Elysian Organics copying again?

23 Dec

Wow, actually Elysian Organics is copying MY ( HerbivoreBotanicals ) listings.

Every time I come up with a new listing…there they are right on my trail…

Case in point…earlier this month I created this product and listing:

http://www.etsy.com/transaction/67110441

Today I logged on to find this:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/89111791/6-mens-organic-vegan-soap-samples-2-oz

For Christmas I posted these items:

http://www.etsy.com/transaction/66854138

http://www.etsy.com/transaction/66761609

http://www.etsy.com/transaction/63464358

and within a week or so Elysian posts these:

http://www.etsy.com/transaction/63844488

http://www.etsy.com/transaction/63788866

I believe Elysian Organics is not even organic and may be reselling soaps. I have no proof of either one but do know they are immature, aggressive and copy my listings relentlessly…

I will continue to post on here whenever they directly copy an item of mine, just so you can all be up to date! : )

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27 Responses to “Elysian Organics copying again?”

  1. Dee December 23, 2011 at 9:58 am #

    Well yeah. Christine doesn’t really have any original ideas of her own. Her whole shop is a copy of someone else’s work. Nothing new there. And she may be responding to this call out before the day is out.

    Remember “sit and spin” !!! LOL!

  2. Kick The Can December 23, 2011 at 11:36 am #

    Weren’t those the people who were called out as resellers, so they grudgingly made that series of videos of them making soap… and the videos were only a couple of minutes long each, presumably so they could look up the next step?

    And where she kept saying, “We *have* to make soap to make Etsy happy,” and, “We don’t *need* to make soap but we *have* to because Etsy said so,” … is that the shop?

    Sheesh.

  3. Discord Threads December 23, 2011 at 11:49 am #

    Wow, some people have some balls… Get some creativity and think up your own product listings…

  4. Maureen December 23, 2011 at 2:43 pm #

    Amazing… If it’s any consolation, your listings are much better.

  5. Ruthless December 23, 2011 at 2:58 pm #

    Honestly as a buyer I can’t see how they deserve a call out for this-it’s soap and there are only so many ways to express that it’s soap-stacked, tied with a string, in a box-it’s presentation. The actual listing wording and even the soaps are quite different.

  6. Life During Wartime December 23, 2011 at 3:10 pm #

    If a seller is using the signature Etsy styles to market what they sell or make, then the options for presentation are limited. I don’t actually see any direct copying here. Like when resellers use someone else’s photos and just copy-and-paste the description from another site.

    I sell vintage, and some of my listings are for items also currently listed in other vintage shops on Etsy and elsewhere on the net. If vintage sellers happen to have some of the same inventory, our listings will have similar titles, descriptions and tags. No way to avoid that. But I have had my descriptions copied by other sellers who just pasted whole paragraphs from my listings into their own (on Art Fire and RL, not Etsy). Now THAT is copying!

  7. Whimsical Grace December 23, 2011 at 3:34 pm #

    I agree with Ruthless. The words are different, the scents are different, etc.. None of EO’s soaps are displayed the exact same, and I have seen many listings with soap wrapped in pieces of paper then string. I first saw that in an Amish store in Missouri in 2009.

    If EO starts copying the scents and color patterns of the soaps, starts using the same fonts on wrappings and puts those in boxes in the same way so it looks like an actual copy, then I think you’re on to something. But as it is, there are several fairly generic ways to display soap, and each seller has done that and then added their own touches to it.

  8. adoringhag December 25, 2011 at 12:43 am #

    yes, I do believe they have been called out as the shop that is purchasing soap loaves and cutting and packaging the soap as “handmade’ by themselves, the shop owners.

  9. Sara December 25, 2011 at 6:59 pm #

    Another reseller.
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/dollarjewelry?ref=pr_shop_more

  10. GRRRRR December 25, 2011 at 7:23 pm #

    I don’t see how this is copying the other shop? The scents are different? EO’s soaps are much bigger than the other stores. Actually the store who is calling out EO’s soap copies a well known soap maker on etsy with her pictures of the little animals with her soap. Prunella I believe.

    I hadn’t heard of them being called out before. I am sure they have. I am sure it is not easy to make soap.

    However, you claim they copied you and posted a certain item weeks after you, yet the link you posted, was sold way before what you claim they copied. How does that work???

  11. Life During Wartime December 25, 2011 at 8:35 pm #

    Sara, thanks for the link. I’ve added DollarJewelry to my resellers of Chinese factory jewelry list. Up to 36 Etsy shops, so far.

  12. Marty and Christine December 25, 2011 at 9:57 pm #

    Merry Christmas





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  13. chatty December 26, 2011 at 2:09 pm #

    I thought the same as GRRRRR when I saw this…that the OP here who is calling out this soap shop actually seems more like a copier than the shop she calls out. She uses a variety of washi tape and skinny twine to close her packaging just like prunella soap, she stacks her soaps just like prunella soap, she uses a low contrast, washed out photography style with no background just like prunella soap, she uses mini paper buntings in some product photos just like prunella soap, she props and poses her photos with bottle brush trees, little plants and little animals just like prunella soaps. Prunellasoaps has a pretty distinct look so it’s easy to recognize. At least….she *did* have a distinct look but as with any successful shop on Etsy, as soon as you become the Featured Seller or become successful everyone copies you.

  14. Trista December 26, 2011 at 8:21 pm #

    Completely agreed with chatty.

    A few examples (note the dates):
    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/36114939
    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/61493722

    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/39943885
    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/62251841

    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/39239727
    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/63711144

    Prunella’s photography has improved over time so her photography in recent listings now has the washed out white background look that chatty mentioned.

    Prunella’s earliest found examples this year of stacking soap blocks by a bag & using a miniature Christmas tree prop:
    November 5th – http://www.etsy.com/transaction/62367813
    November 8th – http://www.etsy.com/transaction/62619457
    Herbivore’s earliest found example November 19th – http://www.etsy.com/transaction/63711144

    Plus the paper wrapping and washi tape, etc. etc.

  15. really? December 27, 2011 at 5:17 pm #

    Yeah, by “signature Etsy” you mean “signature prunella” on the washi tape and little plastic animals, correct? A) distinct aesthetic and marketing strategy, totally recognizable B) copying such brand recognition is a distinct sign of douchebaggery and must not be condoned. There are plenty more ways to package and photograph a product than using washi tape and plastic animals. Let’s not be complete and utter morons.

    I will agree on the reseller front though, and here’s where EO gets all her product: http://naturalsoapwholesale.com She claims to be blood related to NSW, sharing their grandmother’s recipe (with stearic? bitch please.) but funny, the people at NSW had never heard of her when asked.

    ECO, any chance we can do an ip check? Methinks someone may be back to her old posting tricks…

  16. Marty and Christine December 28, 2011 at 11:52 pm #





  17. heather December 30, 2011 at 12:31 am #

    somebody find the original post on this shop…wasnt she the one with her husband that freaked out on everybody and they have two shops the t-shirt one sells all th copied stuff too and she was saying every one was a bunch of fat looses and to mind their busines and then exploded with profanity and combinations of swearing and name calling that was fall off your chair funny?? I am off to look for it, every body should read it!!

  18. heather December 30, 2011 at 12:36 am #

    https://etsycallout.wordpress.com/?s=prunellasoap&submit=Search I found it I found it!!!! it will take a while to read through but about 1/2 way through the offender is posting secretively and they call her out with a IP check and she just turns into a crazy wombat!! must read its worth it!!

  19. DB December 30, 2011 at 7:27 pm #

    Thanks for posting those convos, Marty & Christine. I got a really good laugh out of your warning of a “serious backlash.”

    And even though the OP isn’t the most original herself, any chance to call out Elysian Organics gets a thumbs up from me.

  20. kitten December 31, 2011 at 11:55 am #

    Marty and Christine
    December 25, 2011 at 9:57 pm #
    Merry Christmas

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    Wait, what?? elysianorganics sent convos to another shop accusing them of copying what elysianorganics copied from prunellasoap?

    Elysianorganics has no orginial thoughts or ideas, their whole business is copying off of others! Well except the part of actually handmaking their soap (since they buy it in bulk and re-package it as their own).

  21. Abi December 31, 2011 at 1:30 pm #

    This is all so silly. Who knew soap was such a dramatic art? Copy cats accusing other copy cats of copying them. That is very rich!

  22. PussDaddy January 2, 2012 at 5:50 pm #

    One good thing that came out of the orignal call out however is that soap sellers who really make soap formed a team and you can always check there to find soap really being made by people.

  23. AnnaLeroy February 10, 2012 at 1:14 pm #

    yeah. i’m not really seeing it.

    “i packaged mine in a box and then SHE packaged HER’S in a box, too!….then i stacked my soaps and SHE STACKED HERS TOO!”

    well i must say i’m quite outraged at such blatant copy-catting.
    oh, c’mon. grow up and dismount your soapy high horse.

  24. Linda Strother (@beckleecottage) March 14, 2012 at 11:35 am #

    I did a feature of her on my blog and was approached by the persons that were stolen from. They talked legal action for putting up the photos that she did in fact steal. I took them right down and contacted her and did not get a satisfactory answer so I took the entire feature down. Also I bought a pair of socks from her old shop that were supposed to be hand knit by her but found they had been machine made.

  25. Talia April 12, 2012 at 9:31 am #

    I randomly came across this blog and I have to admit, I looked at all the links provided and it doesn’t seem as if any of yours versus theres are one in the same. Soap is soap and even the wording is different.

  26. katy April 20, 2012 at 4:48 am #

    Arg. This whole post is stupid. If we’re going to go there, it could be argued that ALL of the shops (including Prunella) that sell soap stack gift sets on Etsy are copying LUSH, which sold soap stack gift sets tied up with strings long before Etsy ever even existed. But that would be ridiculous, because stacking soap and tying it with string, using washi tape, etc. are such generic ideas. They aren’t anyone’s intellectual property, no one has a copyright or patent or whatever on stacking soap and tying it up, and accusations of “copying” these ideas are about as stupid as someone accusing someone else of copying for shooting against the same color background. As many have mentioned, there are only so many ways to shoot soap (or ANY item, for that matter). Jesus. I can’t believe the nerve of some people. If I read one more post here or anywhere else bitching about someone else “copying” ideas that didn’t even belong to that person in the first place, I think I’m going to shoot myself in the head.

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