am that Pixie. And yes, I can burn a hole in the leaf, when I am upset.
    Thank you and have a wonderful life.

  51. Jill August 6, 2011 at 11:43 am #

    It’s a shame that so many people are willing to believe the worst about people. Pixie has said that she makes her jewelry,and that she has purchased many of the charms and supplies from Etsy sellers. She has described making her light box for photos. I’m sure she didn’t mean anything malicious or dishonest in using her avatar picture. And she changed it when she was told it was wrong to use it. We are all learning about things online, and have all made mistakes. Give her a chance to learn also.

    I have known other people who have had their photos stolen. One of these people makes very intricate bead woven jewelry. Lots of other things on Etsy would be easy to copy by someone who knew how–soaps, candles, pottery, clothing, food. And look at all the great pictures to steal!

    Pixie voiced an honest concern on the Etsy forum. And she was immediately jumped on because of her avatar and banner. A few people did have suggestions regarding water marks, but I’m amazed at how quickly the hate took over. I’m very disappointed.

  52. PussDaddY August 6, 2011 at 9:04 pm #

    I think alibaba is a bunch of bullshit and a scam too. Has anyone from Etsy actually ever bought anything there by chance?

  53. Pixie August 7, 2011 at 6:08 pm #

    Thank you, Jill.
    I put in the listing for everyone interested how the pictures were taken in my handmade paper light box:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/65679670/origami-crane-earrings-in-silver
    As for Alibaba they are intermediates. When they stole my pictures there were no suppliers. Now all the Chinese started to show up:
    http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/404443003/Matte_silver_Origami_Crane_earrings.html
    BTW, these earrings are not too easy to put together and holes in the cranes are different from different Korean suppliers.
    I am tired of this. Little people here are eating each other an Mr. Timothy Alexander Steinert
    Alibaba Group Holding Limited
    Fourth Floor, One Capital Place P.O. Box 847
    George Town Grand Cayman KY1-1103
    dnsadmin@hk.alibaba-inc.com +852.22155100
    is sitting on Caymans waiting for the money to show up. I found him on Whois.com

  54. etsyresellers August 8, 2011 at 7:03 am #

    Pixie. Alibaba DOES indeed exist LMAO What a dumb assumption.
    I have bought fabric from there.

  55. PussDaddy August 8, 2011 at 5:50 pm #

    Why would any Etsian shop there considering they rip off so many Etsian’s pics and ideas and patterns, etc.?

  56. Pixie August 9, 2011 at 8:43 am #

    Estsyreseller,

    I did not say that Alibaba does not exist. I just said that their pictures are originally mine. I said that the items did not exist. Now they will be provided from probably 10 Chinese suppliers. Alibaba cannot provide their own pictures because they are not making anything!
    Your LMAO sounds very familiar.

  57. Dawn Garnheim August 10, 2011 at 11:37 pm #

    Sellers on Alibaba are notorious for stealing photos from etsy sellers. Now Pixie has posted her photos we can clearly see that she is the victim here.

    I did notice something else that speaks in her favor, before she posted the photos. In her listing she writes that the earhooks are 925 sterling silver – on her photo you can clearly see the silver stamp. But yet on Alibaba they write that the earring are alloy. Why in that case would the ones in ‘their’ photo be stamped with the silver mark?

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