BrisNanaJoy

17 Sep

I have a great one for items listed as vintage that are all clearly upcycled (she describes what she has done in her description to upcycle them) Even worse one of her listings is on the FP right now. I don’t believe this is a mistake with not knowing the rules because she has other listings that are in the handmade categories that are also upcycled vintage. She’s playing the odds here to get the best views.

BrisNanaJoy – A joke of a vintage seller.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/81674340/paint-brass-candlesticks
http://www.etsy.com/listing/81601721/mid-century-furniture-bookshelf
http://www.etsy.com/listing/81687470/small-upcycled-painted-tray
http://www.etsy.com/listing/81687886/upcycled-painted-silverplated-tray
http://www.etsy.com/listing/78065922/painted-candlestick-or-candleabra

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24 Responses to “BrisNanaJoy”

  1. Life During Wartime September 17, 2011 at 9:34 am #

    I am going to call out the vintage Team she belongs to, Vintage Etsy Society Street Team.
    Here is their link:
    http://www.etsy.com/teams/6269/vintage-etsy-society-street-team

    According to the Team requirements for joining, members can sell altered vintage items. Apparently, they can sell altered vintage, and list it in the Vintage category. BrisNanaJoy was called out on Garagetsy many months ago, and she has been listing her altered items as vintage ever since she opened. She has been reported, and Etsy ignored it.

  2. Discord Threads September 17, 2011 at 9:57 am #

    So if it is vintage, and you upcycle it, then it isn’t vintage anymore??? Or are you upset, because since she upcycled it there’s no way to know if it really was vintage? I sew, so I don’t know the rules about vintage, so I don’t understand what is wrong with what/how this seller is selling?

  3. Life During Wartime September 17, 2011 at 10:24 am #

    No one gets upset about altering used/vintage stuff. The items belong to the seller, and she can do with them as she pleases. It no longer matters what the items were before painting. The Etsy rules (Dos and Don’ts) say altered vintage is Handmade, and that is how it should be listed. This seller is misusing the vintage category in her listings for altered items — by Etsy’s rules, not what people post here on ECO. We don’t make the rules for Etsy.

    In the world outside of Etsy, people understand ‘vintage’ to be an older item (minimum age varies, on Etsy it is 20 years) found — and sold — the way it was originally made. The original makers of these items did not choose to paint them, and vintage brass is worth more without the paint. Altering an item in a way that decreases its value is not upcycling, by the way.

  4. Life During Wartime September 17, 2011 at 1:51 pm #

    I think this shop has been called out before? Anyway, they were on the FP today.
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/miadressshop

    All the items are listed as handmade by the seller. And wow! what a set of skills this person has to make so many different types of garments and sell them so cheaply. I am not a clothing expert, but this looks like thrift shop, HK style. I see a lot of late 90s looks and newer.

  5. Life During Wartime September 17, 2011 at 2:13 pm #

    The BEST example of handmade skills from miadressshop:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/81100180/marie-antoinette-elegance-floral

    And the tags! This girl has to win an award for sheer nerve.

  6. Trista September 17, 2011 at 5:31 pm #

    I was browsing through miadressshop this morning whenever they were featured on the FP and knew it was sweatshop junk right away. And yeah, I also noticed the completely ridiculous tag stuffing and things unrelated to the items. Every single dress I clicked on was tagged “alice in wonderland” among others.

  7. Life During Wartime September 17, 2011 at 9:27 pm #

    snowqueen, I saw imaginestudio on the FP last week, and thought she was due for a follow up callout!

    Trista, I can’t figure out how Etsy can put shops on the FP without realizing some of them clearly are not what they say they are. The staff needs to sit and watch all the seasons of Project Runway in a marathon session. Then have another look at miadressshop. One person did not design and make all those clothes.

  8. Discord Threads September 18, 2011 at 4:54 am #

    Trista, I can’t figure out how Etsy can put shops on the FP without realizing some of them clearly are not what they say they are.

    ETSY doesn’t give a crap.
    They ‘pretend’ to care, but all they care about is more clicks, renewing and MONEY!

  9. Life During Wartime September 18, 2011 at 10:42 am #

    I don’t see all that much pretending on Etsy’s part, Discord Threads. By having the staff repeat practices that reward violators with free promotion in features, the message I get from Etsy corporate is IDGAF.

  10. Life During Wartime September 18, 2011 at 4:56 pm #

    The shop in the callout post BrisNanaJoy has fixed her categories!. She rocks. I wish her many sales.

  11. Life During Wartime September 18, 2011 at 6:53 pm #

    Found this shop in the Forums:
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/houseoftoons

    full of collectible (that means vintage) animation drawings, all listed as Handmade Art. If Etsy was checking the site for ‘disney’ tags, they would have found this seller and mentored them about the difference between handmade by you and handmade by someone else, and how to list vintage on Etsy.

  12. TootieSkates September 19, 2011 at 3:12 am #

    Another mistagger:

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/82087964/french-vintage-style-bridesmaid-dresses?ref=pr_shop

    These are brand new dresses and should not be listed in vintage.

  13. still looking for HONEST Handmade Crafts Seller site September 20, 2011 at 10:01 am #

    lol at the ren & stimpy being vintage because it just had it’s 20th birthday august 11, 1991. The show did, not sure about this cell though…

  14. esther September 20, 2011 at 12:33 pm #

    Shops like BrisNanaJoy just seem like small potatoes when you consider blatant “vintage” TOU offenders like this:

    http://www.etsy.com/people/dustylorraine

    Items in their shop like this one:

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/81761638/brass-compass-sun-dial-solar-time-piece

    have sold numerous times in their shop, and interestingly enough, on Ali Baba!

    http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/121023894/5_SOLID_BRASS_SUNDIAL_Sun_Dial.html

    Why can’t Etsy admin do anything about shops like this?

  15. Regan September 20, 2011 at 4:50 pm #

    Get a life, people. Maybe instead of being an ass and calling people out you could just send a convo to this seller to let her know what she is doing is wrong and that her item should just be listed as “handmade”. Etsy has a lot of Do’s and Don’ts and for new sellers, or for the very part-time sellers, it can be overwhelming to keep up. As a new seller, the most exciting thing to do is open the online doors to your beautiful new store. It’s hard enough to figure out the process of opening a store, listing an item, etc., but to have to figure out if things are vintage vs. handmade… well that may have been overlooked. I have been on Etsy since 2006 and I am sure that there are still things that I am doing wrong in my shop. I would hope someone would have the decency to send me a friendly convo about it instead of calling me out on their blog.

  16. PussDaddy September 20, 2011 at 8:54 pm #

    Pertaining to ImagineStudio-pretty soon it will be ok to take someone else’s artwork and piss on it and call it your own.

  17. QueefLatina September 21, 2011 at 5:03 am #

    Regan, if you had actually read the Dos and Don’ts, you would know that sending unsolicited convos is a violation of said rules. Shops have been shut down for it.

  18. Life During Wartime September 21, 2011 at 8:40 pm #

    How could anyone have the skills to either 1) market their own handmade work or 2) know enough about vintage to sell it to the public if they don’t know whether their merchandise was handmade-altered-assembled by them, or not? The listing form question ‘who made it’ is like first grade reading level. No one selling on Etsy is so mentally ‘challenged’ that the question is difficult to answer.

  19. Regan September 21, 2011 at 9:00 pm #

    In may of 2011 those questions weren’t around. And most Etsy sellers are creative, right brained people who may have trouble sitting though an hour of “rule” reading!

    And I think Etsy is just trying to eliminate spam in regards to the unsolicited emails. I think you’d be fine if you sent a message… Do all of you have shops of your own?

  20. Life During Wartime September 22, 2011 at 9:47 am #

    Regan, the dos and don’ts are common sense, not the lawyer-speak on the papers you sign to buy a house with a mortgage! No one should be selling online if they don’t know whether they made the items they are listing for sale, or not. Because if they have suffered some terrible brain injury very young that interferes with short term memory, they won’t be able to process sales, either.

    The significant thing about the differences between left and right brain thinking is that it is…thinking. Not a complete lack of thought and a celebration of being an airhead.

  21. Marky September 27, 2011 at 1:55 pm #

    “Vintage” t-shirts from 2009:

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/82431804/bernard-fowler-rolling-stones-tour-t

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/82432060/tshirt-from-claremont-folk-music-center

    Can anyone find a more recent “vintage” item that actually admits to its age?

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