10 Dec

Just found Fashionland!

deer ring


Peace ring


49 Responses to “fashionland”

  1. Life During Wartime December 10, 2011 at 12:31 pm #

    Here is the black and gold adjustable mustache ring for sale on a blog, same photo as fashionland:

  2. Life During Wartime December 10, 2011 at 12:37 pm #

    Here is the photo on AliExpress:

  3. Life During Wartime December 10, 2011 at 12:57 pm #

    Here is the About page for the manufacturer of the mustache ring, Dongyang Chway Jewelry. The other wholesalers selling these items on DHGate, AliExpress, and AliBaba, get their merchandise frrom Chway. Chway has over 1000 employees!
    I got their name from the link in my comment above, and googled them.
    More comments and links to follow.

  4. Life During Wartime December 10, 2011 at 1:21 pm #

    This is a link to one selection from Dongyang Chway’s small orders store on Ali, under watches. If you click the Jewelry, Watch link at the top of this page, most of the reseller watches are there: the owls, Audrey Hepburn, steampunk, antique and vintage style — a huge selection!
    But notice on this page of owl pendant watches how the resellers are getting away with selling these on Etsy:
    Page down and it looks like Chway supplies the chains and batteries separately, so the reseller shop owners may have to assemble and repackage the watches before mailing. Not what Etsy intended as simple assembly because the seller does not choose a chain to match the watch. This looks like it could be the magic loophole for resellers.

  5. Life During Wartime December 10, 2011 at 2:18 pm #

    This pocket watch from fashionland:
    is here on AliExpress:
    Compare fashionland’s second photo to the identical one on this page.

  6. Life During Wartime December 10, 2011 at 2:23 pm #

    Watch section in fashionland’s shop:
    The bird cage watches are here:
    Note that the photos from the Ali store are not identical, but from the same photo shoot. This is better proof than an identical photo…because Ali stores cannot steal photos from Etsy sellers that are not shown on Etsy! Fashionland is using photos from the manufacturer.

  7. Life During Wartime December 10, 2011 at 2:25 pm #

    I hope ECO moderates my comments quickly. Fashionland sold a bunch of items today. Let’s get this one shut down fast!

  8. sickofcupcakes December 10, 2011 at 5:13 pm #

    People who are buying crap like this can’t possibly think it’s handmade. Unbelievable.

  9. lolive December 10, 2011 at 6:40 pm #

    Check out this seller’s feedback!

  10. Life During Wartime December 10, 2011 at 8:07 pm #

    sickofcupcakes, that is why I am trying to document the actual manufacturers of this reseller jewelry. Better, I think, than just proving that other sellers on line have the same exact pieces, be it on Ebay, the Ali sites, or some other online merchant. Yesterday I saw a jewelry mass manufacturer’s photo in the taste test, the part where you choose the items first to determine your taste. These items are supposedly curated by Etsy. I was shocked and disappointed! The photo was from the ‘booze bottles’ shoot for the chained rhinestone deer head bracelet.

  11. heather December 11, 2011 at 12:57 am #

    I reported this shop on thursday with links to some of their items on alibaba and also links to all the shops that are selling exact same items as them so clearly not made by THEM!! So here it is 2 days later and they are still in full force making sales……………..sooo ridiculous!!!

  12. heather December 11, 2011 at 1:04 am #

    here is a reseller…entire shop is wholesale mass produced items!!

  13. heather December 11, 2011 at 1:06 am #

    here is another…. most of the shop is mass produced items there are a fes items a flower has been added or a bead to the charm

  14. heather December 11, 2011 at 1:12 am #

    and another…… only open since August and already 3582 sale!!! thats a average of 71 sales a day!!!! holey cow moley!!

    they are a mix of hand assembled and wholesale mass produced!

  15. heather December 11, 2011 at 1:13 am #

    and here is another……they are idiots when it comes to tagging, probably why they have not sold very much!!

  16. heather December 11, 2011 at 1:19 am #

    here is a really great one…..they only opened up 5 days ago ( on the 6th) and already have 1702 sales!!!! holey cow moley they must have borrowed santas elves to get that many things made and shipped, I mean thats 340 items a day for one person to lovingly have made, packaged, and shipped??? I think not!!

  17. heather December 11, 2011 at 1:27 am #

    this one is disgusting…….they have been allowed to stay for 14 months!!! sold 10,408 items thats an average of 743 a month, 185 a week!!! wow Im pretty sure even if you worked 24 hours a day it would be impossible to handmake 185 items a week!!

  18. heather December 11, 2011 at 1:29 am #

    and yet another….this one has only been open a little over a month and yet etsy has done notheing!! every item a mass produced wholesale item, selling the same china made crap all the others are selling……the EXACT same items!!

  19. heather December 11, 2011 at 1:31 am #

    and yet another one……almost every single item a mass produced wholesale item

  20. heather December 11, 2011 at 1:32 am #

    heres one that opened just 2 days ago!!!

  21. heather December 11, 2011 at 1:36 am #

    Oh wait and one more………only open a month and already 150 sales, every single item is a mass produced wholessale item!!

  22. heather December 11, 2011 at 1:39 am #

    this one has only been open 10 days……every item a mass produced wholesale item!!

    I really don’t understand how ETSY can ignore this??? even if they didn’t search outside etsy site they would easily be able to see that all of these shops are selling the exact same items and it would be impossible for them to all have the exact same items if they were being hand made…..this is easy thinking right???

  23. heather December 11, 2011 at 1:43 am #

    and we can’t forget these guys…..

    a mix of easily identifyable wholessale items and then a mix of who knows ( harder to track down) still selling all the same items the others are and they have been sneaking through the crack for almost a year!!

  24. heather December 11, 2011 at 2:27 am # open only a month only open 9 days ago only open 2 days this one has been up for 7 months and nothing from etsy…ugh!! only up for 6 mo and over 1600 sales!! this one has only been up 10 days, every single item is a mass produced wholesale item!! open for 2 months, all the items are mass produced!!

    ok thats enough for now Im off to bed:-) looks like we need a flagging party!!! these are all so blatant and disgusting and etsy only seems to care when you all make a big deal out of it so hopefully if enough people send a report they might do something about it…wishful thinking I suppose!!

  25. heather December 11, 2011 at 2:28 am #

    wait there were 2 more I missed:-)

  26. luisamila December 11, 2011 at 3:08 am #

    Great information. Working, flagging and enjoying it! Thanks for the gift, Heather.

  27. DonCholodecki December 11, 2011 at 8:46 am #

    Another clueless vintage seller:

  28. heather December 11, 2011 at 9:21 am #

    vintage is sooooo dang hard!!! I know jewelry and alot about wholesale, because I buy alot of whole sale items and often these charms and necklaces and then tear them apart and alter them to make them my own, I don’t even bother selling them on etsy because who wants to sell their actually handmade items for 3.99 my hour of time is worth more than 3.99!! most people making jewejry are buying a chain and puting charms and beads and clasps etc to make a piece whats total b.s. is to buy a necklace for .60 cents 1000 at a time and sell them as is on etsy!!

  29. BOOSHWAH December 11, 2011 at 4:10 pm #

    fashionland’s Shop Announcement

    According to shipping situation of this period,We donnot guarantee that you receive your parcel before Christmas. As christmas is coming soon , the post office is very crazy at present.”

    yep, it’s rough to ship overseas. Hard times for sellers and buyers a garbagey crap.

  30. BOOSHWAH December 11, 2011 at 4:13 pm #

    Don’t you love to quote?

    The Woodlands, Clear Lake, Austin, San Antonio, San Diego, Salt Lake City,Dallas, Houston, New York, Chicago, Seattle, Los Angeles, Phoenix, San Diego, Ft. Worth, Calgary, Sydney, New York City, San Francisco

    In other words, all over the #$@#$ place.

  31. sickofcupcakes December 11, 2011 at 7:08 pm #

    I think I shall go vomit.

  32. DonCholodecki December 12, 2011 at 4:26 am #

    Hey, finally something handmade!

  33. susan December 12, 2011 at 11:36 am #

    Heather deserves an award for sleuthing!! How about an octopus trophy? I also noticed that you posted your comments on all of those shops about five minutes apart? If I decide to go looking for resellers, that’s about how long it takes to search, especially for jewelry sellers.

    I am absolutely positive that someone from Etsy reads this blog daily. They’d be stupid not to. But, I think that LifeDuringWartime has found the (elegant retro-chic vintage) key to the whole jewelry charm on chain importers. If that wholesaler provides a photo of a finished product but the actual product has to be put together, like simply enough as THREADING the charm on the chain, then it is indeed Etsy legal.

    It looks as stupid as hell though.

  34. heather December 12, 2011 at 12:56 pm #

    thanks:-)…blushes I’d take a octopus award…hehehe I just keep notes as Im looking around, or shopping, or searching things and then later might look into it further. I actually have about 20 more that are a mix of 1/2 mass produced wholesale items and 1/2 handmade or less identifyable as mass produced I need to send a email and let you guys dig more, I would never want to call someone out and be wrong so I only say something when Iam positive!!

    the wholesalers may be switching to that way of doing things ( showing them seperate) but most of the items are being sold on etsy exactly as they come, on the chain!!

    whats really bad is that a whole bunch of new ones have poped up and if etsy would just knowck them down right away they are more likely to just go away, the ones that have been here forever are a whole nother story……off to look for more mass produced wholesale items on the best handmade site ever!!!!!

  35. Life During Wartime December 12, 2011 at 1:22 pm #

    I just checked the dos and don’ts, and found this under Handmade:

    ◦To be considered handmade, the seller must substantially alter the design of an item produced from a “ready to assemble” kit.

    If the jewelry manufacturer or distributor in China supplies these Chinese sellers with the watches, the chains, and the batteries, that is NOT altering the design at all, let alone ‘substantially”. If some Etsy employee has made the decision to allow these Chinese shops to sell the watches, lockets, and charms on chains as hand-assembled, the situation of putting together 2 or 3 pieces exactly as supplied by the manufacturer is NOT allowed.

  36. Life During Wartime December 12, 2011 at 1:29 pm #

    For many items called out by Heather and others, the assembled piece of jewelry in multiple Etsy shops, in listings from multiple sellers on Ebay, iOffer, Bonanza, Art Fire, and other single seller webstores show the same charm or watch or locket with the exact same chain — same length, same metal finish. I don’t think you have to be Sherlock Holmes to deduce there has been no substantial alteration here.

  37. Life During Wartime December 12, 2011 at 2:07 pm #

    Here are the newly listed mustache rings in fashionland’s shop on AliExpress, same photos all:

    This is a disgrace, Etsy. Shame shame shame! There is no assembly or alteration for these rings. They are a single cast piece.

  38. heather December 12, 2011 at 7:57 pm #

    I sell craft shows throughout the year ( not on etsy) and I have ordered in several of the styles that are hot from aliexpress paying less then a dollar and they come exactly the way they are selling them, its so irritating!!

    I actually quoted that statement about significantly altering items when I sent a huge email to the integrity team, included like 25 resellers with their whole shops full of mass produced items and links to multiple places to buy it wholes sale and included other venues they were selling at too and I didn’t even get a response from etsy, a thank you a F off nothing!!! that was my reality check and then someone who had saw my reseller treasuries sent me a link here……Id rather spend my time here:-)

  39. Gail December 12, 2011 at 10:28 pm #

    I don,t really have anything to add to this discussion except that I sell vintage and I hate that this crap goes on. I just needed to jump on this bandwagon, so I had to fill in the comment box in order to get on the email list.
    Now I shall take myself back to Etsyland and start reporting naughty re-sellers. actually, a few weeks a whole pack of us from a thread went out and tagged stores in the handbag and purses section of handmade and they did get shut down quickly. I’m sure they’ve popped back up like mildew and algea and mold, but we did make a big stink about it for a few days, and it got Admins attention!
    Aren’t you glad that I didn’t “have any thing to add to the discussion”? Rotfl!!

  40. heather December 12, 2011 at 10:52 pm #

    hey gail, there are 5 handbag sellers that sell knock off stuff they come almost every night and there are 8 or 9 of the korean/chinese clothing sellers, mainly in jackets and coats is the easiest to find them and they are selling thousands of coats, flag every day and they are back up and they only take down the new ones ….its sooo frustrating, its like if a shop doesn’t get a 100 flags then they ignore us. But if a whole bunch of people jump on one then they finally have to do something!!

  41. heather December 12, 2011 at 11:15 pm #

    fashion land and the other 21 resellers have made exactly 1700 sales in just 3 days!!!!!!!!


  42. BOOSHWAH December 13, 2011 at 6:41 am #

    Somehow I think those big sales are shills.

  43. heather December 13, 2011 at 11:38 am #

    if you are a shop that has been open for months and months or even over a year wouldn’t you have to pay for those then?? that could add up one of the older shops had 359 sales in 3 days average 4.00 a item and then the .20 cent listing fee that 60-70 dollars that would seem stupid to pay what is probably their profit margin?? I don’t get it

  44. Life During Wartime December 13, 2011 at 12:19 pm #

    Some of the sales may be shill buys. If the shop owners are employees of cheap jewelry manufacturers or distributors in China, their employer will pay the Etsy fees. The point of shilling would be trying to appear popular and trendy, which works for the target market for this jewelry. Etsy has been more tolerant of the Chinese jewelry resellers this year than they were in past years. Now almost none of them are shut down. The fact that cheap facotry jewelry photos from Ali Baba are now in the Taste Test and have been on the front page in treasuries speaks volumes.

  45. susan December 13, 2011 at 1:19 pm #

    Shininggift has sold 72 items today. At $3.99 per item (lowest priced item) That’s $287 a day.
    72 listing fees @ .20 is $14.40,
    Etsy transaction fees at 3.5% = $10.04 .

    Paypal is going to take 3.5% another $10.04
    plus .30 per transaction = 21.60

    (I’m taking off the etsy fees although they’re paid monthly)

    Net sale after fees = $230.92 PER DAY !!

    The buyer pays shipping so that is cost negative. If indeed the items are wholesale less than a dollar, sure, take $72.00 off that sum and it’s still $158.92 PROFIT PER DAY!! That’s $50,000 a year in liquid American currency

    I don’t believe the amount of buyers and the whole set up stinks.

  46. Life During Wartime December 13, 2011 at 1:54 pm #

    Susan, I agree that this stinks, big time! Almost all of the items in the shops called out by Heather are not altered in any way by the seller. At the very most, the seller is stringing a pendant on the chain from the supplier and maybe popping a battery into a watch pendant. By Etsy’s stated rules, this is NOT handmade! For cast rings that are one single piece of metal, there is no assembly of any kind. What is listed in the reseller shops is what was manufactured — no dangles, no embellishments, nothing. Etsy is intentionally keeping these resellers open, and I want to know why?

  47. heather December 13, 2011 at 7:16 pm #

    I think Etsy is about to become a “different” kind of marketplace, one where they will be able to be here and that is why they are allowed to stay!

  48. shaunb December 17, 2011 at 4:35 pm #

    When you need to find a specific item for a certain event, you will find that when you can purchase the items at a lower cost that you will not be as worried about using it in the future. Saving money on an item that you might need will be not only easier on your budget but also easier on your conscious as well. Some people might not purchase an item simply due to the fact that it will only be used once.

  49. Life During Wartime December 17, 2011 at 6:58 pm #

    What kind of event calls for factory made jewelry imported from China, selling at prices starting at 21 cents on Etsy? The annual car wash to raise funds for cheerleading camp? Something that won’t be distracting people from the bikini top you’re wearing? And when the jump rings separate, and drop the watch in the soapy water bucket, you won’t care because of the price?

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