Reseller or not?

28 Apr

All of them, reseller , You can buy anythings like in those shops in market everywhere in Thailand and surely they are not unique!!!!
please ask them how they made?

I saw more shops in etsy. They are reseller. I think this not fair and fake for handmade.
Yes, those are handmade but made from someone or some shop. BUY AND SELL. It is very easy.

Just to give example today. If I search more will see more! It was very sad with this who love real handmade include me.

Reseller or not?

1) ThaiGraceDesigns

http://www.etsy.com/listing/96005491/purple-owl-keychain-valentines-day?ref=v1_other_1
http://www.etsy.com/listing/90356539/pink-owl-keychain-valentines-day

Those are just part from
http://thaihandmadecrafts.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=59

2)shopthailand

http://www.etsy.com/listing/98533599/ethnic-handmade-bag-vintage-style-fabric?ref=v1_other_2
please look from Google

http://www.google.co.th/search?hl=th&biw=1280&bih=663&q=%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B0%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%9B%E0%B9%8B%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%9C%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%8A%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A7%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%82%E0%B8%B2&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=bgabT7mjHcjmrAftpoWgDg

3)jinny888
http://www.etsy.com/listing/98452840/feather-earrings-leather-feather-jewelry

4)bsiripo
http://www.etsy.com/listing/96220706/chic-tote-bag-vintage-handmade-ethnic

5)PaeConover
http://www.etsy.com/listing/96472367/elephant-silk-tissue-box-cover-from

28 Responses to “Reseller or not?”

  1. Laundress April 28, 2012 at 8:22 pm #

    Only because this reseller has been chatting it up in the forums all week – feel free to flag away please.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/98190858/apricot-genuine-cowhide-leather-top?ref=tre-2722721294-2

    http://www.buybuybag.com/product/ouovo-vintage-floral-lace-genuine-cowhide-shoulder-messenger-satchel-bag-for-women-595.html

  2. resellonetsy April 28, 2012 at 10:16 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/96005491/purple-owl-keychain-valentines-day?ref=v1_other_1

    This is junk from Chinatown, you can buy 100s of these kinds of things. It is handmade in a Chinese factory, very cheap.

    Yes, these are everywhere, and they are not made in Thailand.
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/96005491/purple-owl-keychain-valentines-day?ref=v1_other_1

    These bags are from Chinatown, they are handmade at all. They are machine made in China. They also fall apart easy, threads hanging, that kind of thing. Maybe $8-$10 in Thailand unless you are a importer, then much cheaper.

    Ya, of course they are on google, but they are imported from China.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/96005491/purple-owl-keychain-valentines-day?ref=v1_other_1

    very cheap in Thailand, maybe $2. Feather earrings are everywhere, some look real good. I suspect a lot of that comes from China also.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/96005491/purple-owl-keychain-valentines-day?ref=v1_other_1

    OOP!!!!!!!!!! Goodbye Idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are history!

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/96005491/purple-owl-keychain-valentines-day?ref=v1_other_1

    This is tourist stuff, can buy it anywhere in the streets. Its actually a nice looking product, made for tourists, and cheap!

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/96005491/purple-owl-keychain-valentines-day?ref=v1_other_1
    Cheap China garbage, $99 is highway robbery.

    don’t forget to bang this Thai seller. All of this stuff is made in Bali and sold in Thai resale shops. I bet you $500 they could not cut a pair of earrings out of bone in one week!

    Don’t forget this shop that takes in 1-2K a day selling stuff that is machine made from China. Read the profile, it sounds like bunk,right?
    http://www.etsy.com/shop/thaisaket

    Bad news for Etsy, there are sewing machines on every corner in Bangkok. You can go into areas everywhere to see 40 sewing shops lines up in a row. Thailand imports 1000s of containers of clothing every month. Maybe boatloads. There are dozens of markets selling cheap clothing. And if that’s not enough, you can go over the border to Cambodia and buy piles of cheaper clothing. The worst part is not US department stores are buying these .99 shirts, putting a label on them, then selling then for $99. Nice? huh? So, do you think anybody on etsy makes clothing? People must be able to sew, it saves money in a poor country. But for them to handle all the skills it takes to sell on the net? Not likely.
    Is etsy going to take these people off????? NOPE? Some have been there since 2005.

  3. resellonetsy April 28, 2012 at 10:19 pm #

    If you look back on this site a year ago, or more. People seemed a lot more hot to remove resellers! Some of the forums were very lively. Resellers came in and said stupid things, it was great! Lets get back to those days. It takes a group effort to remove people. Let etsy know that just because some fool sent them some photos with Etsy Orange in the photo, it does not mean they made anything. How dumb do you think cheaters are? It will take more than a paper.

  4. resellonetsy April 29, 2012 at 5:30 am #

    Did any of your see this? You should go leave your comments there?
    http://www.webpronews.com/etsys-reseller-debacle-handmade-site-features-questionable-goods-2012-04

  5. cassedy April 29, 2012 at 1:33 pm #

    they removed her 1 neg. and is back up to 100% positive feedback.
    she also added Chad to her “circle”………

  6. TheBargainBabe April 29, 2012 at 1:48 pm #

    I flagged the purse from china.
    Resellonetsy—I am still here. I think this site may pick up more traffic with the recent baligate from etsy. Barf.

    Cassedy—OMGOSH. That makes me mad, they removed her negative feedback, but LEFT all the neg feedback SHE LEFT for people.

    Honestly the woman is a whore. A money grubbing, no standards whore.

  7. resellonetsy April 29, 2012 at 3:04 pm #

    Now there is a funny deal! Removing her negatives, but leaving the ones she left!
    Whats that all about?

    I agree, probably people go through their ups and downs. Apologizing for featuring a reseller is kinda saying they was incompenent to begin with? Is that right? That makes me wonder exactly who is checking the sellers on etsy. I agree, they have gotten a lot smarter,
    and the new sets of questions they send out to have people prove they are making the stuff is a lot harder to get by. This will cut out a lot of resellers in certain markets. But what about resellers that are working with shops that help them to appear like they are really making something? What about sellers that proved they were Ok by the old standards, but maybe should be rechecked? I think part of the problem is degree. Like a group of people working together. Can you define a Chinese factory as a group of artists working together? How about a group of earring carvers in Bali? By reading the rules of who belongs on etsy, I am personally not clear who belongs. One of the reasons I think that certain things go for so much money on etsy is that prospective customers believe they are buying from artists. If too many resellers ruin the reputation of etsy, the potential profits for artists will errode. Also, artists that spend hard time making things are not likely to have 60% sales. Perhaps etsy should make a new set of flags for spotting resellers. Frequent discount sales, maybe investing too much money trying to stay on the first page, maybe posting too many items hoping to drown out the compeition. You have to wonder exactly what is the behavior of real artists as compared to that of resellers. Some of the smarter ones are mixing items they made along with items they didn’t make. I think real artists in general also don’t need elaborate stories to try to explain to you that they are artists, or craftsmen. (profiles) A lot of resellers have very dumb profiles. People that make stuff for real usually have an intelligent story. Just thoughts. I always hope to come up with a suggestion that might make a difference.

  8. Sickofetsywhores April 29, 2012 at 3:51 pm #

    She must be blowing Chad.

  9. TheBargainBabe April 29, 2012 at 6:48 pm #

    ^Yup.

  10. BuggyMe April 29, 2012 at 8:22 pm #

    I was asked to post this here:

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/97140803/complete-bridal-package-silk-bouquets

    Is a bouquet sold from a friend’s shop to a person in S. Carolina a little while ago..

    here’s the one that was sold the friend:
    http://www.etsy.com/transaction/78072647

    Looks like she just flipped the photo… and is claiming it’s her own!
    WTF?!?://www.etsy.com/listing/98583701/complete-bridal-package-silk

    This

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/98583701/complete-bridal-package-silk

    is listed like 500 other places including:

    http://www.locksnbows.com/seasonal.htm

    the stolen image being from here:

    http://www.bridesign.com/?partner=PA000009

    because she was too lazy to click on the image and go through to the image without the text on it.

    this also is obviously stolen:

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/98565548/complete-bridal-package-small-silk

    from

    http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/flower-ideas-for-a-flower-clueless-bride

    and a few other places.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/98583330/complete-bridal-package-small-silk
    at
    trendific.com, roses4you.com, and expressions24-7.com (not finding the specific page links)

    and

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/98460709/bridal-silk-cascade-bouquet
    @ http://www.seattleflowers.com/gallery/brides-teardrop-bouquet/bridal-teardrop-bouquet-ws-1-11.jpg

    and
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/98400468/complete-bridal-package-silk-bouquets
    is
    http://humphreyflorist.com/gallery/index14.htm

    It looks like her whole shop is stolen photos.

  11. Susan May 1, 2012 at 5:17 am #

    ^^yup Maybe banging one of their financial backers. Etsy wouldn’t have defended her to this point without it having a personal connection.

  12. Sickofetsywhores May 1, 2012 at 10:02 am #

    Just did a search for “elephant bracelet” and the resellers find themselves.

  13. resellonetsy May 1, 2012 at 12:45 pm #

    Sorry for some of my poor English, I thought I spoke better than that. Hope you understand my points even with the bad english.

  14. Yellshe May 2, 2012 at 5:18 am #

    The one with products from Thailand got shut down. Digital camera from the 1970s http://www.etsy.com/listing/74374696/sony-mavica-mvc-fd91-digital-slr-camera?ref=v1_other_1 I’ll bet every hippy had one! Interestingly enough I found out that the first digital camera in this series was made in 1997… Ooops. Do a vintage search on digital cameras for a good laugh.

  15. resellonetsy May 2, 2012 at 7:00 am #

    I would call this one a vintage digital camera. The early Sony cameras were pretty powerful and quite expensive. ($1000) I also lived in Haight Asbury around 1979. We took photos, but not often. I forget if mine had a digital chip or now, maybe that came later. My first photos of items to sell on the net were taken with a film camera. I scanned them so I could make the digital files. I didn’t trust the new digital when I was already getting good photos on a film camera.

  16. resellonetsy May 2, 2012 at 7:12 am #

    I would say that Thailand and China pose the worse problems for etsy for controlling resellers. The USA would be the third. Why? 1. The control of English 2. Less suspicion about reselling 3. The ease to import goods that become much more valuable in the USA than if sold from outside the USA. Like Bali tribal earrings. Most people would rather order them locally. 4. The ease of making new accounts under different names and being verified. Easy in the USA. On the downside, from the USA, it is harder to prove you are the maker of such goods. It is not a problem to tour a Chinese factory that makes clothing and take photos. You only need a friend with a camera. Now if etsy tests you saying to make a dress similar to the one you have advertised, in Asia its a snap to get that done. In the USA, it could be a problem unless you happen to sew. I would estimate that 90% of sellers from Thailand and China, never made a thing. A few may be actual factories trying to unload items they cannot sell otherwise, or taking advantage of the net. A Chinese factory is not a group of artists working together. It is usually younger people, under tremendous control, working for very low wages. Thats how it works. If you wonder about that, read about Apple computer to get the real picture of such factories.

  17. Yellshe May 2, 2012 at 9:27 am #

    Resellonetsy it is in fact not vintage and there are a few dead give aways. First the screen, then the fact that it is compatible with windows 95 and 98, and has a cd for installation. Google the camera make and model for all kinds of info like reviews and other places it is sold.

  18. jobradleyviamargutta51 May 2, 2012 at 12:35 pm #

    Cape May Crafts selling a new digital camera as a supply, needs to be flagged:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/94658459/sony-cyber-shot-dsc-w330-digital-camera?ref=sr_gallery_9&ga_search_query=digital+camera&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_ship_to=US&ga_search_type=all

  19. Kori Houghton May 2, 2012 at 3:27 pm #

    On the front page now, “vintage” cropped pants:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/78962373/secret-of-the-lizard-vintage-jcrew-soft?ref=fp_treasury_3#

  20. Michelle May 2, 2012 at 4:06 pm #

    I must be really dumb. I had to go through all of those steps to prove I make my simple stretch bracelets and it seemed so stressful although I make everything from all my supplies from my other store. I don’t see how I could have gotten away with mass produced bracelets when I would need to buy 12 dozen of one color. 12 dozen is 144 of the same exact bracelets, but I can make many different ones with all of my supplies which I had to take a million pictures of. I guess I would make a horrible criminal.

    I can say that while I was over in China I did not see stretch bracelets, but loads of shamballa bracelets, but you still had to get bunches of them. I loaded up on more supplies than anything only because they are in demand and they are super cheap along with being very easy to sell.

  21. EtsyVigilante May 3, 2012 at 11:06 am #

    Reseller or not: http://www.etsy.com/shop/MasayaMarket?ref=pr_shop_more Did he handmake all these hammocks himself? Says that he likes hunting in his profile and provides link to his website which sells the same items – slingshots – as on the LAST page of his etsy store. At the very least, flag this store for that.

  22. Stiffler'sMom May 3, 2012 at 2:33 pm #

    So little here that is vintage by etsy’s rules:

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/paroliro?ref=seller_info

  23. Stiffler'sMom May 3, 2012 at 2:34 pm #

    I have flagged that hammock seller time and time again. Those things are so easy to buy wholesale.

  24. cassedy May 4, 2012 at 9:04 am #

    the hammock guy is a “collective”, he is etsy legal, bwahahahahahhaha…………..

  25. resellonetsy May 5, 2012 at 6:51 am #

    So what is a collective? 98 15 year old Chinese working and sleeping in a factory for $80 a month. Is that a collective? This is just a bunch of business people trying to get a piece of the handmade market.

    Stretch bracelets? Michelle, are you frigging blind? There are stretch bracelets in China on every corner for tourists to buy. That is what Chinese factories do do keep the workers busy when they don’t have a big order. Why would anybody waste time making an item that sells for $3 in China anyway?

  26. Michelle May 5, 2012 at 11:05 am #

    Resellonetsy………thongs are meant to be stuck up your ass, not granny panties. Get them out and stop being such a bitch. I got some last night and I suggest you get some yourself and maybe that would put you more at ease! You would swear I made fun of you in school. By the way, its my business how I decide to waste my time. Thanks for caring so much about what I do. You are very amusing!

  27. Disgusted2 May 7, 2012 at 7:46 am #

    Not-so geniousbags (mentioned in the 1st comment way above) is back in the forums calling herself out http://www.etsy.com/teams/7718/site-help/discuss/10264888/page/1

    Thread closed, of course. Shop remains open, of course. Just once you’d think Admin would casually glance at the shop that is the object of ridicule. Nope.

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