16 Dec

Xiaolizi has been called out before on ECO a year ago


Xiaolizi is YanHuaTang on Dawanda site. http://en.dawanda.com/shop/yanhuatang

Which is Yanhua Tang on Taobao

Which sells this skirt http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=110-B0N-213zD.3wvD-1nBHS.3-4OGP_O&id=7881227857&
translated page http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?spm=110-B0N-213zD.3wvI-1nBHZ.s-41sTOA&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.ca&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://item.taobao.com/item.htm%3Fid%3D7881227857%26spm%3D110-B0N-213zD.3wvI-1nBHZ.s-41sTOA&usg=ALkJrhjFrXttF9AEF9NARD3dGcya5QmsGQ

of which 327 were sold (if my mandarin guesses are correct, it isn’t translating out well) in the past month at 198 yuan, about $32 USD

Their own website: http://yanhuatang.com/

Which looks an awful lot like this skirt on Etsy http://www.etsy.com/listing/47125638/black-linen-knee-long-skirt for $59 USD


12 Responses to “xiaolizi”

  1. Life During Wartime December 16, 2011 at 2:17 pm #

    According to the shop announcement, two people are doing all the sewing for this shop. Might be possible if their Etsy sales were the whole of their business. But it looks like they sell a lot of pieces elsewhere, too. Looks to me like a classic Etsy coaching job to keep a small factory shop open.

  2. susan December 16, 2011 at 6:16 pm #

    I’ve spent some time on Etsy in the past week and have, through reading forum posts, that indeed a small factory shop has been accepted as a collective. All of these small family “collectives” are located overseas where it is appropriate to have the entire extended family get product out the door. I don’t think we get the entire picture of exactly how big the extended family is but it’s collectively enough to suit Etsy rules. Which is why this is a good callout, but one that Etsy will not, and has never closed. If I could have 35 people of my family work in my “collective” I could turn out heck of a lot of pieces a year.

    This is a huge door that Etsy has opened. They’ve not clarified how many people are too many, and if they did, they would coach the shop around it anyway. I wonder if they ask if the shop meets local labor laws, or has ethical production methods.

  3. Life During Wartime December 16, 2011 at 8:12 pm #

    If Etsy allows this shop as a collective, why claim that the sewing is being done by two people? That is just opening the door so a pile of reports can flood into Etsy. Since Etsy probably coached them to write the little story about a family business, they should have made it just a bit more realistic!

  4. Gail Pettit December 17, 2011 at 3:48 pm #

    Don’t we all introduce all of our family members and associates in our profiles. NO, but I see these types of shops have the exact same kind of profile. So freakin phony it turns my stomach! I think someone from Etsy needs to take some of their record-breaking earnings and take a little trip to the far East and visit some of these happy “families”!

  5. Not So Happy December 18, 2011 at 11:44 am #

    Does anyone remember when there was a big call out on the China clothing sellers? This shop used an image that another shop was also using (along with several others that also made the same mistakes over time) and when they were called out – just ‘magically’ the images disappeared from all but one shop.

    Same thing continues to happen. I have just been too tired to document much of it. One interesting thing to note is that Lwang and theSimpson were shut down for a while, Lwang is now gone, but theSimpson reopened.

    Not sure what happened, but I had sent a letter to the REAL L.Wang store and inquired about their etsy shop and when would they be adding their latest line in the Etsy shop. So LWang is closed and theSimpson has changed their “logo”.

    Another thing to keep in mind – most of these shops also have stores on dawanda and artfire (some under different names) and a few of them even have their own websites or sell in other places. When you start adding up the number of sales per day, that is when you realize there is NO WAY these shops could possibly make that many garments daily even with the number employees they do have listed.

    I don’t understand how Etsy cannot figure this out.

    Crap, look at idea2lifestyle – add up the sales in all of their shops and there is still no way they can produce that much and how funny that the same model is used in other shops that open up on etsy. I understand with the really simple designs that the seller may be using stolen images and it may be a small group of people opening a shop and just making knock off products (you can usually tell by the feedback – the received product isn’t like the photo, etc…) this adds confusion to the buyer, but why not just tell these people if you want to sell you need to come up with your own photos?

    AND Etsy needs to set a limit as to how many people constitute a “collective” as it stands now there is nothing that says you can’t have 20 people working together. Which we all know would be a small factory.

  6. Not So Happy December 18, 2011 at 11:48 am #

    sorry I repeated some of the same info as the OP…

  7. GRRRRR December 18, 2011 at 12:34 pm #

    You know with a feedback of 96% you would think etsy would start doing something about bad feedback as well. Ebay does, sellers are getting kicked off ebay for bad feedback

  8. runamuck December 18, 2011 at 3:10 pm #

    Is there anywhere on this site to submit etsy resellers for a “feature”. I have reported this person multiple times over the last year. They are still selling (over 600 sales) only 21 people left feedback. (typical brass plated made in china garbage)

  9. Life During Wartime December 19, 2011 at 11:25 am #

    MyTeenageDream looks like it may be at least part reseller. All the listings in the bracelets section are sold as made by the manufacturer. A bunch of the pendants have no additional charms or embellishements, and they too are obvious reseller goods. Many of the items have been altered or embellished, though, and this is probably keeping the shop open.

    I am working on a list of all the resellers of Chinese jewelry on Etsy, shipping from where ever. I will send it to ECO when I think I’ve got most of them That way, readers can flat at will and maybe we can get a bunch of these shops closed.

  10. Joaq December 19, 2011 at 11:43 am #


    Please check your email, I sent you an email with proves about an etsy shop that is in the true a Chinese manufacture with a profit of 1 million dollars per year.

    Thank you!

  11. JunkEEE December 19, 2011 at 3:20 pm #

    Can;t wait to see it. But then, it will be all the same shit anyway.

  12. etsycallout December 19, 2011 at 8:56 pm #

    Haven’t received an email. Please resend.

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