Peacocks Part 2

9 Jan

This peacock thing really IS insane! Here’s a Treasury: 16 different sellers offering the identical necklace, available from alibaba for $.29-$.99 per piece http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/486199306/2011_fashion_peacock_feather_necklace.html

China and Hong Kong sellers:
http://www.etsy.com/shop/HaHaCup for $2.99 in Handmade
http://www.etsy.com/shop/GeluguAccessories for $5.95 in Handmade (seller location is China but item listing says ships from United States)
http://www.etsy.com/shop/gaobzm81122 for $3.99 in Handmade
http://www.etsy.com/shop/tonightstar for $2.99 in Handmade
http://www.etsy.com/shop/fenasd99321 for $3.99 in Handmade
http://www.etsy.com/shop/ZTBoutiques for $2.99 in Handmade
http://www.etsy.com/shop/repsxc for $1.98, listed in Handmade Jewelry but About This Item states “Handmade Supply”
http://www.etsy.com/shop/pieunc for $1.99, with the same scenario as repsxc’s listing above…hmm.
http://www.etsy.com/shop/ijewel0 for $2.50 in Handmade

U.S. sellers:
http://www.etsy.com/shop/madisonlexi for $20.00 in Handmade
http://www.etsy.com/shop/Moonrainjewelry for $18.00 in Handmade
http://www.etsy.com/shop/TheMagpiesRitual for $14.00 in Supplies (but says the chain comes with it…um, that’s a necklace)
http://www.etsy.com/shop/sharonna for $12.00 in Handmade
http://www.etsy.com/shop/diana2002 for $6.99 in Handmade

Oops, the 16th seller seems to be gone now. It was http://www.etsy.com/shop/woeirn

I linked to the sellers instead of the item so you could see their names.

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49 Responses to “Peacocks Part 2”

  1. mari January 9, 2012 at 10:13 am #

    have you heard anything back from admin at Etsy? It seems like these things are usually pretty quick to go once people are on to them. Usually by the time i check i get the “uh oh” “screen. this is really bad. I haven’t checked yet, but are they selling these as supplies to be under the radar?

  2. mari January 9, 2012 at 10:15 am #

    just checked and a ton of these are listed as supplies even though they appear in shops that purport to selling handmade! that must be why they can proliferate so easily!

  3. Trista January 9, 2012 at 10:51 am #

    Reported all of them, though I won’t hold my breath on anything happening since not one single item in the last peacock call out has been removed yet.

  4. Life During Wartime January 9, 2012 at 12:18 pm #

    It’s a good thing when Etsy closes a reseller. But I don’t understand why Etsy would close a new shop selling the same item as more than a dozen existing shops? Does the Etsy staff believe that 15 out of 16 shops selling the same peacock feather pendant necklace are handmaking identical items, and that one shop was reselling? How is that?

  5. kitten January 9, 2012 at 2:08 pm #

    Is there a link for a treasury?

  6. Life During Wartime January 9, 2012 at 2:35 pm #

    I am

    LDWcallsout on Pinterest. Working on boards now!

  7. Kristen January 9, 2012 at 2:40 pm #

    There was a peacock treasury a few moths ago. It was great. The same item at various prices.

  8. Resellers...AARRGH January 9, 2012 at 3:07 pm #

    Here are some other peacock sellers:
    heraglass, hgforeverstar, beautyandluck, toofashion2010, gaobzm81122, qizhouhuang, shininggift, myteenagedream, ArtCity2011, sevinoma, moonboat, elfishtree, leycollection, misscutiemac

    Most of them even use the same photo…
    I have found that when I am shopping on Etsy, it is better to browse through the earlier pages to see more actual handmade items. The resellers like to list and relist constantly so they are always in the first 20 or so pages.

  9. Life During Wartime January 9, 2012 at 4:52 pm #

    This is a board I started this evening:

    I am giving my eyes a rest, now.

  10. kitten January 9, 2012 at 5:20 pm #

    Life During Wartime said:

    This is a board I started this evening:

    ___________________________

    I think you are just giving these shops more advertisement. The items are getting repinned to boards called Bling, Jewelry and Products I Love.

  11. Life During Wartime January 9, 2012 at 5:37 pm #

    kitten, the reseller jewelry shops have among them probably close to 100K sales without me pinning a single one of their items. I think the reseller issue has long past the point where those of us who respect handmade can make a difference about Etsy’s lack of site integrity by keeping things quiet. And hoping the resellers will just give up, and go away.

  12. Theresa January 9, 2012 at 6:33 pm #

    I cant believe these people are selling mass made products as hand made. I would think a savvy shopper would know the item is mass made if they seller is in China.

    You all should look into Artfire to sell your hand made goods. They have opened a commercial catageory and move all these type items in that catageory. That why the buyer has to go to that section to shop. They really police the made in china items over there.

  13. Life During Wartime January 9, 2012 at 6:46 pm #

    Theresa, you are joking, right?

    ArtFire shop full of reseller items:
    http://www.artfire.com/ext/shop/studio/lovers2009
    Listed in Handmade Jewelry, not the commercial section. All it took to find this shop was a search under handmade jewelry for
    pocket watch necklace
    and, voila! I saw reseller items, just like on Etsy.

    You were saying about AF for selling handmade?

  14. Life During Wartime January 9, 2012 at 6:49 pm #

    Another reseller from the AF handmade hall of shame
    http://www.artfire.com/ext/shop/studio/GlazedBlackCherry

  15. Life During Wartime January 9, 2012 at 6:52 pm #

    You can see from the waternark on this photo the name of the AF reseller’s Etsy shop:
    http://www.artfire.com/ext/shop/product_view/lovers2009/4170430/retro_silver_heart_steampunk_necklace_pocket_watch_necklace_harry_p___/handmade/jewelry

  16. Life During Wartime January 9, 2012 at 6:59 pm #

    This Art Fire seller also lists reseller jewelry items as handmade:
    http://www.artfire.com/ext/shop/studio/BabyLovesPink
    You can find the owl watch pendant in her studio/shop/store.

  17. GRRRRR January 9, 2012 at 7:02 pm #

    Well I’m repinning to a board call ETSY MASS MANUFACTURED 🙂

  18. Life During Wartime January 9, 2012 at 7:04 pm #

    I found this seller’s golden snitch reseller necklaces listed as handmade:
    http://www.artfire.com/ext/shop/studio/yayabead
    Different venue, same stuff as Etsy.

    What I cannot figure out is how easy the stuff is to find on AF with so few listings to look at. What is Tony’s excuse, I wonder, for allowing resellers to pass factory made jewelry as handmade on his site?

  19. kitten January 9, 2012 at 7:05 pm #

    TheresaJanuary said:

    You all should look into Artfire to sell your hand made goods. They have opened a commercial catageory and move all these type items in that catageory. That why the buyer has to go to that section to shop. They really police the made in china items over there.
    ___________________________________

    I bet you think Artfire’s attractive too! I think AF is on the fast road to self destruction.

  20. Life During Wartime January 9, 2012 at 7:10 pm #

    Right from China to the AF shopper, the enamel owl pendant necklace listed as handmade, sold as shown on Ali Express.
    http://www.artfire.com/ext/shop/product_view/seizethenight/3704575/the_genevieve_necklace_-_boho_owl_necklace/handmade/jewelry/necklaces/metal

  21. Life During Wartime January 9, 2012 at 7:11 pm #

    Art Fire’s resellers don’t show up on Google searches, which is one reason why AF’s stores have low sales. But I will be visiting AF’s handmade jewelry category for additions to my callout boards. AF = busted!!!!

  22. Theresa January 9, 2012 at 7:28 pm #

    Wow! I really thought they were on top of things over at AF. You guys all opened my eyes. I purchase many items on Artfire and Etsy, but I usually have been referred to the store and I check out their Facebook page to make sure they are really a hand made seller. I am assuming non of the resellers you have mentioned would have a facebook page about their items.

    I feel a little dull right now.

  23. Theresa January 9, 2012 at 7:30 pm #

    Now I feel even dumber. I just checked out one of the resellers, Babylovespink, she has an entire facebook page where she is describing the items as hand painted. I am sure they are, but probably in a sweat shop in China.

  24. GRRRRR January 9, 2012 at 7:40 pm #

    Oh look they have their own website http://www.babylovespink.com/Bitten-Apple-Necklace.html

  25. Life During Wartime January 9, 2012 at 7:43 pm #

    Theresa, I didn’t look at the handpainted things because I have never researched them. They could very well be handmade by the seller.

    The watches and owls and lockets I have researched. I am sure there are partial handmade + partial reselling stores on AF just like on Etsy. But that is still against the rules on AF — I think — for you to list reseller items as handmade even if they are just a small percent of your items?

  26. susan January 9, 2012 at 8:30 pm #

    LDW, I like your kitty! And your amazing reseller hunt. Meow!!

  27. Theresa January 9, 2012 at 8:32 pm #

    At least on the website in the FAQ section she addresses the hand-made/commercial difference, so at least if you buy direct from her you know what you are getting. But, on Artfire you don’t.

    I

  28. booboo January 10, 2012 at 3:44 am #

    I’m not crazy about Artfire allowing resellers/commercial items BUT they WILL move them out of handmade and into their commercial section if you file a complaint and back it up with links. I’ve submitted 3 resellers so far and all were moved into Commercial within 3-4 days. And the entire shop is listed as either Handmade or Commercial — if AF decides you are selling one commercial item, then everything in your shop shows up only under commercial.

  29. Theresa January 10, 2012 at 8:39 am #

    I guess at least Artfire is doing something

  30. Theresa January 10, 2012 at 8:41 am #

    Artfire items do show in Google searches you just have to put extra effort into SEO, but if you do it correctly you can be successful on Artfire. I sell in the supplies catagory and have almost 4k sales in the year and a half I have been on there.

    It does take work to get your searches to show up, but it is a very reasonable place to sell. Etsy is going the way of Ebay with the costs.

  31. Life During Wartime January 10, 2012 at 9:44 am #

    I don’t understand why Art Fire or Etsy want that cheap carp jewelry on their sites, whatever section they put those sellers in?

    I think it is a huge joke that some girls call that stuff ‘bling’ and want to repin the items from my callout board as sought after fashion pieces. Plastic crystals and cheap alloy castings (the close up photos on Ali Baba tell the story about how sloppy the casting is) is their idea of ‘bling’? As down market as you can get!

    If Etsy and AF want to sell mass made costume ‘bling’ they could do better.

  32. Life During Wartime January 10, 2012 at 9:49 am #

    susan, the kitty in the photo is the late and much missed Miss Geli, one of our 3 original kitties, all shelter or feral cats. They were all amazing mousers, but Geli never played with a mouse. If she got one, it was history.

  33. Blah January 11, 2012 at 9:23 am #

    It’s about the Bottom Line, is all.

  34. Life During Wartime January 11, 2012 at 3:25 pm #

    Yes, she was called out first by Regretsy in a compare and save. But the seller does more than cut the hanger strings off of the peacock ornaments. She adds the crystals, so the item is handmade. And no way should her altered item be priced the same as the peacock ornaments without the crystals. Regretsy was way off there.

  35. cynicallyopenminded January 11, 2012 at 5:15 pm #

    Off topic, but slightly related because it’s a birdcage…didn’t this get called out within the last week or two: http://www.etsy.com/listing/81719079/sweet-plum-purple-upcycled-and-refurbish

    It’s now on the front page.

  36. Life During Wartime January 11, 2012 at 7:12 pm #

    I saw it, and added it to my fauxtiques pinboard. Actually it isn’t a birdcage. It has an open bottom and no door, no perch, no drinking dish. It’s a decor accessory shaped like a bird cage. It’s not 20 years old. Nothing about it is vintage.

  37. Life During Wartime January 12, 2012 at 6:53 pm #

    Who remembers Etsy shop hydrate — the cheap plastic pearl thong seller with copied photos? Etsy got tons of reports on this shop, but decided to leave them open for business. They are on Regretsy today. Take a look at their FB:
    http://www.etsy.com/people/Hydrate/feedback

  38. Angela January 12, 2012 at 10:07 pm #

    What a bunch of hooey! I just reported all those items. I was becoming more and more disappointed at what I am seeing at Etsy, and today I decided to do some research on this issue, and found this blog. I am glad I did, as I think it is important to do this job. Thank you very much.

  39. Etsy Vigilante January 13, 2012 at 6:05 am #

    Wanted to use one of the items from CamillaCotton in a treasury but banished the thought after seeing this and more listed as handmade in the shop http://www.etsy.com/listing/71712541/rustic-garden-crown-royal-distressed

  40. Etsy Vigilante January 13, 2012 at 6:09 am #

    And here’s the exact same item for $27.99 at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/FantasticDecor-Metal-Crown-D10-x11-5/dp/B005LEBK86 instead of CamillaCotton at $42. And it doesn’t appear that she “painted and distressed” it at all.

  41. Really? January 13, 2012 at 6:35 am #

    Reseller? http://www.etsy.com/shop/Lyuve?ref=seller_info

  42. Susan January 13, 2012 at 8:24 am #

    CamilaCotton is selling it as a supply she says! So it’s legit! Right!? Tee hee, all the way to the bank. Too bad the word supply doesn’t appear in her disgustingly overstuffed titled and tags. So stuffed that it’s hard to tell what the heck she is selling.

  43. Blah January 13, 2012 at 9:57 am #

    “About

    Lyuve is a platform for artistic endeavors to have the world blossom

    Our shop whatever that means.

  44. cynicallyopenminded January 13, 2012 at 1:25 pm #

    I checked out the crown…she stated in her description that she is selling it as a supply, but it is categorized under handmade. Lame.

  45. Life During Wartime January 13, 2012 at 1:43 pm #

    Now that Etsy is testing making the category, tags, materials and attributes visible only by clicking a link, most people looking at that item will assume she is selling it as a supply because she says so. (And it is not a supply according to the rules, it is a finished stand alone decor item.)

  46. Etsy Vigilante January 13, 2012 at 4:48 pm #

    And what IS with Etsy making categories and tags invisible?

  47. jewellover January 31, 2012 at 1:20 pm #

    You people are aware of Etsy’s simple assembly policy right? You can take a pendant and make it into a necklace. They consider this “handmade”. FOr example this shop – http://www.etsy.com/shop/contrary

    That is no different than the peacock and owls. She takes a pendant she purchased, adds a jumper and puts it on a chain. It sucks that so many people buy these owls and peacocks – but if there is a demand, people will continue to make them.

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