ecologicamalibu

23 Apr

A most enjoyable read.

http://www.regretsy.com/2012/04/21/the-etsy-featured-reseller-ecologica-malibu/

An article in the Consumerist:
http://consumerist.com/2012/04/etsy-features-seller-who-may-be-blatantly-violating-etsy-policy.html

Crafty Moira’s Blog post:
http://craftymoira.blogspot.ca/2012/04/etsy-scandal-ecologica-malibu.html

Entire Featured Seller interview with all original comments:
http://neogami.com/baligate.html

WebProNews article:
http://www.webpronews.com/etsys-reseller-debacle-handmade-site-features-questionable-goods-2012-04

PussDaddy’s Blog:
http://pussdaddyblogs.blogspot.ca/2012/04/etsy-makes-reseller-their-featured.html

Daily Dot .com:
http://www.dailydot.com/news/etsy-defends-accused-reseller-ecologica-malibu/

There’s so much more too! Please help keep Etsy from sweeping this under the rug by tweeting #scumbagetsy

44 Responses to “ecologicamalibu”

  1. dianne April 23, 2012 at 7:21 am #

    she still manged to have a very profitable 2 days and the store is still there today.

  2. Dee April 23, 2012 at 7:32 am #

    That was a great read but Regretsy’s was even better!

    http://www.regretsy.com/2012/04/21/the-etsy-featured-reseller-ecologica-malibu/

  3. susan April 23, 2012 at 7:32 am #

    Impressive! Many great comments on Regretsy.

    This goes right to the heart of the problem with what is handmade on Etsy these days, the misuse of the “collective” category. Those people are employees or pieceworkers, pure and simple. They have no stake in the final selling price of the item. Etsy has stepped around the definition of collective a number of times and has turned a blind eye to their own TOU directive that the seller be substantially involved in actually making the piece. I doubt they will clarify just how they thought that overseas manufacturing equalled handmade by seller.

    Or

    Cool looking always outweighs dubious origin on Etsy

  4. EtsyVigilante April 23, 2012 at 8:06 am #

    Etsy really lost some big-time credibility with this one! Look for a Wall Street Journal Etsy update on their recent feature “Busted by the Craft Cops”. Ecologica has now plastered the Etsy orange box on their website homepage with “Featured on Etsy” across it. (Wish they had a shot of that revealing bill-of-lading next to it). Maybe WSJ will pick it up.

  5. SlayBelles April 23, 2012 at 8:35 am #

    I laughed when I read the WSJ article and saw the reference to this site. I once closed a forum thread by mentioning this site as a resource 101 for ‘how to spot a re-seller.’ It’s not nice to callout, so it’s extra not nice to mention the name of a site that calls out.

    Glamour-gate, Coral-gate, and now Ecolo-gate. Where are the Woodward and Bernstein’s of this generation?

  6. theperfectnose April 23, 2012 at 4:20 pm #

    Hilarity ensues… Just found this site today thanks for sharing this. Winchell is awesome😄

  7. SlayBelles April 23, 2012 at 5:15 pm #

    It’s OK, she’s a ‘collective’ http://www.etsy.com/teams/7716/announcements/discuss/10182001/page/1/

  8. Dee April 23, 2012 at 5:32 pm #

    Etsy must have really wanted her shop on their site to twist that around into a “collective”. I’ve seen shops kicked off for less reason than the one this chic had.

  9. etsycallout April 23, 2012 at 8:17 pm #

    I liked how she called the guy by the wrong name & then he said she designed the “majority” of the items. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean all. Oops!

  10. ......... April 23, 2012 at 8:23 pm #

    Lovely how it is so wrong and she is still there, the bill of delivery says it is put together furniture, guess your employees can now live in other countries!

  11. ......... April 23, 2012 at 8:24 pm #

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/MYCACouture

  12. Dee April 23, 2012 at 8:51 pm #

    Wow! Do we really have to have personal shop links spamming on here?

  13. Lisa April 24, 2012 at 2:02 am #

    Well, if they did it to bring traffic to their shop, they screwed up. Looks like a reseller to me.

  14. sickofcupcakes April 24, 2012 at 3:06 am #

    Not spamming, it’s obviously a reseller. Derp.

  15. Stiffler'sMom April 24, 2012 at 3:31 am #

    Yeah, MYCACouture is clearly a reseller. No one makes a fedora and sells it for $6.

  16. EtsyVigilante April 24, 2012 at 5:20 am #

    MYCACouture, you just called yourself out. Reported.

  17. Michelle April 24, 2012 at 6:08 am #

    I don’t think it was the seller themselves posting their own link. That would actually be beyond stupid.

  18. Dee April 24, 2012 at 6:44 am #

    Sorry, I didn’t even go look at it. I see enough of the spamming crap on treasuries. And yes, some seller are bold enough to send spam convos direct. LOL!

  19. Holytape April 24, 2012 at 6:48 am #

    I don’t think you can’t import scrap wood like this. With the introduction of Asian Longhorn Beetle and the Emerald Ash borer, the US has gotten fincky about what it lets in. It has to be chemical and heat treated, and even then it’s usually only allowed if it’s going to a pulper right away. Importing small batches of wood are not economical. Unless she’s importing scrap wood by the tonnage. (Finished wood products are treated differently)

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/SassyFurniture <- reseller
    http://www.zgallerie.com/p-10537-gazelle-head-wall-plaque.aspx <- original

  20. Kim April 24, 2012 at 8:30 am #

    Something doesn’t seem right with ecologicamalibu’s feedback. She left a bunch of negative feedback, I believe all on the same day, and there are no negative feedback left for her?

  21. Amy April 24, 2012 at 10:13 am #

    I bet the negative feedbacks are for non-payment. She does not take Paypal, so i would imagine there were many who changed their mind about purchasing once they realized that. Just a guess. Curious to see how this will all unfold, hoping Regretsy does an update post.

  22. sickofcupcakes April 24, 2012 at 12:09 pm #

    I believe when the poop hit the fan someone fake bought a bunch of her items and left neg feedback. Of course etsy removed it immediately for their featured reseller.

  23. Dee April 24, 2012 at 3:02 pm #

    Oh-oh we all in trouble now. She’s pulled out her lawyer husband!

    There’s been an update on Regretsy!

    http://www.regretsy.com/2012/04/24/update-ecologica-malibu/

  24. Stiffler'sMom April 24, 2012 at 5:56 pm #

    I think we should all just give up at the clusterfuck that is etsy. I think its pretty clear that they are not going to change.

  25. Loveland April 24, 2012 at 7:35 pm #

    No , they aren’t going to change..
    they will ever so slowly die..
    like all other flashes in the pans..little by little- even Walmart has begun to suffer the backlash of their actions…STOCKS will fall..And so will ETSY’s- not because of this event- or that event- but event.. after event ..after event.
    Listen to your own Forums Etsy- CONFORM OR DIE.

    Welcome to the Downward spiral of Life.

  26. Wish it weren't so... April 25, 2012 at 5:46 am #

    Interesting… Different seller. Same unique items

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/98039646/beach-decor-wood-table-top-vintage-style

  27. Sara of Lilly Queen Vintage April 25, 2012 at 7:17 am #

    I can’t believe this – a seller like this can keep selling and yesterday Etsy suspended my account for ONE ITEM being in question of NOT being vintage. Not to mention my shop was featured in an Etsy Labs video by Michelle of Etsy – and she even BOUGHT an item from my shop!

    I’m in this video w/Michelle – Scroll to the 19 minute mark
    http://www.etsy.com/blog/en/2012/the-four-keys-to-success-for-new-sellers/?utm_source=bronto&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Getting+Views+But+Not+Sales%3F&utm_content=etsy_success_041112a&utm_campaign=etsy_success_041112a

    Its been 12 hours since they closed my shop – I responded to them and still havent gotten a response!

  28. Onlyme April 25, 2012 at 9:38 am #

    I’ve found some more on this issue for you!

    An article in the Consumerist:
    http://consumerist.com/2012/04/etsy-features-seller-who-may-be-blatantly-violating-etsy-policy.html

    Crafty Moira’s Blog post:
    http://craftymoira.blogspot.ca/2012/04/etsy-scandal-ecologica-malibu.html

    Entire Featured Seller interview with all original comments:
    http://neogami.com/baligate.html

    WebProNews article:
    http://www.webpronews.com/etsys-reseller-debacle-handmade-site-features-questionable-goods-2012-04

    PussDaddy’s Blog:
    http://pussdaddyblogs.blogspot.ca/2012/04/etsy-makes-reseller-their-featured.html

    Daily Dot .com:
    http://www.dailydot.com/news/etsy-defends-accused-reseller-ecologica-malibu/

    There’s so much more too! Please help keep Etsy from sweeping this under the rug by tweeting #scumbagetsy

  29. lovetheclones April 26, 2012 at 12:31 pm #

    Okay so a vintage seller can can banhammered for having ONE item flagged by some random idiot but this is legit??wtf the cupcakes running Etsy collectively must have so little real life experience that they cant tell their ass from their elbow.How is paying third world workers probably dirt wages to make ugly ass ,lead painted furniture which is then loaded onto a diesel burning,carbon spewing cargo ship across the pacific to some old man financed trophy wife in Malibu with a perfect manicure to profit from at the expense of legit artists and craftspeople,vintage sellers trying to feed their families.Up yours Etsy.

  30. Dee April 26, 2012 at 12:42 pm #

    Etsy comes clean, on the sly….meaning they still haven’t said a word to us, but they did tell the WSJ

    http://www.ceo.com/flink/?lnk=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Fvideo%2Fboss-talk-etsy%2FE6BDB64E-B496-4330-9FC9-063F5E6D32EE.html&id=199875

  31. EtsyVigilante April 26, 2012 at 5:24 pm #

    Good sleuthing, Dee. Etsy’s CEO divulges the game plan and it includes more than handmade, vintage and supplies.

  32. Dee April 26, 2012 at 7:08 pm #

    If you looked at the vid, you realize that Etsy has done a complete 180 and all of a sudden they were never about just handmade. This from a company that has been well known for shut downs, muting and blackballing their sellers. NOW they’re singing a different tune, totally skipped us sellers and took it to the media. We, the sellers, weren’t even worth mentioning it to.We weren’t worth the time. We aren’t worth being bothered with. We have no stake or say in anything they do. We….aren’t worthy of their respect.

    Personally, I don’t mind this shift to small business. I don’t have a problem with that. The only problem that I have is how they brought it to us, or the lack thereof.

  33. Stormy April 27, 2012 at 8:10 pm #

    I hadn’t seen this tasty bit yet …

    http://abovethelaw.com/2012/04/cease-and-desist-letter-that-shows-why-nobody-would-hire-me-to-write-a-cease-and-desist-letter/

    The last part of the first page is delicious!

  34. Louise April 28, 2012 at 3:57 pm #

    Etsy sellers – make a stand by signing up for the May 10th Etsy boycott day:
    http://www.protesty.com/index.php

    Sign the petition:
    http://www.change.org/petitions/etsy-issue-a-public-statement-with-a-plan-to-eliminate-resellers#share

    If you are an Etsy buyer, show solidarity to sellers on Etsy by spending your money elsewhere on the protest days 1st and 10th May!

  35. Dee April 28, 2012 at 11:04 pm #

    Made in Bali!

  36. I'm Not a Child, Chad April 29, 2012 at 5:08 am #

    All the Etsy crap about defining collectives is meaningless when it has been proven she is an importer/distributor for allfromboats.com. Any discussion about “clarification” of the definition of a collective is just a smoke screen, and takes focus away from the real issue. Etsy screwed up bigtime…again.

    Now Chad responds http://www.etsy.com/blog/news/2012/notes-from-chad-6/ with more bull. I am especially offended by the paragraph that begins, “On that note, I wanted to talk a bit more about expectations for behavior in the Etsy community…”

    My blood is boiling from this dictatorial attempt to control my “behavior.” I will be participating in the May 10th boycott.

  37. resellonetsy April 29, 2012 at 5:34 am #

    This looks big now, this was on Webpronews. That seems to be bad publicity?
    http://www.webpronews.com/etsys-reseller-debacle-handmade-site-features-questionable-goods-2012-04
    Here is the title of this.
    Etsy’s Reseller Debacle: Handmade Site Features Questionable Goods
    “Featured Seller” has furniture sold on Overstock.com

  38. Dee April 29, 2012 at 7:27 am #

    To date, Etsy has always used their “no calling out” rule to keep sellers under control. The sooner they get us to shut the fuck up, the sooner all of this will go away. A very convenient way to hush the masses. They’ve been doing it for years. This time the issue had moved far out beyond Etsy’s borders and that’s what prompted Chad to finally come forth with an explanation. Damage control.

    Someone said, “This will all be over in a week!” Will it? I’m not sure. Neither am I sure a protest will work. Etsy isn’t the federal government and they don’t answer to the people. But maybe it is time to get the government involved. Unless the sellers come up with a way to really affect Etsy’s bottom line…. money. This really will be over in a week.The week everyone goes into vacation mode to protest. Then what?

    The evidence already exist and has been shown to them, that the Ecologica lady is a reseller. They already know this. And they have purposely decided they now want resellers on Etsy. They’ve decided to put a new spin on their TOUs. They’ve decided to tell the media (WSJ) “Etsy was never just about handmade!” If etsy sees the youtube vid, that’s not going to change their stance. I don’t think anything will. Ever.

  39. sickofetsyshit and I can't look away April 29, 2012 at 2:02 pm #

    Yes, it’s been said but it bears repeating since I just began exploring this fascinating new clusterfck of etsy: handmade vs. integrity vs. PROFITS…

    regarding the name of of this specific POS ecologicamalibu – just how ecological IS it to ship the product (which I really like, but won’t buy for a oh, so many reasons) from Indonesia to Malibu? Answer: NOT ecological at all, in fact, it’s contributing to the continued DESTRUCTION OF THE ENVIRONMENT. Idiot girl seller.

    Regarding the store’s motto of “integrity”… she has absolutely NO integrity. None. I suspect she’s just one of these people with $$ in their eyes who takes financial advantage of the emotional aspects of social issues and writes pretty prose to convince gullible people that they’re plonking down outrageous bucks for things that in no way benefit the environment (or animals, or whatever)

    Shameless commerce.

    I might have the teeniest bit of respect if she had the pieces of lumber shipped over (sigh) and she herself cut, sanded, nailed whatever into finished pieces. That would also be etsy-legal.

    I wonder if the term “etsy-legal” will make it into dictionaries at some point?

    Laughing till I cry.

  40. sickofetsyshit and I can't look away April 29, 2012 at 2:04 pm #

    OH, wait…ROFLMAO @ MYCACouture “LUXURY”? They consider that crap luxurious?

    BwwuuuuuuuuuuuuuuHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!

  41. Herb June 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm #

    In the event your shop has been closed, here’s a list of Etsy’s Integrity Secret Agents:
    http://cafeteriart.blogspot.com/2012/06/hiding-in-etsy-integrity-department.html

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